HIIT. works wonders for EVERYTHING. give that proven method of intensive exercise a try, instead of some gimmicky "system" you're probably gonna have to pay for.
best thing about it? free. 2nd best thing about it? doesn't matter what level of fitness you're at because the effort you bring will net results. 3rd best? all you need is a stopwatch, unless you're a great time keeper : 4th best... etc. etc.
the best stuff you can take with you is knowledge afterall... knowledge of how to push your body, how to feed your body (nutrition) and you won't need all that bullshit (supplements). granted, there are lots of supplements that do have quite the effect, but in the end, they are only that: supplements, meant to supplement your otherwise lack of nutrition in your diet.
read up & post up (ur results). i know there's at least a handful of guys here who can chime in on the subject
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I never heard of that one. The last really good one I used was about 10 years back. The program was called "Severe Food Poisoning". Apparently the program is available free sometimes at Friendly's Restaurants. You will lose about 25 lbs in 2 weeks even if you are already thin. You really have to commit to it though!
I never heard of that one. The last really good one I used was about 10 years back. The program was called "Severe Food Poisoning". Apparently the program is available free sometimes at Friendly's Restaurants. You will lose about 25 lbs in 2 weeks even if you are already thin. You really have to commit to it though!
my friend had raw chicken sashimi in tokyo and got salmonella. lost like 15lbs bc he was throwing up for over a wk
Everyone gets "positive results" from the "system" because they are doing SOMETHING vs NOTHING.
Plus the mind will try really really hard to convince itself that you didn't fall for an obvious scam. You will probably lose a few pounds. Of water. But like I said, you can do that with black coffee.
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I haven't heard of it, but if you are not a dealer or "advertiser", the 24 day challenge will run you $185+ and that's just for 24 days. It seems you can get all of that stuff for a lot cheaper.
1. Herbal Cleanse - $31.50 a box - It seems to be a fiber drink and a pill to make you shit
your brains out. This is available for a lot cheaper than $31.50
2. OmegaPlex® -$21.95 a bottle - This is just a Omega 3 fatty acid pill. These are
common and can be bought for about $7 for a 60 day supply
3. AdvoCare Spark® Energy Drink - $22.95 per box (14 pouches) for for the 3 week
Program you need 3 boxes. Seems just to be a sugar free vitamin filled energy drink
A multi-vitamin and any sugar free energy drink will do the same thing
4. Meal Replacement Shake - $39.95 a box (14 pouches) Once again you need 3 boxes
for 3 weeks. And it just looks like a regular protein shake or meal replacement shake
but for a ton of money
5. MNS® Max 3 - $45.95 for a 14 day supply - Not really sure what it does but for
that much it better blow me too.
I am not a fitness or nutrition expert by any stretch of the imagination, but if you just read the ingredients on some of these programs, it's just clever marketing. To me, you can do all of this yourself at a fraction of the price.
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Haha once again I know what the 24 Day Challenge is and understand what each product does, I don't need explanation on what they do ... The products are backed by some top doctors and they have endorsers which are not even Bein paid all they get is free product.
All I was asking is if anyone else has used the product and have an opinion on it, if you haven't used it your opinion is kind of you just knocking it down
Now, if you are a nutrition expert tht a different story and if you have use te product and didn't like the results yeah let me hear it
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Haha once again I know what the 24 Day Challenge is and understand what each product does, I don't need explanation on what they do ... The products are backed by some top doctors and they have endorsers which are not even Bein paid all they get is free product.
All I was asking is if anyone else has used the product and have an opinion on it, if you haven't used it your opinion is kind of you just knocking it down
Now, if you are a nutrition expert tht a different story and if you have use te product and didn't like the results yeah let me hear it
Maybe not everyone reading knows what the 24 day challenge is and understands it. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to read the what's in these products and know it's nothing special. I am not knocking it down, I'm sure it works well. Just as well if you went out and bought this stuff on your own. Oh and an endorser receiving a free product is still getting something for a their positive endorsement. It's still a form of payment. So that isn't saying anything. I would also bet these "top doctors" are receiving some form of payment as well. It's called marketing and you're falling for it. Hey if you want to spend that much money on stuff you can buy a lot cheaper, knock yourself out.
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Haha once again I know what the 24 Day Challenge is and understand what each product does, I don't need explanation on what they do ... The products are backed by some top doctors and they have endorsers which are not even Bein paid all they get is free product.
Clean up diet, do more cardio, weight training stays pretty much the same.
Been doing the exact same routine for the last 10+ years and every spring around the same time in late April to mid-May my abs start showing up again. It's not rocket science, it's not even algebra........just simple addition/subtraction. Fad diets and workouts are to make people lose money, not weight.
BUT, that is not what makes me lose weight. I use the shake because the nature of my job and travel and such makes it nearly impossible to each balanced. Two shakes a day and then small non perishable snacks, and a sensible meal at night is something I can easily control my caloric intake.
There is ONE thing you need to lose weight. YOu need to eat less calories than you burn. Period. Game over.
Now to do so, you need to UP your metabolism by eating smaller meals, more frequently, and get off your ass and start moving. You then burn more calories.
Then control what you eat. As little fat as you can, as much protein as you can, and let carbs fall. Stay away from white carbs if you can. Stay away from processed sugars. Stay away from crap foods. and try not to drink anything with calories in it. What most of those do is fill you with empty calories and take away from the good shit you need to be eating so you dont feel like you are starving.
Fuck some magic plan. Use a shake for what it is truly worth. A portable, easily prepared meal, that you can control what is in it. NOthing more.
I'm not an "expert" but I used to be into bodybuilding and powerlifting and did a whole lot of research in supplements. You can take it or leave it.
Here's the deal:
1: NOTHING that you can buy legally without a prescription will give you an actual, lasting weight loss without dieting and exercise. You may lose a few pounds fast at the beginning but that's water being forced out of your body by diuretic ingredients. You can do the same with plain old black coffee and it has nothing to do with losing fat.
2: There are supplements/pharmaceuticals that can actually make you burn fat - they are chemically close to amphetamines or hormones and you need a prescription to buy them. Ephedrine/caffeine combos were the most effective over-the-counter supplements but then the meth heads had to go ruin it for everyone else by producing meth from the ephedrine so that now you can barely buy allergy pills with getting registered. Meth reportedly is good for weight loss too but kinda has some side effects.
3: Those doctors endorsing that program (or any other non-prescription supplement) are NOT INDEPENDENT! They get paid well - if they are even doctors and not just stock photo models with a made up name attached.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that's how it works. You can go ahead and try it anyway but the only actual weight loss you'll experience is to your wallet. What MotoJoe says above is what DOES work. Turns out you have to get off your ass and worth for it.
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i dont believe in a lot of this stuff they put out there. old school exercise and basic dieting has never failed anyone up to this point. people out there just want a quick way to lose weight.
my dad is on the HCG diet. he takes the shots and it has helped him and my step-mom lose a ton of weight. my dad was heavily over weight and the family doctor cleared him to enter the program. my dad has bad knees from serving in the marines so the doc put him on a 1500 calorie diet with the HCG shots and he keeps dropping weight. i guess HCG is a good alternative to liposuction. you have to qualify to enter the HCG program and they wont take anyone unless you do qualify under their standards.
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i dont believe in a lot of this stuff they put out there. old school exercise and basic dieting has never failed anyone up to this point. people out there just want a quick way to lose weight.
my dad is on the HCG diet. he takes the shots and it has helped him and my step-mom lose a ton of weight. my dad was heavily over weight and the family doctor cleared him to enter the program. my dad has bad knees from serving in the marines so the doc put him on a 1500 calorie diet with the HCG shots and he keeps dropping weight. i guess HCG is a good alternative to liposuction. you have to qualify to enter the HCG program and they wont take anyone unless you do qualify under their standards.
My buddy did hcg and it worked well but he put most back on and had to do it again. Like anything else you have to continue eating well and working out or it will come right back.
i dont believe in a lot of this stuff they put out there. old school exercise and basic dieting has never failed anyone up to this point. people out there just want a quick way to lose weight.
my dad is on the HCG diet. he takes the shots and it has helped him and my step-mom lose a ton of weight. my dad was heavily over weight and the family doctor cleared him to enter the program. my dad has bad knees from serving in the marines so the doc put him on a 1500 calorie diet with the HCG shots and he keeps dropping weight. i guess HCG is a good alternative to liposuction. you have to qualify to enter the HCG program and they wont take anyone unless you do qualify under their standards.
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My buddy did hcg and it worked well but he put most back on and had to do it again. Like anything else you have to continue eating well and working out or it will come right back.
Aaand - HCG is a hormone that's not available over the counter.