: 03' GSXR600 engine swap to something bigger.
Kurtis309 02-13-2006, 01:11 AM I broke 2nd gear.Was quoted $1200 for stock replacement.$1500 for back cut gears.I would much rather buy a bigger motor/tranny for about the same price and swap myself.But I don't know what will fit.I love the bike and don't want something else.
Turbogixxerfixxer 02-13-2006, 02:38 AM No other engines will bolt right in.. But for that cost complete 600cc engines might go cheaper on e-bay. Or try bike wreckers localy? With a lot of grinding and welding you can fit any engine in there.
Valhalla 02-13-2006, 02:54 AM with very little grinding and no welding you can have a motor in there. all you need are the 01-02 1K motor, wiring harness, computer,hybridracing.ca motor mount kit,1K radiator, and it is recommended you find a750 airbox. the swap takes about 8 hours from start to finish and will go alot faster if you recruit a friend ot two that have a decent mechanical knowhow. you only need to grind about 1/8-1/4 inch from the frame at the front motor mounts to allow the mount brackets kit a little room to fit. its a simple bolt in procedure with the kit and you will be really suprised at how easy it rreally is. PM me any of your questions and ill be glad to help with pics and a good walkthrough.
Kurtis309 02-13-2006, 09:16 AM THat would be great if you could send those pics and the walk through.Help from friends and a place to do it is no problem.Do i need a beafier swing arm,rear gear and chain change also?And where can i get the engine mount kit from?
Valhalla 02-13-2006, 01:45 PM www.hybridracing.ca (http://www.hybridracing.ca) is where you get the mount kit. as for sprockets and chain.... YES!!!!! the swingarm from the 600 works fine but does flex a very small amount if you plan on drag racing at the strip. for normal everyday riding i wouldnt worry about the swingarm. i ran my 600 arm for a year before swapping out to the 1K version.
ruffryder21 02-13-2006, 08:38 PM www.hybridracing.ca (http://www.hybridracing.ca) is where you get the mount kit. as for sprockets and chain.... YES!!!!! the swingarm from the 600 works fine but does flex a very small amount if you plan on drag racing at the strip. for normal everyday riding i wouldnt worry about the swingarm. i ran my 600 arm for a year before swapping out to the 1K version.
i dont agree with the 600 arm not holding up.. i have an 01 600 w/NOS that a drag every weekend for about 2 yrs now.. and im puttin 150+ hp to the wheels .. its dropped to the ground and has wheelie bars and my swingarm hasnt flexed one bit.. and i pull high 1.3's-1.4 60ft.. so ya
Valhalla 02-14-2006, 02:22 AM since the majority of your launch is dependant on your wheelie bar i will excuse your ignorance. the 600 swingarm is not designed to handle 150+ HP and does flex under a big load. maybe you are feeling it since the wheelie bar is taking alot of that stress and putting it to the ground. plus your NAWZZZZ isnt probably spraying the full HP at launch. a bike sitting at stock height and wheelbase will also react diffrently than one that is lowered for the drag strip. not everyone ruins their bike so they can ride it in a stright line all the time.
Turbogixxerfixxer 02-14-2006, 05:09 AM Hey great link by the way!! I like the Hybrid Girls!!! http://www.hybridracing.ca/customers/Girls/girls12.jpg
But when I was referring to cutting and welding I said any engine, Like a busa ? But if a 1000 bolts almost right in great…
Valhalla 02-14-2006, 05:22 AM there was a site that had pics of a guy who swapped in a busa engine. the welding he had to do was nuts to get the motor mounts to fit right.
ruffryder21 02-15-2006, 11:53 AM since the majority of your launch is dependant on your wheelie bar i will excuse your ignorance. the 600 swingarm is not designed to handle 150+ HP and does flex under a big load. maybe you are feeling it since the wheelie bar is taking alot of that stress and putting it to the ground. plus your NAWZZZZ isnt probably spraying the full HP at launch. a bike sitting at stock height and wheelbase will also react diffrently than one that is lowered for the drag strip. not everyone ruins their bike so they can ride it in a stright line all the time.
ignorance huh? just out of curiousity. which do u think has more impact ona arm.. launching all out full throttle or feathering the clutch to keep from wheelieing...neways dude.. if the arm was gonna flex it would flex with me hittin the bars full throttle.. and yes for ur information.. i am hittin the nos off the line. WOT. im srry u think dragracing is ruining a bike.. if racing is stupid then why did u drop a 1k motor in urs? neways im done with u .
ruffryder21 02-15-2006, 11:55 AM there was a site that had pics of a guy who swapped in a busa engine. the welding he had to do was nuts to get the motor mounts to fit right.
the guy who did the busa swap was lee's performance.. it was called "baby busa" do a yahoo search for lee's performance and he might have info on the baby busa on his website. dunno tho.
Valhalla 02-15-2006, 11:47 PM who says racing is stupid? thats what sportbike were designed to do. if you look up the word ignorance you will see that im not calling you dumb, or stupid, or anything of the sort. you swingarm does flex under that much HP, its a unbraced swingarm. there is no way it can handle alot of power. you may feel safe on it, but eventually it will give in and you will probably get hurt when it happens. with the 1K swap it holds up fine under regular street riding, but when i took it to the strip to see what gearing i wanted to keep on it i was flexing the shit out of it. even the people who were watching we commenting on how much it was twisting at the launch. drag racing isnt ruining a bike, the lowering, streching, strapping, widening, and wheelie bars are ruining the bike.
ruffryder21 02-16-2006, 09:53 AM i was flexing the shit out of it. even the people who were watching we commenting on how much it was twisting at the launch. drag racing isnt ruining a bike, the lowering, streching, strapping, widening, and wheelie bars are ruining the bike.
well as i said.. im puttin more hp down and mines not flexing so dunno what to tell u dude and im puttin more stress on my arm than u so.. as far as ruinin the bike..
lowering= can have it back to stock in less than 20 mins
strapping= can b put back to stock in less than a minute
widening= wtf?
wheelie bars= can have it back to stock in less than 10 mins
point is to each their own.. no 2 bikes r the same.. ive NEVER heard of anyone having a problem with a 600 arm.. so ya
Valhalla 02-16-2006, 02:04 PM i was flexing the shit out of it. even the people who were watching we commenting on how much it was twisting at the launch. drag racing isnt ruining a bike, the lowering, streching, strapping, widening, and wheelie bars are ruining the bike.
well as i said.. im puttin more hp down and mines not flexing so dunno what to tell u dude and im puttin more stress on my arm than u so.. as far as ruinin the bike..
lowering= can have it back to stock in less than 20 mins
strapping= can b put back to stock in less than a minute
widening= wtf?
wheelie bars= can have it back to stock in less than 10 mins
point is to each their own.. no 2 bikes r the same.. ive NEVER heard of anyone having a problem with a 600 arm.. so ya
owering= eliminates your corner clearance and upsets your frame geometry
strapping= destroys your fork seals and weakens your fork springs
widening= some people like that big ass tire on there for whatever reason (WTF? +1)
wheelie bars= eliminate ALL possibilities of turning above 20 mph if its set low enough
diffrent strokes for diffrent folks...... be careful on that 600 arm it may decide its had enough one day. iif youre only putting down 150hp on nos.... i still have you beat. i also run -2 on the front sprocket from a stock 1K gearing. i like that low end grunt off the line and to be able to leave busas by buslegnths is pretty cool as well since i still have 600 stickers on it.
ruffryder21 02-16-2006, 02:36 PM i was flexing the shit out of it. even the people who were watching we commenting on how much it was twisting at the launch. drag racing isnt ruining a bike, the lowering, streching, strapping, widening, and wheelie bars are ruining the bike.
well as i said.. im puttin more hp down and mines not flexing so dunno what to tell u dude and im puttin more stress on my arm than u so.. as far as ruinin the bike..
lowering= can have it back to stock in less than 20 mins
strapping= can b put back to stock in less than a minute
widening= wtf?
wheelie bars= can have it back to stock in less than 10 mins
point is to each their own.. no 2 bikes r the same.. ive NEVER heard of anyone having a problem with a 600 arm.. so ya
owering= eliminates your corner clearance and upsets your frame geometry
strapping= destroys your fork seals and weakens your fork springs
widening= some people like that big ass tire on there for whatever reason (WTF? +1)
wheelie bars= eliminate ALL possibilities of turning above 20 mph if its set low enough
diffrent strokes for diffrent folks...... be careful on that 600 arm it may decide its had enough one day. iif youre only putting down 150hp on nos.... i still have you beat. i also run -2 on the front sprocket from a stock 1K gearing. i like that low end grunt off the line and to be able to leave busas by buslegnths is pretty cool as well since i still have 600 stickers on it.
as i said before.. it could all b put back to stock in less than an hr.. so w/e
as far as only puttin down 150hp thats not what i said... i said 150+.. neways if u think u have me beat then post up a timeslip bud and i guarantee u dont have me beat http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif and as far as ur gearin.. i still got u beat.. my setup right now is 14/51 stock is 16/45.. changin it this season
Valhalla 02-16-2006, 09:51 PM of course youre running a better track time. youre strapped, lowered, and using a bar. take that shit off and then we will compare times if you can keep your front wheel on the ground. anyone can drag race with a wheelie bar. but it takes a good rider to get a good time on a stock suspension setup.
Valhalla 02-16-2006, 09:58 PM wanna compare dyno sheets?
ruffryder21 02-17-2006, 10:24 AM of course youre running a better track time. youre strapped, lowered, and using a bar. take that shit off and then we will compare times if you can keep your front wheel on the ground. anyone can drag race with a wheelie bar. but it takes a good rider to get a good time on a stock suspension setup.
im not strapped.. so because i have a wheelie bar im not a good racer huh.. ok dude..i bracket race and have many wins so w.e pal... just b.c i dont choose to run in the street shootout doesnt mean i cant race lmao.
ruffryder21 02-17-2006, 10:26 AM wanna compare dyno sheets?
do a search my dyno should still b on the site.
wheelburns 02-17-2006, 10:27 AM hybird this guy wants your dick or something. second thread hes babbled just to get ur attention. shit i bet u make him moist in the losse twat hes got.
to the poster of the question who would u rather listen to greg who built a hybird o some assclown that wants to be in a dmx video i think we both know the anwser
and leg humper i mean ruff ryder grow the fuck up
ruffryder21 02-17-2006, 10:30 AM lmao a shit talker with the incredibles avatar and banner.. now thats classic
wheelburns 02-17-2006, 10:36 AM lmao a shit talker with the incredibles avatar and banner.. now thats classic
no shit here guy. ill slap the shit out of ya. you wanna be a douchebag ill call you a douchebag nd you sir are a douchebag
Valhalla 02-17-2006, 11:13 AM like my new sig Ron?
like my new sig Ron?
I wonder where that came from http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
wheelburns 02-17-2006, 12:34 PM like my new sig Ron?
more then fitting lmao
of course youre running a better track time. youre strapped, lowered, and using a bar. take that shit off and then we will compare times if you can keep your front wheel on the ground. anyone can drag race with a wheelie bar. but it takes a good rider to get a good time on a stock suspension setup.
im not strapped.. so because i have a wheelie bar im not a good racer huh.. ok dude..i bracket race and have many wins so w.e pal... just b.c i dont choose to run in the street shootout doesnt mean i cant race lmao.
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Drag "racing" is for pussies wih short attention span who can't turn for shit... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
mpdgsxr1000 02-17-2006, 10:58 PM well let me clear up this swing arm flex issue since none of you are getting it right.
the swingarm does not flex when the bike is straight up and down period its working with the rear shock at this point.
swingarm flex becomes apparent when your leaned over and since the shock can only travel on one plain (up/down in its mounting points) and the gyroscopic properties of the rotating wheel wants to only run perpendicular to the ground.
in other words if your in say a right turn the wheel wanting to run straight up and down will push the axle on the left side of the bike down and the right side of the axle up.
a braced swingarm is designed to cut down that movement while in a full lean not while the bike is staight up http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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