Ive always wondered when it would be handy

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 01Gix600IndianaS4:
Ive always wondered when it would be handy

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Obviously, you don't use it to switch off your bike when you park.

But it also comes in handy when the throttle sticks and won't unstick. Just pull in the clutch, kill the motor and coast to a safe spot.

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You can also use someone elses when you are riding along side of them on the Interstate!LOL http://www.gixxerforum.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif

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Well I heard once that you shouldn't use it tun the bike off every time. Not sure why but I heard it when I got my first bike and it just kinda stuck with me so I usually use the key. Although the interstate is a fun time to use someone elses. Also at traffic lights right before it turns green. another great time to use your neighbors.

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i've also heard that it isn't a good idea to use the kill switch to turn off the bike, but with no explanation to back that up. so the way i see it, it's just one of those myths.

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4 years ago, when I took an MSF course, they told us everytime to use the kill switch.

mind you, the bikes were '82 250 Rebels.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by flyboy:
4 years ago, when I took an MSF course, they told us everytime to use the kill switch.

mind you, the bikes were '82 250 Rebels.<hr></blockquote>

Easy on the Rebels Flyboy!!!! hehe
They said the same to me

jontflesh

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There shouldn't be any problems associated w/ shutting the bike down w/ the kill switch. It does the same thing as the key, but only cuts power to the ignition.

I think Jeff was right about it being a myth or some sorts.

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Kill switch is REALLY nice when you are in the process of crashing the shit out of your bike. Having the motor shut off just before or as soon as possible after the throttle jams wide open when hitting the dirt is much more pleasant than the sound of a screaming two stroke (that is on top of you) still trying to run away. You do not want to have the little chainsaw-in-training chewing on your body parts and who the hell knows what kind of fucked up position you are winding up in. Compare turning a key with flicking the switch.

Or, with your precious road bike just about to fling you down the road (switch the blame, it helps) its good to give it a parting 'shutup' by hitting the switch. Stopping to turn the key requires your eyes, which are no doubt very much taken up with the vista.

Please do not ask where I learned this shit. The memories! http://www.gixxerforum.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif

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I had a go on my buddy's Honda MTX125 pretend trail bike thing. Revved it, popped a huge wheelie (vertical), panicked, went for the kill switch...and he'd bloody removed it. Cue face full of gas tank. And a good kicking from Daz.

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Dont always expect that killswitch to be an easy flick, you may find yourself holding on for your life or in the middle of a last ditch save your ass effort and not be able to hit it. It happened to me and I couldnt get to it during a stuck throttle due to lack of that luxury timewise. I always use it to turn off the bike though. Thats what MSF teaches you and I think mostly so that your body is trained to use it to kill the engine already so that if you do have an emergency its not difficult to go for. Youve already done it a bunch of times.

bah beware of the stuck throttle it can kill you in the wrong place.

yeah I pretty much use the kill everytime I stop.... its so much easier to flick your thumb than to lift your hand off the throttle (and front brake, mind you). more safer I think.

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I too learned in the MSF course to always use the kill switch so I've figured that it was the best way to kill the engine. Plus, I think it's easier.

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I hear the only reason for not using the kill switch is that it can wear out over time. But on the other side of the coin it's good to use when you park your bike if someone tries to steal it. Thieves might miss that one little detail if they try to hotwire it.

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I've got a great example of when to use the kill switch:
Situation: I was giving my good buddy a quick crash course on how to ride a bike(on my CBR 600). I trusted him since he races go-carts, drives stick shift and generally has a good mind for vehicles(bad move, never assume).
We began with a simple drill of rocking the bike back and forth by playing with the clutch and throttle. Well, he rolled it a little too far and decided to put his foot down while still in motion.
Sequence of next 5 seconds:
a)buddy grabs clutch in and bike starts tipping
b)hops off bike to prevent from tipping
b.5)Buddy reefs on handlebars(throttle) for leverage.
c)Jason begins shitting in his pants
d)Needle visits rev limiter
e)Jason hits the KILLSWITCH and then finishes shitting his pants

Things could have gotten really airborn if he had let the clutch out.... I count my blessing from the outcome of that incident. I also try not to be that ridiculously stupid anymore. Hopefully no one would have to use the killswitch for same reason as I did in that example.

Live N Learn
Jason Sew


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SuperFong:
I hear the only reason for not using the kill switch is that it can wear out over time. But on the other side of the coin it's good to use when you park your bike if someone tries to steal it. Thieves might miss that one little detail if they try to hotwire it.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You dont know how many times Ive watched my roomate not be able to start his bike (because he forgets to turn on the kill switch) He himself would be a terrible thief... hehe

+1 to bcjohn

I too learned in the MSF course to always use the kill switch so I've figured that it was the best way to kill the engine. Plus, I think it's easier.

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of course!

can't remember a time i turned it off [purposely] w/o using the kill switch! why wouldn't this be everyone's default habit? :scratch it's easier, faster and a good habit for your thumb when you need it off in a hurry.

Obviously, you don't use it to switch off your bike when you park.
why, because you will have to switch it back on again to start it??:wtf :scratch

if you ever park on a hill, you'll want to leave it in gear. to not use the kill switch, you have to hold in the clutch and let go of the right grip. now you have to use the rear brake because you can't use the front brake to hold you in place.

so there you are, left hand on the grip with the clutch in and left foot only on the ground. all so that you can reach for the key! :wtf

a lot more stable to use the kill switch and the front brake with both feet on the ground and both hands on the grips.

i never actually thought about any of this because it seems such an obviously good habit to kill with the switch.

i wonder about some of you folks...:eek

they told us in the MSF course to use the kill switch. after i took that class, i use it 100% of the time to shut my bike off

My MSF course also taught us to use the kill switch.

I bought a Ninja 650R as a first bike and just sold it for an '07 gixxer 600... but with the Ninja there was a clear difference between using the key and the kill switch, with the keys it felt like I just shut off my engine... with the kill switch it felt very abrupt. The dealer also told me not to use the kill switch to shut off the bike!!

Maybe its just Kawi :scratch

I'm counting the hours until I get my gixxer

I usually just use the key. Putting the kickstand down while the bike is in gear and the clutch is held is another one I've used when I'm feeling really lazy.

My dealer told me Not to use the kill switch all the time, due to the sensitive electronics of the machine. It is said to cause an electrical build up. That can over time damage ECU's (Electronic Control Unit) and CDI's (Computer Driven Ignition) But anybody who wants to try it. Just crank your bike up and kill it over and over again witht kill switch. and let us know if anyting what happend.

if you ever park on a hill, you'll want to leave it in gear. to not use the kill switch, you have to hold in the clutch and let go of the right grip. now you have to use the rear brake because you can't use the front brake to hold you in place.

so there you are, left hand on the grip with the clutch in and left foot only on the ground. all so that you can reach for the key! :wtf



I'm 5'4, one foot is ALL I ever get on the ground!!

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Ive always learned in my motorcycle class that if your about to turn the bike off you shut the bike off by the kill switch then the ignition. Think about it. In an emergency the kill switch (which is right by the throttle) is the closest thing to cut power to bike.

wow 6 years and this is still being discussed is that a record

god damn.... old old old ... and no more throttle stick yay for fi

Dont always expect that killswitch to be an easy flick, you may find yourself holding on for your life or in the middle of a last ditch save your ass effort and not be able to hit it. It happened to me and I couldnt get to it during a stuck throttle due to lack of that luxury timewise. I always use it to turn off the bike though. Thats what MSF teaches you and I think mostly so that your body is trained to use it to kill the engine already so that if you do have an emergency its not difficult to go for. Youve already done it a bunch of times.

bah beware of the stuck throttle it can kill you in the wrong place.


muscle memory.
enough said
i use it and im a newb.

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The reason u should always use the key instead of the switch is because the key kills power to evrything... the switch kills power to the ignition but your headlight is still on and for new riders this can often result in standing around with the buddies while your battery drains, then getting on a bike that wont start. This happened to me all the time until I just started using the key only.

ALWAYS use the engine cut off switch! When you do it all the time, it becomes natural to do, and when sh*t hits the fan, you don't think or fumble, you just do it ( yes, it has happened to me--more than once). And no, it does not in any way harm your electrics (unless you wear out the switch, just like you could wear out any other switch on your bike, or forget to turn off the key and drain the battery---squid!). Any dealer that says otherwise must be selling a piss poor product. BTW, I am new to this site, but not to biking, with 44 years to my credit and with a nearly new 750K6. I'm also one of those MSF instructors that tell you to do this, so DO IT, dammit.:hammer

Kill switch is REALLY nice when you are in the process of crashing the shit out of your bike. Having the motor shut off just before or as soon as possible after the throttle jams wide open when hitting the dirt is much more pleasant than the sound of a screaming two stroke (that is on top of you) still trying to run away. You do not want to have the little chainsaw-in-training chewing on your body parts and who the hell knows what kind of fucked up position you are winding up in. Compare turning a key with flicking the switch.

Or, with your precious road bike just about to fling you down the road (switch the blame, it helps) its good to give it a parting 'shutup' by hitting the switch. Stopping to turn the key requires your eyes, which are no doubt very much taken up with the vista.

Please do not ask where I learned this shit. The memories! http://www.gixxerforum.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif

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ahahahahahahaha
:lol :lol

I usually just use the key. Putting the kickstand down while the bike is in gear and the clutch is held is another one I've used when I'm feeling really lazy.

+1 on that, definitely been using that method alot :)

also i always use the kill switch, but that's because that and the footstand is my only options, i dont have a key to the bike :D

I am one of those guys that took the MSF course and was told to hit the switch and press the brake lever and make double sure the kick stand was firmly planted on the ground before demounting the bike.

I guess it all breaks down to getting you to form good riding habits. If you do it several times you will never forget!!

It is sad to see a guy or gal get of his/her bike and have to just turn around and hear a thump on the ground only to see that is their bike lying there because the kickstand was not firmly engaged or whatever you'd like to call it. I was one of those guys, sad to say:mad--but I learned!!!:punk

Just my two cents.

xom78

Yes, I always use my Kill switch as well. I even used it to shut my engine off while waiting for lights to change while I was breaking in my engine. Cause it will get too hot if it idles for too long. A hot engine that isn't broken in is a bad thing. Well a engine that is too hot is also a bad thing in general.

do I smell rotting flesh... no... maybe that's the scent up newly upturned dirt... no... not that... it's the stench of "HOLY OLD THREAD BATMAN!"

there are no real big difference on using either the kill switch or just simply turning ur ignition off through ur key; its mostly preference...the myth is said to be that if you use the kill switch to turn off your bike every time you park, the kill switch can be damaged. Dealers will tell you that when you first purchase a bike.. I keep my on at all times, its my preference and I would use it if I had to like trixta6 said "when the throttle sticks and won't unstick".

i use my kill switch EVERYTIME i park up....had this bike from new nearly 5 yrs 57k miles....kill switch is fine!!

When you should use the kill switch:






Whenever you can get close enough to the buddy you're riding with to hit his.

It may be an old thread, but glad it's sticky. Just did BikeSafe and wondered why the cop always used the kill switch. Been back to biking for three years, but twenty years ago there were some bikes where kill switch was emergency only - something like shorting the magneto - and old habits die hard. Cleared up now, I'll get practising...

My dealer told me Not to use the kill switch all the time, due to the sensitive electronics of the machine. It is said to cause an electrical build up. That can over time damage ECU's (Electronic Control Unit) and CDI's (Computer Driven Ignition) But anybody who wants to try it. Just crank your bike up and kill it over and over again witht kill switch. and let us know if anyting what happend.

Dude, don't try to make up your own acronyms to sound cool lmao, CDI stands for Capacitive Discharge Ignition.


Oh, and your dealer sounds like a twat. A phrase comes to mind, when you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. You got the latter of the two.

When you should use the kill switch:






Whenever you can get close enough to the buddy you're riding with to hit his.


LMFAO, I always hated that shit. My friend scott used to tag mine at random when I wasn't even paying attention to his ass.

with my morning coffee, i just opened richard maybury's monthly economic report. his focus this month appears to be on dumbasses:

"after a 50 years of studying history the conclusion i've come to is that this planet is a intergalactic space alien's high school science project to demonstrate that intelligent life can arise here. but the project is a flop! when the bush administration leaves DC in january, the average IQ will rise. whichever candidate replaces them, the gain will be wiped out. the only thing obama brings is charisma. the only positive thing mccain brings is that he isn't obama":crying

now stay tuned here, this is really fuggin simple!

you use the kill switch when you need to turn off the engine but cannot take a hand off the handlebars to reach the key!

you decide when that might be. :dunno

stop going to stealerships who feed you garbage about not using a fuggin switch!

The reason u should always use the key instead of the switch is because the key kills power to evrything... the switch kills power to the ignition but your headlight is still on and for new riders this can often result in standing around with the buddies while your battery drains, then getting on a bike that wont start. This happened to me all the time until I just started using the key only.

Use the kill switch! and if you leave the light on, you're a squid... *kill switch... key, kill switch... key* If the stand is down, the key is off! (unless your worling and need it on of course...)

Use the kill switch! and if you leave the light on, you're a squid... *kill switch... key, kill switch... key* If the stand is down, the key is off! (unless your worling and need it on of course...)

big words for a guy with less than a month riding experience...


Just to prove you wrong, I never use the kill switch on my bike, nor did I use it on any of my previous bikes. Nothing bad has ever/ever will happen because of it. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to realize how the electrical systems on engines work... not using the kill switch will cause NO harm... using the kill switch will cause NO harm... just personal preference.

Obviously if you need to kill the engine without taking your hands off the bars, the kill switch is a much better option than the key...

i use the kill switch because the lights will stay on but the motor shuts off. this may come in handy at night if you ever get pulled over, or for any other reason that requires you to be visible.

I love threads like this.

My question is how come other vehicles don't have a kill switch? If they are needed on bikes why not cars?

Also my mrs could do with one for those times when she needs to be switched off in an emergency ;-)

Just to prove you wrong, I never use the kill switch on my bike, nor did I use it on any of my previous bikes. Nothing bad has ever/ever will happen because of it. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to realize how the electrical systems on engines work... not using the kill switch will cause NO harm... using the kill switch will cause NO harm... just personal preference.

Obviously if you need to kill the engine without taking your hands off the bars, the kill switch is a much better option than the key...

Thank you....
I'm not going to sit here and say that I know everything or even a lot about bikes. I just got mine 2 weeks ago and before that I hadn't ridden in like 2 years but while reading this forum that's exactly what I kept thinking. Do it however you want to. Whatever feels the most natural to YOU the rider not the guy riding next to you. (unless you want to do it to him....LOL haven't done that before)

It might have been mentioned before, but MSF course teach to use the kill switch every single time no matter the bike. It get you used to it(muscle memory) and when you really need it, you'll know exactly where its at, as opposed to being acquainted with it for the first time.

Use the kill switch! and if you leave the light on, you're a squid... *kill switch... key, kill switch... key* If the stand is down, the key is off! (unless your worling and need it on of course...)

or you could do the normal thing and skip the WHOLE part about hitting the switch and THEN turning the key, by just simply turning the key :dunno?

On my ski doo its a must, but my '88 "7-11" got used once when the valve cover bolt backed out and was blowing oil all over the left side of me and the bike. I though I was on fire and hit the kill switch and came to abrupt halt and jumped off the thing. Guy in the house I was in front of, came out with a fire extenguisher, but it was only smoke.

I use the kill switch whenever I have my tank bag on, it's just easier to access making it more convenient.

4 years ago, when I took an MSF course, they told us everytime to use the kill switch.

mind you, the bikes were '82 250 Rebels.

Ditto! haha

never use the switch, because whenever I turn the bike off I lock it.
But I tried it one time, then the next day I didn't know why it wouldn't turn on :P

It might have been mentioned before, but MSF course teach to use the kill switch every single time no matter the bike. It get you used to it(muscle memory) and when you really need it, you'll know exactly where its at, as opposed to being acquainted with it for the first time.

The MSF course also teaches you to stand the bike up and hit the brakes if you enter a corner too fast on the street. :rolleyes I use the key. It doesn't fucking matter. These newer bikes have tip over sensors if you crash anyway.

The MSF course also teaches you to stand the bike up and hit the brakes if you enter a corner too fast on the street. :rolleyes I use the key. It doesn't fucking matter. These newer bikes have tip over sensors if you crash anyway.

:nonoyou dont want to crash:hammer right i used the kill switch on my 85 when hard on gas let off and bike kept making power limped home tore apart carbs and found needle lost its c clip and slide on number 2 cylinder was hanging open scary shit:scared

Don't think I've ever seen a thread go for 8 years, especially one on such a simple subject.:lmao

Oh and since I stuck my nose I'll say I key it everytime. Been doing it for 16 years, even though when I taught the MSF I stressed using the switch.

[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You dont know how many times Ive watched my roomate not be able to start his bike (because he forgets to turn on the kill switch) He himself would be a terrible thief... hehe[/QUOTE]

:lmao Same thing used to happen to me when I had my first Gixxer. Did it once in front of some really hot girl who liked my bike, and she says, "Try this first." *flips kill switch* Need I say that I wanted to die right then and there? :suicide

holy thread revival, and i believe the only time your supposed to use the killswitch is when you can reach a friends

I use the kill switch every single time i dismount the bike and upon getting on i fire it up. I actualyl do this for my own selfish reasons. I hope that one day someone tries to take my bike and i catch them in the knick of tme and they're panicing becuase it wont turn on and theyre not even thinking of the kill switch being disengaged and i beat them within a quarter inch of thier life and then steal thier wallet and mail him a sweet note (got the adress from his license) that says, i'm sorry but next time go through the proper steps of starting a motorcycle. Just to add insult to injury.

:scratchput some thought into this huh...

the only time your supposed to use the killswitch is when you can reach a friends

+1 :]

On carbed bikes whike cruisin u can use the kill switch and let it coast a bit and when u switch that sucker back on........."BOOOOOOM!" and out goes the flame from ur exhaust.
As soon as fuel injection came through u cant do it anymore.
Good times