Ok i see what your saying, in a strait line condition where 100% of traction can be giving to the brakes, i can see where the rear brakes wont make a difference. Its when your turning and say 20% of your maximum traction is devoted to G's and you go to stop, and you give your front brake that 100% power like u say vs using both brakes, 120% traction needed=locked front wheel=high side. I've seen it happen. Parking lot practice would have helped me in my accident but the main problem was timing, i was just not looking at the road at all for the second the guy was laying on his brake. call it luck, my bad luck lol.
Anyone else who has pics post em up... unlike what some people here think, accidents happen, and hopefully sharing your experiences and the consequences of the accident with others may help other accidents be avoided n i don't mind being an example if it helps someone else.
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It looks like full gear in the North America usually means a textile jacket, gloves, a helmet, sneakers and jeans.
well if you guys would like to wear full leathers every day in 100+ degree texas heat be my guest and ill throw the finger as i drive by you having a heat stroke on the side of the road in my sleeveless jacket and jeans
but hey atleast you'll be safe from road rash aye!
well if you guys would like to wear full leathers every day in 100+ degree texas heat be my guest and ill throw the finger as i drive by you having a heat stroke on the side of the road in my sleeveless jacket and jeans.
Damn squid. A properly hydrated rider won't get heatstroke even in full leathers. Idiot. I'd rather sweat than bleed.
well if you guys would like to wear full leathers every day in 100+ degree texas heat be my guest and ill throw the finger as i drive by you having a heat stroke on the side of the road in my sleeveless jacket and jeans
but hey atleast you'll be safe from road rash aye!
People do it all the time, including myself. If you are moving (riding) it's not bad. If you are just hanging around, I agree, it's really hot. I have to say no sleeves makes NO sense unless you figure you don't really need your arms. Buy a textile mesh jacket, at least you have some protection for your elbows & arms.
Damn squid. A properly hydrated rider won't get heatstroke even in full leathers. Idiot. I'd rather sweat than bleed.
ok lol squid cuz i dont wear a full jacket makes no sense what so ever when i wear everything else.. but ok and i dont wanna b a sweaty bag of shit once i get where im going seeing as i only have a bike
Ok i see what your saying, in a strait line condition where 100% of traction can be giving to the brakes, i can see where the rear brakes wont make a difference. Its when your turning and say 20% of your maximum traction is devoted to G's and you go to stop, and you give your front brake that 100% power like u say vs using both brakes, 120% traction needed=locked front wheel=high side. I've seen it happen. Parking lot practice would have helped me in my accident but the main problem was timing, i was just not looking at the road at all for the second the guy was laying on his brake. call it luck, my bad luck lol.
Anyone else who has pics post em up... unlike what some people here think, accidents happen, and hopefully sharing your experiences and the consequences of the accident with others may help other accidents be avoided n i don't mind being an example if it helps someone else.
A locked front wheel while turning would make a lowside.
The rear wheel does very little to nothing for slowing the bike down if you are using the front to its full potential. Period. the rear CAN help with chassis stability if you are talented enough to use it and not lock it up while using the front to its full potential.
The front can be used DAMN hard at some DAMN steep lean angles
Notice the angle of the belly pan to the ground, and the fender to the nose...
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Re: Post your crashed bike pictures!
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Originally Posted by Moto_Joe
A locked front wheel while turning would make a lowside.
The rear wheel does very little to nothing for slowing the bike down if you are using the front to its full potential. Period. the rear CAN help with chassis stability if you are talented enough to use it and not lock it up while using the front to its full potential.
The front can be used DAMN hard at some DAMN steep lean angles
Notice the angle of the belly pan to the ground, and the fender to the nose...
Damn your on the brakes in that picture??? Are your running race slicks their? how much to they help in maximum traction compared to street tires? I run Dunlop Q2's i cant imagine how grippy an all out race slick could be.
I did the parking lot thing with my back brakes, learning when they will lock up. I sure do wish my bike had ABS, for a daily bike, so not have to worry about a wheel locking up in traffic, or a slick cool mountain road would be glorious to say the least
X2 on textile jacket, i been riding with one since day one, 4 years ago. Funny thing is when i crashed i was not wearing my jacket, just a T-shirt and i got ZERO road rash tell me how that makes sense? not even on my T-shirt not a stain smudge or tear just a scrape on my helmet, and a broken collar bone, and my shoe ripped in half somehow
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Shoes are usually one of tghe first things to go, and boney areas are first to get ground on.
You were lucky.
Yes I am on the brakes. Hard. That is why the fender is as close as it is and the bike is as forward pitched as it is.. Yes that is a slick front, but really a DOT race front will do the same, and even a good hybrid tire like your q2 can brake that deep... carefully.
Could I do that on the street, with a tire that is only heated to street temps? Nope. But you can brake pretty damn far still. Key is smoothness and feel. Takes a lot of experience and know how.
ok lol squid cuz i dont wear a full jacket makes no sense what so ever when i wear everything else.. but ok and i dont wanna b a sweaty bag of shit once i get where im going seeing as i only have a bike
so you would rather be a bloody bag of shit then???
that is amazing, great pic too. braking i found to be the hardest thing to master. im smooth on throttle, and normally get on it a bit quicker than most i ride with, but its the braking thats always tricky im always worried the front tire will give out and bikes dont have crutches to lean on like a car does when that happens. I hope to get to the track next year, i have dreams about it lol
A locked front wheel while turning would make a lowside.
The rear wheel does very little to nothing for slowing the bike down if you are using the front to its full potential. Period. the rear CAN help with chassis stability if you are talented enough to use it and not lock it up while using the front to its full potential.
The front can be used DAMN hard at some DAMN steep lean angles
Notice the angle of the belly pan to the ground, and the fender to the nose...
Highside at Pocono while doing a trackday with Nesba. Rear kicked out and shoot my ass up, helmet smashed windscreen as I held on as long as I could. ImageUploadedByMotorcycle1355021719.939282.jpg
A properly hydrated rider won't get heatstroke even in full leathers. Idiot. I'd rather sweat than bleed. 
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