Does anybody have any experience with this kit? I am thinking of doing a black bike and wnt to use these decals. I know people here have used RD before and have always been happy with the quality of the kit, but in looking at this particular kit I am not sure if this i a reasonable replication, or an exact replication. In the RD photo, the decals all look to be one solid color of gold, but in the following pics of the bike below it (sourced from BikePics.com) the large GSXR Hyper Endurancer and the R on the bottom of the cowl both look to have a fade from the bottom up that does not appear on the RD kit. Is this an illusion, or is the RD photo of the decals merely a representation of the product that does not show the fade? Looking to see if anybody here has used them before and can tell me for sure - or, since I know RD is a member on here, maybe he can post up.

http://www.rddecals.afegraphics.com/images/87gsxr750-1100-black-JP-AUS-logo-kit-500w.JPG

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/04/24/bikepics-1959525-full.jpg

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2008/10/21/bikepics-1456803-800.jpg

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2008/06/08/bikepics-1314663-800.jpg

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2005/11/02/bikepics-459111-800.jpg

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http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/08/27/bikepics-7526-full.jpg

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/09/01/bikepics-7841-full.jpg

I'd have to agree with you that assessment Eric. I've been toying with the idea of doing a black bike version '87 750. There were 2 models that incorporated this scheme - 1987 750, and 1988 1100 "Jubilee".

I'd be quite interested to know if RD Decals has the "fade" in the GSXR (tail fairings). Someone here must have purchased this package... and has first-hand knowledge.

I'm sure we'll here something soon.

jb_xx

Yeah, I plan to order a set this month as I am going to shoot some paint on a "spare" set of fairings I have to see if I have what it takes to do paint. I have done it before, but small stuff, rattle can centric, and some models/airbrush type stuff. Never tried to do a full professional looking job with decals so I wanted to keep it simple and I like the look of this bike. Reminds me of the Bandit Trans Am. My wheels will be a matching gold though, and the bike this bodywork will eventually end up on will have a satin black frame as well.

Wow... that sounds like a pretty cool job. Will you be changing your mod name to "Bandit" ??... do you laugh funny (like Burt)... and would you consider wearing a cowboy hat?

;)

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OK guys tell me what do you think about this decal i replicated this one i have the rest of the set all what we need is get the right measurements and will print them.

It looks pretty good Maz. I'm assuming this was done in a vector-based software program (e.g. - Illustrator). Just noticing some of the curved sections (the 'S', the 'R'). What I've done in the past is scan in the logo, import the native .tif or .eps file to Illustrator, lock the layer, and use your pen-tool on a new seperate layer. This will give you greater ability to smoothen out the logo. Too many nodes will create a "stepped" look, particularly noticeable in the curved sections of a font/letter design. It's easy to go back and make adjustments. The fade effect turned out quite nice!

I can try and scan an original black/gold Suzuki decal if that helps.

I think I have a black 'Hyper Endurancer' seat side cover at home - I'll check and try post up a good pic tonight.

Yeah, I plan to order a set this month as I am going to shoot some paint on a "spare" set of fairings I have to see if I have what it takes to do paint. I have done it before, but small stuff, rattle can centric, and some models/airbrush type stuff. Never tried to do a full professional looking job with decals so I wanted to keep it simple and I like the look of this bike. Reminds me of the Bandit Trans Am. My wheels will be a matching gold though, and the bike this bodywork will eventually end up on will have a satin black frame as well.

i like the black and gold - colors i painted my first triumph
A spray gun is easier to get a good finish -get the part being painted between yourself and a good light sourse iff you get your head down so your looking along the part it's easier to see how even the paint going on is ,where it's thin it will look a bit like sandpaper

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OK guys tell me what do you think about this decal i replicated this one i have the rest of the set all what we need is get the right measurements and will print them.

Sorry, the fade is right but the script is all wrong. I appreciate the attempt, but if I'm going to go through the trouble of painting it right, I would expect anyone that wants to sell me decals to also make sure they are perfect. So, if you are willing to put in the time to make them look exactly how they are supposed to look, then I will be willing to pay for it. That said, if I can get multi color decals for half of single color, then that is what I would expect to pay.

I realize that this may seem harsh but, for starters, this is not the classified section and I hold myself to the same standards as everyone else - I'm looking for info on an existing kit, not soliciting competing offers. Secondly, almost may be good for some, but it don't come close for me.

Here is a close-up of what the lettering should look like - Each letter of GSXR is individually cut and HYPER ENDURANCER is one decal. Check with Mark at RD's to see what theirs is like in 'real life'. The quality of the decal will certainly be up to standard, but as to the exactness of the copy, ask them. :cheers

Good photos Oz ... that should clear up any questions on what the gold lettering should look like. That's the way I'd expect them to be re-created by a design house.

Sorry, the fade is right but the script is all wrong. I appreciate the attempt, but if I'm going to go through the trouble of painting it right, I would expect anyone that wants to sell me decals to also make sure they are perfect. So, if you are willing to put in the time to make them look exactly how they are supposed to look, then I will be willing to pay for it. That said, if I can get multi color decals for half of single color, then that is what I would expect to pay.

I realize that this may seem harsh but, for starters, this is not the classified section and I hold myself to the same standards as everyone else - I'm looking for info on an existing kit, not soliciting competing offers. Secondly, almost may be good for some, but it don't come close for me.



NEVER asked for money :dunno this is also a test not complete as far as i said i need the measurements:scratch
Yeah that sound harsh cause am not selling or soliciting or competing offers.
you dont like it, thats fine but giving such statement that no cool.
am doing my own project and those are from my work , shared them just cause i like for my self what i liked for every brother here.

you want to buy them from "RD DECALS" that's totally up to you and theres no one here will hold your standards for any level....

I knew that was coming. Like I said, I appreciate the effort, but I wasn't looking for a new source, just somebody that had experience with that particular RD kit. From what I have seen here on the RD stuff, he's work is very good, and for that work, you pay a price. I'm willing to pay it if it is indeed correct, and there is no need to re-create the wheel. So while I can understand how you feel a little bent by what I said, I can only expect you to understand my point of view as well. I don't mean to put down your work, but you did ask, and so I commented. The fade looked right, but the rest of it didn't. I know it's better than what I can do because I can't do it at all, but I'm not looking for free, I'm looking to pay the right price for the right kit. So it goes back to my original question, and I have sent it to Mark at RD to see if he can answer it.

The standards I was referring to was that of doing business outside the classifieds. As soon as you posted your decals, I was waiting for the PM's to start coming in about why it's okay for me to do business outside of the classifieds, and the answer is, it isn't okay and I wanted to make sure everybody knew that I wasn't soliciting anything, just looking for an opinion on a new RD kit.

So, sorry I offended, but you did say it was a complete kit already and that you only needed the measurements. That means different things to different people. To me it menat it was done but you needed to know how tall or wide they needed to be. I've purchased decals before from the UK that were supposed to be factory replicas and they weren't even close. But the price I paid plus shipping should have told me that - so, that will never happen again. RD has a good rep here, and as long as the kit is an exact replica of factory, I'm willing to pay his price for it. All I'm looking for is confirmation on the fade.

I knew that was coming. Like I said, I appreciate the effort, but I wasn't looking for a new source, just somebody that had experience with that particular RD kit. From what I have seen here on the RD stuff, he's work is very good, and for that work, you pay a price. I'm willing to pay it if it is indeed correct, and there is no need to re-create the wheel. So while I can understand how you feel a little bent by what I said, I can only expect you to understand my point of view as well. I don't mean to put down your work, but you did ask, and so I commented. The fade looked right, but the rest of it didn't. I know it's better than what I can do because I can't do it at all, but I'm not looking for free, I'm looking to pay the right price for the right kit. So it goes back to my original question, and I have sent it to Mark at RD to see if he can answer it.

The standards I was referring to was that of doing business outside the classifieds. As soon as you posted your decals, I was waiting for the PM's to start coming in about why it's okay for me to do business outside of the classifieds, and the answer is, it isn't okay and I wanted to make sure everybody knew that I wasn't soliciting anything, just looking for an opinion on a new RD kit.

So, sorry I offended, but you did say it was a complete kit already and that you only needed the measurements. That means different things to different people. To me it menat it was done but you needed to know how tall or wide they needed to be. I've purchased decals before from the UK that were supposed to be factory replicas and they weren't even close. But the price I paid plus shipping should have told me that - so, that will never happen again. RD has a good rep here, and as long as the kit is an exact replica of factory, I'm willing to pay his price for it. All I'm looking for is confirmation on the fade.

Hey got what you saying nothing much happen :cheers
dude am not selling anything here honestly and i wish if we have section DIY
were we have all the info we need so the guys that like to work on something by them self they will find the info and will enjoy them project.
it was never about reinventing the wheel its about the adventure and fun by DIY.

anyhow all the feedback is great the pictures have cleared the problem thanks OZ boy ill correct them.

Guys I have this RD kit right next to me for my repaint. You are 100% correct it does not appear to have any fading! I haven't even opened it to check until now :(

Heres a pic of the tank I sprayed for it (which Karitane Pete gave me free after the earthquake - my first time spraying, and it shows unfortunately)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/5779026766_4102f18879_z.jpg

Yeah... well, from this side of the lense, the paintjob looks decent Fruit. I'm sure you can see whatever run, or imperfections from your end. Looks like calm water, or glass from here.

BTW - Get that tank off the asphalt dude!

OK guys tell me what do you think about this decal i replicated this one i have the rest of the set all what we need is get the right measurements and will print them.

what format do you need for your printer is it a printer/Cutter? I have experience with vector graphics and setting up a cut file for vinyl cutter and i think i could replicate the black and gold decal but was really looking to do others. Feel free to PM me

'Loops, looks better than OK from this angle so well done. Black would be the toughest colour to do though; any imperfections will show up and stand out like like 'dogs balls'. Some of the loudspeakers we make are finished in piano black and they seem to take forever for the pro-painters to get just right.

As your decals are yet to be installed, you can flatten the imperfections with 800 wet/dry, apply the decals, then shoot a clear coat (which you should do on the tank to protect the decals from spilt fuel)

Loops, all you need to do is polish it out. The finish is NEVER a mirror finish until it is polished/wetsanded.

Cheers Ozboy, yeah I've got clearcoat for the tank. When I got the bike the decals were on top and the dye in the tank ones was faded and damaged.

I should've done base coat clearcoat from the start - as it is its single stage (with compatible clear though for tank) I do have a couple small runs and a lot of the glass fairing bits have some orange peel :( may try polish/buffing but I don't want them to oxidize in a year or two

Thanks for posting Fruitloops. Maybe we can get Mark to modify the decals for us? Any chance you may be willing to send him your tail cover so he can replicate Oz?

I would certainly do that in your case long, but for me i'm far enough along i'll just go with what i've got mine isn't 100% accurate anyhow (86 forks etc) :)

Thanks for posting Fruitloops. Maybe we can get Mark to modify the decals for us? Any chance you may be willing to send him your tail cover so he can replicate Oz?

Eric, If you're serious, I would certainly let him use my cover for copying purposes BUT, RD's is not just around the corner; I'm in Aus and they are in Canada.

If you want to act as middle to organise something, I'll certainly help out (I imagine the postage there and back will blow about $50 in itself though). I can easily send him better pics and dimensions which may be easier and no costs involved.

I'm NOT with the Government, but always willing to help.:cheers Mike

I'm in Canada... maybe I can help. This week is terrible for me... gone racing for the weekend. If you need me to assist, I'm here for you guys. Just a "PM" away. ;)

jb_xx

Okay, I PM'd Mark earlier today so we'll see what he says when he gets back to me.

Throwing a gradient into the design shouldn't be anything more than a "click" away. Honestly... it's not a difficult process.

That's what I'm hoping he'll say.

Nice choice av8r, you won't regret having a black one. After 20+ years of owning stock original bikes with their blue and white or black and red scheme, I'm loving my Hyper Endurancer. Still nothing beats the 1986 Red and Blue jobby. but that one was very special with 2 capital R's.

Man that black is going to be a pain in the ass to keep clean and in a couple of years its going to look all scuffed just from normal washing Id go with the red and black 88 thats got to be the nicest 1100 ever made. I am building one rt now with a blacked out frame yosh side panels,yosh upper air ducts and a indurance race bike style tank,yosh style braced swingarm and pm rims,I think theres a reason that there are not many of those black bikes out there because they are very plain looking.

But... I don't have to limit myself to just one bike. In fact, the black one will be GSXR #4.

Okay, I PM'd Mark earlier today so we'll see what he says when he gets back to me.


I'll see if I can dig up his e-mail address

Yeah I got a weakness for these bikes too. I got 5 of them 86 1100 red&blue ,88 1100blk&red,2 blu&wht 86 750s and 1 red&blk 85 750 and my all blacked out Harley Roadglide.so yeah, no limits here either.

Just a bunch of guys picking out colors. :homo :lick

Hey BJbirdxoxo oh sorry its JBbirdxoxo you seem like a guy whos really into colors like rainbow flags.

Hey BJbirdxoxo oh sorry its JBbirdxoxo you seem like a guy whos really into colors like rainbow flags.

I also like taking long walks on the beach, roller-blading, watching sunsets, and spending time with my pet dog butch. I'm also a big promoter for world peace! :wtf :lmao

Ok, so Suzuki, at some point in history, somewhere in the world, released an OEM black original gixxer??... Am I getting this right?

Man that black is going to be a pain in the ass to keep clean and in a couple of years its going to look all scuffed just from normal washing Id go with the red and black 88 thats got to be the nicest 1100 ever made. I am building one rt now with a blacked out frame yosh side panels,yosh upper air ducts and a indurance race bike style tank,yosh style braced swingarm and pm rims,I think theres a reason that there are not many
of those black bikes out there because they are very plain looking.

Black and reds do require much more maintenance than a lighter or metallic color, but if polish and wax is kept up then nothing can be more curvaceous. Nothing will look more wet. Perhaps though this is more apparent on a car or a cruiser.

Ok, so Suzuki, at some point in history, somewhere in the world, released an OEM black original gixxer??... Am I getting this right?

Yes there was a run of "jubilee edition" bikes that were in this black and gold scheme. Not many though, mostly in Australia I believe :)

Apart from the paint I think everything was standard.

Black and reds do require much more maintenance than a lighter or metallic color, but if polish and wax is kept up then nothing can be more curvaceous. Nothing will look more wet. Perhaps though this is more apparent on a car or a cruiser.

It certainly is apparent on my truck! I don't mind it on a bike unless its a dirt bike. Black plastics get jacked up pretty quick on those. I've had them before and they look great until the first weekend in the desert, after that you can't wait to bag them and get some other color. Darker metallics like my Harley are harder to keep clean, and that bike has chrome on it to keep clean as well so it's a major PITA - I can't imagine a black GSXR being more difficult than that.

Yeah black does look bad ass when its new I had a black 90 mustang GT and a couple of Buick Grand Nationals and when they were clean they looked sick but that clean look lasted for a couple of hours till they got dusty then every imperfection stood out like a sore thumb.but if your willing to do bodywork on all of your panels and block them out im sure it will look sweet but if you paint them as is there gonna look like some fat chicks ass full of ripples,but looking at your old 87 750 you do clean tasteful work so im sure its gonna be nice.

No, this is my first honest attempt at paint. The 87 had all NOS stuff on it as far as paint goes so that was easy.

Got a reply from Mark today. Looks like we need some good scans, phots, or actual parts to make this work. Oz, can you get photos of everything and email them to me and Mark?

It's been awhile since I was on the forum.
I got an email saying I should check in.
Gold/black decals.
I was aware of the fade when we first did the development work.
But no one could offer up clean close up photos of what the OEM fade really looks like.
I was sort of kinda pushed along by more than one client to get a product out the door for this item. Eventually we accepted the fact it would be an aftermarket solution.
Maybe one day I'll get a photo that we can use. Couple photos, side and tank logos, I believe. Would be nice. The changes could be made.
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isnt there a guy from south africa here on the board with a black scheme bike? He should get some close ups.

Yeah long I sent him an email, on a semi-unrelated note regarding my decals (and my slight inability to do things correctly!!) and I linked him to the thread and attached those three shots from Oz :)

In other news, all my decals are on bar the tank ones :D

Got a reply from Mark today. Looks like we need some good scans, phots, or actual parts to make this work. Oz, can you get photos of everything and email them to me and Mark?

Eric, I have sent the picture to Mark, can you PM me your email and I will forward a copy of the email to you.

Black rocks my socks.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/%7Ekarl/images/PIC_0263.JPG

Damn Evil I *really* could've used that photo for my left hand "R" bellypan placement. I went to apply it without a left side photo literally a few minutes before you posted that :(

I muffed it, but on the whole I'm pleased with my effort :) I wheeled it out today without the tank decals + clearcoat, couldn't resist getting it out the garage. Haven't really cleaned the bike or anything (even the rotors still have overspray haha :biggrin ).

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5192/5820214904_322dbc6f1d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/5820215178_3e0456742b_b.jpg

As you guys can see, no fading on the decals at all.

wow that bike is too sweet.

Hey Loops Looking good, alot differant to the last pic I saw with the dented tank

Well done 'Loops, you've got to be happy with that, Mike