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: Turbo for 04 GSXR 600


gixxer_rob
05-14-2005, 08:29 PM
I was wondering if anybody knew who makes a turbo for the 600. I have been looking on websites but I can't seem to find anything.

Boost231
05-15-2005, 02:47 PM
rccturbos.com can make you a custom one there almost done building mine for my 03 600

SmurfOnAGixxer
05-16-2005, 03:31 PM
you wont find any kits really for the newer 600s. You need to custom order one, or make your own kit. The perfect turbo for this bike would be a schwitzer S1BG. It will spool on a 600 at about 3500-4500 Rpm. You will need Turbo pistons I would recommend JE pistons. They will run about high 700s low 800s. Do all your own plumbing work, and you will save huge money.

I am am turbo'n my 04-600 this coming winter. I already have the pistons, custom made Forged Low compression turbo pistons from JE, 8.3:1 Compression. I have ordered a schwitzer S1BG from MCXpress Turbos in Sweden. All of the other turbo components I have gotten or will get from www.nlrsystems.com. (http://www.nlrsystems.com.)

I will have pictures in the near future of all the parts, then again this winter when the project begins.

Scott

Boost231
05-17-2005, 03:00 PM
i would have to disagree on some things. I would recomened a GT-28r Which is a garett dual ball bearing turbo. this turbo will spool super fast compared to most turbos. also you dont need to do anythign to the motor if you dont want to. you can run about 6 psi on a stock motor but you will need to put a thicker head gasket (around a 80 thou.) but if you want to run more then 6 pounds of boost you will need to do the motor up some and a few more upgrades on the turbo kit. you will want to either a liquid intercooler or water injection. also your stock injectors wont support much more the 6 psi so you will need to get a secondary set of fuel injectors.as far as the motor i recomened Je turbo pistons. tell them to make then as close to 8.5:1 as possible. then if your going to do that you should do rods as well. i would go with carrillo rods JE can order you these when you order the pistons from them.o there is also a problem with doing all this. if you go with the rods and pistons your going to run into a wrist pin problem. JE makes a wrist pin that will only hold up to 6 psi. the wall thickness of this wrist pin is 90 if i remember right. you will have to get a custom set of wrist pins made. if you find a place you will need around a 140 wall that should support more the 250 hp and over 25psi of boost. if you need all the contact info for all these place to get this stuff pm me. the pistons will be $500 and the rods about $1000. also you will need to get so me heavy duty clutch springs and a gear to degree the intake cam. you wont need valve springs as the stock springs in the 600 have more seat pressure then the 750,1000,or the hayabusa. if you are serious you can call or email rccturbos.com and richard will be more then happy to help you or pm me if you need.

brent

SmurfOnAGixxer
05-17-2005, 04:12 PM
We ran 4 PSi Intercooled on a stock 01 600 Motor and it lasted about 3 weeks. Now if I would of used a Jug spacer 2mm then I could of taken about 7 psi max. But I disagree with 6 psi on a stock motor. And you do not need to replace rods when getting pistons, the stock rotating assembly (minus the pistons of course) will easily handle 15 psi or greater. My personal 96 SRAD 750 has 22 psi Intercooled with JE 8.5:1 Turbo Pistons, and no other motor work, and I do not have a problem with it at all..... And the pistons are 752 unless there is a 300 difference between 01-03 and 04-05 600 pistons....

My Thoughts

Scott

PS. This board is everyones opinions, not everyone is right, so dont take what everyone says to heart, take the info, but make your own decisions. I am not going to give you information to steer your wrong, I own a shop and I do this stuff everyday. I have a turbo bike and I have built plenty. But Boost231 obviosly disagrees wtih some ideas of mine, but thats cool, everyone is going to have different opinions. So dont base your decision off what one person says, make your best judgement, remember its your machine not ours.

Boost231
05-17-2005, 11:19 PM
yes this is just my opinion. As far as the 6 psi on a stock motor i dont think so you are going to need a thicker head gasket as i said above. also as far as rods im going to be running around 20-25 psi of boost so i would recomend it. Also as far as the price goes for the pistons i ordered mine from JE and they where $610.73 so there might be a price difference between 03 and 04.anyways SmurfOnAGixxer what wrist pins are you running? Are they stock? i talk to JE and he said his wrist pins that he sales wont handle the power or boost im looking for.

also i would have to agree with SmurfOnAGixxer its your bike so its your call on what you do.

Dr Speed Lab
05-18-2005, 06:36 AM
We ran 4 PSi Intercooled on a stock 01 600 Motor and it lasted about 3 weeks. Now if I would of used a Jug spacer 2mm then I could of taken about 7 psi max. But I disagree with 6 psi on a stock motor. And you do not need to replace rods when getting pistons, the stock rotating assembly (minus the pistons of course) will easily handle 15 psi or greater. My personal 96 SRAD 750 has 22 psi Intercooled with JE 8.5:1 Turbo Pistons, and no other motor work, and I do not have a problem with it at all..... And the pistons are 752 unless there is a 300 difference between 01-03 and 04-05 600 pistons....

My Thoughts

Scott

PS. This board is everyones opinions, not everyone is right, so dont take what everyone says to heart, take the info, but make your own decisions. I am not going to give you information to steer your wrong, I own a shop and I do this stuff everyday. I have a turbo bike and I have built plenty. But Boost231 obviosly disagrees wtih some ideas of mine, but thats cool, everyone is going to have different opinions. So dont base your decision off what one person says, make your best judgement, remember its your machine not ours.

Why do you think the 600 motor didn't last at only 4psi? Also what kind of hp/torque numbers were your 600 & 750 running? Thanks http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Dr Speed Lab
05-18-2005, 06:45 AM
yes this is just my opinion. As far as the 6 psi on a stock motor i dont think so you are going to need a thicker head gasket as i said above. also as far as rods im going to be running around 20-25 psi of boost so i would recomend it. Also as far as the price goes for the pistons i ordered mine from JE and they where $610.73 so there might be a price difference between 03 and 04.anyways SmurfOnAGixxer what wrist pins are you running? Are they stock? i talk to JE and he said his wrist pins that he sales wont handle the power or boost im looking for.

also i would have to agree with SmurfOnAGixxer its your bike so its your call on what you do.

What kind of numbers are you shooting for once you're done?

Boost231
05-18-2005, 07:28 AM
im looking to get around 250 but im not sure. noone has really done this so we will see. if i can run 30 psi of boost i will run it but i dont know how high i can go with out the motor going boom. I covered all the areas to keep the motor strong but we will see what happens. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_rant.gif

SmurfOnAGixxer
06-02-2005, 02:37 PM
30 PSI your crazy.... Have fun....

Scott

blackk51000
06-02-2005, 02:40 PM
why would you want to turbo a 600? youre going to screw the handling of the bike all up. not only are you adding more weight and unbalancing the bike, youre adding a turbo which is peaky as hell. try giving it gas into a corner... not gonna happen. not to mention, a stock litre bike will still out perform it. i honestly dont think its worth it, unless youre deadset on keeping your 600. k5 weighs the same, and will make same or more hp then a 600 with a turbo.

save your money and get a k5.

Boost231
06-04-2005, 03:30 AM
blackk51000
to answer some of your questions on why i would want to turbo a 600. well first off how many people do you know that have turbo 600's. i can think of 2. I like to be different. i like to have something not everyone else has. as far as adding more weight, the weight difference is not that big to throw the bikes balance off. also the bike will run like a stocker till you get into the boost. as far as the k5 making the same if not more power then my turbo 600 all i have to say is thats a joke.

Brent

blackk51000
06-04-2005, 08:06 AM
so you think a 5 psi turbo kit on a 600 is going to put down 200rwhp? get a clue. you obviously dont know jack about turboing, and it shows through you wanting to turbo a 600. its pointless. you have NO stability going into corners. if all youre looking for is a straight line thing, go for it. id say dont waste your money and buy a litre bike. k5 1k > turbo 600. get a clue.

Boost231
06-04-2005, 08:12 AM
5 psi? im going to be running way more then that. i will be around the 20+ range. anyways you have you opinion and i have mine you dont have to bash on what im trying to do. if you dont think i can make over 200hp wait a few months and i will post the dyno sheet. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bounce.gif

ssgsky
06-04-2005, 10:14 AM
actually they had a 600 they did a turbo on and it got to like 173 hp, so yes it will be equivilent to the current litre bikes. this was a few years ago. turbos have changed in the past 5 years, they spool up a lot faster now, so there is not as big a transition as there used to be. why do people paint their bikes? to be unique
why do people put fur on their bikes? to be unique
why do people do any mods to their bikes/cars/etc:: to be unique.

should a guy with a hayabusa be questioned why they want a turbo by a guy who has the triumph 2300cc bike ?

Boost231
06-04-2005, 10:51 AM
all i have to say if you dont like what im doing with my $$$$ then http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif because i dont care what you think. 600T here i come http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Zilla
06-04-2005, 11:39 AM
20+ psi, your going to kill that 600 in no time. I hope your going to stengthen your internal parts and get some dished pistons to lower your compression.

SmurfOnAGixxer
06-04-2005, 07:28 PM
20+ psi, your going to kill that 600 in no time. I hope your going to stengthen your internal parts and get some dished pistons to lower your compression.



I will support Boost321 all day long on this topic. For starters to get my point across about the post I quoted. Stock internals on a Gixxer 600 Will handle 25 PSI. EVEN THE STOCK PISTONS!! With a .080" Base Gasket (head spacer) and .060" Head Gasket from Cometic gaskets, you will lower stock gixxer compression from 12.5:1 to 9.5:1 (which is ideal for turboing a 600.) If anyone wants to argue this fact, please call John Nunan over at JE Pistons number is 714-894-6650 Ex. 215... This guy builds turbo bikes. Owns a couple of them.

Also, anyone who says a 600 is not capable of 200 RWHP should be shot, Give me 2500 bucks and a bone stock 600, and will be throwing 225 RW when im done with it....

A turbo 600 will eat a litre bike alive all day long (in the straights) obviosly a turbo bike is not intended for twistie riding especially if its stretched, so why compare a race to a bike that is built for corners? In the straights, turbo 600 will beat a stock busa.

Last, the affect of the turbo will not affect the bikes stock capabilities. This bike will still get up and go like a normal 600 until it reaches boost, then its See Ya! You wont lose any ridablity in the bike, if you stay off the hard acceleration, then it will act just like a 600. Hit it hard, and boom there is a 600 with mad boost!

Argue all you want, I build these bikes, I know how to build them properly and know the outcome and performance of them. Boost321 sounds like he knows what he is talking about, I agree with him so he has my backing.

Are we done yet?

Also, why rag on someone because they want to build a turbo 600. I am building one right now as we speak my own personal bike. The idea is awesome, not many people do it, its very unique. Do you see Turbo kits for 01+ GSXR 600s not very often and when you do they are 5G's. But you can find them anywhere for a busa, hell Garrett sells a specific kit for one bike only, guess what a busa. So any Joe can buy a bolt on kit and throw it on your busa, well then guess what, you are just like the blue and white gixxers. Everyone has one. Be different, support the guy, dont criticize.

Scott

Boost231
06-05-2005, 12:53 AM
SmurfOnAGixxer thanks for the support. let me know how your bikes coming along and send me some pics if you want. right now im waiting on getting some time off work so i can drop the motor out of mine. everyhting is undone i just need to take the motor mount bolts out and let here slide out then of to the builder she goes. i will get some pics up as soon as i get my digitial back from my bro.

brent

Dr Speed Lab
06-07-2005, 05:16 AM
You guys turboing the 600s have all my support. Do what you love to do and don't let anyone get in the way. Keep us informed on the projects! Pics too! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif

blackk51000
06-07-2005, 10:21 AM
hey, if you want to waste your money on a pos 600 with a turbo, go for it. its just a waste of time and money. and you wont be running 20+ psi on a stock engine. if you do, i got 5000 bucks says you blow your engine within 500 miles of riding under full boost... if that.

Boost231
06-08-2005, 12:30 AM
HAHAHA blackk51000 is getting mad http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/trout.gif hey blackk51000 if you read the entire thread you would see my motor is not stock. as far as the 5000 dollars just mail it to me because your gay and dont know what the fuck you are talking about http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif go back to sleep http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif

gixxer601
06-08-2005, 07:24 AM
hey i agree with all the guys here who are turboing 600's. its a great and i love to see people think outside the damn box. ive got a 30 dry shot on my 01 600 and i have no problem. ive also been throwing around the idea of building the motor and adding a turbo as well so i can eat modded busas. fuck a 1000 all my friends have 1000's and busas. i prefer to be different. they all said i was crazy till they saw how well my bike turned out.

Boost231
06-08-2005, 08:27 AM
right on atleast some people respect what some of us do to our bikes.

VA2CO
06-12-2005, 02:12 PM
blackk51000 is just flaming. I think what you are doing is great. Be original, God knows we need as much of that as we can get.
As much as blackk51000 likes to talk about 1ks, and twisties, the funny thing is, I could probably school him all day long in the twisties on my (nearly) stock 600K5. And before you try to come back with some "I can knee-drag, hang hard, whatever better than you" comment, remember you never know who the person posting really is. Hey I could be a squid talking big, or I could be a pro. Just thought it was fair with all the grief you have been giving these guys.

Rip that boost up, I wanna hear some 1/4 times when you cats get done.
And burn up a few busa's for me!!!

Boost231
06-13-2005, 04:49 AM
right on will do. i will make a new post soon with some pics and shit since im starting to do it. i have the motor out already and its going to the builder tomorrow. i also have some parts for my turbo kit coming so i will tke pics when i get them in.

brent

QPeat
06-13-2005, 10:46 AM
Let us know how this works out for you..I am planning on making a turbo setup or buying a turbo kit very soon..I have an 01 750 and was going to retro fit a 1000 kit from HRC..I'be been building turbo cars for awhile but I just don't know whats works well on bikes..I am planning on using methanol injection for a high boost level intercooled with piston upgrade and HG..Keep us updated on the bike and what vendors (if any) you dealt with..Good luck.
SmurfOnAGixxer thanks for the support. let me know how your bikes coming along and send me some pics if you want. right now im waiting on getting some time off work so i can drop the motor out of mine. everyhting is undone i just need to take the motor mount bolts out and let here slide out then of to the builder she goes. i will get some pics up as soon as i get my digitial back from my bro.

brent

Boost231
06-14-2005, 02:04 AM
i will do that. im going to make a new post tomorrow on my bike. i will take some more pics tonight and let you guys know who i talked to and where to get some custom parts.

brent

Sniper X
06-14-2005, 06:02 AM
I am planning to build my 2000 600 into a turbo bike. What kits that allready exist have any of you heard work well? I will probably rebuild the top and bottom end with J&E pistons and carillio rods, new bearings from sweedish steel and alll the good stuff, whats the answer you guys have had experience with? Please email me when you answer this post so zI know someone responded.

Thanks and I look forward to a response!

Sniper X

Boost231
06-14-2005, 06:54 AM
i will post all the info tomorrow on what to get where to get it and my experience with the equipment.

brent

Boost231
06-15-2005, 12:20 AM
well i wont be able to do the post today because im a idiot and forgot my camera. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

gixxer601
06-15-2005, 06:04 AM
good luck turboing a carbed bike. thats gonna be the biggest pain in the ass trying to get the jetting right

Boost231
06-15-2005, 08:36 AM
gixxer601 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif make sure your info is correct before you post. my 2003 is FI and also the 2004 is FI

brent

neicey
06-15-2005, 06:06 PM
these are some big numbers of psi boost on bikes most bikes i have seen that have turbos run 8-12psi on 1000s.

Boost231
06-16-2005, 12:09 AM
ya they run around 8 becuase they dont do any motor work to handle the higher pressure. all the do normal is put a thicker head gasket in and thats about it. when you build the motor up you cn run more boost.

damn me again i forgot my camera im making my self a note and willl go get it at luch time. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cussing.gif

Dr Speed Lab
06-16-2005, 02:16 AM
gixxer601 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif make sure your info is correct before you post. my 2003 is FI and also the 2004 is FI

brent

I think he was referring to Sniper X's 2000 600.

gixxer601
06-16-2005, 02:48 AM
ya i was talking about that 2000 gsxr 600. i know your bike is fi cause i have a 2001 its the same thing. call me a squid huh? i work at a shop so i think i know what im talking about

Boost231
06-16-2005, 04:14 AM
Poster: gixxer601
good luck turboing a carbed bike. thats gonna be the biggest pain in the ass trying to get the jetting right

sure sounded like you where talking about my bike but if not my mistake http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif im the squid on that one http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif

gixxer601
06-17-2005, 07:53 AM
ya no hard feelings man.

Zilla
06-18-2005, 12:46 PM
20+ psi, your going to kill that 600 in no time. I hope your going to stengthen your internal parts and get some dished pistons to lower your compression.



I will support Boost321 all day long on this topic. For starters to get my point across about the post I quoted. Stock internals on a Gixxer 600 Will handle 25 PSI. EVEN THE STOCK PISTONS!! With a .080" Base Gasket (head spacer) and .060" Head Gasket from Cometic gaskets, you will lower stock gixxer compression from 12.5:1 to 9.5:1 (which is ideal for turboing a 600.) If anyone wants to argue this fact, please call John Nunan over at JE Pistons number is 714-894-6650 Ex. 215... This guy builds turbo bikes. Owns a couple of them.

Also, anyone who says a 600 is not capable of 200 RWHP should be shot, Give me 2500 bucks and a bone stock 600, and will be throwing 225 RW when im done with it....

A turbo 600 will eat a litre bike alive all day long (in the straights) obviosly a turbo bike is not intended for twistie riding especially if its stretched, so why compare a race to a bike that is built for corners? In the straights, turbo 600 will beat a stock busa.

Last, the affect of the turbo will not affect the bikes stock capabilities. This bike will still get up and go like a normal 600 until it reaches boost, then its See Ya! You wont lose any ridablity in the bike, if you stay off the hard acceleration, then it will act just like a 600. Hit it hard, and boom there is a 600 with mad boost!

Argue all you want, I build these bikes, I know how to build them properly and know the outcome and performance of them. Boost321 sounds like he knows what he is talking about, I agree with him so he has my backing.

Are we done yet?

Also, why rag on someone because they want to build a turbo 600. I am building one right now as we speak my own personal bike. The idea is awesome, not many people do it, its very unique. Do you see Turbo kits for 01+ GSXR 600s not very often and when you do they are 5G's. But you can find them anywhere for a busa, hell Garrett sells a specific kit for one bike only, guess what a busa. So any Joe can buy a bolt on kit and throw it on your busa, well then guess what, you are just like the blue and white gixxers. Everyone has one. Be different, support the guy, dont criticize.

Scott

Well guess what Scott , Boost321 seems to be going through the trouble to strenghten the internal parts after all. And just think you told him that a stock 600 could support 20+ pound of boost when JE piston said they only have wrist pins to support 8 psi. So just think what 20 psi would have done to stock pins and rods. A stock 1000 with a 60 shot of nitrous is about all it can take without braking something. So can you imagine what 200 hp on a stock 600 is going to do. I quess you don't know it all know, do you? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif And I'm not criticizing, just trying to help the guy out before he finds out the hard way.

Boost231
06-18-2005, 01:38 PM
im not really sure what your saying. so are you trying to tell me that my 600 with carrillo rods and je pistons and custom made thicker wrist pins wont handle 200 hp? if so why not?

brent

Zilla
06-18-2005, 02:51 PM
im not really sure what your saying. so are you trying to tell me that my 600 with carrillo rods and je pistons and custom made thicker wrist pins wont handle 200 hp? if so why not?

brent

No, what you are doing is the correct way to build a turbo bike. Its just this Smurf guy is saying that you can just bolt on a turbo to a stock 600 and everything going to be fine. 200+ hp would put alot of stress on stock rods and internal parts to the point that they just break.

Boost231
06-18-2005, 04:40 PM
ok cool i was just confused http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

SmurfOnAGixxer
06-19-2005, 05:41 PM
20+ psi, your going to kill that 600 in no time. I hope your going to stengthen your internal parts and get some dished pistons to lower your compression.



I will support Boost321 all day long on this topic. For starters to get my point across about the post I quoted. Stock internals on a Gixxer 600 Will handle 25 PSI. EVEN THE STOCK PISTONS!! With a .080" Base Gasket (head spacer) and .060" Head Gasket from Cometic gaskets, you will lower stock gixxer compression from 12.5:1 to 9.5:1 (which is ideal for turboing a 600.) If anyone wants to argue this fact, please call John Nunan over at JE Pistons number is 714-894-6650 Ex. 215... This guy builds turbo bikes. Owns a couple of them.

Also, anyone who says a 600 is not capable of 200 RWHP should be shot, Give me 2500 bucks and a bone stock 600, and will be throwing 225 RW when im done with it....

A turbo 600 will eat a litre bike alive all day long (in the straights) obviosly a turbo bike is not intended for twistie riding especially if its stretched, so why compare a race to a bike that is built for corners? In the straights, turbo 600 will beat a stock busa.

Last, the affect of the turbo will not affect the bikes stock capabilities. This bike will still get up and go like a normal 600 until it reaches boost, then its See Ya! You wont lose any ridablity in the bike, if you stay off the hard acceleration, then it will act just like a 600. Hit it hard, and boom there is a 600 with mad boost!

Argue all you want, I build these bikes, I know how to build them properly and know the outcome and performance of them. Boost321 sounds like he knows what he is talking about, I agree with him so he has my backing.

Are we done yet?

Also, why rag on someone because they want to build a turbo 600. I am building one right now as we speak my own personal bike. The idea is awesome, not many people do it, its very unique. Do you see Turbo kits for 01+ GSXR 600s not very often and when you do they are 5G's. But you can find them anywhere for a busa, hell Garrett sells a specific kit for one bike only, guess what a busa. So any Joe can buy a bolt on kit and throw it on your busa, well then guess what, you are just like the blue and white gixxers. Everyone has one. Be different, support the guy, dont criticize.

Scott

Well guess what Scott , Boost321 seems to be going through the trouble to strenghten the internal parts after all. And just think you told him that a stock 600 could support 20+ pound of boost when JE piston said they only have wrist pins to support 8 psi. So just think what 20 psi would have done to stock pins and rods. A stock 1000 with a 60 shot of nitrous is about all it can take without braking something. So can you imagine what 200 hp on a stock 600 is going to do. I quess you don't know it all know, do you? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif And I'm not criticizing, just trying to help the guy out before he finds out the hard way.



Ok for starters lets get some years of some bikes straight, I am talking about an 04+ 600 will handle 20 psi on stock internals with the base gasket and thicker head gasket, that is because the entire rotating assembly (minus the crank) is Forged. I know the stock internals will hold that. Yeah, a 1000 will only hold about a 60-75 shot of juice on stock compression, lower the compression and watch what it will take. Compression means everything in a boost situation. For those that dont believe monitor the 04 600/750 forum this winter, and you will see 15-20 psi on stock internals ON MY BIKE! Just so I can prove some people wrong. I mean come on I build performance bikes, I know what these motors can take.

Scott

JSarv
06-23-2005, 11:02 AM
Good luck to you all .. i think whistlin devices on anything that internally combusts is a grand idea http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif anyway question.. are yall havin your dogs undercut? would be a wise idea while the bike is apart (in my opinion) because with the horsepower output yall want you will eat your tranny just as fast as a lean turbo bike will blow up.. Could be wrong but i have talked to richard at RC and he was commenting on the k4 1000's transmition and how it seemed to hold 6lbs of boost without a problem. 1k's as far as i have experience with have the best tranny's of any gsxr. also as i agree with the idea.. i will dispute a stocker lasting more then 100 miles with anything more then 6lbs of boost... infact i would not have more then 5lbs of boost without internal work. Last question are yall gettin some custom ground cams? because the effects of a whistlin device can be greatly increased with the proper lift and overlap of cams. Just my 2 1/2 cents. but its probably not even worth that. anyway good luck to you all and i would also love to see some pics and braggin sheets.

ruffryder21
01-24-2006, 07:07 PM
lmao this forum is funny... 200hp on 20+psi thats it? lmao.. bro im pushin 170 AT THE REAR WHEEL.. with a 60 shot..... how much do u honestly think ull spend on this turbo project? i spent hmm lets see about 500 bux.. my bikes an 01 and COMPLETELY stock internally and still runs like it did the day i took it off the showroom floor(but then again i only drag it 2-3 times out of a month or when someone calls me out only 5,000 miles on the odo http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ).. 200hp is a low # to shoot for considering the money ur gonna spend/spent here... heres an idea.. take the thousands u spent.. buy a 1000 motor.. with cams.. and make close to 180 hp.. then throw on the 60 shot.. and make 240hp.. thats what im plannin on doin..much cheaper and the 1000;s r the shit now with all the parts available.. 600's r shit now.. they make no parts for them.. nothing internal cept pistons and maybe a custom cam. unless u spend shit loads of money.. and the tranny.. dont even get me started there.. they make nothing worth having.. speakin of tranny.. do u think that tranny u have which is BONE stock.. will hold up to 200+hp? especially with the force of the turbo? doubt it.. gl tho id love to c how long this thing lasts..

GSXR6BOY
02-01-2006, 07:10 PM
Just remember, TO EACH HIS OWN. Let us 600's do our own thing. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

Hell no...... 20psi on a 600 and your talking about.... 250 crank HP http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif

Well, I may also be turboing my bike this coming up winter, its all depending on if I can afford all of the parts in time. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Are you all going to flame me now too??

I don't doubt the engine taking 10+PSI I just don't wanna blow a rod at 15000rpm http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rotflol.gif I don't think I would be feeling to well.
I hope it all goes through though, having a GSXR600T would be nice http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif. Plus the look on someones face when you rape them. I can't wait!


FYI - I'l be using a IHI RHB5 turbo. Not sure if its the "best" but its supposed to be a small little beast.

MLake
02-01-2006, 11:36 PM
Hey Guys;
I have an (01) 1000, I spent almost 4 years doing research on turbines in general befor I started wrenching and welding. Here is exactly what I ended up with.
207 hp
Stock internals
7-8 psi of boost. It spikes at almost 10 psi initially then the waste gate rollls open.
Parts were scavenged from cars bikes and friends.
Fuel and timing maps of course are critical to keep from ruining a perfectly good engine.
I fabricated my own Air box, Exhaust manifold, Fuel rail,
I fabricated my own Feed Tube and Dump Pipe.
I purchased a Rising Rate fuel regulator and New Injectors.
I purchased a Power Commander and a Wide Band Commander.
I also purchased a Forced Induction Fuel Pump.
I have 30,000 miles on it, the last 6,000 miles on 7psi of boost.
It has never failed to run, never broke down, never left me sitting on the side of the road.
All this on pump gas 94 octain.
The turbo came off of a car, A friend owns a car salvage yard and sold me the Turbo for $20.00
Someone here said they had done this on a 600 and it was easy, (I'll not mention any names) Well maybe for someone who has a lot of experience with turbos it would be easy but keeping in mind that one small mistake will fry an engine, I dont see anything easy about it!
I just purchased the Wide Band Commander two weeks ago and befor that purchase I only had $1600 bucks in the whole project......Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Most people know that there is nothing in life for free, But a turbo will get extra FREE oxygen out of the air, if you have the formula correct.
I could not have done this on my own, I have at least four good friends that helped with information, Had it not been for their knowledge I surly would have fryed the engine.

SmurfOnAGixxer
02-02-2006, 02:36 AM
lmao this forum is funny... 200hp on 20+psi thats it? lmao.. bro im pushin 170 AT THE REAR WHEEL.. with a 60 shot..... how much do u honestly think ull spend on this turbo project? i spent hmm lets see about 500 bux.. my bikes an 01 and COMPLETELY stock internally and still runs like it did the day i took it off the showroom floor(but then again i only drag it 2-3 times out of a month or when someone calls me out only 5,000 miles on the odo http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ).. 200hp is a low # to shoot for considering the money ur gonna spend/spent here... heres an idea.. take the thousands u spent.. buy a 1000 motor.. with cams.. and make close to 180 hp.. then throw on the 60 shot.. and make 240hp.. thats what im plannin on doin..much cheaper and the 1000;s r the shit now with all the parts available.. 600's r shit now.. they make no parts for them.. nothing internal cept pistons and maybe a custom cam. unless u spend shit loads of money.. and the tranny.. dont even get me started there.. they make nothing worth having.. speakin of tranny.. do u think that tranny u have which is BONE stock.. will hold up to 200+hp? especially with the force of the turbo? doubt it.. gl tho id love to c how long this thing lasts..



I am gonna say this right now
NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!

You do not have a full 60 shot on a bone stock 600. A true 60 shot would only come wet, and to do that you would have to have additional fuel, so you did just throw that on your bike... But if you want to fence up an argument, before you post back up here saying you have it and Im wrong, get pictures, I want to see your nitrous setup, to do a full 60 shot, you need one fogger nozzel in each throttle body, and you dont have enough nitrous tank to hold more than maybe 2 shots unless you are running a 2lb bottle in the open, so pictures are worth a 1000 words, if you can post em and prove me wrong, guess what, I will shut up....

also your knowledge of bikes isnt that great.... any performance part you can find for a 1000 exists for a 600, I can get rods, pistons, crank, cases, anything you want to beef up a 600. So I want to know how you know nothing is available for a 600? Ask Chip at KWS how he build that 132HP GSXR 600 no nitrous, no turbo naturally aspirated, and it will smoke a 750? Look at the list of parts he has in that engine, and you say they dont make anything for a 600....

ruffryder21
02-02-2006, 04:22 PM
u want pix eh? can do.. and yes its a 60 shot my friend and yes its wet.. and yes i have nozzles in each thro. body http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif and yes i have added fuel via external fuel pump. and yes its a 2lb bottle mounted in the trunk.. i get maybe 4-6 full shots in the 1/8th mile b4 i empty the bottle and refill it.. i never let the bottle go completely empty. sure u can get parts.. and u pay out the ass for them.. i didnt say they DIDNT exist.. u pay for custom made cams.. rods.. etc. but as far as the tranny goes.. no they dont make the same and all parts as they do a 1000 or a busa.. id love for u to find a lockup or slider for a 600.. makin 132hp isnt that hard to do on motor.. esp when u run race fuel. but neways.. ill go find those pix.. until then .... and mlake.. must b nice to have connections. thats the only way ull build a turbo bike cheap gj. all im sayin is u can get just as much if not more with nos.. and still b safe and spend ALOT less money.. neways..while were at it smurf.. i guess u also wouldnt believe that my 01 600 runs a 6.13 @114mph in the 1/8 th either would ya with a 1.4 short time. and with proper gearin i strongly believe itll hit the 5's.. ill post pix of the 1000 im purchasing if the deal goes through 2morrow..

ruffryder21
02-02-2006, 05:02 PM
pix of the bike and nos. havent finished painting.. and shitty camera..


http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/DSC01976.JPG

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/Jam0790.jpg

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/Jam0820.jpg

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/DSC019851.JPG

ruffryder21
02-02-2006, 05:07 PM
and heres the pix of the 1000 im buying.. can u believe im gettin this bike for 3200 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif




http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/suzu7.JPG
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/suzu5.JPG
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/suzu8.JPG
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/39_3.jpg
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/93_3.jpg
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/18_3.jpg
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/62_30.jpg
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/3f_3.jpg
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/b1_3.jpg

GSXR6BOY
02-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Funny how only the 2 pics showing the nos setup are extremely low quality..... Retake please!

ruffryder21
02-02-2006, 07:54 PM
Funny how only the 2 pics showing the nos setup are extremely low quality..... Retake please!



ya that was with my shitty ass camera.. borrowed a buddies for the other pix.. ill take some new ones 2morrow...

WHATCHA THINK ABOUT THAT 04 1000? SHITS CLEAN HUH http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

SmurfOnAGixxer
02-03-2006, 08:57 AM
Yea its a nice bike, so 6.13 in the 1/8th huh, so what do you pull in the 1/4? on your 600, I run 10.8 on a STOCK 04 600.... Just lowered....

Your wrong about one thing, nitrous is not safer than a turbo. Less to build a nitrous system yes, but in the long run, only getting so many shots, then having to refill, I can keep going, my turbo doesnt get empty !!

PS. Better pictures.... Now I believe you have the system, now I want to see the dyno charts. I will bet money that you dont get a full 60hp gain. I bet you have some blow by also cause stock rings wont handle 60shot forever....

And another FYI Chips 600 that has 132 RWHP, does NOT require race gas, can be used on pump gas.....

GSXR6BOY
02-03-2006, 12:17 PM
Yea its a nice bike, so 6.13 in the 1/8th huh, so what do you pull in the 1/4? on your 600, I run 10.8 on a STOCK 04 600.... Just lowered....

Your wrong about one thing, nitrous is not safer than a turbo. Less to build a nitrous system yes, but in the long run, only getting so many shots, then having to refill, I can keep going, my turbo doesnt get empty !!

PS. Better pictures.... Now I believe you have the system, now I want to see the dyno charts. I will bet money that you dont get a full 60hp gain. I bet you have some blow by also cause stock rings wont handle 60shot forever....

And another FYI Chips 600 that has 132 RWHP, does NOT require race gas, can be used on pump gas.....



I want that 132RWHP engine! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif

EZ way
02-08-2006, 11:01 AM
Funny how only the 2 pics showing the nos setup are extremely low quality..... Retake please!



ya that was with my shitty ass camera.. borrowed a buddies for the other pix.. ill take some new ones 2morrow...

WHATCHA THINK ABOUT THAT 04 1000? SHITS CLEAN HUH http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Was that built by Roaring Toyz?

Dr. Fer
02-09-2006, 07:01 AM
First, there aren't a lot of guys out there who have installed or tuned a turbo. Anyone who has, has earned my respect.

I don't have any qualms about turboing a 600, as long as it is fuel injected. If I was going to do it, I would send the crank to Falicon to be reworked, install titanium rods or Crower rods, turbo pistons, cam and gears. Then, I would consider going to 20 psi IF and ONLY IF I had an intercooler and proper boost controller.

Going to 20 Psi on stock internals without grenading it would be contradictory to anyone's experience that I know of, who has turboed bikes before. Personally I don't think there's a chance in hell that a stock Suzuki motor, no matter what year or displacement could handle close to that. (This is assuming that the turbo is not a Rayjay that takes so long to get to full boost that 20 psi could be the setting, but it never gets there).

If someone is interested in spending their own money to push mechanical limits, I will back them 100 percent by providing them with experience and knowledge about how to protect their investment. If you or anyone could pull off more than 14 psi on a stock 600 motor, I would more than buy them lunch. 20 psi? I am just not giong to believe it without seeing it actually work.

my bike that I built; MC Xpress turbocharged-intercooled 10psi GSXR1000

HeJason
02-09-2006, 08:41 PM
First, there aren't a lot of guys out there who have installed or tuned a turbo. Anyone who has, has earned my respect.

I don't have any qualms about turboing a 600, as long as it is fuel injected. If I was going to do it, I would send the crank to Falicon to be reworked, install titanium rods or Crower rods, turbo pistons, cam and gears. Then, I would consider going to 20 psi IF and ONLY IF I had an intercooler and proper boost controller.

Going to 20 Psi on stock internals without grenading it would be contradictory to anyone's experience that I know of, who has turboed bikes before. Personally I don't think there's a chance in hell that a stock Suzuki motor, no matter what year or displacement could handle close to that. (This is assuming that the turbo is not a Rayjay that takes so long to get to full boost that 20 psi could be the setting, but it never gets there).

If someone is interested in spending their own money to push mechanical limits, I will back them 100 percent by providing them with experience and knowledge about how to protect their investment. If you or anyone could pull off more than 14 psi on a stock 600 motor, I would more than buy them lunch. 20 psi? I am just not giong to believe it without seeing it actually work.

my bike that I built; MC Xpress turbocharged-intercooled 10psi GSXR1000


Long time no see Doc,, get a new bike yet?? My motor is being rebuilt again,, cracked the block.. Hopefully it was just a defect, and I ever see that problem again http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ..

Dr. Fer
02-10-2006, 06:05 AM
nope, no new bike yet. I am still racing pocket bikes though. I am up for a new job and a raise, so I have been back lurking in the bike world. I am passively considering buying a turbo busa, or a 05/06 GSXR1k and turboing it...

sorry to hear about your block cracking, but at least you had a lot more fun than most people with yours before it broke http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

EZ way
02-18-2006, 03:49 AM
ruffryder, does it ever look like this bike: http://roaringtoyz.com/Featured/04red1000bigwheel/04%20red%201000%20big%20wheel.html

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ruffryder21
02-18-2006, 12:23 PM
ruffryder, does it ever look like this bike: http://roaringtoyz.com/Featured/04red1000bigwheel/04%20red%201000%20big%20wheel.html

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



ya turns out it was a scam.. good thing i never sent any money http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

speedracerx808
03-19-2006, 06:48 PM
idk if the guy was still looking for a turbo or not, but http://www.turbobikeresearch.com/ makes drop in turbo kits for the bike.

bo-gsxR
03-20-2006, 06:38 AM
The smaller Turbo the bether! SEE my dyno's for comparisin.
http://skakmat.webbyen.dk/hentfil.asp?hentfil=202024
the tallers curve is a '99 R1 turbo ( S1BG turbo mc-x), next i My gsxr 750 srad(mc-x)(S1BG turbo) and the last one is a gsxr750 srad ( T28 bb turbo) both guys are friends of me.
the 750 with a T28 is lacking 40 HP!!! at 80 mph/app. 7.000 rpm. ( 15hp lack at 6.000 rpm).
this was at a dyno test last summer ( where i found out that ignition avancing made my bike detonate :-( ).
( and the R1 had a bad clucth and 8 psi boost ).
So i will not recommend bigger turbo's than the S1BG below 230 hp.
The S1BG is what mc-xpress uses on both the 1000 cc's, 750's and 600 gsxr's. it is very good until 220 -230 hp.

Carnage R1
05-17-2006, 11:52 PM
www.turbobikeresearch.com