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Old 12-04-2012, 07:15 PM   #21
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Re: Gopro hero 3 feedback needed

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If you dont have editing software capable of working with the 4K or even 1080p footage your video is going to get compressed and look the same as GoPro960 footage.

Ever wonder why GoPro's youtube videos look so much better than yours? $3000 worth of software.

This is just a little info on what it takes to edit 4K.

If you stick with Adobe you will need at least CS 5.5 For NLE if you stick with Apple you will need FCP-X (can't do 4K on FCP7) so you cannot re-conform from your FCP7 or earlier project. or if you jump Apples ship you can export a XML or EDL and conform in Avid MC 5.5 or Premiere 5.5.

For hardware on a MacPro you will need at least OS 10.6.v3, 4GB RAM (more if you have multiple software programs running concurrently), at least a westmere chip-set. NVIDIA Quadro 6000 graphics card (for Adobe mercury engine to work with multiple 4K layers), for your NLE you may need a separate graphics card since Apple does not take advantage of NVIDIA GPU power, OpenCL-capable graphics card or Intel HD Graphics 3000 or later for FCP graphics card spec.

for a RAW12 (12 bit uncompressed) at 3996X1260(1:85) @ 30FPS you are looking at about 388 MB/s roughly 1.4TB an hour.
i think that i just went cross-eyed.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:02 PM   #22
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If you dont have editing software capable of working with the 4K or even 1080p footage your video is going to get compressed and look the same as GoPro960 footage.

Ever wonder why GoPro's youtube videos look so much better than yours? $3000 worth of software.
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Thankfully decent HiDef Editing Software has come down in price.

You can get some good programs for $50-$75


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Old 12-05-2012, 10:17 AM   #23
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Re: Gopro hero 3 feedback needed

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i think that i just went cross-eyed.


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4K video needs higher end editing software to edit it well
4K video needs some pretty serious hardware in your computer to render it
The file sizes are huge

and last... it doesnt really matter anyway because your monitor and TV dont have 4K resolution (4096x2160) so you cant see how good the video is anyway. 4K projectors start at around $6000 up to $150,000 for a Christie.

Theres a lot of reasons to buy the camera, just dont talk yourself into thinking that the 4K cinematic mode is one of them.

From Gizmodo: ( http://gizmodo.com/5952501/the-gopro...rfully-useless )

The 4K video standard—which amounts to double the resolution of HD—is the future of moving images. Not the future as in next year, but the future as in you might have a 4K TV in your house to watch Season 8 of Game of Thrones. Sure, there are commercially available 4K projectors for your superfly custom home theater, but, to give some perspective, Sony is about to start selling its very first 4K capable TV—for $25,000.

The 4K video a GoPro Hero3 records will probably not be viewable on your, or anyone you know's TV set unless it is scaled down significantly. In fact, the average user's computer monitor probably doesn't reach the necessary 3840 x 2160 resolution to display 4K at full-size. Finally, let's not forget that 4K images carry large file sizes, forcing you to fill your pockets with extra memory cards. So what's the point?
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:07 PM   #24
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Re: Gopro hero 3 feedback needed

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Very True.

4k is definitely, still "FUTURE".

We still cannot imagine how much data that will take up on a memory stick. Or how long files will take to transfer to a computer.

BUt, it is cool to know your Camera can at least record it and some day, you'll be able to watch it.

Better then having to go out and buy ANOTHER Camera, once 4k becomes mainstream, like 1080p is now.

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Old 12-05-2012, 12:16 PM   #25
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We still cannot imagine how much data that will take up on a memory stick. Or how long files will take to transfer to a computer.


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At 30fps (any more than that and it goes up exponentially)

JPG90 format 36.6 MB per second of video
RGB24 format 1 gig per second of video
RAW12 format 516 MB per second of video
I think at the lowest format it's 21 Gigs for 10 minutes if I did my math right.

Works out to something like 1.4 TB per hour of video for storage.

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Old 12-05-2012, 12:51 PM   #26
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Re: Gopro hero 3 feedback needed

If you haven't used the liquid image ego yet you should check it out. Badass little units for under 200 bucks with wifi and the works.

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Cliff notes:

4K video needs higher end editing software to edit it well
4K video needs some pretty serious hardware in your computer to render it
The file sizes are huge

and last... it doesnt really matter anyway because your monitor and TV dont have 4K resolution (4096x2160) so you cant see how good the video is anyway. 4K projectors start at around $6000 up to $150,000 for a Christie.

Theres a lot of reasons to buy the camera, just dont talk yourself into thinking that the 4K cinematic mode is one of them.

From Gizmodo: ( http://gizmodo.com/5952501/the-gopro...rfully-useless )

The 4K video standard—which amounts to double the resolution of HD—is the future of moving images. Not the future as in next year, but the future as in you might have a 4K TV in your house to watch Season 8 of Game of Thrones. Sure, there are commercially available 4K projectors for your superfly custom home theater, but, to give some perspective, Sony is about to start selling its very first 4K capable TV—for $25,000.

The 4K video a GoPro Hero3 records will probably not be viewable on your, or anyone you know's TV set unless it is scaled down significantly. In fact, the average user's computer monitor probably doesn't reach the necessary 3840 x 2160 resolution to display 4K at full-size. Finally, let's not forget that 4K images carry large file sizes, forcing you to fill your pockets with extra memory cards. So what's the point?
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:01 PM   #27
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Better then having to go out and buy ANOTHER Camera, once 4k becomes mainstream, like 1080p is now.

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By the time 4K TVs are mainstream, there will have been another 5-10 versions of gopro and all other makers cameras.

It never stops.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #28
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If you haven't used the liquid image ego yet you should check it out. Badass little units for under 200 bucks with wifi and the works.


Sold all of our personal GoPros and the Ego is all we run now.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:16 PM   #29
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Re: Gopro hero 3 feedback needed

We did the same thing after seeing the liquid image in action. No point in paying smart phone prices for something that can just take a pic and vid. Just my .02

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Sold all of our personal GoPros and the Ego is all we run now.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:41 PM   #30
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By the time 4K TVs are mainstream, there will have been another 5-10 versions of gopro and all other makers cameras.

It never stops.
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It's GOT to stop at some point.

4k is pretty much pixle free video.

The next step will hopefully be some form of a Holigram.

No Screen needed.



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Old 12-05-2012, 02:36 PM   #31
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At 30fps (any more than that and it goes up exponentially)

JPG90 format 36.6 MB per second of video
RGB24 format 1 gig per second of video
RAW12 format 516 MB per second of video
I think at the lowest format it's 21 Gigs for 10 minutes if I did my math right.

Works out to something like 1.4 TB per hour of video for storage.
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Oh that's all ?

TB drives are just now becoming the Norm.

Not sure how many are going to want to max out their Drives, for 1 hr of 4k Video




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Old 12-15-2012, 08:31 AM   #32
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FYI guys, the IPhone app is now available from GoPro ...

http://gopro.com/support/gopro-app-support/


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Old 12-15-2012, 04:58 PM   #33
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If you haven't used the liquid image ego yet you should check it out. Badass little units for under 200 bucks with wifi and the works.
Thanks Mummy, just saved me from having to find a vendor to buy the new Gopro from.

Going give the EGO a try.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:17 PM   #34
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You'll like it. Most vendors I know (like trackstar) who tried it have moved on to it. They just released their suction cup mount to and it's only like 18 bucks. You'll like it
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:09 PM   #35
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I just ordered one form mummy, will post up some videos when I get it.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:48 PM   #36
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I'm still using my older style Dejur helmet cam, it's not HD though. I may be selling it if anyone is interested.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:51 PM   #37
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Now that is some Old School

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Old 12-16-2012, 02:49 AM   #38
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I use a GoPro HD Hero 3 for MotoVlogging. The audio-quality is much-improved and that's one of my favorite things about it. Much-reduced wind-noise with a flex-mic and GoPro mic-adaptor. Unfortunately the mic-adaptor is kind of awkward because it's about a 6" cable with inflexible sections for the Mini-USB and 3.5mm ends. Not great with a flex-mic because there's no fixed-support like there used to be with the GoPro HD Hero 2.

But, I have a setup that works now (after some clever-use of twist ties) and it's pretty good. Love the fact that I can record much-higher rez too.
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So it works with the Case.? or no ?

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