Remember everyone, this is just for fun so lets try and keep it clean.......I was just wanting everyones opinion on the R1......How does it match up to the Gixxer1000......I've seen them(R1) around and i must say that they can freakin get up and ROLL.....Now most of us will be biased because we are Gixxer1000 owners but lets put the love for our bikes aside and hear real opinions on this..... If anyone has street stories, feel free to tell them.....OK people...LETS GET IT ON <font color="orange"> </font> <font color="red"> </font>

Well, I just bought my GSXR, and honestly picked it over the R1 as a better bike.
Just last week, I was riding a brandnew R1 and a brand new GSXR trying to make the decision. Both were '03 models though. The GSXR is the same, but the new R1 is different. But as for the earlier ones, '03 for example, it was more comfortable than the GSXR, but lacked everywhere else. That's why I chosse the GSXR.

Well I want be biased. I simple buy which ever bike is the fastest at the time I'm looking as long as it fits me well. If it doesn't fit me then I start looking at the other bikes that are lined up with it. But really the new R1 to me looks sweet. Especially the Red one. The blue one would look better with the stickers taken off the bike. I did set on one the other day that was fueled up and ready to go at my local Suzuki/Yamaha dealer. It felt real nice. The weight felt a tad heavier then my 02 with gas in it. The thing about the R1 to me was the front end seems to disapear. I don't imagine the wind protection is as good as mine and it has no storage like the gixxers. I really like the trunk on my bike. There was also a brand new R1 that got dynoed at the shop. It put out 151hp. Pretty good I'd say,but sounds like it's on par with the gixxer now. Can't wait to see what the 2005 gixxers will be like. Also wondering if they'll be upping the HP on the Busa to. They should be able to get at least 200hp from that 1300cc if the 1000 of nowadays are getting 180hp.
Anyway that's what I think based on what I've seen so far.

Just remember it's the rider that makes the bike the fastest!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I have 2 friends that got the 04 R1. Both of them had gixxers. The R1 is by far a better looking bike than the gixxer. I don't like the blue one but the gray and the red one are really nice. I rode both bikes and both, the R1 and gixxer, are really good bikes. You can go either way and you wont loose. The difference is made by the rider.
By the way, the Kawi also looks nice but the colors suck and the Honda looks like shit.
Personally I still like my gixxer 1000 04 better because of the ergonomics. I feel more comfortable on the gixxer.
I can't wait to see what Suzuki comes up with for 05 !! And if I like it better than my 04 I will change it...

i dont like the R1's headlights everyone is so concerned about styling well one flaw is that ugly ass daytime running light on the new 04's which makes the bike seem so wide at night like a harley or some hog is approaching you... also not a fan of the undertail exhaust.. i personally like the Kawi's looks better and if you want to compare performance well most of the bikes are about same HP and only the rider will determine which is faster and better when your at the track...

Two of my friends own 04 R1 and they love them, one being a Ex-Honda rider. They both tell me that the power on the new R1 is laging when low in the R's. But as the R's climb it b/c a freaking monster. So I had my go round w/ one of them last night, and I love the power my 04 1K gives me in the low Rpm range compared to that of the R1. But it's a different story above 8-9 grand in the Rpm range. Comparing these two bikes is very difficult b/c they are so different in so many ways. Basically it comes down to what it is that a rider is wanting out of a bike. "To each is his own"

The new R1 is only new bike i'm yet to throw a leg over. But from what i've heard, from what i've read and from i've seen the new R1 IS the track bike of the lot. The power is delivered up top on the RPM's, and midrange it looks like it is 4th to all the new bikes. Still not sure on the styling - some I like it, Some day i do not - But I hate the riding position - it's gone too far towards racing crouch for me.
Not sure if i'd every buy one - i love me track days but i'm not really good enough (or wanting to continually rev the crap outtame bike to make power) to keep the revs above 10k all the time on the track. Have not heard good things about reliability - everyone has red the post of the new R1 blowing up, and i've seen some bikes at track days blowing smoke - notgood. Ialso read an article where Yam almost decided NOT to release the R1 for fear of stressing their engine past what their engineers told them was good.....longevity may be an issues - maynot, but all high revving engines do have a short used by date on them......of the other three - hhmmm - buy what fit's they are all fantastic bikes....Si

I've not ridden one but I have to say I agree with who was talking about the annoying width of the front end. If they could just narrow up the head peice and headlights some, i would almost like it over the gix. But i stil love #1 the 600/750 styling for the 04's. The r1 is good, but I can't say anything beyond looks right now. I have seen more zx10's then anything to tell ya the truth. But ya know what, it all comes down to rider. And we all love pulling up meeting new riders on their 1k's then going riding. Cause its people like me, the werido on the 600 that can pull it up at 70 and ride it for a mile, and even half way steer it around corners. No one is looking at those pretty little liter bikes anymore http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Having not ridden the new R1 it would be hard to make a fair comparasion but in terms of power and stlye they do impress me having seen one done the drag strip with less than a 100ks on it doing a very impressive time bone stock.Hower the still seem a bit wheelie prone for my liking and having a considerable power increase from the 02 model i am a bit concerned about engine loggevity with higher rev limit of the 04 model.For a long time the yamaha engineers have over stressed there motors in the search for more hp http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Not much "real" hp difference between the two:

Red = Stock 2003 1k
Blue = Stock 2004 R1

http://www.jsdproducts.com/images/1k3-04r1.jpg

Look at the two latest mag tests, Motorcyclist and Cycle World. Gixxer wins at the track, loses in the subjective analysis. Buy another bike if you think the racing org.s will be handing out subjective winner trophies at all the events. Still the king with a 2 year old design. How fucking cool is that?

I will take the low end torque of the Gix any day over the rev happy R-1. If I wanted to ride a bike that you had to rev to the moon to put it in it's power band I would go buy another R-6. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I bought my 2003 GSXR 1000 about two months ago from my good friend. He just bought a new 04' R1.

We were out riding the other day and after the ride we were headed back and there was a beautiful car free, good tarmac straight in front of us. So we both cracked it in about 3rd gear. I had no trouble passing him up.

I think that these bikes are so close though it's all just about the rider and the bikes being in their powerband.

I was in my powerband when we hit it, he was not most likely. I am comfortable wringing my bike's neck, he is not so I'm sure I was in my powerband longer.

I also out weigh him by about 65 lbs. So I think he should have been able to beat me, but again, the gixxer has way better mid range power than the R1 so it's really all about what you want in a bike.

If I wanted a bike that you had to ride like a 600 then I would have bought a 600 (he'll I would have just kept MY 600,.....) But if you want a bike that is balls ass fast at virtually any gear/rpm then get a GSXR!

Gixxilla

I've had both GSXR1000's and have an R1 now.

I have to agree with the sentiment that they are difficult to compare as they have a different philosophy when it comes to the engine. There is not doubt that the GSXR has dramatically more bottem end and midrange. However, pipes on the R1 net huge midrange gains, but they will still fall short.

Chassis is they both work very well. The OEM out of the box set-up is farther off on the Yamaha, but the Yamaha suspension is better than the GSXRs for sub 220lb riders. Its very easy to get the front working the same, where the Suzuki rear (on mine anway) had to settle on a compromise. Parf of the reason is the Yamaha adjusters offer finer adjustment at 1/8 turn clicks versus 1/4 turn clicks. Spring rates for my 175lbs are spot on, where the Suzuki need a spring swap (dont beat the dead horse please).

Regardless, the Suzuki still has better front end feel and feedback even if the R1 has better suspension. The R1 retains the tippy front end feel from the old R1s. I think this may be due to it still having a higher center of gravity than the Suzuk or giving you that feeling. This means you have to turn the Yamaha on the gas a bit more than the Suzuki.

The Yamaha has better drive out of corners since it wont break traction as early and you dont have to modulate it as much. This is where the lack of torque (vs the GSXR) helps, especially turning it with the gas on.

Even with its new damper, the R1 front end does want to slap before the GSXR does.

In the end, they go equally well chassis wise, but you do have to change your riding style a bit.

R1 makes you ride the front end harder to keep your momentum up since you arent afforeded mistakes. The GSXR lets you make up mistakes by having stonking good midrange. If I'm on my game, I go quicker than on my GSXR, but if I am having a so so day, then I'd have been faster on my GSXR.

6 of one, half dozen of another.

I dont know people.......I have both a gixxer1000(02 model) and an 04 yamaha R1........just yesterday me and my best friend went out for a ride......i let him use my Gixxer because his bike is out being painted......we hit a straight away and we both cracked it.....i hate to say it folks but we were pretty rvrn at first but i ended up pulloin away from him.......really close though.....he said he was right behid me.......these bikes are extremely close when it comes to comparing......all this talk about lack of bottom end and mid range on the R1 is BS......my R1 feels alot like my gixxer in this area......i am only five pounds lighter than him at 190pnds.........this is a close race folks.......it really comes down to whose on the bike

I starting to like the Honda. With a gel-seat of course. I just think they look cool. I feel like a GSXR 1000 with th e bars closer and better build Quality. But when I move up to a 1000 it will be a ZX 10,CBR 1000, or Gixx. I'm not digging the new R1.

I rode my someones R1 at the frack it has much better suspension for the track and you can make mid corner adjustments much easer. The stock brakes are fantastic. Every place my stock GSXR suspension got tied up it glides through. The R1 doesnt eat up tires like the GSXR so I was able to ride a gear lower on the R1 so it ended up I had more power on tap in real world track riding. On the street all that is not enough to matter the extra tunk space and comort with a passenger are real pluses especaly with all that low end grunt for lazy shifting. The 05 R1 is looking very tempting right now if I dont find a good used 600.

Can someone spell - Track Bike Vs Road bike out load ?? I'll say it again - A good Track Bike does NOT make a good Road bike...A good Road bike however, CAN be made into a decent track bike.....The R1 is a great Track bike.....

julioso said:
I dont know people.......I have both a gixxer1000(02 model) and an 04 yamaha R1........just yesterday me and my best friend went out for a ride......i let him use my Gixxer because his bike is out being painted......we hit a straight away and we both cracked it.....i hate to say it folks but we were pretty rvrn at first but i ended up pulloin away from him.......really close though.....he said he was right behid me.......these bikes are extremely close when it comes to comparing......all this talk about lack of bottom end and mid range on the R1 is BS......my R1 feels alot like my gixxer in this area......i am only five pounds lighter than him at 190pnds.........this is a close race folks.......it really comes down to whose on the bike



you are also comparing a 2yr old bike to a brand new one.

im not saying the new R1 is a better bike, im just saying that the R1 is in the hunt thats all....Im gonna go back on 1 thing i said earlier in the subject....The R1 does lack that low down grunt..........I deffinately noticed this the day after i posted this up.....i went on and made some sprocket adjustments and now my R1 is where it needs to be.....I aggree that its a great track bike but with a lil $$$ it can be a hell of a street bike.......I live in West Virginia so this bike is perfect for all the twisties and shit that the WV mountains have to offer

I will try to put my bias aside but I had what I consider to be the unfortunate oportunity to ride an 04 R1, and all I can say Love the rear hate the front and absolutely dispise having to put it at 10K just to be at a good range of power, I never have to get my Gix that high to get the best out of her. However I can say I believe what most of you do.
It will come down to personal preferance and the rider.

Palomartian said:
Look at the two latest mag tests, Motorcyclist and Cycle World. Gixxer wins at the track, loses in the subjective analysis.



Rider magazine conducted a more 'real world' test and found the gixxer to win hands down.

- comfortable seat
- much better wind protection than the others
- Gix engine has better low end torque for street riding
- Gix has street gearing (who needs to go 100mph in 1st gear?.....yup, that's what i thought http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif )
- and you're not sitting on a hot exhaust pipe with the gix. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

mb.

I agree on most things said here. I too have spent some time on an '04 R1. I am fairly short at 5'8", so i fit much better on the R1. It also feels smaller. My gixxer has better wind protection though, and i ride 2 up alot, so the gixxer is better in those aspects. I also love the headlights of the R1 at night. My gixxer has the worst headlights of any bike ive ever owned, except maybe my old '78 gs550. Gixxer has much better trunk. The two bikes need to be thrown in a giant blender then pour out the new bike. then youd have a machine . hehe.
Davae

I just rode my brothers 2008 R1, there is couple things i dont like about R1's. First thing is that its hard to shift up, compare to my gsxr. Second thing i dont like is the seat height, its alot higher than mine. Perfromance wise I just raced him 2 days ago i took him by 2 bikes freeway..we did roll on from 80-130 mph in 6th gear. His bike is still stock, mine has slip on exhaust. The R1's dont have low end power ( below 5000k). The gsxr has power everywhere. I am not saying the R1 sucks, every bike has pro's and con's.

i must say that they can freakin get up and ROLL


Did tank authorize you to make this thread?

I think they look bad-ass

Holy bring-the-thread-back-from-the-dead, Batman!

:wtf

guys the stinking thread is 4 years old. hollllly crap!

put 6feet under where it belongs again.

j

the r1 has no low end power. sure the bike looks good, but that is about where it ends. I was not a big fan of anything on that bike. The clutch was a pain in the ass, felt like it didnt handle as well as the gixxer, and lack major low end. felt like a fast 600 until higher rpms. this is just imo.

I own both a 2004 Vespa scooter and a 2004 Schwin mountain bike... Both are close in performance.

Does that help

OH yeah ---> Bump for super duper thread

wow! are we comparing the 04 R1 and 04 GSXR or the 08s?
HAHA!

Epic battle.

wow! are we comparing the 04 R1 and 04 GSXR or the 08s?
HAHA!

I guess we are comparing 08 now...lol:yumyum:yumyum

r1 looks like shit, looks like its a hoverboat or something

i would rather be on an R1 than any other jap bike (on the exception of the GSXR of course) they are damn good bikes and they are very competetive!

I a owner of a 06 r1 and a 08 gsxr 1000. I have to say the gsxr has far more low end power then the r1. Look wise its hard to chose because they both are uniqe in there own ways. It all comes down to how the bike feels and fits for you.http://C:\Users\jimMy_Ch4nG\Pictures\2008_0401

both are very nice (and of course fast)