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: 'Busa on a Track?


N4cer
05-13-2002, 12:04 PM
So does anybody take 'Busas to a track? I just wondered, because s boy challenged my brother on his CBR929 to race a 'Busa on a track. WTF? Has this kid bumped his f**king head? Pull 150lbs off the 'Busa to have a shot at the 929 on a track.

BTW...there will be no actual race, since the 929 was th victim of a 2nd gear wheelie loop whilst my brother held up a left-handed #1. HAHA! He's not hurt, so it's funny.

T Bass
05-13-2002, 05:22 PM
It's not worth it...
A Busa is made for the open roads, the body drags when leaned over

godzuki 31
05-13-2002, 06:06 PM
Id take him to Road America,long straights there.Busa will need some more ride heighth,lots more.Ive taken mine to gratten ,Putnam,and RA,Im faster on the 600 every where except R.A.600S are more f images/icons/grin.gif un .

05-13-2002, 06:18 PM
the 3 times ive been at the track i havent been able to spot a single busa....its just not a place that they would call home i dont think....

N4cer
05-13-2002, 06:23 PM
I didn't think so...that's why I thought it was a stupid challenge. Thanks for the responses.

Narcissus
05-15-2002, 11:09 AM
Change the suspension settings, slap a sticky 180 on the rear and grow some balls. images/icons/grin.gif

It's a myth that the busa can't corner. With experienced riders and proper setup, sure it'll lag behind a 1000 at the track when both are pushed to the limits, but it won't lag by a huge amount at all. I speak from experience here and plan on seeing some track days this season.

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T Bass
05-15-2002, 11:50 AM
If this.. If that...
Take both bikes out of a box and race.
No setup suspension changes allowed. Busa will get it's lunch eaten.

Originally posted by Narcissus:
Change the suspension settings, slap a sticky 180 on the rear and grow some balls. images/icons/grin.gif

It's a myth that the busa can't corner. With experienced riders and proper setup, sure it'll lag behind a 1000 at the track when both are pushed to the limits, but it won't lag by a huge amount at all. I speak from experience here and plan on seeing some track days this season.

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Drizzt
05-16-2002, 04:55 AM
my mechanic has a 220hp busa with ohlins rear and few otherbits (he now has a gix1k been mod'd, he also has a gixxer 1100 with 1340kit), he takes both the 1340 and busa to Philip Island track on a regular basis and throws that thing around like 750, in the twisties he leaves black lines in and out of corners.. we get a few busa's down at track days at philip island.. i think it is all dependant on the rider and the suspension setup..

Narcissus
05-17-2002, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by T Bass:
If this.. If that...
Take both bikes out of a box and race.
No setup suspension changes allowed. Busa will get it's lunch eaten.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Who the hell leaves their bike stock? Using the tools that come with the bike, 1 minute of setup is all it takes. Talking stock is fine if you hang out at coffee shops reading magazines all day. I prefer to ride.

BTW, notice that I didn't say that a busa would be any faster at the track, just that it doesn't lag far behind when ridden by experienced riders.

Buszilla
05-17-2002, 11:34 PM
Hell I've seen people take GoldWings out on track days. The French & Japanese race the Busas often. Besides if you have good throttle knowledge & line skills (depending on the track). You can do that Duc.

godzuki 31
05-19-2002, 08:36 AM
Ive seen allot of Busas out there.The tighter the track the more brains you need.Its all good untillyou scrape the bodywork and the rear tire comes off the ground.Can you say lowside.

Badbusa13
05-20-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus:
Change the suspension settings, slap a sticky 180 on the rear and grow some balls. images/icons/grin.gif

It's a myth that the busa can't corner. With experienced riders and proper setup, sure it'll lag behind a 1000 at the track when both are pushed to the limits, but it won't lag by a huge amount at all. I speak from experience here and plan on seeing some track days this season.

graemlins/thumbup.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nice to see you get out and about Narcissus.
I have to agree with Narcissus(speaking from experience)completely. You other guys better wake up.........you might just get your ass spanked in the twisties.

Enjoy the pics of the tires on my STOCK Busa after a day at Putnum Park In. graemlins/bash.gif

http://images.snapfish.com/3344%3B49923232%7Ffp5%3Enu%3D3235%3E644%3E457%3Ews nrcg%3D323239%3B26%3A358nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/3344%3B49923232%7Ffp5%3Enu%3D3235%3E644%3E457%3Ews nrcg%3D323239%3B26%3A%3C58nu0mrj

[ 05-20-2002, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: Badbusa13 ]

zturb0
05-20-2002, 04:26 PM
images/icons/grin.gif ya can get over FURTHER.. images/icons/shocked.gif

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/pa0e94831e5eb5931d5235a33f2b86f24/fdc321d6.jpg

on a 600 graemlins/thumbup.gif

T Bass
05-20-2002, 05:07 PM
You need to bag them Battlax tires, you won't regret it. images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Originally posted by Badbusa13:
Enjoy the pics of the tires on my STOCK Busa after a day at Putnum Park In. graemlins/bash.gif

http://images.snapfish.com/3344%3B49923232%7Ffp5%3Enu%3D3235%3E644%3E457%3Ews nrcg%3D323239%3B26%3A358nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/3344%3B49923232%7Ffp5%3Enu%3D3235%3E644%3E457%3Ews nrcg%3D323239%3B26%3A%3C58nu0mrj<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

godzuki 31
05-20-2002, 06:38 PM
Any lap times at Putnam?

Badbusa13
05-21-2002, 09:37 AM
My best time at Putnum is 1:20:45

jamesNotlr1000
05-21-2002, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Buszilla:
Hell I've seen people take GoldWings out on track days. The French & Japanese race the Busas often. Besides if you have good throttle knowledge & line skills (depending on the track). You can do that Duc.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">graemlins/laugh.gif Whats up Ro, so now that your bus is broke in you doing the track day at snetterton on the 27th?

James

godzuki 31
05-22-2002, 06:37 AM
From the look of the tires it was a cool day.That pavement is really coarse.I can only get a day maybe two out of set of 56s.You scraping case covers ,bodywork?

Badbusa13
05-22-2002, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by godzuki 31:
From the look of the tires it was a cool day.That pavement is really coarse.I can only get a day maybe two out of set of 56s.You scraping case covers ,bodywork?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The last day at the track was back in October.

Yes I'm scraping bodywork, engine cases, footpegs, and even the rear brake lever.............guess that's why I bought the 1000 R.

T Bass
05-22-2002, 11:08 AM
I have nothing to prove riding a Busa on a track, what's the point anyway...
For my money and fun, the track is for the lightest slightly underpowered bike that fits.
A bike that you really have to work extra hard to wear the tires out.
Busa's eat through tires so freaking fast when you visit the redline too much images/icons/mad.gif

GixxerRacer371
05-22-2002, 03:01 PM
Sure people take their Busa's to the track.........See! images/icons/tongue.gif

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/1022086791.jpg

godzuki 31
05-22-2002, 06:31 PM
WhenI do a track day I spend 80% of my time on the 600.It costs nothing extra to run the bus.

T Bass
05-22-2002, 08:34 PM
Talking about the suspension being cranked in all the way.
That's what scares me on a Busa, slowing down and bottoming out on the thing because the front is for a lighter rider images/icons/frown.gif
Aroung here bumps can bottom it out on me.

Jonathon
05-23-2002, 02:29 AM
Had my former 'bus at Putnam last month. Started the day with a rain soaked track, slightly unnerving. After some hours of sunshine, the track was bone dry and I must say, I had just a little fun. I agree, the 'busa was not meant for the track. Too damn heavy, gearing seemed tall. It was fun, but liquified the tires after only one day. My suspension was cranked in about as far as she would go. The brakes never faded though. Braking at 170mph for turn one did give me butterflys. I was envious of the stripped down SV's covering the place like fireflys. The 'busa was just too $$$ to risk wadding in the corners by pushing her hard. Cannot wait to get my rebuild TL running. Putnam will be first stop before i even get her street legal. She will not be pretty...but she will be running. :-)

bombaybusa
05-26-2002, 01:20 PM
if u hang off enuff u won't scrape body parts ! take mine to willow a lot ....1.36 fastest time on the busa .

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/p412d51e76daf926e482de77e61605683/fe6189cb.jpg

Buszilla
05-26-2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by bombaybusa:
if u hang off enuff u won't scrape body parts ! take mine to willow a lot ....1.36 fastest time on the busa .

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid3/p412d51e76daf926e482de77e61605683/fe6189cb.jpg<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">BOMBAYBUSA way 2 grab a slider on the big unit. Poetry in Motion! Take Heed all non belivers.

none
06-19-2002, 09:13 AM
Busas to a track sucks!

Repsol_Movistar
06-20-2002, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by Drizzt:
my mechanic has a 220hp busa with ohlins rear and few otherbits (he now has a gix1k been mod'd, he also has a gixxer 1100 with 1340kit), he takes both the 1340 and busa to Philip Island track on a regular basis and throws that thing around like 750, in the twisties he leaves black lines in and out of corners.. we get a few busa's down at track days at philip island.. i think it is all dependant on the rider and the suspension setup..<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">thats why they call him BALLS images/icons/grin.gif

hows about his assistant Ricky (i think),, the kanez on the r1,, that guys a friggin champion in my book..

as impressive as the 1340 is,, Ronny himself admitted its getting outdated,, but i wouldnt knock it back images/icons/grin.gif

TLS-pilot
07-04-2002, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by N4cer:
So does anybody take 'Busas to a track? I just wondered, because s boy challenged my brother on his CBR929 to race a 'Busa on a track. WTF? Has this kid bumped his f**king head? Pull 150lbs off the 'Busa to have a shot at the 929 on a track.

BTW...there will be no actual race, since the 929 was th victim of a 2nd gear wheelie loop whilst my brother held up a left-handed #1. HAHA! He's not hurt, so it's funny.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

TLS-pilot
07-04-2002, 04:36 AM
I Have done a few track days with shawn Gilles
and he was on his stock busa and still kicked ass at the creek......

GOZR
07-05-2002, 11:51 AM
Narcissus is right... but the 12 will do it better anyway images/icons/smile.gif

BoMbay Whats up?

GSXRabbit
07-12-2002, 02:29 AM
I got a freind who races a Busa. I've seen him beat a couple of 929s, but then I've seen him lose to 750s. It is all the rider and he is crazy enough to do wild things on that Busa. It does crazy stuff to tires!

I want him to take my bike out so I can see just what'd he'd do giving up a hundred pounds.

Lota Fun
07-12-2002, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by GSXRabbit:
I got a freind who races a Busa. I've seen him beat a couple of 929s, but then I've seen him lose to 750s. It is all the rider and he is crazy enough to do wild things on that Busa. It does crazy stuff to tires!

I want him to take my bike out so I can see just what'd he'd do giving up a hundred pounds.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Rick?

Lota Fun
07-12-2002, 05:27 AM
The Busa isn't a sport bike, its a sport touring bike! I have no idea how well my Busa would do at the track. Don't really care either, thats not what its for! Wanna drag race? Top speed run? Top speed the Hayabusa is king! graemlins/thumbup.gif

GOZR
07-12-2002, 09:00 AM
ZX12R is exelent for th etrack it's for that matter that in Europe you see a lot of them racing.. images/icons/smile.gif
Busa for the dragstrip graemlins/thumbup.gif

Lota Fun
07-12-2002, 06:42 PM
Do you think a stock 12 could beat a stock GSXR1000 at the track? Since that is actually Suzuki's biggest sport bike.

GOZR
07-12-2002, 10:19 PM
Yes depend who is riding it Lota... images/icons/smile.gif

24 hours Lemans in France the 12 was kicking 1000 ass big time... graemlins/thumbup.gif

Lota Fun
07-14-2002, 03:55 AM
Interesting! Would like to see the race. I guess we dont' get coverage here?

Narcissus
07-22-2002, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by GOZR:
Narcissus is right... but the 12 will do it better anyway images/icons/smile.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I wouldn't know, I've only seen 12s at the dealers here. graemlins/laugh.gif

But seriously, I think the two are fairly even and it all boils down to settings and rider skill. graemlins/thumbup.gif

speed-racer
07-28-2002, 07:51 PM
IT's the rider!

KJ1
07-31-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Lota Fun:
Do you think a stock 12 could beat a stock GSXR1000 at the track? Since that is actually Suzuki's biggest sport bike.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't really think so...
gsxr 1000 140-150 rwhp stock 430lbs wet
zx-12r 150-160 rwhp stock 550lbs wet
-Karl

gsxr313
08-01-2002, 02:31 AM
Up until this year, Rad Greaves held the track record at Gratten, MI on his formula extreme 'busa.

Gixxer750Man
08-01-2002, 02:41 AM
I've seen this local guy with his Busa that has scrapes on both sides. the lowers are all chewed up. So i have never personally thrown 1 around but this guy definately does. I went riding with friend of a friend once who had an 01 busa and I was embarassing him in the twisties. i weigh about 220lbs and he weighed about 160lbs and i remember seeing the busa drift into oncoming traffic in almost every hard corner. Maybe he was just tired from the aprox. 400 mile ride he made from D.C. to N.Y. Who knows. The Busa's are badass but I think they belong at the 1/4 mile.

Lota Fun
08-02-2002, 07:38 PM
My Busa is raised in the rear to avoid scraping and it still has scrapes (new ones) on both sides.
I was chasing a GSXR1K in the canyons near my place and he was getting away slightly, I was sliding in and out of corners and he was too! The Busa is no slouch but its not the fastest in the canyons unless there wide open sweepers, there HP rules!

96Gixx7Fitty
08-07-2002, 04:00 PM
The Busa' can corner indeed. Watch the "Mach 2 Carnage: From Callais to Cannes" vid. They push that thing around the corners hard, and low. It's fully capable. It was stock too.

godzuki 31
08-11-2002, 09:53 AM
I passed as many 600s750s in the corners as I did in the straights at R.A.Passed allot of guys going into T5 and Canada corner.The Dymags help allot here.It aint the bike its the loose nut behind the bars. images/icons/tongue.gif