i am thinking of buying pirellis next, and i was wondering if anyone has used them on thier gixxers. i am thinking of the mrs supercorsa or the dragon evo's images/icons/shocked.gif

I had corsas on my 96, I liked them! of course I had the poser 200 rear! but I am man enough, plus there is no steering dampner stock on that year

I have never used them myself but from what a friend told me is they are wonderful sticky tires. The preformance is apparently great for sportbikes.The downfall is they don't last very long at all. I thought about switching to them too but I am too happy with 207's to really gripe images/icons/smile.gif

jontflesh

I use Pirellis on all of My Ferrari Testarossas!! images/icons/rolleyes.gifYeah right! images/icons/grin.gif

[ 06-22-2001: Message edited by: Joey-GSXR1100 ]

BMF, I have ridden a few bikes with perellis
748, 900ss, and a super hawk, I didnt think too much of them it seemed that they needed a real long time to warm up
my advice stick tih 207's I have also heard that bt-56ss's are good as well as pilots
but I use the 207's
Karl

i have the 207's now. i like them they have good grip and they are predictable. but i would like to try pirellis because ive heard good things about them. but i dont want to spend the money on something and have them be worse then the 207zr. i might get the 207 gp also. i know it will take longer to heat up especially on the street, but i would like to have a very good tire for when i get to the track this season.and thanks for any and all help guys.

[ 06-22-2001: Message edited by: bmfgsxr ]

Had the corsa's on my Aprilia. Loved 'em.

Why don't you try the new Bt010 from Bridgestone? I have them and they rock...

I have the Dragon Evos.
They're real nice.
Maybe better than the 207's.
I had around 35-40 psi on my Dunlop's and switched to the Evos with 30-32 for the track just the other day. Seems to heat up and stick well. They have more rubber to them than the 207's but with the reduced pressure, I'll have to see how long they last.

does anyone have the specs on the 207zr, both 190 and 180 the 207gp 180 and the pirelli super corsa 180 and 190.when i say specs i mean all info like diameter,belt config.,weight,etc.. it is all pertinent. diameter effects your gearing. and all the other stuff has effects im concerned with. basically are they a better tire that will be stickier, and heat up good with good feedback, predictability and all that kind of stuff.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yellowboy:
I have the Dragon Evos.
They're real nice.
Maybe better than the 207's.
I had around 35-40 psi on my Dunlop's and switched to the Evos with 30-32 for the track just the other day. Seems to heat up and stick well. They have more rubber to them than the 207's but with the reduced pressure, I'll have to see how long they last.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DEFINETLY better than the 207's I unfortunately had to put 207's on my bike as they were the only tire the dealers in my area had in stock. I am looking to move to either the Pirelli or the Michelin's.

There The Best Tire!! Now i Race with New Rennsports witch are that same thing almost.

It's funny.. I know I shouldn't really have mismatched tires.. but I have both images/icons/grin.gif pirelli super corsa dragon's in the front and bt-56ss's in the rear

the seem to grip well.. but the corsa seems to wear fast...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lodown:
It's funny.. I know I shouldn't really have mismatched tires.. but I have both images/icons/grin.gif pirelli super corsa dragon's in the front and bt-56ss's in the rear

the seem to grip well.. but the corsa seems to wear fast...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


That's actualy funny I'm riding on a Pirelli Dragon in the rear, and a Bridgestone bt-ss on front.

just a question but what do the US bikes come with as standard rubber????? in the UK they come with bridgestone bt010's

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GSXR988:
just a question but what do the US bikes come with as standard rubber????? in the UK they come with bridgestone bt010's<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

bridgestone bt010's standard rubber. Better than the 207's.

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all the tire companies seem to be making really good tires now....but...youre making a real good choice with the pirell's...they are awesome images/icons/grin.gif ...the only tires i will run

I'm running the dragon evo's on the street, like them so far, not the best in the rain though.

just bought a pair of pirelli super corsa dragon's. $122 front, $150 rear, from Discount Motorcycle Tire (Denver). i am thinking of getting another set of rims to mount something Dunlop207 like for the daily commute. images/icons/tongue.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jah:
just bought a pair of pirelli super corsa dragon's. $122 front, $150 rear, from Discount Motorcycle Tire (Denver). i am thinking of getting another set of rims to mount something Dunlop207 like for the daily commute. images/icons/tongue.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that is what i want to get let me know how they feel like feedback grip stability etc...

it will be a few days, got the shit kicked out of me last time at the track

Here is an interview I copied from somewhere. This explains a lot, so I saved it:
***********************************************

Note from Steve Brubaker asking for his input with regards to DOT racing tires on the
street. Steve is President of Race Tire Service and is "Da Man"
for Dunlop on the East coast.

“First thing I must mention that I work exclusively with Dunlop product and
can only speak about product that I have first hand knowledge and
experience with.

SAFETY. There is not a safety issue in running DOT racing tires on the
street. By SAFETY, I mean the tire will not have a failure or come apart
from normal aggressive street use. Excluding road hazard. (Falling down
on oil, gravel or excessive throttle is not a tire failure)

DIFFERENCE: The biggest difference in the racing tire and the street tire
is in the construction. Street tires have JLB construction and race tires
have a Cut Breaker or Cut Belt construction.

JLB is when the main tread belt (the ply just underneath the tread rubber)
has all of it plies running in the same direction. All the fibres are in
the same direction, pointing the way the tire rotates.

Cut Breaker construction is when there is 2 belts, both have the plies
running at an angle to the rotation.

Take one hand and hold it in front of you, point your finger to the
ceiling and keep you fingers side by side. This is what direction the
fibres run on a JLB breaker. Now take both hands with the fingers side by
side, lay one set of fingers on top of the other set at a 45 degree
angle. This is what a Cut Breaker looks like. (a picture is worth 1000
words, wish I had a picture to describe it better).

Whether you understanding the direction of the plies or not, the basic
difference in feel and performance is that the JLB construction is very
good for stability over bumps and feedback on odd surfaces. It also give a
much more smooth ride. This is better for a street ride and over the
things that one runs over when riding in street conditions.

The Cut Breaker is better at overall side grip. The basic word here is
SIDE GRIP. Cut Breakers give much more side grip and a bit of a stiffer
ride.

TEMPERATURES: What does tire temperature have to do with performance? Lets
first understand an old falsehood "Race tires won't stick till you warm
them up" this is untrue and is a falsehood. Here are the facts. If you
took a race tire and a street tire and ran them side by side, the race
tire would provide more grip than the street tire in every temperature
range. So if both tires are at 60F the race tire works better. If both at
160F, the race tire still works better. Now will a cold race tire work as
well as a hot street tire? I don't know, it would depend upon the
tires. (But I am sure that someone did this and fell down, then started
the rumor. ) The big difference comes in the cold verses hot
performance. A race tire get much better when hot. A street tire gets a
little bit better when hot.

WARM UP TIME: Dunlops generally come in, in 1 lap (the warm up lap). A
street tire gets a little bit better when hot, but not as much as a race
tire. The harder one rides the quicker and hotter the tire gets. These
are basics datums. The rider has to gain experience with tires and how
they work by riding on them many times. There are not hard numbers to
describe degrees of traction for every increase in temperature. Experience
is the key here.

Why would you use a RACE TIRE for the STREET?
Plus points - More grip.
Minus points - Harsher over bumps, less feedback, cost more, tend to wear
quicker.

Why would you use a STREET TIRE for the STREET?
Plus points - sufficient grip, smooth ride, more stable over bumps, last
longer, cost less
Minus points - Don't look as cool as my friend with race tires.

If you are riding on the street and really need a race tire, you should
not be riding on the street.
Street tires give very good grip, enough to have a very fun time in the
canyons. A street tire on the track will run about 1.5 seconds slower than
a race tire. Compared to 15 seconds slower for the average street rider
that goes to the track, it is easy to see that experience and practice
makes a much bigger difference than just tire choice.

Ride and have fun.”

--
Steve Brubaker, President, Race Tire Service Inc.
Dunlop Motorcycle Roadrace Tire Distributor Eastern US
Order 800-772-TIRE, Tech Info 615-641-2234, Fax 615-641-8959
mailto:stevebru@dunlopracing.com, http://www.dunlopracing.com

that was a great read thanks man. images/icons/grin.gif

Bmfgsxr,
If you are an aggressive backroad rider(sounds like it from what I read on the board), w/out question get the Pirelli Super Corsa or Metzler Rensports!
Traction is fantastic on the street, they come up to working temp VERY fast, and steer completely nuetral. They also slide VERY predictably. I am running them on the street and track and am more than happy w/ them.

A while back I posted that the peg feelers on my 2001GSXR600 are touching @ about the same time the Pirrellis start sliding predictably on the street. After installing .95 fork springs, 45mm spacers, 10wt Silkolene fork-oil, and tightening the preload in the front and rear quite a bit (bike is stifff!), I am not touching any metal or fairings on the street B4 they slide. On the track, you will be grinding hard parts B4 they let go.

As far as longevity, I am very hard on my street tires (slide front and rears regularily). I mostly ride on the backroads, but sometimes drive the bike to work etc. I NEVER do burnouts on them. I get at least 2 months of berzerk weekend backroad riding (150-250 miles each day sat&sun) B4 I notice them starting to go off a little, and even then they are still predictable, just not as much invincable-grip as when new, U can still drag your knee and all that good stuff, they are just that good when you first put them on. I can't imagine anyone not loving these tires for the track or street after trying them. I am running 30/30psi on the street w/ them.

I believe I have a lot of street riding experience w/ these tires, so if you have any specific Qs about them, I would be happy to try to answer them.
-E-

[ 06-26-2001: Message edited by: Speedballer347 ]

speedballer- thanks man. sounds like you do have the knowledge about them. i am going to get them in a couple of weeks.thanks images/icons/grin.gif

I've been told that they're some of the best tyres around, if they weren't so damn expensive then I'd have a set of my own!

they are not that expensive. check out any tire warehouse site images/icons/grin.gif