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Old 12-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #1
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Rear wheel won't turn

Another lovely day in gixxer land... ok, so my rr burned up earlier today. I had a friend with a pick up truck help me get the bike home so that I could work on it in the garage, instead of hauling all my tools to work and working on it in the parking lot. When we got to my house, I went to wheel her up the drive way... pulled in the clutch and it won't move. Well it turns out the rear wheel won't turn unless it's in neutral. I pulled the front sprocket cover off, everything looked normal and seemed to be actuating normally. So I put the cover back on, adjusted the cable to have as much movement as possible (screw on both sides of the cable all the way out). Still nothing. The wheel will only turn in neutral. I really don't understand whats going on

does anyone have any ideas what my problem could be??
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:01 PM   #2
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:22 PM   #3
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

How is the actual clutch?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:33 PM   #4
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I've never had any issue with the clutch, it was working fine when I rode to work I never ride it out too much or do clutch wheelies or anything. 35k on the clock
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:07 PM   #5
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wheres all teh resident GDC geniuses? lol
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:17 PM   #6
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

Its called "clutch drag", wet clutches have oil between the friction/metal plates that sticks them together when cold, when the oil is hot/thinner it allows the plates to move freely, try putting the tranny in 4 gear and then roll the bike, should work.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:23 PM   #7
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Oil bath clutches will drag hard when cold, stiff, not running. The clutch plates are almost pasted together when your oil is dead cold & stiff. Just put it in neutral for moving it.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:38 PM   #8
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

so it's just because it's cold outside? my clutch didn't explode? thank god!! it's been sitting for about 12 hours so the oil is probably around 45-55*F. It turns more freely with the lever pulled in but still not completely freely. I've never noticed this happening before though...

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:56 PM   #9
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so it's just because it's cold outside? my clutch didn't explode? thank god!! it's been sitting for about 12 hours so the oil is probably around 45-55*F. It turns more freely with the lever pulled in but still not completely freely. I've never noticed this happening before though...
Yep, even more so with the temps lower. If it was thirty out it would feel like you dumped tar in there. There is very little clearance between the clutch plates when it's disengaged so when you have cold thick oil it makes them stick together. That's normal, you just never noticed it. That's why if you ride somewhere it's pretty cold you have to be carefull the first time you drop it in gear because it may lurch pretty hard at first from the clutch sticking.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:58 PM   #10
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

you just made me so happy, i thought something was very wrong... can we go camping?
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:04 PM   #11
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you just made me so happy, i thought something was very wrong... can we go camping?
I'm free ALL weekend!

I was going to mention temps in my first answer, but when I saw you were in Mexifornia I assumed it would be plenty warm out.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:06 PM   #12
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eh... I'm on the central coast. it's between 45-60 depending on the time of day and elevation around here
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:30 AM   #13
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:02 AM   #14
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

When was the last time you actually adjusted the clutch per the manual ? Where you live the oil is not going to be that thick it doesn't get that cold there. 40 to 60 degrees is nothing . Hell I can pull in my clutch when it's 30 degrees out and turn the wheel and that's with the recommended 10w-40.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:08 AM   #15
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When was the last time you actually adjusted the clutch per the manual ? Where you live the oil is not going to be that thick it doesn't get that cold there. 40 to 60 degrees is nothing . Hell I can pull in my clutch when it's 30 degrees out and turn the wheel and that's with the recommended 10w-40.
My bikes will normally not do that when they are dead cold & have been sitting. The wheel will turn but it really has a drag on it. But it might be like you said that his clutch is also out of adjustment, that will really make it drag.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:39 AM   #16
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

With bike in gear, clutch pulled in it literally won't move at all or or it's just really difficult?
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:17 AM   #17
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Its really difficult. It moves a lot easier with the lever pulled in but there's still a lot of friction. It first started happening today though... if it was out of adjustment wouldn't that happen over time rather than all at once?
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:32 AM   #18
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Re: Rear wheel won't turn

You likely just noticed it. How often do you actually push it around, in gear, turned off? Probably not often.

It likely needs the pressure plate adjusted, then the cable, then the adjuster per the manual
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:47 AM   #19
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You likely just noticed it. How often do you actually push it around, in gear, turned off? Probably not often.

It likely needs the pressure plate adjusted, then the cable, then the adjuster per the manual
Pretty often actually, I'll adjust it though. Are you guys referring to adjusting the release mechanism?

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Old 12-08-2012, 11:09 AM   #20
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There are three adjustments. The lever, the cable, and the pressure plate inside the right side of the engine
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