What's the purpose of a short sleeve jacket???:scratch

http://rideicon.com/product_details.jsp?category=3428&id=13466

Maybe an upgrade from their plastic vest and white beefy Tshirt combo?

I guess you just fold the arms in when you crash?:dunno

Looks that is all. Most motorcycle gear is for style and not for any real protection

What's the purpose of a short sleeve jacket???:scratch

http://rideicon.com/product_details.jsp?category=3428&id=13466

:lmao

Maybe an upgrade from their plastic vest and white beefy Tshirt combo?

hm... good point.

Gun show brah.... gun show.

Looks that is all. Most motorcycle gear is for style and not for any real protection

and the hits just keep on rolling for you, don't they? :dissapointed

"most" motorcycle gear? jesus christ, you really should just NOT talk. "most" motorcycle gear, is, in fact, created and produced for the sole purpose of protecting the rider. some of it does a better job than others....but PROTECTION IS THE MAIN GOAL OF A VAST MAJORITY OF GEAR.

that particular "jacket" is aimed at a very specific demographic. read: rough ryders and cruiser guys.

at least they're not marketing it as safe.

and the hits just keep on rolling for you, don't they? :dissapointed

"most" motorcycle gear? jesus christ, you really should just NOT talk. "most" motorcycle gear, is, in fact, created and produced for the sole purpose of protecting the rider. some of it does a better job than others....but PROTECTION IS THE MAIN GOAL OF A VAST MAJORITY OF GEAR.

that particular "jacket" is aimed at a very specific demographic. read: rough ryders and cruiser guys.

at least they're not marketing it as safe.

I think he was being sarcastic GV. Atleast for the sake of the gene pool.....I hope so.

and the hits just keep on rolling for you, don't they? :dissapointed

"most" motorcycle gear? jesus christ, you really should just NOT talk. "most" motorcycle gear, is, in fact, created and produced for the sole purpose of protecting the rider. some of it does a better job than others....but PROTECTION IS THE MAIN GOAL OF A VAST MAJORITY OF GEAR.

that particular "jacket" is aimed at a very specific demographic. read: rough ryders and cruiser guys.

at least they're not marketing it as safe.

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When I first started riding, I bought a mesh jacket. (hot down here, and was broke)

On the inside of the jacket is a warning label that says something along the lines of "Not Made For Protection Purposes" or something like that. Everyone ( with common sense ) knows that once you hit the ground with a mesh jacket, it's going to be ripped to shreds and fall apart, rendering any protection worthless. The only thing a mesh jacket can do is soften the initial impact, but once that happens it's gone.

Now, of course, I ride in full leathers every day. They are perforated and I have Cold Killers gear for the cold weather that I wear underneath.

:cheers

I think he was being sarcastic GV. Atleast for the sake of the gene pool.....I hope so.

i think he wasn't. go look at some of his previous posts :dissapointed

When I first started riding, I bought a mesh jacket. (hot down here, and was broke)

On the inside of the jacket is a warning label that says something along the lines of "Not Made For Protection Purposes" or something like that. Everyone ( with common sense ) knows that once you hit the ground with a mesh jacket, it's going to be ripped to shreds and fall apart, rendering any protection worthless. The only thing a mesh jacket can do is soften the initial impact, but once that happens it's gone.

Now, of course, I ride in full leathers every day. They are perforated and I have Cold Killers gear for the cold weather that I wear underneath.

:cheers

mesh jackets are still designed to protect you. did it have armor in it? then it's designed for protection. again, it's a one time deal. i've had my ass saved by a mesh jacket before. but yeah, it's done after that first down.

they, again, put htat warning in there b/c of sue-happy americans that are looking for any way to get a quick buck.

wore your mesh jacket for 4 crashes and all of the sudden got road rash? let's sue the company that makes the jacket! :dissapointed

mesh jackets are still designed to protect you. did it have armor in it? then it's designed for protection. again, it's a one time deal. i've had my ass saved by a mesh jacket before. but yeah, it's done after that first down.

they, again, put htat warning in there b/c of sue-happy americans that are looking for any way to get a quick buck.

wore your mesh jacket for 4 crashes and all of the sudden got road rash? let's sue the company that makes the jacket! :dissapointed

Yeah, I know. Hence me noting the impact protection. :cheers

Per the product description:
"A short sleeved jacket may sound at first like a bit of an oxymoron. We can assure you that it is neither. The Shorty Jacket is every bit a riding garment. From it's internal D3O CE approved back protector to it's top-grain drum dyed Brazilian leather, the Shorty always maintains a tactical advantage. And then there's the fit. We know the Shorty customer is as likely to be astride a 1000cc superbike as he is to ride a hard-tailed twin. We took these seemingly disparate lifestyles into account when designing the Shorty. Our goal was to develop a pattern that worked equally well for either platform. Whether reaching for 9 degree clip-ons or 12" apes, the strategically engineered mechanical stretch panels work with the rider allowing complete freedom of movement. And in the end, that?s what this jacket is all about - Freedom. Freedom from boundaries of conventional society. Freedom from the nagging of tyrannical women. Freedom from the oppression of sleeves. Whatever your pleasure, whatever your steed, the Shorty will provide."

"Freedom from the nagging of tyrannical women" :scratch I lol'd

Also, MSRP $400-$450 :ohmy

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It's all about freedom baby!!!! :lol

It's all about freedom baby!!!! :lol


The open road!.....WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!




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Looks that is all. Most motorcycle gear is for style and not for any real protection

Is it ironic that this statement comes from a guy with a liter bike? :shifty

Is it ironic that this statement comes from a guy with a liter bike? :shifty

yea who gives a shit... i ride with gear on all the time. Why are you being a troll.

and the hits just keep on rolling for you, don't they? :dissapointed

"most" motorcycle gear? jesus christ, you really should just NOT talk. "most" motorcycle gear, is, in fact, created and produced for the sole purpose of protecting the rider. some of it does a better job than others....but PROTECTION IS THE MAIN GOAL OF A VAST MAJORITY OF GEAR.

that particular "jacket" is aimed at a very specific demographic. read: rough ryders and cruiser guys.

at least they're not marketing it as safe.

what is it with you and all douchbags on this forum. always something negative to say. I guess you didnt read my post correctly. There is good quality gear out there that protects you really good and all the other gear that just appears to look good but isnt worth the money to buy.
I dont know where you got the idea I dont promote wearing gear or I dont.

yea who gives a shit... i ride with gear on all the time. Why are you being a troll.

That's my job.

Looks that is all. Most motorcycle gear is for style and not for any real protection

I dont know where you got the idea I dont promote wearing gear or I dont.

:scratch

That's my job.





:scratch

you must be lonely

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LOL at this entire thread(mostly the squid vest and the dork saying gear is for looks):lmao

you must be lonely

How can I be lonely with you in my life?

Some of icon gear are for stunters who may wear elbow, forearm protectors. Much like dirt bike protectors.

That thing would be perfect for their use.

Icon stuff for the street is pretty good for what it is designed for.

I would think the racer stuff that they do have, does its job as well.

yea who gives a shit... i ride with gear on all the time.

For decoration right?


Why are you being a troll.


fuckin' 12's

Who cares. It will sell because people that ride their bikes in circles on the back wheel will think it's cool and call it their "gear". The riders that give half a shit about staying safe won't be looking at Icon to start with.

what is it with you and all douchbags on this forum. always something negative to say. I guess you didnt read my post correctly. There is good quality gear out there that protects you really good and all the other gear that just appears to look good but isnt worth the money to buy.
I dont know where you got the idea I dont promote wearing gear or I dont.

Bc all of us "douchebags" have a reading comprehension above a second grade level. Clearly you don't. Even when it's something YOU wrote.

Don't like it? Try www.gsxr.com. They are more tender and caring over there.

I can show you the door if you'd like.

The brand name says it all.

As long as it has a 360 zipper its still track approved right? I don't think I seen anything about no sleeves on the track.. Granted you still need gauntlet gloves.

I remember seeing rules somewhere about no skin being exposed.

I think it would be good to show off a GINNER tattoo. and if you fall.... free tattoo removal

I think it would be good to show off a GINNER tattoo. and if you fall.... free tattoo removal

GiNNer fo life, yo. :punk

I remember seeing rules somewhere about no skin being exposed.

Crap.. I already ordered the jacket. :sad Maybe I can wear long sleeved underarmor with it. :dunno

The brand name says it all.

Real quick, I read this kind of statement non stop on the forum. I'm new to riding but trying to learn and do the best I can. I bought icon gear before I found a bike and before joining this site thinking I was being smart, the reviews seemed ok and I got the textile Contra with armor + alliance helmet. But after spending so much time on here and reading the general disgust with the brand... Is it so bad that I should just trash the stuff? I mean I've put <3000 miles in the ~7 weeks I've had the bike. I'm about to be 21 with a budget but a potential "promotion?" at work so maybe have more to play with, but until then isn't something better than nothing?

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Real quick, I read this kind of statement non stop on the forum. I'm new to riding but trying to learn and do the best I can. I bought icon gear before I found a bike and before joining this site thinking I was being smart, the reviews seemed ok and I got the textile Contra with armor + alliance helmet. But after spending so much time on here and reading the general disgust with the brand... Is it so bad that I should just trash the stuff? I mean I've put <3000 miles in the ~7 weeks I've had the bike. I'm about to be 21 with a budget but a potential "promotion?" at work so maybe have more to play with, but until then isn't something better than nothing?

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Sure. You could rap toilet paper around your entire torso and paint it with pretty fabulous tassels and designs. It too, would be better than nothing. I suppose.

"most" motorcycle gear, is, in fact, created and produced for the sole purpose of protecting the rider. some of it does a better job than others....but PROTECTION IS THE MAIN GOAL OF A VAST MAJORITY OF GEAR.


i challenge for a source on this. i suspect the main purpose of gear for some companies is to make money, and i think you misinterpreted the statement of tribulation's initial post. go into a cruiser dealer and have a look on the gear racks. beetle helmets and leather vests abound.

Sure. You could rap toilet paper around your entire torso and paint it with pretty fabulous tassels and designs. It too, would be better than nothing. I suppose.

Out of curiosity, have you ever seen an Icon jacket crash tested. I agree that they are by no means high end gear, or even close to comparable to top end gear, but you make it sound like their jackets will disintegrate as soon as they hit that pavement. Undoubtedly they will offer fairly decent protection against road rash.

For the record, I do not, nor have I ever owned Icon gear. I just feel many people jump on the bandwagon and blow their poor quality(or lack of excellent quality) out of proportion

Its like when their helmets meet DOT and Snell standards and people claim they offer no protection. Obviously they offer some amount or they wouldnt have gained those marks:wacko Just cuz they arent high end doesnt mean they are incapable of doing their job to a certain degree

Sure. You could rap toilet paper around your entire torso and paint it with pretty fabulous tassels and designs. It too, would be better than nothing. I suppose.

Thanks.... How bout this, send me a PM with a COMPLETE ideal gear set up you would suggest. The only things I ask you keep in mind is

1. I ride daily, literally haven't put gas in my car since March 18th

2. I live in west Texas, today was 103F and its April. So its only getting hotter.

That's all. What do you say?

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Thanks.... How bout this, send me a PM with a COMPLETE ideal gear set up you would suggest. The only things I ask you keep in mind is

1. I ride daily, literally haven't put gas in my car since March 18th

2. I live in west Texas, today was 103F and its April. So its only getting hotter.

That's all. What do you say?

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What does your riding style and the temperature where you live have to do with your safety? I'm sure that ICON vest will protect you plenty when you're sliding down the pavement on your bare arm.

:rolleyes

(yes, I read your previous statements in case you're missing the sarcasm)

:rolleyes

(yes, I read your previous statements in case you're missing the sarcasm)

*whew* glad you put that side note in there... I'm not always the best when it comes to catching it. Made an ass of myself in my very first day thanks to Minibull.... Eventually OldFart came in to save me because he didn't catch it either

:thumbup

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Out of curiosity, have you ever seen an Icon jacket crash tested. I agree that they are by no means high end gear, or even close to comparable to top end gear, but you make it sound like their jackets will disintegrate as soon as they hit that pavement. Undoubtedly they will offer fairly decent protection against road rash.

For the record, I do not, nor have I ever owned Icon gear. I just feel many people jump on the bandwagon and blow their poor quality(or lack of excellent quality) out of proportion

Its like when their helmets meet DOT and Snell standards and people claim they offer no protection. Obviously they offer some amount or they wouldnt have gained those marks:wacko Just cuz they arent high end doesnt mean they are incapable of doing their job to a certain degree

I never once said anything remotely close about their quality of protection. Even though, I ll say it now. I will not trust any gear manufacturer's quality, that emphasises so much on esthetic trendy appearance first. I could careless how many people talk shit on IIcon. I don't base my opinions on what others think. I do know for a fact that their gear is not up to par with what else is offered. Sure, it's better than nothing and does it's job putting around on the streets. But, you won't see any track riders wearing it. And this is for good reason.

i challenge for a source on this. i suspect the main purpose of gear for some companies is to make money, and i think you misinterpreted the statement of tribulation's initial post. go into a cruiser dealer and have a look on the gear racks. beetle helmets and leather vests abound.

Exactly. That's a similar market Iicon chooses to target. To make money. For that reason I won't wear it. And if I'm wrong. Why do you not see any Iicon gear at any race level ? Because their gear is so great or people bash their product so much for no legitimate reason ?

It's for when your wifebeater isn't warm enough.

:stupid:stupid:stupid

Early Icon stuff was truly for looks, but now the company has grown and changed.

Their new street gear are good practical stuff for everyday use. Nobody said you should wear them for racing illegally.

Yes, some of their stuff is loud and I think that is why a lot of people hate on the brand. If the company would stop with the teenager designs, it would help people take them more seriously.


Some of icon helmets pass worldwide safety tests too.

Out of curiosity, have you ever seen an Icon jacket crash tested. I agree that they are by no means high end gear, or even close to comparable to top end gear, but you make it sound like their jackets will disintegrate as soon as they hit that pavement. Undoubtedly they will offer fairly decent protection against road rash.

For the record, I do not, nor have I ever owned Icon gear. I just feel many people jump on the bandwagon and blow their poor quality(or lack of excellent quality) out of proportion

Its like when their helmets meet DOT and Snell standards and people claim they offer no protection. Obviously they offer some amount or they wouldnt have gained those marks:wacko Just cuz they arent high end doesnt mean they are incapable of doing their job to a certain degree

Why do you not see any Iicon gear at any race level ? Because their gear is so great or people bash their product so much for no legitimate reason ?

If Icon sold these to me, I am sure they will work just fine.

i challenge for a source on this. i suspect the main purpose of gear for some companies is to make money, and i think you misinterpreted the statement of tribulation's initial post. go into a cruiser dealer and have a look on the gear racks. beetle helmets and leather vests abound.

the main purpose of ANY company is to make money. i'd be willing to bet that a company that produces gear has the safety of motorcycle riders in mind, and that's the aim of their product, more so than oh, let's say Laffy Taffy. you can argue that ANY company's main goal is to make money. but the point of the GEAR is to protect the rider.

chaps, leather, etc still provide some protection. better than nothing. agreed a LOT of the gear aimed towards the cruiser crowd is focused more on image than protection. i saw it a lot when i worked at the motorcycle shop (worked accessories for a while). i still stand by my statement MOST gear is aimed at protection. not all of it does the most thorough job (chaps, jackets without armor, shell helmets) but the main point is still to provide some level of protection over bare skin.

Exactly. That's a similar market Iicon chooses to target. To make money. For that reason I won't wear it. And if I'm wrong. Why do you not see any Iicon gear at any race level ? Because their gear is so great or people bash their product so much for no legitimate reason ?

bc they're a small company that doesn't have the money to pour into rider support. AND their target market is very different. i think it was a smart business plan. they were the pioneers in marketing to a crowd that exists (whether we like it or not) and they cashed in on that.


here's what i have to say about icon: their product line is kind of all over the place as far as quality goes. they have good quality leather jackets. thick leather, sturdy stitching and zippers etc. i would absolutely trust their leather products.

their textile jackets are pretty damn good. again, for textile, you get good coverage, good stitching, pretty sturdy zippers.

their mesh is absolute shit. i wouldn't put it on my worst enemy. i'd say the same for their helmets. i've seen the chin bars break on icon helmets more often than i'd care to recall.

that's not to say the quality hasn't improved recently. i don't know b/c i'm not at the shop any more.

that's just my personal experience with them

This thread is tiresome