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: Viper Versus Busa


Kid Loops
05-16-2002, 11:31 PM
I was having a debate with a friend. In the long run, if a Viper and a Hayabusa (both Stock) were to race on a straight, flat, long-ass road, would the Busa be able to keep up with the high end power that a Viper puts out? Of course, the initial acceleration would fuck the Viper, but what would a roll on from, say, 70mph, be like? Just curious...

oldgixxer
05-17-2002, 07:26 AM
The stock 'Busa would destroy the stock Viper.Bet the house on it.Viper GTS-R w/460hp does a 12.5 1/4 mile@118.5mph,and tops out at 185.The 'Bus goes through the 1/4 at 142-145mph.Think about it logically:the 'Busa will top out at 195 in little more then a mile.The Viper is only going around 120mph in a 1/4 mile.The 'Busa already has a 20-25mph lead going.The Viper MIGHT do 150 after a mile or so,where as the 'Busa is already topped out after that same distance.Once the car reaches 185,there is no way he will EVER catch something already going 10 mph faster a few miles in front of him,and steadily putting distance on the car.

[ 05-17-2002, 05:27 AM: Message edited by: oldgixxer ]

Kid Loops
05-17-2002, 01:17 PM
Thanks man, that reply was informative. But you gotta admit, racing one would be fun as hell! Apart from the fact that I wouldn't have the balls yet. I just started riding SuperSport bikes 2 months ago. Not too long ago, I passed a Viper and I looked over at him and I thought to myself: If this guy starts gunning it, I don't think I'm gonna even try. Plus I'm on a 600 and his roll-ons would wreck me!

jeffw
05-17-2002, 01:24 PM
I would love to see a "stock" busa go 195 mph.

T Bass
05-17-2002, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by jeffw:
I would love to see a "stock" busa go 195 mph.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's stock, honest it is officer images/icons/grin.gif

NOS4U
05-18-2002, 12:59 AM
a stock '99 busa "the fastest production year" will do 195 stock but the new busa can only do like 185 cause its speed limiter. images/icons/smile.gif

Kid Loops
05-18-2002, 01:46 AM
Is it hard to take of speed limiters? And if you get pulled over and a cop wants to know if you've tampered with it, how the hell can he check? Does he have to impound it and take it to a shop I guess?

-Will

oldgixxer
05-18-2002, 07:50 AM
You can eliminate the speed restriction on 01-02 by installing a T.R.E. Basically,this "fools" the bike by telling it that it is in 5th gear.There is no way for a cop to know(unless he really knows bikes)unless you lift the tank and he sees it plugged into the wire loom.Then again,if you get pulled over going that fast,you have much more serious things to worry about!!

stupid 750
05-20-2002, 08:10 PM
If your doing 195mph past a cop, he'll never catch you anyway unless you crash!

T Bass
05-20-2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by stupid 750:
If your doing 195mph past a cop, he'll never catch you anyway unless you crash!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">By the time it registers in the cop's head what he just saw go by him, you'll be in the next county graemlins/thumbup.gif

[ 05-20-2002, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: T Bass ]

joe busa
05-24-2002, 12:31 AM
t.r.e. and some mods and your knocking on 200mph's door. a viper needs around 600hp to do that

Buszilla
05-26-2002, 07:54 PM
These fools over here refuse to understand the power of the Busa. All day long Porsh's, BMW M3's, M5's, Vetts & TVR's. Buszilla will gladly make all of them true belivers. images/icons/tongue.gif

acyd
05-28-2002, 02:34 AM
This post couldnt come at a better time, just got the 'busa put back together yesterday, and today I came up on a brand new Viper GTS withs ome Ernest Hemmingway looking guy driving... I wasn't trying to race him but he rolled it on from 30 or 40 and I gunned it and caught him in about 3 seconds, then at the next light he didn't even try... Viper isn't shit for a 'Busa... My avorite is knowing I spent $60,000 less, for more... graemlins/yumyum.gif

Kid Loops
06-02-2002, 01:32 PM
I love these stories graemlins/bounce.gif . I don't understand how someone in a car would think they could take a Busa. Suckas...

WebWarlock
06-10-2002, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by stupid 750:
If your doing 195mph past a cop, he'll never catch you anyway unless you crash!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Last time I checked, police helicopters went much faster than 195 mph... LOL

setagehtta
06-19-2002, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by WebWarlock:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stupid 750:
If your doing 195mph past a cop, he'll never catch you anyway unless you crash!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Last time I checked, police helicopters went much faster than 195 mph... LOL</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Are you sure about that? I don't know speed numbers of a heli but I don't think that they are that much faster...

kwal209
06-20-2002, 06:41 PM
typical police helicopter wont pass 135 mph.
On a straight highway they are useless (did ya watch isle of man?) But in a city with the slightest turns they are all over you.

T Bass
06-20-2002, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by kwal209:
typical police helicopter wont pass 135 mph.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The helicopter will pass 135mph, it's the pilot that won't graemlins/laugh.gif
And if he did, better the chance of that helicopter seeing 200mph in a dead dall.

Hmmm, should I risk my 500,000 helicopter to the redline to chase a dumbass on a $10,000 bike going 150-175. Helicopter won't glide you know graemlins/laugh.gif

Root
06-21-2002, 01:26 AM
i beat a 94 viper today on my gsx-r 600.
the viper was yellow and we all know that yellow cars are the fastest.
we didnt go to top speed though.
kinda hard to do, cocky bastard was like reving on me in traffic, we almost got far...

GlockEm
06-21-2002, 11:12 AM
The helicopter will pass 135mph, it's the pilot that won't <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Got nothing to do with the pilot, just common sense. Most rotorcraft are not stable past that speed, has to do with rotor blade stall.

Helicopter won't glide you know
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">BTW, A helo WILL glide if the pilot has the skills and reacts properly. images/icons/grin.gif

sgsxrk
06-24-2002, 11:04 AM
Police helicopters won't go much faster than 125mph. You could out run one with any 600. The problem is they can climb and see far distances, and if you turn they can cut you off. But interstate with no radio a police chopper wouldn't even be able to come close to keeping up. Even a US military Apache Gunship will top out at 190mph.......

Originally posted by WebWarlock:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stupid 750:
If your doing 195mph past a cop, he'll never catch you anyway unless you crash!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Last time I checked, police helicopters went much faster than 195 mph... LOL</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

ava165
07-03-2002, 04:08 AM
i've seen a car take a busa..

the walser supra.
it haaaas :

HKS 2835 Twins
HKS 272cams
1.8bar boost...repeat, 1.8 bar....oh my
and a 70shot of nos

70mph roll on. check out the vid its at the bottom...

http://www.walserrz.com/pics.html

im not bashing the busa here, i got one myself. but if i ever get up against a highly modified cyclone, skyline, a few supra's maybe, it wouldnt be easy holding your own with them

GraVity
07-04-2002, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by ava165:
i've seen a car take a busa..

the walser supra. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">aaaaaaaaaaaah but here is really what happend...

http://www.interdayton.com/supra.mpeg graemlins/yumyum.gif

jboutsis
07-04-2002, 08:07 AM
graemlins/icon_wtf.gif Damn that is one bad ass supra...Has anyone beeten that supra?

ava165
07-05-2002, 04:28 AM
haha yea gravity, ive seen that one too, the supra missed a gear tho. its stil quite a feat to be able to keep up with a stock hayabusa, in a car i mean.

walser was up at carlisle PA back in may, he was making quarter mile runs in high 9's.... graemlins/la.gif