Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
There is more to a tire than the carbon content.
Underlying plies make a HUGE difference in the way a tire reacts. Dunlop uses a much stiffer carcass than Pirelli or Michelin. The amount, material and method of laying belts determines what a tire does.
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
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Originally Posted by QRYPTYQ
I was brand loyal for several years Dunlop was my choice...but I came to the conclusion that rubber comes from trees and all carbon properties are the same so what you need to look for now a days is how much http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_black is in the tire center, mid, edge. This will equate to mileage, speed, & lean...PEACE!
You are so fucking tire stupid it's painful.
1. High carbon black = high hysteresis compound. Not good.
2. Only natural rubber is from Malaysian/Indonesian rubber trees - performance tires (car or motorcycle) are mostly SBR and BR. The glass transition temperature of the polymers used will override silica content, carbon black amount and type, and cure system if chosen poorly.
3. The Silica-silane system is more important than the CB, because CB does not allow for the physical properties desired in high performance pavement tires.
4. "All carbon properties are the same" WTF? Try some ASTM grade N120 against some N650 or N774 carbon black. Nothing alike.
5. Carbon black properties are bnot alike between the various rubber grades, but everyone uses the same set of CB suppliers - Cabot, Sid Rich, etc. No one makes their own carbon black for their own rubber.
6. Brand loyal, eh?
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Originally Posted by QRYPTYQ
Brand loyalty = brain washed!
EDIT: This is only pointing out your stupidity relating to rubber compound, not even counting construction, profile, etc.
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Originally Posted by SPL170db
Just remember....."respect for the bike" is not what keeps you from crashing. You can have all the respect in the world for the bike, but when you do something accidentally and the bike reacts in a way that your skillset doesn't know how to respond to.......that's what ends you up on your head.
My avatar was the bike in the dining room for winter work. It never occurred to me it looks like I have a streetfighter...
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
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Originally Posted by QRYPTYQ
I was brand loyal for several years Dunlop was my choice...but I came to the conclusion that rubber comes from trees and all carbon properties are the same so what you need to look for now a days is how much http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_black is in the tire center, mid, edge. This will equate to mileage, speed, & lean...PEACE!
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
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Originally Posted by davidhar
You are so fucking tire stupid it's painful.
1. High carbon black = high hysteresis compound. Not good.
2. Only natural rubber is from Malaysian/Indonesian rubber trees - performance tires (car or motorcycle) are mostly SBR and BR. The glass transition temperature of the polymers used will override silica content, carbon black amount and type, and cure system if chosen poorly.
3. The Silica-silane system is more important than the CB, because CB does not allow for the physical properties desired in high performance pavement tires.
4. "All carbon properties are the same" WTF? Try some ASTM grade N120 against some N650 or N774 carbon black. Nothing alike.
5. Carbon black properties are bnot alike between the various rubber grades, but everyone uses the same set of CB suppliers - Cabot, Sid Rich, etc. No one makes their own carbon black for their own rubber.
6. Brand loyal, eh?
EDIT: This is only pointing out your stupidity relating to rubber compound, not even counting construction, profile, etc.
LOL I knew this would go this way I was being Sarcastic because its a Questionable thread to begin with and I'm bored. Are you questioning why I was brand loyal? did you not get that to begin with Wow you can read and follow me around like a puppy Oh and your superior to me too. I didn't mention profile or construction! I posted the fucking link to carbon black dumb ass! Here's another one for you since you like following me around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_manufacturing. here's another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire read it all up spit it all out you Tool! BTW you couldn't explain profile or construction eh!
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
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Originally Posted by QRYPTYQ
I didn't mention profile or construction! I posted the fucking link to carbon black dumb ass! I've been riding supersports for 20 yrs and other motorcycles since I was 12 Thats over 27 years of experience since before you where born Asshat! BTW you couldn't explain profile or construction eh!
Troll - or just retarded?
You said sportbike tires use natural rubber - they do not.
You said all carbon black is the same - it is not.
You said all that matters is "carbon content" because it "will equate to mileage, speed, & lean". None of which is true or accurate.
Drop all the worthless wikipedia links you want, you're still clueless and retarded. If you'd like I could discuss tire construction and/or profile, but that wasn't my engineering specialty with Goodyear. Rubber compounding was - but I still had some cross training for curing, constructions, sipe designs, etc.
How long you've been a squid going from parking lot to parking lot trying to show off only says how pathetic you are.
And you edited the original one to claim sarcasm. I genuinely hope you are just a clueless troll, and not really this stupid.
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Originally Posted by SPL170db
Just remember....."respect for the bike" is not what keeps you from crashing. You can have all the respect in the world for the bike, but when you do something accidentally and the bike reacts in a way that your skillset doesn't know how to respond to.......that's what ends you up on your head.
My avatar was the bike in the dining room for winter work. It never occurred to me it looks like I have a streetfighter...
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
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Originally Posted by davidhar
Unless you are doing it knowingly to affect geometry, etc, there is no point. At all. Unless you already understand what it will help and what it will hurt, don't do it.
apparently most of your post do not give good advice other than you trying to display your brains for all to see for some reason most of your post are similar...News flash Goodyear dosn't make high performance motorcycle tires...SQUID!
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
I think your mom dropped you on your head. Sarcasm! What did you not get. !
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Originally Posted by davidhar
Troll - or just retarded?
You said sportbike tires use natural rubber - they do not.
You said all carbon black is the same - it is not.
You said all that matters is "carbon content" because it "will equate to mileage, speed, & lean". None of which is true or accurate.
Drop all the worthless wikipedia links you want, you're still clueless and retarded. If you'd like I could discuss tire construction and/or profile, but that wasn't my engineering specialty with LOL Goodyear. Rubber compounding was - but I still had some cross training for curing, constructions, sipe designs, etc.
How long (Me just take a look @ your avatar) been a squid going from parking lot to parking lot trying to show off only says how pathetic you are.
And you edited the original one to claim sarcasm. I genuinely hope you are just a clueless troll, and not really this stupid.
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
I am retarded! I like to BS but its so fun for me too lol & I'm really piss drunk thats why I keep editing LMFAO the weather sucks here and there's nothing better to do!
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Originally Posted by Minibull
Heed your own advice...
Put down the keyboard and take a breather. You already look retarded, why make it worse?
Orrrr, keep being retarded because it's funny to read
Re: Seriously, you dont need expensive tires on the street
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Originally Posted by QRYPTYQ
Is this purposful trolling worth a ban?
I would hope so this fucking site sucks big time I've been trying to find a way to cancel my account and apparently there's no other fucking way Jack ass
LOL sarcasm!
here's another 
I genuinely hope you are just a clueless troll, and not really this stupid.
I think your mom dropped you on your head. Sarcasm! What did you not get. !
you need to stop!
I've been trying to find a way to cancel my account and apparently there's no other fucking way Jack ass
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