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Old 11-06-2012, 07:23 PM   #4121
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

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Never buy the first model year of any motor vehicle brand new.
My 2006 is an early 2006 even and has been pretty much flawless

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I have been on take off D211's since CMP. I crashed there, NJMP and Summit since. I don't think I have ever finished a lap on AMA take off's.


Its not the tires. But they are not helping you any. People get rid of takeoffs for a reason
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:25 PM   #4122
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

Might be time to switch back to street tires
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:32 PM   #4123
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

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My 2006 is an early 2006 even and has been pretty much flawless
Lucky I guess...

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Its not the tires. But they are not helping you any. People get rid of takeoffs for a reason
I've been riding/racing exclusively on takeoffs for 2 years...right up until the last 2 races...
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:52 PM   #4124
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

Looks like Mittens is in the lead so far


http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:04 PM   #4125
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Lucky I guess...



I've been riding/racing exclusively on takeoffs for 2 years...right up until the last 2 races...
Lucky? There were no real trends of problems with the bike either

And yes. Some people have the ability. I have taken takeoffs that people were throwing away and went way faster than they did on them. But yours or my ability to go fast on garbage tires doesnt make them any less garbage

that line is an odd one.

Same with street tires. I hear guys talk about how they "need" race tires when they are making two minute laps around Talladega (one minute fast lap track lol) when clearly any street tire would work fine for them

There comes a gray area. Tom is in it. The gray area where talent and tire performance start to blur. He is at a pace where talent and tires start to matter. More talent, can get away with lesser tires. Less talent, need better tires to make up for mistakes.

There is no right answer there, but if a guy keeps falling down and thinking it has something to do with tires, get better tires and see if you still keep falling down. If you do.... then get more talent
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

Fair enough, Joe. That line where you think you need race tires and you actually DO need race tires, is definitely a grey area.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:19 PM   #4127
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

We all know guys who CLAIM they crashed due to lack of tire performance and go ... nope. It was JUST you .

We also know guys who take shit with cords showing and do shit that should not be able to be done, or street tires and make them go STUPID fast. and we go

Difference? Talent or lack of.

Isnt that what makes this sport so damn great? . It all matters to some level.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:30 PM   #4129
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I'm considering race dot's next season but I don't think I really need them.The thing is I keep crashing on cold tires...
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:35 PM   #4130
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Ok that didn't make sense.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:36 PM   #4131
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I'm considering race dot's next season but I don't think I really need them.The thing is I keep crashing on cold tires...
You do use warmers right?


Are you sure it is actually cold tires, and not just not being smooth? Honest question since I dont know

Goes back to that "some people could have easily gone that fast in the same conditions thing"... that gray area.
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Are you in Hawaii again Bryan?
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:10 PM   #4135
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I'm considering race dot's next season but I don't think I really need them.The thing is I keep crashing on cold tires...
I crashed on cold tires twice. Both times were on cold race tires. I never crashed on street tires. Did you always crash on the first lap?
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #4136
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You do use warmers right?


Are you sure it is actually cold tires, and not just not being smooth? Honest question since I dont know

Goes back to that "some people could have easily gone that fast in the same conditions thing"... that gray area.
I've been on Q2's this whole season so no warmers..The couple of times I crashed this year and last,I didn't give the tires enough time to warm up and so I lowsided both times on the first lap.I think I have the pace for race dot's so I may switch to them next season,at some point.I've been told that the stock suspension on the r6 I will be riding next year is not to good for race tires so I gotta figure that out too.
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Re: Northeast Trackwhores: 7 month thread v3

Even with Q2s if the temps are low I would use warmers on medium just to get some heat in the carcass. You just dont want warmers on street tires in the heat as they will over heat by the end of the sesion if you are not careful... although that can be combated some with pressures as well.
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I crashed on cold tires twice. Both times were on cold race tires. I never crashed on street tires. Did you always crash on the first lap?
First lap,yes...
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A lot of people forget your suspension ALSO needs to warm up too. You can go fast on cold tires and cold suspension, but you have to keep the bike REALLY neutral and be smooth.
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Even with Q2s if the temps are low I would use warmers on medium just to get some heat in the carcass. You just dont want warmers on street tires in the heat as they will over heat by the end of the sesion if you are not careful... although that can be combated some with pressures as well.
Yeah last time I crashed was the first day the temps in the morning were low in a while and I just got careless.I thought about using warmers the way you say and I will have a set next season for sure
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