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Old 12-05-2012, 10:56 PM   #21
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too many know it all's in here the front brakes do not do 100% brake work that doesn't make sense if the back tire is on the ground than there is traction there, no mater how small a % it may be sorry macbayne if you figure just skip the back brake all together because you cant modulate


Wanna see what happens when you use the rear brake?
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:47 PM   #23
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Wanna see what happens when you use the rear brake?
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...63#post5828863
nice one but you quoted me out of context. i used both for the 50' or so the back brakes locked up after that the back tire was in the air from the brake force applied to the front...

perhaps if i did not apply the back at all i would have hit him a few mph faster and broken more bones or ended up through his back window etc.

this was an accident i posted funny guy, IE: not my normal riding style lol. when im in the mountains carving it up i use both my brakes every time. ive ridden 4 years hard with no accidents or close calls. these pictures were an accident from a few stupid errors on my part, none of which came from locking up the back tire? try again.

My post was in reference to hard-braking entry and using the back brakes. he was talking about not using the brake in a situation like that at all because he was scared to low side the bike, id imagine. i found that using the rear brake in situations like that settles the bike, if you drag it just a bit.

fuck might as well delete this thread cuz i wasn't trying to make it about my accident defending myself from all the know it alls from the bumble fuck corners of the country, i wanted to share stories and pics thats all
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:25 PM   #24
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Soooo flying down the highway being stupid at 130 with a couple friends and i was coming up on a cut truck in the left lane car in the right and im coming up behind the car lean to the left to cut and turn my head and out of the corner of my eye i see my friend coming up for the same cut and he had his girl on the back so it was either hit him or lock the brakes and hope for the best so i hit the brakes bike shook me off and laid down sliding into the car while i was flipping down the highway. moral of the story always wear gear cuz if not for my helmet i wud be dead and if not for my gloves and vest i would have been horribly fucked up. And you will also need LOTS of luck.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:40 PM   #25
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I see you wore the proper gear

leather all day every day. that way you dont get rash, only break bones

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Old 12-06-2012, 07:46 PM   #26
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well spit it out than.




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fuck might as well delete this thread cuz i wasn't trying to make it about my accident defending myself from all the know it alls from the bumble fuck corners of the country, i wanted to share stories and pics thats all

a little confused are we?
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:50 PM   #27
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What's the point of a jacket without sleeves?

I've crashed, wish I took pics. You would see a destroyed jacket and helmet, along with a pretty F-ed up bike, but that's it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:06 PM   #28
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:39 PM   #29
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Cuz it clashes with the Starbucks cups..
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:50 PM   #30
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nice one but you quoted me out of context. i used both for the 50' or so the back brakes locked up after that the back tire was in the air from the brake force applied to the front...

perhaps if i did not apply the back at all i would have hit him a few mph faster and broken more bones or ended up through his back window etc.

this was an accident i posted funny guy, IE: not my normal riding style lol. when im in the mountains carving it up i use both my brakes every time. ive ridden 4 years hard with no accidents or close calls. these pictures were an accident from a few stupid errors on my part, none of which came from locking up the back tire? try again.

My post was in reference to hard-braking entry and using the back brakes. he was talking about not using the brake in a situation like that at all because he was scared to low side the bike, id imagine. i found that using the rear brake in situations like that settles the bike, if you drag it just a bit.

fuck might as well delete this thread cuz i wasn't trying to make it about my accident defending myself from all the know it alls from the bumble fuck corners of the country, i wanted to share stories and pics thats all
dude, the harder you get on the brakes, the more weight transfers to the front of the bike. the more weight that transfers, means that the rear tire will lift off of the ground.

in order to keep the rear tire on the ground, one has to apply less front brake force, meaning that you must decelerate LESS to keep the rear tire on the ground (at high speeds, at low speeds, in order not to overload the front, both brakes will slow you faster). in order to get my braking point as late as possible, i have to apply as much front brake as possible and keep the rear wheel BARELY on the ground, just enough to ensure that it tracks behind the front wheel instead of coming around, or the suspension being so unsettled when i release the brake to be detrimental to control and corner speed.

remember these points pertain to sportbikes, not cruisers. look at the weight bias on a 600ss.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:34 AM   #31
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What's the point of a jacket without sleeves?

I've crashed, wish I took pics. You would see a destroyed jacket and helmet, along with a pretty F-ed up bike, but that's it.
well if that jacket with out sleaves wasnt there then my back would have been way more fucked up cuz i backflipped several times and came out with slight injury in a 100+ mph crash
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:59 AM   #32
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well if that jacket with out sleaves wasnt there then my back would have been way more fucked up cuz i backflipped several times and came out with slight injury in a 100+ mph crash
You are lacking a bit of logic there buddeh...

If you had a jacket with sleeves, you would have a back no more fucked up than what you already have, but you would also have no rash on your arms.
Also good to see the jeans you had worked well...
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:07 AM   #33
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You are lacking a bit of logic there buddeh...

If you had a jacket with sleeves, you would have a back no more fucked up than what you already have, but you would also have no rash on your arms.
Also good to see the jeans you had worked well...
It looks like full gear in the North America usually means a textile jacket, gloves, a helmet, sneakers and jeans.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:11 AM   #34
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It looks like full gear in the North America usually means a textile jacket, gloves, a helmet, sneakers and jeans.
Yeah sadly ai


Are they afraid of being labelled "all the gear, no idea" by some dickfag because they won't drag pegs round every corner?
Because in my mind it's "all the gear, right idea..."
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:23 AM   #35
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I like the direction this thread has been heading...
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nice one but you quoted me out of context. i used both for the 50' or so the back brakes locked up after that the back tire was in the air from the brake force applied to the front...

perhaps if i did not apply the back at all i would have hit him a few mph faster and broken more bones or ended up through his back window etc.

this was an accident i posted funny guy, IE: not my normal riding style lol. when im in the mountains carving it up i use both my brakes every time. ive ridden 4 years hard with no accidents or close calls. these pictures were an accident from a few stupid errors on my part, none of which came from locking up the back tire? try again.

My post was in reference to hard-braking entry and using the back brakes. he was talking about not using the brake in a situation like that at all because he was scared to low side the bike, id imagine. i found that using the rear brake in situations like that settles the bike, if you drag it just a bit.

fuck might as well delete this thread cuz i wasn't trying to make it about my accident defending myself from all the know it alls from the bumble fuck corners of the country, i wanted to share stories and pics thats all


IE:



When you mean “for example,” use e.g. It is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase exempli gratia. When you mean “that is,” use “i.e.” It is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase id est. Either can be used to clarify a preceding statement, the first by example, the second by restating the idea more clearly or expanding upon it. Because these uses are so similar, the two abbreviations are easily confused. If you just stick with good old English “for example” and “that is” you won’t give anyone a chance to sneer at you. If you insist on using the abbreviation, perhaps “example given” will remind you to use “e.g.,” while “in effect” suggests “i.e.”

Since e.g. indicates a partial list, it is redundant to add “etc.” at the end of a list introduced by this


so your IE actually means WHAT the fuck???

Or since when does IE mean that the OP is a knobhead?
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you guys are cute. typical forum bs im going to skip the grammatical corrections and all that nonsense lol its fun to see u guys take time out to correct me and others newayz.. or anyway or how ever its spelled... IE:i dont give a shit.

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in order to get my braking point as late as possible, i have to apply as much front brake as possible and keep the rear wheel BARELY on the ground, just enough to ensure that it tracks behind the front wheel instead of coming around, or the suspension being so unsettled when i release the brake to be detrimental to control and corner speed.
I understand this, i have never taken my bike to the limit like this on the streets, and im yet to go to the track. I had it set up for late this year to go with a few other riders, I got a trailer, and was even going to buy full one piece leathers, but i crashed first. Anyway, at that point where its either slow down less and keep the back tire down or slow down at the absolute limit of physics, you are at the limit of the bike imo and thats too hard for the streets. ive never came into a corner *that* hard where i thought i was going to endo, i normally come in hot, lean back and lay hard on the front brakes, and giving a small amount of pressure to the rear and then touch both when i need to, for example if its a reducing apex corner where you come in thinking one line, and it gets tighter and tighter, i feel in that situation relying only on the front brake could possibly land you in a highside (painful) crash. I use trail braking as well where i drag just the rear if im going over a bumpy surface around a corner, i found it helps to settle the bike down a bit


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no. wait, huh? what?
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you guys are cute. typical forum bs im going to skip the grammatical corrections and all that nonsense lol its fun to see u guys take time out to correct me and others newayz.. or anyway or how ever its spelled... IE:i dont give a shit.



I understand this, i have never taken my bike to the limit like this on the streets, and im yet to go to the track. I had it set up for late this year to go with a few other riders, I got a trailer, and was even going to buy full one piece leathers, but i crashed first. Anyway, at that point where its either slow down less and keep the back tire down or slow down at the absolute limit of physics, you are at the limit of the bike imo and thats too hard for the streets. ive never came into a corner *that* hard where i thought i was going to endo, i normally come in hot, lean back and lay hard on the front brakes, and giving a small amount of pressure to the rear and then touch both when i need to, for example if its a reducing apex corner where you come in thinking one line, and it gets tighter and tighter, i feel in that situation relying only on the front brake could possibly land you in a highside (painful) crash. I use trail braking as well where i drag just the rear if im going over a bumpy surface around a corner, i found it helps to settle the bike down a bit




no. wait, huh? what?
you don't have to be going at the limits. every so often, i practice emergency braking in the parking lot on my street ride, to learn the muscle memory of maximum brake pressure on the front brake, to stop in the shortest amount of time (my street brakes are different than my track ones). there have been two occasions this season alone where i am absolutely sure that that practice saved a lot of hassle for me. if someone cuts you off at 20mph, slamming the front brake alone would probably end badly, but with sport bikes, going from 60 to 0 in the shortest time/distance will load the front wheel completely, and thus the front brake will contribute 100% of the stopping force.
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