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Old 11-19-2012, 01:27 AM   #1
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how to take apart water pump

Few days ago at the dyno getting a custom tune and half way through oil starts spitting out under the water pump pretty good.. I took it off and decided it was most likely the internals of the water pump. #4/5. questions is, could someone describe the tools needed and the process to disassemble this internal part to replace the internals? I have no idea.




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Old 11-19-2012, 09:43 AM   #2
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Re: how to take apart water pump

i never heard of anyone try to rebuild a water pump.

thats usually a part you just replace when it craps out on you.

but if you or someone on here has or knows somebody that has "rebuilt" a water pump post up...
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
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Same here. You can probably even find a cheap used one on eBay if you want to. I replaced mine on my 2002 bike after cracking the driving shaft due to freezing water in the system.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:04 AM   #4
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What part do you think failed exactly to cause it to leak?
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:43 AM   #5
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What part do you think failed exactly to cause it to leak?
There are two seals Internally. One for the water and the other for the oil. The weep hole is in between both of them so the leak will tell you which seal is bad.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:48 AM   #6
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Re: how to take apart water pump

I couldnt turn the engine on, if I did the oil would be drained in 5 seconds from the bike. it was shooting out, a solid constant stream. then after off continued to drip. When taking of the coolant hoses it looked clean. The bike is an 06 and has 4000 miles. it was in storage for at least 4+ years id imagine. when I bought it 6 months ago it only had 2000 miles.

They sell the parts, but I have no idea how to get inside that piece. Looks like i might be buying a new pump.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:06 PM   #7
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There are two seals Internally. One for the water and the other for the oil. The weep hole is in between both of them so the leak will tell you which seal is bad.
I know that, just wondered why the OP thought it was there and not a cracked housing, blown seal in the shell, etc. Basically, was it even diagnosed. All too often people take shit apart that doesn't need to be.


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I couldnt turn the engine on, if I did the oil would be drained in 5 seconds from the bike. it was shooting out, a solid constant stream. then after off continued to drip. When taking of the coolant hoses it looked clean. The bike is an 06 and has 4000 miles. it was in storage for at least 4+ years id imagine. when I bought it 6 months ago it only had 2000 miles.

They sell the parts, but I have no idea how to get inside that piece. Looks like i might be buying a new pump.
Service manual has the procedures. It's not too difficult.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:36 PM   #8
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I know that, just wondered why the OP thought it was there and not a cracked housing, blown seal in the shell, etc. Basically, was it even diagnosed. All too often people take shit apart that doesn't need to be.




Service manual has the procedures. It's not too difficult.

right, taking I apart wasnt bad, but #5 is still stuck inside the whole piece. Somehow it needs to come out.

Id have to say something was blown out due to the large volume of oil spewing from the hole.

In the end I believe it was too much oil in the case causing too much pressure
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too much oil should puke up the breather tube and into the airbox, not blow out seals.

As for how to do it.... factory service manual, section 7, page 11.
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maybe the op should also check the air box at that point. but even thru the weep hole it

couldn't just spit out oil that fast. im lost.... OP if you could post up pics of the bike

and how the oil was coming out and what not might make it easier for the rest of us

trying to help to get a better understanding of how the oil was pissing out like you

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Old 11-19-2012, 11:40 PM   #11
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maybe the op should also check the air box at that point. but even thru the weep hole it

couldn't just spit out oil that fast. im lost.... OP if you could post up pics of the bike

and how the oil was coming out and what not might make it easier for the rest of us

trying to help to get a better understanding of how the oil was pissing out like you

said...

right, To clarify, the bike was overfilled with oil and I knew that and thought not much of it. thinking excess oil would simply be vented out. I didnt think it was a sealed system, but the guy running the dyno seemed to think so. It has been sitting for a very long time and bouncing up to rev limiter multiple times is what I believe caused the pump to go. what I have never done.

Started with a few drips off the bottom screw of the pump, then a solid stream from what I saw directly above that bottom screw, but behind the pump. Only makes sense it was the weep hole.

Now if only I could remove #5 and replace #4/5/8/9. I would be set.

trying to go the cheapest route here and avoid buying one time bearing puller tools..



I appreciate all of the help so far.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:58 AM   #12
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Re: how to take apart water pump

found a new water pump assy kit over at ronayers.com for a reasonable price 185

http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/TypeID...up/WATER_PUMP_

cheapest ive found yet.... looks to come with everything needed too....

would def be the way i would go about it IMO only because something goes wrong or

breaks as you're trying to go about rebuilding it and youll end up spending more money

and time than you need to...
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:37 PM   #13
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Re: how to take apart water pump

would it happen to be true that 08/09 water pumps would fit the 06/07?

and would this all come assembled if I purchased from a site?
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #14
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would it happen to be true that 08/09 water pumps would fit the 06/07?

and would this all come assembled if I purchased from a site?
06 and 07 are one series p/n 17400-01H00

08 and 09 are a newer series p/n 17400-01H10

Different p/n but don't know the difference.

Yes, they come all assembled.
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would it happen to be true that 08/09 water pumps would fit the 06/07?

and would this all come assembled if I purchased from a site?

same part, just different color (black). It is what I have on my 07 right now.
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same part, just different color (black). It is what I have on my 07 right now.
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