my first bike i started off is a 2001 TL1000R. i rode the R6 in between too as well and i tell ya i love the power from a V-twins. but i also still like my in-lines. i mean just reading through the new or first rider section and some off these guys i read about being afraid of the "600's" and all and i am like WTF???? i mean don't get me wrong 600's are fast and also it depends on the rider. I mean some of those topics i read about people get'n their first bike and being afraid sound like a buch of bitches....i swear.....I love my TLR and plan on gett'n a gixxer 750 to start og racing in, but before i even race i will take all my track days and start from the bottom and work my way up and learn and learn as much as i can.......


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gsxr69 said:



my first bike i started off is a 2001 TL1000R. i rode the R6 in between too as well and i tell ya i love the power from a V-twins. but i also still like my in-lines. i mean just reading through the new or first rider section and some off these guys i read about being afraid of the "600's" and all and i am like WTF???? i mean don't get me wrong 600's are fast and also it depends on the rider. I mean some of those topics i read about people get'n their first bike and being afraid sound like a buch of bitches....i swear.....I love my TLR and plan on gett'n a gixxer 750 to start og racing in, but before i even race i will take all my track days and start from the bottom and work my way up and learn and learn as much as i can.......


SUZUKI IS THE SHIT!!!!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif





Welp, different strokes, for different folks....Once you get on the track, THEN you'll see what Riding really is........ http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Everyone is different . And yes if you are scared of riding a bike you should NOT be riding stay your ass in a car. Also my personal opinion ANY bike can't get your ass in trouble the only difference is that supersports get you in trouble alot quicker. Best example I crashed on a TS100(suzuki) broke 5 ribs and dislocated both my shoulders rather painful but you learn. Imagine if this was on a supersport for all I know I could of killed my ass .

Hammer 4 said:

Welp, different strokes, for different folks....Once you get on the track, THEN you'll see what Riding really is........ http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif





Yah, you don't realize how much you really suck until you hit the track. Imagine going through a corner, knee down, good line, good drive, and a guy on a smaller bike comes flying around you on the outside...few seconds later, he's out of sight.


Just FYI, though, neither the TLR or the 750 are great learner track bikes; the power is a bit too high to learn with. I nearly highsided my 750 several times because I got too greedy on the throttle (well, I did highside a couple times, I just didn't crash).

I'm not going to bother commenting on what good/bad bikes are for first bikes because it's been covered already and you're new, so I'll let this one lame comment go.

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Could you post where in the country you live so I will know where not to ride?

hey dingo...go suck my ass ok......ask'n me which country i am at so you won't ride in...bitch i'll fuck'n crush you on the TLR......smart ass bitch....... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif

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gsxr69 said:

hey dingo...go suck my ass ok......ask'n me which country i am at so you won't ride in...bitch i'll fuck'n crush you on the TLR......smart ass bitch....... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif

I have NEVER seen a good rider that did not start off small.

Never, ever, not once, there are no exeptions that I know. The very closest is a friend that bought an R6, binned it three times, then got an EX250, he is approaching "good" now, and he is currently riding a YZF600.

I have seen some seriously dangerous riders that think that they are the shit, and I've met some really, really slow riders that have very fast bikes.

One of the craziest riders I have ever known used to take great delight in riding off the edges of his tires on a TZR125, around the inside, outside, or once straight into the back of (oops) litre bikes on track days - the R1 rider lost it, and my fried T-boned him at a closing speed of maybe 50mph....

As for being scared of your bike - I think that you need to hold a healthy level of respect for it. My bike can scare me at times, not so much the bike but the sheer speed I am travelling at, or the adrenaline rush as I accelerate hard, corner hard, or even stop real fast.

Learning to ride on a fast bike is hard, learning to ride fast on a fast bike is an amazingly difficult skill.

Most people can survive out ther, given caution, luck, and decent observation skills, but very, very few people can ride to even 75% of a GSXR600's potential.

So, why do I ride a 750 ?

Partly because I can be a little lazier riding it over a 600, but partly because it exites, ans scares the crap out of me at least once a week, boy the last 57,000 miles have been fun.

Oh, and even after all that time, and the preceding 18 years of street riding on everyting from a 50cc FS1e to a Turbo kwak, FZR1K, and a couple of 'blades, I still cannot ride it much over 75% for all but short time periods....

fRaGgLe said:

I have seen some seriously dangerous riders that think that they are the shit, and I've met some really, really slow riders that have very fast bikes.

One of the craziest riders I have ever known used to take great delight in riding off the edges of his tires on a TZR125, around the inside, outside, or once straight into the back of (oops) litre bikes on track days - the R1 rider lost it, and my fried T-boned him at a closing speed of maybe 50mph....

Learning to ride on a fast bike is hard, learning to ride fast on a fast bike is an amazingly difficult skill.

Most people can survive out ther, given caution, luck, and decent observation skills, but very, very few people can ride to even 75% of a GSXR600's potential.





Good post once again fRaGgLe (voice of reason) http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif cracks me up http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif that think that since they have been ridding for a year or two and have 10K miles on the road and have managed to "start out on a 600 or 750 sportbike" think they are "fast" http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/burnout.gif and think they can "handle" the hottest fastest bikes out there, but suggest they try a "small" bike to improve their skills and they wouldn't be caught dead on "that" girl, small, non cool, ect. bike http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif. God forbid they "improve" http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif and the "I'm gonna get a 750 for the track" comment... LOL http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif only a http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif would think the 750 would be a "GOOD" first track bike, hell wouldn't want to start out on the track with a SV650 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif, EX500 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif, RD350 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif, TZ250 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif, or other uncooll bike like that!!!! Oh yeah must of forgot your probably one of those "BIG GUYS" and those are not powerfull enough to get you around the track right? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

And did anyone mention that.........It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than to ride a fast bike slow..?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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And did anyone mention that.........It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than to ride a fast bike slow..?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif [/quote

mmmmmmmmmm..... very very very true especially when your flying around an R1 and you see the expresion on the face of the guy in the rear view mirror, or at the end of the session and you over hear that guy making excusess to his buddy's that saw it. LOL http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif

good posts fragle and ta2drvn.....very true http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
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ok ok.....i was thinking and thinking......yes people told me too start off on a 600.........and i was looking....and there is a used gixxer 600 i could pick up as well.........i could ride the gixxer 600 to perfect my skills....and yes you guys are right..........but hey i do ride the big bike fast......

i remeber when i was at the dealership......i was looking at the gixxer 600.....the sales person was like your gonna want more than a 600 later on cuz your gonna want more power......i mean damn this was gonna be my first bike......i was like shit dude..........but if anything i would get a used gixxer 600 anyways cuz i would hate to drop a brand new bike.........

anyways i am still gonna keep the TLR, but i am getting a 600....still think'n bout that 750.......also.......but the gixxer600 will keep me in check.....you gotta start from the bottom right....then when i get better on the 600 my skills will improve and improve on the TLR and the gixxer 600 as well....basically my riding skills will improve in time......

I want to do this right.......i got mad cuz it all seemed like all of you were being dicks.....i am not gonna let nobody run me over.......i am jusy say'n.........

i will go to evrey track day becuase i want to improve my riding and still keep on learning...

MSF was not just the only class i wanna...i wanna do more...i will always keep on learning evreyday....Kieth Code's school seem like a pretty cool one.....

but hey if you guys have any advice feel free...it's all good..


--gsxr69-- http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

hey, i am a new rider, brand new, just got my license from the motor cycle safety course. before the course i had had no prior riding experience. and i really wanted a gixxer 600. they are super fast, scary nibble, and they are flat out gorgeous bikes. i was torn, didnt know what to do. i did want something ugly and slow. but i felt that i could get myself into a lot of trouble with a new gixxer 600, especially from everyhting i have read on this site http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif. not so much because of the power, i can control my wrist, but because of the handling characteristics of a racebike, which is what a gsx-r 600 is with lights and a license plate mount. so once i evaluated my ego, and put my riding experience into perspective (none) i decided to go with a sv650s. not a monster, but no slouch either. it is a lot more forgiving than the gixxer and the powerband is a lot more newbie friendly. i am proud of my decision. and anyone who calls me a pussy for not going small, or not getting the true sport bike can kiss my ass, because those type of guys who say things like that are not real riders. any real rider knows that with the bikes out now at days a new rider such as myself has to start small, and relatively passive when it comes to handling characteristics. hey do what you want, just think and evaluate. but in the end its your body and your dollar! good luck on what you get or have already gotten http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

so you think the sv650s would be a good beginner bike??

testosterone levels coming down a bit....LOL ***just joke,so don't get crazy now.****

sounds like a bit of reason is sinking in. Keith Code school is a great start, hell any track day school is a great choice. I enjoyed it very much, so did my fiance.

If you are serious about doing some club racing then you are gonna be suprised to find that a lot of the guys out there start off on ex500's and sv650's these sound like pussy bikes but they are great to start out in the club racing events. If that is what you are buying a new bike to do since you have a TLR you may want to look at one of these bikes as a real choice for this kinda work, many reasons to go that route biggest reason is cost. Racing even just for fun is expesive. however if you are not looking to do club racing and you just wanna improve and have some fun at an occasional track day then the 600 may be a good choice.

Above all have fun and ride in control don't be stupid there are far too many idiots out there and the more idiots there are the more willing the gov is to step in an limit the sport we all love.

nor66cal said:

so you think the sv650s would be a good beginner bike??



Yes. I have a few guys I ride with that are newbie's and they ride sv's and love them, they are powerfull enough to have fun and these guys are improving a lot, one of these guys just picked up an R6 after a year of riding the sv and I think he's gonna be better on it because he took the time to ride the sv first the other guy liked his so much that when he got hit by a car he bought another one. You will be very happy with it.

The gixxer600 is still not a good bike for beginners. And how long have you been riding so that you can toss the tiller around "fast". I dunno http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Where's the flesh when you need him.

hey thnx for the encouragement, and response, i hope i do have fun on it. i know its plenty of bike for a newbie such as myself

hey thnx for the encouragement, and response, i hope i do have fun on it. i know its plenty of bike for a newbie such as myself



]Have a boatload of fun (be careful on a big bike like that though), and watch the torque on that tiller http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

gsxr69 said:

hey dingo...go suck my ass ok......ask'n me which country i am at so you won't ride in...bitch i'll fuck'n crush you on the TLR......smart ass bitch....... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif



HUH! Never thought I'd get a http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif to flip out like that over some lite humor. JEEZ... Anyway, it sounds to me like your the kinda guy I just pull out of the way for and wait to see the accident scene. Your anger issues are what's gonna get you into trouble. Like they said, to each his own. "Crush me"? Good luck on your biking quest...