: Turbo 750 Project- **Pics & Videos**,,, Almost Done!!!
LoGaN6988 01-29-2006, 04:42 PM Hey guys, another update on how its coming. Here are some pictures of whats been finished. The oil pump never came in so we didnt get a chance to put that iin this weekend. With that being said, it should be 100% done next weekend. Also, theres some videos of the bike running and the turbo spinning for all to see!! Also, some goodies for you guys to check out. Im sure I will have some questions after I think of them so thanks in advance lol. Also, if you notice in the videos, the oil return is not hooked up, we know, we did it so the bike would run and not blow out of the turbo. Well, without further ado:
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*******VIDEOS*******
Click here to watch Turbo-spinning (http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-spinning)
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=BB446317-EDE2-42E8-8D0E-7E8411B0C32F
If someone wants to host the 26mb so I dont have to use shitfire.net, that would be great. Its 1mb too large for putfile. Thanks guys
LoGaN6988 01-30-2006, 06:25 AM So I got a question now……when I put on the power commander/ ignition module the oil light came on.http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I guess what I need to know is what will cause the oil light to come on. I had plenty of oil going to it, I need help!
GaryEvans 01-31-2006, 11:52 PM The light shows low oil pressure. It might comes on for a few seconds after an oil change. Does it still show it with the PC stuff disconnected? I wouldn't run it above idle to check it.
LoGaN6988 02-03-2006, 11:42 AM We didnt try disconnecting the PC or igniton module. It would just stay on the whole time the bike was running. We didnt have the oil return hooked up at the time. At first it didnt matter, not until we hooked up the coolant to the turbo, the light came on. Could it have been because of the coolant not flowing possibly?
MLake 02-04-2006, 11:41 PM Coolant should have nothing to do with the oil light.
Keep us posted, Inquiring minds want to know. Good Luck http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Turbogixxerfixxer 02-05-2006, 10:16 AM I'm not sure, but I'd like to help but The exaust on the side of your Turbo can you post a pic with the flange off..Just that on most turbos the top inside port shoud be connected to a waistgate and not connected together this may give you a no boost situation..I could be wrong I just can't see clearly enought!!!
LoGaN6988 02-05-2006, 01:29 PM Yea we know lol. We have a wastegate for it, its just not connected in the pictures. Thanks for looking out though!
LoGaN6988 02-15-2006, 03:25 PM So we finished!!!!!!! All thats left is the tuning. That will be done around the 22nd. Thats the earliest appointment we could get :-( . Anyway here are some pictures. I took tons, here are just a few. BTW... its at 6psi at the moment. Its crazy, you gun 2nd, it starts to spool... at around 7k, it goes crazy. Tires spinning everywhere. We didnt beat to hard on it too hard because is not tuned yet. Oh yea, it sounds amazing!!! You can hear the turbo spool and the gargle from the exhaust is great too. Overall, we love it. We cannot wait for it to get tuned.
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Enjoy!!! Comments welcome too.
LoGaN6988 02-15-2006, 03:26 PM Oh yea, the oil ight problem was from the IAT sensor not being plugged in. Once we figured that out, we were very relieved.
GSXR6BOY 02-15-2006, 04:20 PM Thats F'n Sexy...... Can't wait to do mine http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
GSXR6BOY 02-15-2006, 04:24 PM Do you have a pic of the turbo next to something to ref is size, maybe a coke can?
HeJason 02-16-2006, 10:37 AM Where did you get that oil scavenge pump, I need one,, looks good.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
LoGaN6988 02-16-2006, 10:59 AM yea i got this one, but i would look around the net b/c there some others that look the same and are a bit cheaper. but this one is working good. http://tinyurl.com/d59vp
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif good luck
HeJason 02-16-2006, 02:11 PM Thx, I will have to add one of those to my parts bin http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
LoGaN6988 02-19-2006, 06:10 AM Ill get a reference pic for ya!
LoGaN6988 02-24-2006, 06:59 PM so i got it on the dyno and it boosted 10psi at 8,000 rpm's http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif, that was way too much, i have no supporting mods to hadle that kind of boost so i guess that we have to try one more time with a weaker wastgate. i am looking to boost 4-5 psi. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_rant.gif
EZ way 02-25-2006, 02:00 AM so i got it on the dyno and it boosted 10psi at 8,000 rpm's http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif, that was way too much, i have no supporting mods to hadle that kind of boost so i guess that we have to try one more time with a weaker wastgate. i am looking to boost 4-5 psi. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_rant.gif
Any hp #'s?
GaryEvans 02-25-2006, 05:17 AM It will be difficult to get the boost that low with anything short of a huge external wastegate.
GSXR6BOY 02-25-2006, 07:36 PM What are you using now the stock actuator on the turbo?
LoGaN6988 02-28-2006, 01:12 AM haha the only #'s it put up were not good at all, the bike sounded like it was about to go boom!!!! at 10 psi it made 80hp hahahaha. well its really not that funny. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/plthumbsdown.gif
LoGaN6988 02-28-2006, 01:13 AM yea im going to use the stock actuator. is that a bad idea?
LoGaN6988 02-28-2006, 01:18 AM im hoping that it will make about 200+rwhp at 5psi. with no fule mods and stock compression, i think thats all i can do. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Boost231 02-28-2006, 01:13 PM well i dont want to put you down but 200 rwhp i dont think that is going to happen but please prove me wrong.
badass1000 02-28-2006, 03:13 PM it will take more then 5psi on a 750 to make 200hp unless you have a really big slow spooling turbo on it.
Thinking more like over 8psi.
LoGaN6988 02-28-2006, 04:27 PM Shit, then we will run 8. Thats the max we were told on the stock fuel components. On the dyno, it made 10 psi by 8k (we were quite happy on the spool time), but that was too much. It blew the spark out lol. So we are going to do yet another mod to the wastegate, were going to open it up and shorten the spring, so theres less tension in it. That, theoretically, should work. Im confident it will. Then back to the dyno we will go. I would honestly be happy with 185rwhp. That would be a success in my eyes. Thanks for the comments guys!
screwball 02-28-2006, 09:04 PM Just out of curiousity, are ya going to run water injection on it? or an intercooler? What fuel map are you using? If you're using the pcII, are you retarding your timing any?
I was just wondering, maybe we could share a little info...I'm building a turbo 750 also.
I was going to run a te04 13g, but i heard they're only good for around 12lbs of boost before they grenade. I'm using a gt28rs ball bearing...msd mc4 ignition...a .074 head-gasket from Cometic, to lower compression a little...coolingmist water injection 50%, using pressure switches and solenoids to control when and how much water, and instead of using a manual boost controller, I'm using pressure switches and solenoids to give several stages of boost. I'm using a cartech fmu for a little more fuel pressure @ boost, stock injectors until I get it on the dyno to see if it runs lean.
I was also curious if yours run lean when you had it on the dyno at 8lbs?
and also if you are running the plugs with the stock gap, or a little tighter?
badass1000 03-01-2006, 03:33 AM 185hp would be very good on a turbo 750. Alot more then the stock 130 or so hp.
A gt28rs. That is the dual ball bearing right? That is a plenty big enough turbo for a 750.
Running the pressures you guys are running I would gap your plugs at 20 thousndths. I run the plugs on my turbo 1000 at 20 thousandths and have run as high as 15psi with no problems. If running 20 thousndths their is no way you should have been blowing out the spark at only 8psi.
If you want a spare .074" head gasket for your 750 I have one. I ordered it when I was going to run a stock motor. Now I am running a completly built motor and using .060" head gaskets. I don't need the .074" headgasket any more. It was a special order and had to wait 2 months for it.
PM me if you want it.
LoGaN6988 03-01-2006, 04:55 AM no im not running water injection or an intercooler. the guy is going to make me a new fuel map.im going to use the pcII and retard the timing a little, the guy said that it wont do as much as i need it to do, so im going to run some higher octain. i ran really lean when we first put it on the dyno, but after a fue runs he added a lot of fuel. I was going to make the gap a little tighter, but at the 5psi that im planing to run i dont think that is will make a diff.
GSXR6BOY 03-01-2006, 02:13 PM Oh man, water inject now!! You will like the performance boost, and you will save your engine!
Good rule is no more then 5psi on a no intercooler/water injection setup.
GSXR6BOY 03-01-2006, 02:16 PM Oh and I just read your post about 80hp at 10psi and 8k rpm...... your gonna can your engine at a moments notice if you continue that. Get the support you need, thats just crazy.
Boost231 03-01-2006, 02:29 PM he can run 8 psi with no intercooler or water injection and the bike will stay toghter. that is the limit dont run more then that and you will be fine. just watch your a/f
LoGaN6988 03-01-2006, 04:55 PM thanks gsr6boy but i know, that was one run at 10 psi, it was on the dyno. its not like im running around tha street boosting the crap out of my untuned bike.
i hope that it will stay togther, the last thing that i need is for this thing to blow up. i keep a eye on my a/f as much as i can. and i only want to run about 5 psi for now. maybe later we can push the boost up when i get some supporting mods.
LoGaN6988 03-01-2006, 05:02 PM boost231 sorry i ment to say 200 hp not 200 wrhp, that would be crazy thow. haha
GSXR6BOY 03-01-2006, 07:38 PM Cool man, just don't want ya loosin the baby http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
screwball 03-01-2006, 08:00 PM badass...yes, gt28rs=dual ball bearing, should spool up pretty quick!
logan...here's a good site to figure out how much hp, etc you could get out of your bike...
http://www.motorgeek.com/index.php?page=6
The best I can figure with your td04 @5lbs of boost is around 178hp with no intercooler, and no water, 13:1 afr with stock compression...could be wrong though.
something else to think about...@12.5:1 stock compression with 5lbs of boost=16.75:1 compression. with 10lbs you would have a c/r of 21:1.
With saying that, you might want to consider an fmu, I've heard several people losing pistons/rings from running too lean under boost. Instead of relying solely on your pcII, It might be the answer for you...otherwise you'd have to make a seperate fuel map for each change you made with your boost pressure. The fmu would let you adjust your fuel in relation to your boost instead of your rpm.
Hope this helps a little.
Malus2k 03-02-2006, 04:37 AM Be careful with the FMU's. A better choice would be to upgrade the fuel pump and get an FMU, so the injectors don't have a ridiculously high pressure. I had a turbo S2k, and just thought the FMU was a poor way of increasing fuel (w/out a piggyback controller to tune in more fuel). Just my $0.02.
badass1000 03-02-2006, 06:13 AM Well I wouldn't run more then 5psi if all you have is a thicker headgasket. If you had a set of JE turbo pistons to lower your compression ratio further then you could get away with 8psi without water injection. I have mine set to come on at around 6.5psi.
also bigger turbo will produce more hp at a lower psi. My 03 1000 with velocity stage 2 makes 202hp at only 4psi.
I would definatly get a external fuel pump and a FMU on your stock injectors. Not a whole lot of money, and alot better set up.
Stand alone ECU with external injectors is definatly better, but alot more money and not really needed at below 6psi.
LoGaN6988 03-06-2006, 04:26 AM thanks guys, ill look into that junk.
bo-gsxR 03-06-2006, 10:56 AM i have a 2mm spacer below the block, and 12mm head bolts. that should make my gsxr 750 srad '99 hold up to 300hp according to mc-xpress. No je's or rods.
but ofcours the engine should get enough fuel, and be able to get rid of the exhaust ( above 220hp - 2½" exhaust is needed ). and too much fuel pressure can make your stock injecktors fail, causing a burnt piston :-(
that has happent to me :-(
dave. 01-08-2009, 07:39 AM wow very nice
cpeezygsxr600 01-27-2009, 01:19 AM how much did the whole project cost? cause i am already getting ideas for a winter project for next winter
sick6ness 01-27-2009, 01:47 AM this thread is from 06 the guy prob isnt around to answer your question, but there are others who turbo'd there bikes on here
cpeezygsxr600 01-27-2009, 02:22 AM lol didnt even notice ... thanks
dave. 01-27-2009, 04:24 PM Did u use a stock intake plenum and stock exhaust manifold?
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