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: Are my feet to big? Cornering Question


Tony SpeedBump
09-24-2005, 07:38 AM
Well i had my bike apart for 3 weeks to polish the frame .... pics in here thread (http://www.gixxer.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1777270&an=0&page=0#1777 270) ... And i just got it done a few days ago... Well ever since i've got it back up and running, i feel like my riding ability has went through the roof... Which is sooo weird. I expected to get back on and be alil nervous and have to ease back into it, but from the moment i've gotten back on it my riding has just been plain and simple better. I can take corners (that i take all the time) much much faster (didn't change anything on the bike except polishing the frame) and the bike just feels more flickable, and its amazing i feel like i'm just one with the bike...... Anyone else ever have something like this happen? Well thats not really my question.... My question is, today (and yesterday) for the first time i got low enough on a turn to drag my peg (well almost...) and instead i ended up draggin the tip of my shoe. So now i'm wondering are my feet just too damn big to drag my pegs? I wear a size 12 (nothing huge) but twice now i've leaned with my foot as close in as i can get it under the shifter (it was on a left turn both times) and my shoe dragged just as my peg was about 2. So does anyone have this problem? and is there a way to fix this? dif. riding position maybe, or maybe a different rear set?

mpdgsxr1000
09-24-2005, 08:08 AM
if your foot is under the shifter its in the wrong spot on the peg http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

the ball of your foot should be on the peg http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Tony SpeedBump
09-24-2005, 08:55 AM
How would i shift up then, your saying in turns i should have my foot on top of the peg and not under it?

Ibidu1
09-24-2005, 01:26 PM
I have size 11 feet, I used to have a dragging problem till I started forcing myself to put my tippy toes on the pegs. Aftermarket rearsets help and or the plate risers. But learn to keep your feet straight and close the side of the bike.

mpdgsxr1000
09-24-2005, 08:12 PM
How would i shift up then, your saying in turns i should have my foot on top of the peg and not under it?



if you need to switch gears in mid corner your gearing either isnt set up right or your in too low a gear going into the corner. All setup for a turn should be done while your still straight up. try going into the turn in the gear your shifting up too.

all you should be doing while turning is looking thru the turn and rolling steady on the gas to get a good drive out, adding a shift in there just upsets the bike and your not as smooth

mpdgsxr1000
09-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I have size 11 feet, I used to have a dragging problem till I started forcing myself to put my tippy toes on the pegs. Aftermarket rearsets help and or the plate risers. But learn to keep your feet straight and close the side of the bike.



I wear a size 14 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ibidu1
09-25-2005, 08:33 AM
I have size 11 feet, I used to have a dragging problem till I started forcing myself to put my tippy toes on the pegs. Aftermarket rearsets help and or the plate risers. But learn to keep your feet straight and close the side of the bike.



I wear a size 14 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif




I thought bears had bigger feet then that

SPL170db
09-26-2005, 01:26 PM
How would i shift up then, your saying in turns i should have my foot on top of the peg and not under it?



You don't need to be shifting in mid corner, like MPD said, if you are then you're not setting up for the corner properly unless you're riding through a sweeping 1/4 of a mile turn in which case you'd likely not be at that far of a lean. In a normal corner shifting like that in midcorner will unload the tranny and suspension and can potentially lead to you wadding it up. And having you foot down low like that is a recipe for disaster (I want you to just image how it would feel to have your foot catch the pavement and get folded under your peg, not pleasant).

Try as much as you can to keep yourself on your toes or at least on the balls of your feet. Alot of newbs I see on the street get too used to riding with the peg up in the arch of their foot in front of their heel. This is a lazy way of riding. Granted it keeps your feet close to the brake and the shifter, but you're riding a sportbike, your not supposed to be sitting stationary on it. Keeping the balls of your feet on the pegs will also allow you to shift your weight around on the bike alot better I find. As was said, I've done it so much I ride on my toes/ball of my feet normally now, even on the highway, I brake or shift quick and pull them back up. Take a look at the pro's foot position in mid corner.

http://www.amasuperbike.com/adm/upl/v7p9ngdnej_1126011632.jpg

http://www.amasuperbike.com/adm/upl/6h30xpmh8z_1114964258.jpg

http://www.amasuperbike.com/adm/upl/j2jetgz1fe_1118065524.jpg

http://www.amasuperbike.com/adm/upl/5kfvr6cx22_1118065587.jpg



Can't drag a knee if your foot is scraping the ground way before it even gets there.

Tony SpeedBump
09-27-2005, 05:53 AM
Thanx for all the help guys, i'm such a squid. Only been riding for 8 months or so but i ride often and i ride hard. I need to get a few track days under me, but no money for proper gear or tires....or track costs at all for that matter. I'm a college student and i suck =(. But seriously thanx guys, i've already began applying this knowledge and its been helping alot already.

SPL170db
09-27-2005, 10:32 AM
Thanx for all the help guys, i'm such a squid. Only been riding for 8 months or so but i ride often and i ride hard. I need to get a few track days under me, but no money for proper gear or tires....or track costs at all for that matter. I'm a college student and i suck =(. But seriously thanx guys, i've already began applying this knowledge and its been helping alot already.



Go get yourself a copy of Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist 1 & 2. Lots of invaluable information there for a new street rider.

mpdgsxr1000
09-27-2005, 11:09 AM
better yet take a race school they'll help you with proper body position as well as setting up for turns, braking, etc

KillBillLA
09-27-2005, 05:02 PM
Well i had my bike apart for 3 weeks to polish the frame And i just got it done a few days ago... Well ever since i've got it back up and running, i feel like my riding ability has went through the roof... Which is sooo weird. I expected to get back on and be alil nervous and have to ease back into it, but from the moment i've gotten back on it my riding has just been plain and simple better. I can take corners (that i take all the time) much much faster (didn't change anything on the bike except polishing the frame) and the bike just feels more flickable, and its amazing i feel like i'm just one with the bike...... Anyone else ever have something like this happen?



I’ve had the same experience and I talked to a buddy of mine about it and he told me he’s had the same feeling. We came to the hypothesis that it may have to do with the time you had off your bike. Maybe you were thinking about your riding and imagining how you would take a turn. Then when you got on your bike you actually did it the way you imagined it, and that made you better. I’m not sure about the other guys but when I’m in my car, which I hate, I think about how I would do things if I was on my bike. I’m not a psychologist, so don’t quote me on this.


about the dragging of the feet.....

Like the other guys have said dragging your feet on turns is a receipt for disaster, so work on learning to ride on the balls of your feet. It will become instinct in a week or two and then the problem is solved. I would suggest a pair of boots too, but that’s just me.

fridayman
09-27-2005, 09:26 PM
I’ve had the same experience and I talked to a buddy of mine about it and he told me he’s had the same feeling. We came to the hypothesis that it may have to do with the time you had off your bike. Maybe you were thinking about your riding and imagining how you would take a turn. Then when you got on your bike you actually did it the way you imagined it, and that made you better. I’m not sure about the other guys but when I’m in my car, which I hate, I think about how I would do things if I was on my bike. I’m not a psychologist, so don’t quote me on this.




During winter when I don't ride that often, I find the same thing. I came to the conclusion that when I haven't ridden for a while I take it easy and relax, which is probably why I end up quicker than when I'm riding often and trying too hard to be quick.

dudeongsxr1k
10-16-2005, 04:28 PM
dude i wear 12's too and in the corners to keep my boots off the ground i kick intot he gear i am sure i wanna be in and then put the balls of my feet as far back as i can to achieve max lean dude and i know that our riding boots are meant to scrape or no big deal if they do , f-that riding boots cost 300 bucks i dont wanna scratch or scrape them.

SVS
10-16-2005, 07:03 PM
f-that riding boots cost 300 bucks i dont wanna scratch or scrape them.



Toe sliders cost 10-15$ a set, just replace them before they get worn down too far...

mpdgsxr1000
10-16-2005, 10:37 PM
f-that riding boots cost 300 bucks i dont wanna scratch or scrape them.



Toe sliders cost 10-15$ a set, just replace them before they get worn down too far...



also dont put that much thought into "not scratching or scrapping them" they are safety gear after all and will get scuffs, scraps, scratches on them no matter what you do just be glad your smart enough to have them and wear them http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

flyingshark750
11-02-2005, 12:40 PM
TOTW by Code is good shite. As for being "one" with the bike...don't ya just love that? Getting "in the zone" is heaven on earth. :::OM::: As for the foot thing, I'm a size 13, I remember the first day at KSSS I was grinding down the toe sliders on my Sidis cause I wasn't on the balls of my feet enough. That was promptly resolved, and now I'm working on pucks instead of toe sliders. LOL.

fatlip
11-03-2005, 11:06 AM
Get on your toes.

Stonecold34GSXR
11-08-2005, 09:40 AM
You could always grind off a couple toes - ground clearance shouldn't be much of a problem then. :-) We call this "lazy footing" where, instead of moving your foot back on the peg to prepare for the corner you're just leaving it sticking out. This is often caused by rushing into the corner and not giving yourself ample time to move your foot, brake, downshift, shift your weight, etc..

Slow down a bit and take your time. Your toe sliders will love you for it.

Grandevil
11-24-2005, 04:59 AM
if your foot is under the shifter its in the wrong spot on the peg http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

the ball of your foot should be on the peg http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



+1 This is the single most common riding position problem I see.

By placing hte ball of your foot on the pegs you get better weight transfer and can better use your legs on the tank to also help steer the bike.

bartona_500
12-01-2005, 04:00 PM
i wear size 16, and this thread helped me out tonnnns.

PhynixBrd
12-07-2005, 08:20 AM
i wear size 16, and this thread helped me out tonnnns.



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif 16????
Holy shit.... I will never say I have big feet again! (13)

Ibidu1
12-13-2005, 06:50 AM
i wear size 16, and this thread helped me out tonnnns.



No your problem isnt your feet its your lowered bike, raise that thing up and you wont scrape again

SVS
12-13-2005, 07:51 AM
i wear size 16, and this thread helped me out tonnnns.



No your problem isnt your feet its your lowered bike, raise that thing up and you wont scrape again



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif Yeah, no shit... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rotflol.gif