: My girlfriend is having second thoughts
liquidsords 03-09-2006, 01:48 PM My girlfriend has always wanted to ride ever since I started 2 years ago.. but she has a good friend of hers that also rides telling her NOT to do it..every time he talks to her, he fills her head with negative energy about riding... stuff like "its not safe for you" "i dont want u to ride" "I'll give you 4 months before you go down at a stop light" blah blah blah...now she says he's making her have second thoughts, and its really annoying me because I know deep down she wants to do it... I just want her to experience how fun it is to ride!!!
So ladies, what can I do??
jlogixxgirl 03-10-2006, 01:12 AM It is her choice in the end but has she taking the MSF Course? I was really scared to try but that helped me tremendously:)
liquidsords 03-10-2006, 02:34 AM funny u asked...i've told her at least 5 times to take it but she's hesitant..she wants to learn the basics before she takes the class.. i guess shes scared and she doesnt wanna take it alone (girls r sensitive)
so I guess Ill keep pushing her to take it.. i even promised her I would pay for the class so now there are NO excuses !!
nutmegchoi 03-10-2006, 02:56 AM Don't push her.
It's her choice.
You know how dangerous it is and you know what's out there.
One should fully understand all these and willing to take the risk.
After all, it'll be her who pays the price if something goes wrong.
It's good that she's scared and changes her minds (means she's thinking about it a lot).
Let her be.
If she really wants it, she'll do it.
liquidsords 03-10-2006, 03:19 AM no im not pushing her trust me.. she came to me with the idea and she talks to me about it.. i never even bring it up =)
I just want to make sure she takes the class IF she does decide she wants to ride
nutmegchoi 03-10-2006, 05:25 AM That's the only way.
If she wants to ride, make sure MSF is the only way to start from.
It'll teach her how to ride, how to survive and save your relationship.
Boyfriends teach girlfriends how to ride/drive (or the other way around) rarely works out.
Cajun 03-10-2006, 04:08 PM I would suggust you talk to her 'friend' and ask him the real reason, he does not want her to ride. I mean no matter what sorta vehicle you are in, you can have an accdiet. Alot of 'none' motorcyclist believe, it is dangours'
eg 10 months ago my wife wroter had her car writen off. no fault of her own, her work mates didn't say much, 4 months ago she wrote her 02 vtr1000f of at a racetrack, and they keep tellign her bikes are dangous, and she should stop riding and the whole story, she had been riding for 7 years and that was here first accdient. Why didn't they same some thing when she was in a car crash. Its peoples believes. that bikes are dangous and unsafe, and thats alot of crap, alot of the problem is the people who do not see you on a bike.
I taught my wife how to ride she currently owns an 04 gsxr1000, and on a few roads she can wipe the floor with me, i also had a hand in teacher her older sister. and she rides an 800 monster.
So talk to this dude see what his problem is, and tell him to back off, and talk ya girl to an msf course, do it the right way see if she is keen, and start her off slow, and correctly, not thrown in at the deep end
Engloid 03-18-2006, 01:07 AM 1) Seems a bit odd that another guy has so much influence on her. You know guys as well a I do. He's probably just lying in wait....waiting for you to screw up.
2) So if you're successful in persuading her to ride, and she gets killed on a bike, how will you feel afterwards?
My suggestion is to do what makes you happy and let her choose to ride or not, WITHOUT any persuasion from you. Only mention the thrills of riding if and when she asks. Don't offer anything without her asking, and then if she chooses to ride, great. Otherwise, let her ride on back of yours or go ride without her.
AllMtrSlut 03-18-2006, 05:05 AM 1) Seems a bit odd that another guy has so much influence on her. You know guys as well a I do. He's probably just lying in wait....waiting for you to screw up.
2) So if you're successful in persuading her to ride, and she gets killed on a bike, how will you feel afterwards?
My suggestion is to do what makes you happy and let her choose to ride or not, WITHOUT any persuasion from you. Only mention the thrills of riding if and when she asks. Don't offer anything without her asking, and then if she chooses to ride, great. Otherwise, let her ride on back of yours or go ride without her.
+1 and serious about the other guy i would becareful cause that foo is waiting for you to fuck up forsure. just let her know this instead of forcing her one way or another, let her know
"that her happieness is the most important thing to you as well as her safety, and that any decsion she makes you stand behind her 100 % " then she will go tell the guy how sweet and loving you are casue u respect her feelings!!
GIXXERDK 03-18-2006, 08:09 PM Who is HE to tell her not to ride? Immature shit, tell him to grow up.
miltowngsxrgirl 03-20-2006, 04:59 AM Take the class with her!! It's not that expensive plus she won't be by herself.
cehowardrx7 04-08-2006, 10:18 AM My girlfriend has always wanted to ride ever since I started 2 years ago.. but she has a good friend of hers that also rides telling her NOT to do it..every time he talks to her, he fills her head with negative energy about riding... stuff like "its not safe for you" "i dont want u to ride" "I'll give you 4 months before you go down at a stop light" blah blah blah...now she says he's making her have second thoughts, and its really annoying me because I know deep down she wants to do it... I just want her to experience how fun it is to ride!!!
So ladies, what can I do??
Let me give you a hint, :D that's not your girlfriend!! That's his girlfriend!!
How do I know? Been there, done that!!:cool
Also, just like you can't make nobody want you, you can't make nobody ride. They have to want it!!
SuzukiriderTC 04-08-2006, 11:59 AM good point ceh.
how u been mang?
googs
LS1JUNKIE 06-11-2006, 11:33 PM Bikes Are Dangerous. But Who Is This Guy............. Her Pimp????????????
iluvdagxr 06-11-2006, 11:47 PM yeah, wtf? You need to go over to that biotch and tell him it's none of his business if she wants to ride or not. He's not going out with her and has never seen her ride so why the fuck isn't he keeping his trap shut?
Grandevil 06-11-2006, 11:54 PM Deja Vu...I think my previous posts were deleted or something.
low.75r 06-13-2006, 09:33 AM its a love triangle for jerry springer lol
DameCrane1 06-14-2006, 03:31 PM If I was you...I'd check him, and then check her for taking advice from someone outside of your relationship..just my 2 cents :wait
sparky3008 06-19-2006, 01:49 PM I can't tell you how many times people tried to run over me this morning alone.
It is dangerous, if she doesn't have the nerve or head for it maybe she shouldn't be riding. Every girl I have met that rides has a certain confidence about her and it is needed. Fear can help you stay alive in some respects but you can't be so scared that you can't perform.
Some very skillful riders have died in the past few years and have been in the news. It can happen.
Heck this morning right outside my work window someone got ran into by a metro bus while walking.
Maybe you should try to get her around other female riders if she is really serious and let her take it at her pace.
Good Luck, and keep her away from that other boyfriend :)
aMarkedR 10-03-2006, 12:09 PM First I would have to ask a few questions: (to address everyone else's comments)
How long have you been in this relationship?
How long has this guy been a friend?
How do you get along with this friend?
Based on those answers, you might NOT need to worry about him and her...
OK first let me say, I have bought my first bike, and soon to take the Local MSF Course myself. As a potential new driver (passenger experience only) I have considered this many times and backed out many times. My biggest fear was not being physically capable of manuplating the bike. But I find many ladies out there that are capable and I have always been one to do anything I set my mind to do, and I also learned that the MSF Course is available. I have always loved riding and I don't want to have to depend on others to have the opportunity, I am gonna make my own opportunities.
My biggest stubling block has been my BF, a new first time rider himself, initially wanted me to ride with him, but started discouraging me when I showed an interst. He was concerned that my only reason for wanting to ride was because of him. He didn't want the responsibility of my life on his shoulders. (Maybe her only reason to ride is for YOU and he knows what she's not telling you.) He didn't want anyone to point fingers at him if something happens to me. But, once I convinced him that I wanted to do it for me, but felt physically challenged, he began to show his support.
I agree that you should show support in either decision she makes, to ride or not. However, if she asks questions or the subject comes up, affirm her that if she wants to do it bad enough, she CAN and she will know when the time is right for her. Also you might want to ask her, if her if her friend is giving her one sided information to inform her of the risks or to manipulate her for reasons not yet clear. Encourage her to take the course, and that will let her know if she will like it or not. The course here is $175 so that is a good investment, even if it just makes her decision to be a better passenger on the bike and keeps her from driving. Tell her most people that take the class have never been on a bike at all and honestly she won't be the only newbie in the class, it starts so basic.
I hope that she makes the right decision for HER!!! Good luck to you both!
chris08 10-07-2006, 11:14 PM funny u asked...i've told her at least 5 times to take it but she's hesitant..she wants to learn the basics before she takes the class.. i guess shes scared and she doesnt wanna take it alone (girls r sensitive)
so I guess Ill keep pushing her to take it.. i even promised her I would pay for the class so now there are NO excuses !!
surpise her with it and buy it for her. I took the MSF course with zero experience and i was driving the motorcycle at the end.
thefleshrocket 10-08-2006, 01:36 AM To those who said to not push his GF, I disagree wholeheartedly.
My GF is the kind of person who is afraid to try anything new. I was finally able to talk her into taking the MSF course, but she insisted that I had to take it with her. So a 10-year-veteran was out there learning friction zones and countersteering and all the rest of that good stuff, but it got her to take the course. (I had fun too--scraped the pegs on just about every corner, and even had the instructors encouraging me to ride faster. I took the test with a cone on top of my helmet.)
Later this summer I bought her an '89 CB-1 (cute zippy little naked Honda 400). Talking her into riding it required twisting her arm, because she was still afraid of riding. But each time I talked her into going out, she got better and better. Now she's not nearly as skittish and tomorrow she even asked to go out for a ride. I'm like a proud father now.. except not in the incestuous sense. Or something.
Tell that douchebag Negative Nancy friend of hers to shut up and mind his own business. Get her to take the MSF course. If she does well, then strongly encourage her to keep riding. Don't risk ruining the relationship about it, but be firm nonetheless. Now if she just doesn't seem to be cut out for motorcycling--like she doesn't do well at the MSF course or she just flat out refuses to ride, then drop it.
Telefonica_HTown 10-08-2006, 03:51 AM Your homeboy is trying to steal your girl. Next thing you know she will be riding him........ sorry with him. Just watch out man. :crying
iluvdagxr 10-09-2006, 07:10 PM you guys know this thread is 7 months old right?
GSXR1000girlyman 10-09-2006, 09:31 PM you guys know this thread is 7 months old right?
Ok, and? We're just doing follow ups and wanted to know if she rides with him, or is riding the other guy.. Or did he just find a new chick that had a bike already. :cheers
Eric1000 10-14-2006, 01:10 PM sweet :lol
aMarkedR 10-26-2006, 07:34 AM Well I pm'd this guy and he said he and the girl aren't together anymore... so I guess this post is dead... So here's to you for trying, better luck next rounc!:cheers
Ride. 10-26-2006, 03:46 PM Well I pm'd this guy and he said he and the girl aren't together anymore... so I guess this post is dead... So here's to you for trying, better luck next rounc!:cheers
Ahh. So she WAS bangin the "friend"
:lol
aMarkedR 10-27-2006, 07:11 PM Ahh. So she WAS bangin the "friend"
:lol
no, but she did finally take the course. and is still friends with the guy, but he mentioned an accident. so I am thinking that she and the friend were riding together and an accident happened. It's been a few days and I forgot the details...:sleep
liquidsords 11-10-2006, 10:03 PM Holy never ending post batman!! (and yes I'm helping by bringing it back to life) wow I forgot about this one...
Well as aMarkedR said, I decided to cut her off .. and yes it was because of this "friend" (lets call him Tom).. I don't know what was going on but I had a feeling so that was enough to call it quits.
So about a month later, she sent me a text saying she was in the hospital.. so I called and she told me she was riding down a back street, made a left too fast and crashed into the sidewalk. Then she tells me Tom was on the back!! She tore up her knee and ended up in the hospital.
Then of course I said "I told you so"
So she asks me to send her the MSF info so she could take the class. At first I didn't want to because I had so many times before, but I emailed her the site and she finally took the class and passed.
And that was the last of it... she still calls and sends texts every so often, but they're all ignored
lightrei 01-01-2007, 06:53 PM and the circle of life continues!
See Steddy Win 01-01-2007, 07:01 PM gotta keep this thread alive
gfs that ride are teh shit
lightrei 01-01-2007, 07:08 PM http://www.lightrei.com/img/trap.jpg
Will Goes Boing 01-04-2007, 07:15 PM Holy never ending post batman!! (and yes I'm helping by bringing it back to life) wow I forgot about this one...
Well as aMarkedR said, I decided to cut her off .. and yes it was because of this "friend" (lets call him Tom).. I don't know what was going on but I had a feeling so that was enough to call it quits.
So about a month later, she sent me a text saying she was in the hospital.. so I called and she told me she was riding down a back street, made a left too fast and crashed into the sidewalk. Then she tells me Tom was on the back!! She tore up her knee and ended up in the hospital.
Then of course I said "I told you so"
So she asks me to send her the MSF info so she could take the class. At first I didn't want to because I had so many times before, but I emailed her the site and she finally took the class and passed.
And that was the last of it... she still calls and sends texts every so often, but they're all ignored
I'm sorry to say this and this may offend some girls here. I will state very clearly that this statement of mine is directed towards MOST girls.... but not ALL. I know that there are exceptions.
IMO those guys who push or encourage their gfs to start riding are pretty mindless. You rarely ever see a girl who has the coordination to operate a motorcycle in a manner that will not jeapordize their safety. Not saying that they go weaving in n out of traffic and doing wheelies like guys do (that's a diff subject matter).
But problem with girls is that when a situation comes up.... they panick more so than a guy would. They freeze up, they close their eyes and scream, they don't have the natural reflexes to pull themselves out of trouble.
You make a mistake driving a car, you gotta fender bender or a wrecked car. Every girl I know has gotten in at least one accident and some of which get into them repeatedly. You make a mistake on a bike and you'll end up in a hospital or worse.
It amazes me when I saw 90lb 5ft tall girly girls who look like they can't even kick a soccer ball enroll in the msf course just to keep dropping the bikes over n over. Do you seriously want someone like that to take a 600+cc sportsbike and go riding out on the street??
As I said there are exceptions, heck... my msf instructor was a chick. But there are certain girls who just don't belong on a motorcycle. Some of you guys need to realize that.
mike-s 01-11-2007, 11:07 AM ok, i've got a fistfull of 2cents for this.
1) my girlfriend is a good driver, i would go as far as to say i think that more often than not, she's a better driver than me on the road. As part of her job she drives an average of 150-400km per day and says that on an average of 5 times a day she avoids potential accidents because the people that drive in the residential are she works in seem to have an innate ability to be f*in idiots on the road.
2) she trusts her driving skills but the two biggest reasons she doesnt want a bike license are in order, she doesn't trust other drivers on the road, (you know the deal, do it perfectly, someone else could still take you out, etc) and she prefers a scooter as she's not that keen on the whole manual shifting/clutch thing. That being said, she knows how to ride a bike though, has done it on a friends farm a number of times.
3) r.e. the ex and "tom", sounds awfully familiar to me, my ex (whom i was in a rocky relationship from square 1) started talking more & more about a friend of hers from uni who seemed keen on her, i ignored it a bit as i was (reasonably) comfortable with where we were. Anyway she started nagging about engagement (i wasnt ready yet, financially too insolvent for that a.t.m.) and made the reasons clear to her.
Then she started talking about her friend a lot more (matt said this, said that, im meeting him for lunch, etc). I cracked the shits, said maybe we should have time out to think about what we want.
A week and a half later when i spoke to her i got a hint she was seeing him (but i was glad, meant she wasnt my problem anymore) then later on it was confirmed that they were together. More power to her, but i wasnt that interested in keeping up communication with her, ironically i wanted to keep in touch with her family. Anyhow that horse had long bolted from the shed for me before we broke up, a few months later i found my current girl, and mentioned it in passing to my ex (we'd talk once every couple of weeks), and i never heard from her again except to say she didnt want me talking to her family again.
Ironically she reminds me of Mrs Bucket on keeping up appearances (http://www.bbcamerica.com/genre/comedy_games/keeping_up_appearances/keeping_up_appearances.jsp) with thinking she's more than she is, was *ALWAYS* a source of amusement to me, and a reason i'd never had married her anyhow.
ripvanwinkle 01-13-2007, 08:59 AM I would suggust you talk to her 'friend' and ask him the real reason, he does not want her to ride.
when in doubt, assume the guy wants the usual. he can ride in on the white horse save her from danger and reap the reward.
help her dump the loser. he is either dishonest or a wimp!
he will certainly be not much fun!
Engloid 01-13-2007, 09:03 AM 1) You have some serious problems if her "friend" has more influence on her than you do.
2) Her "friend" doesn't need to pressure her, and neither do you. How will you feel if you pressure her into riding, and she gets killed on a bike?
My wife mentioned riding a couple times, and I told her that if she wanted to, we'd make it happen. That was the end of it. If she approaches me, I'll help her. If she doesn't, then she doesn't really want to ride....and I don't have to worry about how I'll feel if she were to get killed on a bike after I pushed her into it.
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