: My 04 600 times and i have questions
Runnin13s 03-13-2006, 11:14 PM okay well all i have done is K&n filter
stock pipe cut and shortened
and it is lowered 2 inches in the rear
and a 20shot dry nitrous
i went to the track and ran
ALL motor
my 60's where 1.9
and ran an 11.02 @ 125
with the nitrous i ran a 10.98 @ 130
60's where 2.00
only spraying 3rd and up
what can i do to make these times better? what is a good 60ft for stock (no stretching or slamming).. also what do you guys think over all of these times and why cant i get any better times with the spray.
io know one factor was i got kicked off the track after the first nitrous run for not having leathers and they wouldnt let me run full quarter even all motor after that cuz i was trapping over 120. so i was just cutting it off at the 1/8 the rest of the night and couldnt do any better than a 7.2 in that .
the questions are
what can i do to get my 60's lower and the E.T.
also was what i ran normal or good?
Gixxer1146 - Ryder ! 03-14-2006, 03:43 AM I would think your 60ft. times should be around mid to low 1.70, 7.2 in the 1/8 mile isn't bad for a stock 600 with just a K&N air filter and no exhaust, also what is your gearing let us know because that could be some of your problem, around here where i live i know 600 with just pc, lowered, pipe, and runnin high 6.00 in the 1/8 mile, not trying to sound rude but that gives you something to think about, let me know, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!
Gixxer1146 - Ryder ! 03-14-2006, 03:51 AM I also have a cousin who had a kawasaki 636 it was a 03 model, it was lowered and stapped, full muzzy exhaust, airshifter, geared, and he had that bike runnin 6.80 in the 1/8 mile, for what that bike had done to it to me that bike hauled ASS, but he only ways about 140 pounds, how much do you weigh, also i would think with you spraying nitrous you would be runnin faster than that, but you came to the right place for help, i would think you should work on your 60ft. times because in drag racing thats very important because that can tell a race who's going to win or lose...........
GhOsT6_9 03-14-2006, 04:42 AM Practice, Practice, Practice
With my 03 600 bone stock, I trapped a 11.14@126MPH, 60ft time of 1.8sec.With adding a front strap kit and nothing else I trapped a 10.81@128. For the record when I say bike is bone stock I mean completely stock, stock filter, stock tires, stock gears, stock height, everything like it came from the factory. I do have slips for both if you feel so inclined to want to verify it.
So your biggest thing is to practice your launch technique. I know you said you lowered the rear but have you done anything to the front?? If not, I'd suggest going out an buying a front strap kit, they're 20 bucks give or take.
Get used to launching your bike in N/A form, then once you've gotten good at that, then start spraying.
I know I've lowered my bike over the winter, rear 3" and front 1" (plus strap kit) and I'm hoping to get in the 1.6-1.5sec 60ft zone.
Runnin13s 03-15-2006, 12:53 AM forgot to mention that i have a plus 5 in the rear... also i weight about 170.
im only 18 so im def. a newbie to all of this .. but other than stretching the bike .. if i lower the front some would that help the 60'fts? what is the best / cheapest way to going about getting better times.
Rockin C Racing 03-15-2006, 01:19 AM One thing that is helpful and you haven't mentioned that you have it, is get a drag strap for the front of your bike. Yes lowering it a little will help, but you will see even more improvement with a lowering strap. They run around $25 from places like Schnitzracing.com and are easy to install. Another factor is what is your elevation that you race at (ie. how far above sea level are you and what kind of climate)?
Runnin13s 03-15-2006, 01:24 AM well im not sure on the sea level but its on the east coast (richmond area) so not very high and the climate well it was about 80 degress out and very hot but for the most part dry weather. so these straps i seen people with them at the track but how exactly does it help will i just be able to launch it higher with out the front coming up? or is it just because it is lower? im guessing another big factor is that i wasnt aloud to run full potential except maybe 3 times cuz they said they would kick me out if i trap over 120 again
Rockin C Racing 03-15-2006, 01:37 AM The staps will allow you to remove any front suspension. This is hard to explain in words, but I'll try. Without a strap your suspension is free and when you launch you tend to get a pop up action from the front suspension as the rear squats. This in turn leads to the potential of a wheelie. Now with the front strapped and no suspension, the back still squats but now it has to lift all of the front end weight including the tire without the assistance of the pogo action of the suspension. Strapping it does let you launch more aggressively with less tendancy to wheelie. You only strap the bike while you are at the track. This will also lower your center of gravity for at the track, but not lose the ride ability on the street when un strapped. It is a highly suggested first mod for drag racing and it is cheap.
GhOsT6_9 03-15-2006, 03:28 AM Yeah I think Rockin C explained use of the front strap very well. Definitely get one and then you'll notice a difference. And you can definitely launch at a higher RPM.
As an example with my bike completely stock I could only launch around 6K before it would want to wheelie off the line. Added the strap kit and was able to launch at 7500, didn't have time to try it higher.
And like yourself I'm a new rider aswell, and have only ridden the bike at the drag strip no street duty yet. Damn high insurance rates.
nosty750 03-15-2006, 08:18 AM dude dont lower the rear if you dont lower the front. always keep the front lower than the rear. get a strap from schnitz.
i ran one of my freinds 05 r6 and ran a 10.9 something only the second time on it. and all it had was a yosh slip on, everything else was stock.
FastCat 03-16-2006, 06:50 AM RockinC is right - but something that has not been mentioned is that you will want to leave a little bit of travel available when you strap your forks - at least an inch. If you strap those suckers down to the stops, then you run a good chance of flat-spotting your front wheel if you do pull a monster wheelie and slam it down too hard - you wanna leave at least a little bit of travel available to cushion the landing just in case you do have a 'see god' moment.
sneekyworm 03-18-2006, 11:46 AM also what tire pressure are you running, i run around 25psi or so for the track and get plenty of bite at the line.
obxgixxerkid 04-09-2006, 12:17 PM You're only about 3 hours away from me, I live in the outerbanks of NC. There is a drag strip that a BUNCH of Va boys go to in Elizabeth city. I had a 04 600 before i bought my 05 1k. I had it down to 7.01 in the 1/8, and I only was lowered, strapped and 1 tooth down in the front. I only weight about 135 to 140 *makes keeping the 1k on 2 wheels kinda hard*. But like everyone said and not to sound redundent, but strap the front, it adds takes away shock movement, and makes it harder to wheelie. Up 5 in the back is pretty good gearing, it's almost the same as 2 down in the front.
your time is determined in 2 places when you drag race. Most every race with bikes close to the same size is determined at the tree. Your reaction is everything. But also your 60' has a lot to do with it to. How you feather your clutch out, stuff like that.
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robs750gsxr 04-13-2006, 09:23 PM my buddy has a k3 600 and he ran a 10.84 @127 with a stock bike lowered. his 1/8 were around 7.04@104. he would launch his bike at around 10k and ride the clutch out to get high 1.7 60s
knoxgsxr 12-08-2006, 08:53 PM I've ran a 10.9 with a stock/factory 05 600. Just keep practicing.
BakerR600 12-13-2006, 11:30 PM practice. it's all in the launch.
make sure to do clutchless upshift for the quickest shit times.
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