First off I must say this product is sweet! I aligned my wheels in less time than if I struggled to count those factory marks on the swingarm that are never correct in the first place!

How does it work? You simply mount the identical laser source / target units to both front and rear wheels. The front wheel laser is then turned on and the front wheel is set so that the laser strikes the rear alignment target. The rear wheel laser is then turned on, and the rear wheel axel shaft is adjusted using your bike’s swingarm adjusting screws until the rear laser beam strikes the front alignment target. That’s it! Your front to rear wheel alignment can be accurately set within minutes.

http://www.gixxer.com/articles/llnotaligned.jpg
(see how far off the alignment was from using the swingarm marks)

http://www.gixxer.com/articles/llaligned.jpg
(spot on now with Laser-Lines help of course http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif)

This great product has recently been updated with 635 nanometer wavelength lasers, which make it very easy to see the light in bright sunlight such as at a race track (previous units came with 650 nm lasers, but they were not as easily visible in bright daylight).
The complete laser-line tool system is available for only $188.00 plus shipping and handling.
Get yours today http://www.laser-lines.com/

That would be a great give-away! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif That looks very good. How do you know that the alignment tool is set properly on your wheel?

Jon no h said:
That would be a great give-away! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif That looks very good. How do you know that the alignment tool is set properly on your wheel?



if you have rims with a ribbed center it just butts up against that

if you have no ribbed center you have to measure your wheel widths and do a little math and measuring, all explained very clearly in the instructions http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

But I have to ask.... how much for this monstrosity?

...just another quick question. How do you know that your front wheel, (apparently used to index the back wheel), is perfectly straight with the frame. Couldn't your lasers be off if you had your bars slightly turned to one side or the other?

CCadam said:
...just another quick question. How do you know that your front wheel, (apparently used to index the back wheel), is perfectly straight with the frame. Couldn't your lasers be off if you had your bars slightly turned to one side or the other?



you first move the front wheel so it's laser hits the rear wheel's alignment plate (exactly the same as the one in the picture on the front wheel) so you are aligning your wheels to each other!

of course your frame could be a warped pretzel, but at least your two tires are pointed in the same direction :0

Gixxnrocket said:
But I have to ask.... how much for this monstrosity?



monstrosity? it doesn't stay with the bike so why should it be any smaller? it has to be able to clear exhaust etc on various bikes

The complete laser-line tool system is available for only $188.00 plus shipping and handling.
Get yours today http://www.laser-lines.com/

very sweet - question is can you feel any difference in the way the bike handles or rolls down the road?

Mr Gixxer said:

CCadam said:
...just another quick question. How do you know that your front wheel, (apparently used to index the back wheel), is perfectly straight with the frame. Couldn't your lasers be off if you had your bars slightly turned to one side or the other?



you first move the front wheel so it's laser hits the rear wheel's alignment plate (exactly the same as the one in the picture on the front wheel) so you are aligning your wheels to each other!

of course your frame could be a warped pretzel, but at least your two tires are pointed in the same direction :0



so in other words your just doing the front wheel by eye? Where you think it looks good right? If you wanted to have the front wheel turned a bit to the left you could line the rear up with it so when your going down the road your dog tracking?

No the two wheels are aligned to each other, as they both are mounted to the center "rib" on my particular rims (no center rib just takes a bit of measuring and usage of the supplied bracket to get the center points even)

So you first turn the front wheel so that it's laser alignes to the rear wheels laser alignment plate then with the rear wheel adjuster you get the rear wheel to align to the center of the front wheel's laser alignment plate (exact same unit mounted on both front and rear wheel)

Got it now?

sounds complicated, though i am sure it is easy, just cant justify spending that much when my 20 dollar sprocket alignment tool does the trick. I guess it would be worth it when you need a high level of precision http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

ive got a set thanks to this thread and i love them so do most of my mates as ive set there bikes up too with them real easy when you do the maths . im well pleased with them .

Ab

where do u get the sprocket alignment tool from?

http://www.mxbike.com/catalog/Motion+Pro+Chain+Alignment+Tool

Seems one would need to first align the front wheel to a hard-point on the bike (swingarm?) and THEN align the rear wheel to the front.

Otherwise, yes, you would align the rear to the front. That and you could end up tracking two parallel line, instead of tracking one line.

Take a look at some older vehicles running down the road today: the front wheels (adjustable) are aligned to the rear (fixed). Now, if the rear axle is off center, twisted, or the frame is out of true, then the damn vehicle appear (and is) running down the road damn near sideways!
But wheels are aligned. To each other.

I would prefer a string method, or a jig that contacts the rims at two points per side, each rim; with one or two true rods connecting the brackets touching the rims. Whoa. Way too complicated. Need some more beer.

Seems one would need to first align the front wheel to a hard-point on the bike (swingarm?) and THEN align the rear wheel to the front.

Otherwise, yes, you would align the rear to the front. That and you could end up tracking two parallel line, instead of tracking one line.

Take a look at some older vehicles running down the road today: the front wheels (adjustable) are aligned to the rear (fixed). Now, if the rear axle is off center, twisted, or the frame is out of true, then the damn vehicle appear (and is) running down the road damn near sideways!
But wheels are aligned. To each other.

I would prefer a string method, or a jig that contacts the rims at two points per side, each rim; with one or two true rods connecting the brackets touching the rims. Whoa. Way too complicated. Need some more beer.



if your front wheel and back wheel are both in a straight line that is all you want or need since it is a ONE track vehicle and not a car http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

if your front wheel and back wheel are both in a straight line that is all you want or need since it is a ONE track vehicle and not a car http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif



Good point http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

First off I must say this product is sweet! I aligned my wheels in less time than if I struggled to count those factory marks on the swingarm that are never correct in the first place!




why does everyone say that?? you shouldv'e posted a pic of the lazer alignment vs factory alignment. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif

That would put that argument to rest!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

First off I must say this product is sweet! I aligned my wheels in less time than if I struggled to count those factory marks on the swingarm that are never correct in the first place!




why does everyone say that?? you shouldv'e posted a pic of the lazer alignment vs factory alignment. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif

That would put that argument to rest!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif



(see how far off the alignment was from using the swingarm marks)

I did !

Me too........ the swingarm is off! Also ask any QUALIFIED bike mechanic if you do not belive what we have SEEN, and then he will tell you the same thing.

I purchased the Laser Lines several months ago and have used the system often. The first time I used them it took about 30 minutes to do the set up. Since then it takes less than five minutes to align the wheels. This system makes stringing obsolete and the cost is so worth the time saved.

I have tried a similar system and I found it a bit of a pain. I simply string my bike up at the beginning of the season (takes about 5 minutes). Then use a set of caliper to measure the axle block offset from the back of the swingarm.

For example: say the right axle block is 16mm and the left is 16.4mm after you have it straight. Then, write down those numbers and they won't change (unless you crash).

Now, I change my wheels, set my chain tension and check my .4mm offset....and I am all good!

DON'T USE THE SWINGARM SCRIBE LINES!

It works great on my old bike, as it has the center "lip" on both front and back wheels. If your bike has no rim lip in the center then some simple measuring and math are required to find the rim center point http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

where do u buy this thing at?

Holy old thread Batman!