I have a 05 GSXR600 and i got a 1000 sitting in the frame right now. the front motor mounts dont line up. Is there any bracket kit i can get or do ihave to make them?

probably going to have to make them. i can only laugh at how bad that thing is going to handle. you going for drag only?

i doubt it will handle bad there have been many people who have done it with older gsxr but why do it with a 05 you could sell it and buy an older 1000 but anyways talk to hybrid racing
can't rember the website address off the top my head

Link is www.hybridracing.ca (http://www.hybridracing.ca)

Probably the best place to go for your conversion info/parts.

Why did you buy an 05 600 in the first place if you wanted a 1000 ? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

FUCKING LIAR!

i know a few ppl who have done it and they say it handles fine im goin to do it to my 02 600 to a 02 1000 motor. there was a whole thing a guy wrote that was stickyed awhile ago but its gone now.

FUCKING LIAR!



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ican think of a couple reasons to put a 1000 in your 600.my isurance was 2700 for the 6 they wanted 4800 for a 1k doesnt even make sense to me both are fast.secondly why not have a sleeper 600 keep us posted i may put a 1000 in mine this winter let us know how it goes

looks like im going to be trying this here shortly in the near future so if anyone has any more detailed info id really appreciate it.

does anyone have anymore specifics like how much weight it adds and do i need 1000 gauges and such? hows the handling with 600 suspension?

someone please do another comversion i need a 2001-2003 600 motor that is in good condition http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

haha what happened did you blow the new motor already? ill sell you mine when im done

no im in the process of buying a 2001 gsxr600 that has a seized motor so i need a new one.

well i have a 2001 gsxr 600 still in my frame. ill let you know when its out. but does anyone have any more info on this subject

ok here we go... one more time.

first you need the 1000 motor, radiator, wiring harness, computer, rectifier, and gauges. all the electrical is a direct replacement for the 600 parts. thats the easy part. i would suggest to leave the wiring harness connected to the motor while doing the swap. you will see that it goes in very easy with all the wires already installed on the motor. the back motor mounts bolt up just fine, but the front mounts need to either be custom made or bought from hybrid racing. i made my own, it took me about an hour to get them done, but i have the tools and skills for that kind of work. the radiator and oil cooler will bolt right up. you can also use the 600 radiator, but you will need to make a bracket for the oil cooler to mount to if you go that route. you will also need to extend the fan wires out of the wiring harness if you use that radiator. thats the method that i used. there is also one hose that needs blocked off if you use the 600 radiator, but thats easy. i also used the 600 gauges, but keep in mind that the redline is what is diffrent. so, instead of 14,500 rpm you can only go to 12,500 before she shuts down. i used gauges from an 02 600 and a 02 1000 motor. some gauges will give you constant fuel warning, but i guess i got lucky, mine work great. you should also consider changing your sprockets... the stock 600 gearing is SUPER low for that 1K motor. it will wheelie in 5th gear easily if you stay with the stock 600 gears. i went with a 42 tooth rear sprocket and a 15 tooth front. that puts me -2 up front and she is a monster. good luck with the swap and i can awnser some of your questions along the way. just shoot me a PM

Sweet, Hybrid, thanks for the info http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

I'm looking at trying this also... what was your downtime for the bike once you got everything and started doing the swap? I've worked on cars my whole life, so I have a good bit of experience with mechanics. I guess it shouldn't be too hard.

How does the bike run?

runs like a bat out of hell. today i have it all torn apart for a fresh paint job and i put in a new 1000 swingarm. that 600 swing arm flexes under hard power. the total down time was about 2 days. total work from start to finish was about 8 hours after i already had all my bodywork taken off. the new motor goes in easily. i would recommend some old headerson the 1000 motor that you dont care about when installing the motor. that way you can jack it up from underneath and not worry about your oil pan. i know in your 04 the 750 motor bolts right up with no frame mods or fabrication. i see youre from Rincon. my neighbor that allowed me to use his body shop and gave me help all through the project will be there in a couple of weeks to visit his brother. maybe you can get with him and he can help you out.

here are some of the plastics.
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/plastics.jpg

and here is the bike after the new rear end.
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/stripped.jpg

heres the front right motor mount i made. all i did was welded a bracket to the motor and then drilled holes that line up with the frame. works great, but i wouldnt do it unless youre good at welding aluminum.
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/motormount.jpg

and here is what i did to the 600 radiator so that it will work with te 1000 motor. every other hose stays the same , but this one is not used.
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/Radiator.jpg

Hybrid... that would be cool. If you want, I'll pm you my number and you can give it to him or something http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

sounds good to me. ill have him call you when he gets there he is an amazing mechanic.

Hey

Im sure some twit like myself has asked this b4, but how about swaping a 1000 engine from a newer bike(00 -05) into a 97 gsxr750?? has anyone done it? is it the same as doing it to the newer bikes or wont it fit?? mines the first of the EFI bikes and sounds like a truck at times (old efi problems i am told) and would love to have a nice fresh motor in there..... what else needs to be changed?? airbox, ect.....

Any help on this would be great...or links or anything http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

thanks... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Hey

Im sure some twit like myself has asked this b4, but how about swaping a 1000 engine from a newer bike(00 -05) into a 97 gsxr750?? has anyone done it? is it the same as doing it to the newer bikes or wont it fit?? mines the first of the EFI bikes and sounds like a truck at times (old efi problems i am told) and would love to have a nice fresh motor in there..... what else needs to be changed?? airbox, ect.....

Any help on this would be great...or links or anything http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

thanks... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif



Look in the '96-'99 forum - there's a Sticky Write-up about that there. With pics and all http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

ok well i had put the bike aside while i was out of the country, so im back at it now i have everything i need to finish but i still am not sure what to do with the motor mounts. Hybrid does not make a kit for the 05 and you cant just make a bracket because the frame and the motor are right up against each other, theres no room for a bracket between them. ill try and get some pictures. if any one has done this to an 05 let me know

does anyone have any websites where i can pick up a 2002 1000 engine???? lookin for one bad, need it asap...

EBAY always has some.

I got my mounts made finally, but I had to cut the stock mounts off the frame and weld new aluminum plates on. ill take some pictures when i get time

oh yea... i forgot to mention that in my write up.... you need to shave the frame on each side between 1/8-1/4 inch. sorry.

Hybrid, you said in another post that an 04-05 750 frame is the same as an 03-04 1K frame? Is this correct?

How about the 05 1K frame, are the motor mounts the same?

I have done it and i have the brackets. Just repost and i will talk you!!!!!!!!!!!

just got an engine off of ebay for $1600.00 for everything, also ordered my mounts from hybrid racing. will post some pics after i get the project started.

bro, let me know how this goes AND TAKE PHOTOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOD LUCK!!

i have a question about the exhaust. can i still use my 600 exhaust? i have a full system so id hate to waste that.

i know that the yosh pipe will fit i don't know about a hindle

well if a yosh will fit than the hindle will also. thats all i need to know.

so has anyone here actually done this swap?

IM IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT BUT I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE EXHAUST AND RADIATOR AND OIL COOLER INSTALLATION. IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP EMAIL ME OR CALL ME AT 970-640-6620 WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

You need to use the 1000 exhaust because it's bent to clear the oil cooler tried using my old 750 header because I din't have a muffler or short pipe yet it was all good until time to bolt up the oil cooler.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

it figures now i have an exhaust that is worthless to me, maybe ill try to get a custom head pipe made. ill keep ya'll posted

Anyone know how to get ahold of XRACERX?? he has a header and i can't get ahold of him. ive emailed him twice, if anyone does have him PM or email me back please.

bike is done, runs great, and POWERFUL!!!!!!!!! ill post pics later on. all together it cost me about $1900. and well worth it i think..

sweet how long did it take you to do it i'm gonna do it this winter.

took about 2 hours to do it, went to the track tonight and ran the best time of my life. was keeping op with the busa's. ran a 11.5 on the 600 motor and EMS, without the ems on the 1000 ran a 10.22!!!!!! so interested in seeing what it will do with the ems on it.

wait till you get your gearing dialed in and get used to launching on it. i went with a 15/42 in %@% setup and love it. up until like 4th gear i pull away from busas like they are on 600's. its pretty easy to do the swap after you get into it and notice how simple that bike is held together.

so your running a 15/42 gearing?? do you drag race? what times are you running and do you top out in sixth gear across the line?? just trying to get a gearing setup.

damn 10.22 is bad ass i was runing 11.75s with my best time 11.69 stock wheelbase, non straped or lowerd, 600 but i had 2 thooth down and a buch of little shit done to the motor.

how long of a swing arm do you have? what kind of rpms are you lanching at? i can't wait to get mine down and take it for a spin,

the only track we have here is a 1/8th and it hasnt been since i got rid of the stock 600 gearing and im FAR from able to run good track times. i dont go there too often. im using the stock 1000 rear swingarm and shock/linkage. the 600 seingarm will flex if you do many hard launches. i never had the problem except for on wheelies under hard power you can feel it move a little to the side. i would definately look into a 750 or 1k swingarm if you are gonna do any drag racing. i did my swap mostly for those guys out there that think their 954 and 750 is king shit. it just so happens that in my quest to give my bike more power that i have stumbled on a machine that will lay a busa out all the way up to 4th gear and other 1ks dont stand a chance.

I have a riding buddy with an '05 600 who recently put on a '04 1000 motor with no problems. After he put it back together it looked totally stock. I don't know the details of the install, but it was plug and play in his words. He had it lowered, 6" extension, NOS, and a drag radial, and it was lifting in 3rd. Now he's got a 10" extension and it's staying down better. I don't know what gearing he's got but i think it's stock. And as if NOS and a 1000 motor aren't enough, he's thinking about a turbo.

turbo is my next investment just the wife don't know it yet, but i hae it lowered to about 1 inch off the ground in the rear and about 2 inches off the ground in the front, that way when i strap it it is setting about 1/2-3/4 inch from the ground. as far as the extentions they are 6-8 inch and i have them all the way out to 8 inches. i am running a shinko and having no problems with traction..
pics to come!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

oh forgot launching at about 6000-7000 rpm

here are some pics of the mounting of the motor and the finished product. more detailed pics to come.

sorry other link did not show up. this one works ..

http://www.imagecabin.com/images/O8A32156.jpg

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http://www.imagecabin.com/images/oyJ32448.jpg

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did you buy the mounts from hybridracing or did you make that yourself? how did you end up doing it? it doesnt look welded.

damn well i better get a better swing arm then beacuse i love my wheelies so i guss me clutching it up like the six in 2nd to bust out a stand up will not work to well. i can usally bust out a good 1/2 mile to a mile long wheelie on the 600 so i should put a 750 swing arm on it then?

any one know the lengths diffrence between 600-750-100 swing arms i know that 750s and 1000s have the top brace, i'll probley get a 750 swing arm i love wheelies but i love drag racing argh but i only drag race like once a month vs hitting the tiwisties and wheeling ever weekend

i have a shinko front tire it is the shit i love it i just got it monted 3 weeks ago and i can roll endos so much farther that it's azaming, and i can get lower in the turns it's bad ass tire i was accutaly kind of scarid when i bought it but i got it cheap so i trired it out

i baught it from hybrid racing, it might have cost $160, but it was well worth it i think, not having to pay anyone to weld it and the time!!! it only took me about 10 min to grind about 1/4 inch off of both sides of the frame instead of having to pull the engine 20 times to get it right then fab mounts. i figured just let the pro's do it they know what they are doing. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif

it handle just fine dumbasses , read the weight comparisons and you'll see 8-12 lbs is hardly nothing especially since some of you tote passengers anyway.

any one know how to get those toothed bolts off the rear of the motor i heve every thing off i got the one off with a screw diver and hammer now i'm down to 1 and i can't get it off the motor is held in ther now by 1 bolt screw thing with teeth.

i need to take this screw out of the frame/motor i have allready removed the rod.

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/screw.jpg

i used a hammer and screwdriver to get mine out, they were pretty hard but a little bit of playing with them and they came out. you could also get a tool for them at the suzuki dealer.

thanks
I tired the screwdiver andhammer the top one came out the bottom one is just getting tore up. i'll have to wait to go to the stealership when they open up on monday.

Anybody have any info on swapping a 04 gixxer 1000 engine into a 05 gixxer 600 frame?

Is it possible, and what all has to be done to make it bolt up?

Thanks,
Dustin

Now for any 1000 motor into a 01-03 600 you need to grind out 10mm of the frame right? how does the frame hold up afterword? Ive heard of frames on all the early y2k gixxers from wheelies over a year or two?

Now for any 1000 motor into a 01-03 600 you need to grind out 10mm of the frame right? how does the frame hold up afterword? Ive heard of frames on all the early y2k gixxers from wheelies over a year or two?

You need to grind 1/4 inch from the frame casting where the motor mounts to and not the actual frame beams. It won't harm anything.

Aaaahhh that changes what i thought before quite a bit. So the motor has some clearance from the actual frame then?

So the motor has some clearance from the actual frame then?

That is correct. There is enough clearance between the frame beams and engine that you can do the swap. Nothing to worry about.

it is not that it will not fit without grinding the mounts it is just that you have to make room for the tabs that you have to add in. i believe that it is the third picture on my post above that shows the mounts.

just ran my best time the other day ran a 9.998 @ 134.33 mph 1.527 60 ft 4.161 330 ft 6.381 660 ft
got the time slip framed and also got it on video too. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

just ran my best time the other day ran a 9.998 @ 134.33 mph 1.527 60 ft 4.161 330 ft 6.381 660 ft
got the time slip framed and also got it on video too. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

That is a great launch you got there but it seems like the mph is on the low side??

yeah i have to change out the sprockets to get a little more MPH am looking next year to get around 9.5-9.8 hopefully.....on motor.

TTT just so noone posts ANOTHER swap question.

i dont understand why people do this. if your 05 six is about 8000. and a 1000 engine is about 1500. you need extra parts(exhaust, brackets, ect), luck, and a big ass headache. i wounldnt know where to begin on this project but is just makes more sense to take 8grand from selling the six and the money i would have spent on the engine and shipping and go buy a 1000. you can easily find 04 1000's that were "too much" for the previous owner or that they cannot afford anymore.

sorry but just seems like too much of an unneccessary pain in the ass to me. i know people like to work on their own bikes but this type of project has too many downsides.

if you do buy a 1000 at least you can sell it as a 1000 when you are done. and at least you can ride it on the street. i dont know that many people that would buy a 600 with a tho engine that "I" made a bracket and switched out the engines on. no offense just my opinion.

with mine, i did the swap because i had access to a complete wrecked 02 1K for only $700. i only paid $6400 for my bike when i bought it in 2002 and saw an easy/cheap way to get more power. but yes, i can not see the cost efficancy on putting a 1K into a newer 600 or 750. i also ended up selling all the leftover parts from the wrecked 1K and gettimg my $700 back plus about another $500 for parts that came out of my 600. so actually i got paid to do the swap.

your right it is a big ass headach

its not that hard to get it done if you have all the right parts/wiring/ knowhow

i have it all back in there the headach was trying to get the motor installed. i just don't have time to finsh it.

it only took me about an hour to get it all installed and running once i had all of the parts, what are you guys having problems with?? it was not very hard for me?

stupid shit not lineing up to put the motor in. now it's cold and i don't have time

did you get the brackets from hybrid racing?? or did you just make them??

I'm looking to get the swap done over this winter... glad to see yours running good, fast600.

I've got all the fairings off and have been looking at the wiring and mounts, etc., and it looks like it'll be a pretty straight-forward swap.

I've done quite a few swaps on cars, but none on bikes http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hopefully it'll turn out good.

Does anyone have a list (or a link to a list) of all the parts I need for the swap?

engine, wireing harness, ecu, mounts (got mine from Hybrid Racing), airbox, exhaust for 1000 (or just the headers, my yosh can fit but not the head pipe), radiator, oil cooler, speedo, i think that is it but not for sure. i used my 600 rad, and just zip tied the oil cooler to my rad. works great and you can't see it anyways.

didnt i say that on the first page of this thread? the easiest way is to get a 1K and take everything that attaches to the motor via wiring out and put it into your bike. if you leave it all connected up( with te exception of the computer and regulator) it will all just slip right in where the old harness and componets came out. the only thng i kept was the 600 handlebars and attaching electronics and the 600 radiator. the zip tie method works very well on the oil cooler. good luck and if you want pictures of a DIY set of motor mounts just look at mine on the first page of this topic.

Im decided im selling my 05 GSXR600/1000 w/ 1300 miles on it. Comes with 600 engine to with 500 miles on it. email me at gixxer240@hotmail.com if interested

might want to donate to the site before your ass gets banned for trying to sell in the regular forums.

dont really care

i have swaped motors in cars put a few 350s in s10 had no problem, but what kicked my ass was the grinding and grinding, then relizing that it still dose not fit i had no help from any one take the motor out and put it back in, you deffently need a buddie to help you like i said i have the motor back in wires installed my cluch cable will not work right, it keeps on being kincked , some of my stuff will not reach ware it spost too, i decied to take a break from it at the time i was working 65-70hrs a week at work sandblasting then tried working on it. with out sleeping then get 2 hrs of sleep and goo back to my real job. i will work on this winter once i get a place that is heated. i really could probaly go out there right now if it wasn't so cold spend like a hour and have it all back togeather runing, but i'm thinking about powdercoating the frame now so i might be pulling it back apart ohwell.

i want to do the same to mine, i just blew up my 600 but i heard the 750 fits right in, let me know what all you have to do.. thx

04-05 gix 600 and 750 are completely swappable with no frame mods. you will still need the 750 wiring harness and computer though.

hello im looking for help?? I spun a bearing in my 1997 gsxr750 , rather that fixing that motor i purchased a 2002 gsxr750 motor. what mods do i need to do for this to work? i have the hrness and the computer. this new motor is fuel injected., the old was not..i have noticed that the back mounts will no fit.. and th back mount holes from top to bottom are closer on the frame than on the new motor

Are the 01-03 600 and 750 also swappable?

Are the 01-03 600 and 750 also swappable?

Not without some cutting/welding.

READ THE THREAD!!!!! it is discussed all throughout this thread which motors are swappable and which arent.

bump for the folks i just referred to here for info

quick question, can the 600 airbox be used, or do i have to get a 1000 airbox? the engine im getting doesnt have one...

the 750 airbox is a great fit and the 1000 box can be worked in there with a little TLC

Can someone reload the pics, they are too old I guess, to show up. Thanks! Anybody got some of those hybrid racing brackets laying around?

To do what year motor? There is no motor mounts to swap a 1000 into an 04/05 600/750, you have to fab and weld your own.

Scott

Its an 01 600 frame. Haven't got the motor kit yet, just resourcing.

I have a riding buddy with an '05 600 who recently put on a '04 1000 motor with no problems. After he put it back together it looked totally stock. I don't know the details of the install, but it was plug and play in his words. He had it lowered, 6" extension, NOS, and a drag radial, and it was lifting in 3rd. Now he's got a 10" extension and it's staying down better. I don't know what gearing he's got but i think it's stock. And as if NOS and a 1000 motor aren't enough, he's thinking about a turbo.


where did you hear this from or find this out from?

Originally Posted by Gixxer6hundred
I have a riding buddy with an '05 600 who recently put on a '04 1000 motor with no problems. After he put it back together it looked totally stock. I don't know the details of the install, but it was plug and play in his words. He had it lowered, 6" extension, NOS, and a drag radial, and it was lifting in 3rd. Now he's got a 10" extension and it's staying down better. I don't know what gearing he's got but i think it's stock. And as if NOS and a 1000 motor aren't enough, he's thinking about a turbo.


That is 100% a straight up BS lie. A 1000 motor will NOT drop into ANY bike other than a 1000.

Especially not a 2005 600. I have done a couple of these swaps, and they require some cutting and welding of the stock mounts to adapt this motor.

Also, a Slammed, +6 1000 will NOT come up drastically in 3rd gear on stock gearing. A +10" arm is about a waste unless you are pushing 300+ HP

I smell fish in the area, anyone else agree about the sushi smelling around here?

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ican think of a couple reasons to put a 1000 in your 600.my isurance was 2700 for the 6 they wanted 4800 for a 1k doesnt even make sense to me both are fast.secondly why not have a sleeper 600 keep us posted i may put a 1000 in mine this winter let us know how it goes

That is a VERY good point! :cheers

Is Hybrid Racing the only business that sells the brackets?? The brackets for my 01 600 frame aren't in stock and won't be for another week or 2. I have searched the web and can't find another site that sells them.

Hybrid is the only guy I know that sells them.

FYI -- Hybrid Racing has moved to a new location, in case anyone has had problems contacting the shop recently (no internet in the new shop yet either). It's a 5 minute walk from my place, so if I can be of any assistance to any GDC members, PM me...

Here is your step by step on how to do it!

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96743

So does that shop still exist that sells the 01-03 600 to 01-04 1000cc motor mounts? I emailed them and got a returned mail saying that email doesn't work anymore.

hybridracing.ca is the ONLY place to buy a mount kit for this. talk to liukang and see if he can get you their new contact info

will do, thanks.

Has any one heard of or tried a swap with an '05-'06 motor in to the '00-'03 600cc frames? I'm curious.

Has any one heard of or tried a swap with an '05-'06 motor in to the '00-'03 600cc frames? I'm curious.
Would be the same process.... The bolt patterns are the same.

Would be the same process.... The bolt patterns are the same.

Do you know if this has actually been done or is this based off of theory. would the chain, airbox and exhaust system, and all electricals come from the '05? I had an '04 in there before it shot a rod, but I had to use the hybridracing.ca conversion motor mounts and a 750cc airbox w/ all electricals coming from the '04 1000 motor.

Has any one heard of or tried a swap with an '05-'06 motor in to the '00-'03 600cc frames? I'm curious.

i ain't never heard of it!!

im thinking of having a go at this my self. i have a 02 1000 stunt bike and a 03 600 streetfighter. so i have all the bits minus the brackets which i will prolly get from hybrid.
is there anything else to look out for on this conversion and will the 1000 and 600 swingarms change over or is there mods that need to be done/
cheers
millsi

and also how hard is it going to be to put the 600 motor in the 1000?

im thinking of having a go at this my self. i have a 02 1000 stunt bike and a 03 600 streetfighter. so i have all the bits minus the brackets which i will prolly get from hybrid.
is there anything else to look out for on this conversion and will the 1000 and 600 swingarms change over or is there mods that need to be done/
cheers
millsi

and also how hard is it going to be to put the 600 motor in the 1000? Yes the 1000 and 600 swingarms change over but is not that necessary. E-mail hybridracingca@hotmail.com for all the info on how to do the swap and the necessary brackets.