I've got a 2006 GSX-R1000 and just did my 1st race with WSMC recently, at the Big Track. I've been thinking about upgrading my fork internals to GP Tech internals and have the work done by Tige and crew at Cyclemall.net/Catalyst Reaction Suspension Tuning. I currently have Race Tech internals/valving and they absolutely have the crappiest feel when it comes to racing and bringing up the pace. Granted, I'm not the fastest 1K rider out there (that's why I'm still a novice Newbie), but at 1:33's and 34's, I feel I can go so much faster except front end feel is not very good. Especially with corner entry to about mid-corner just before the apex and getting back on the gas and weight transfer is starting to initiate. I especially feel the weakness of the forks in T3 (uphill camber), T5 (downhill offcamber), and T6 (monroe ridge). Believe it or not, it actually doesn't feel too bad on the faster stuff like T1, T2, and T9. With lack of feel for the front end/traction I feel a certain amount of confidence is lacking-which seems to translates to seconds. I'd love to be able to crack into the 29's and then we can start talking about fine tuning the rider and the bike more. Race Tech's were good for trackdays, I finally wanna step it up to full-on race capable forks. I've got a 3-way adjustable Elka shock so that's not really a weak link anymore.

Also, would I benefit from picking up some adjustable offsets from a company like Attack. When does adjusting rake/trail truly start making a difference in faster laptimes. thanks guys/gals.

I've got a 2006 GSX-R1000 and just did my 1st race with WSMC recently, at the Big Track. I've been thinking about upgrading my fork internals to GP Tech internals and have the work done by Tige and crew at Cyclemall.net/Catalyst Reaction Suspension Tuning. I currently have Race Tech internals/valving and they absolutely have the crappiest feel when it comes to racing and bringing up the pace. Granted, I'm not the fastest 1K rider out there (that's why I'm still a novice Newbie), but at 1:33's and 34's, I feel I can go so much faster except front end feel is not very good. Especially with corner entry to about mid-corner just before the apex and getting back on the gas and weight transfer is starting to initiate. I especially feel the weakness of the forks in T3 (uphill camber), T5 (downhill offcamber), and T6 (monroe ridge). Believe it or not, it actually doesn't feel too bad on the faster stuff like T1, T2, and T9. With lack of feel for the front end/traction I feel a certain amount of confidence is lacking-which seems to translates to seconds. I'd love to be able to crack into the 29's and then we can start talking about fine tuning the rider and the bike more. Race Tech's were good for trackdays, I finally wanna step it up to full-on race capable forks. I've got a 3-way adjustable Elka shock so that's not really a weak link anymore.

Also, would I benefit from picking up some adjustable offsets from a company like Attack. When does adjusting rake/trail truly start making a difference in faster laptimes. thanks guys/gals.

I like the cycle mall staff quite a bit. That said, I cant believe running above 1:30 the race tech stuff isnt cutting it. Where are your fork tubes, flush, 5mm above where? Does the Elka shock have a ride height adjuster or did they add shims? How old is your fork oil? Do you know what settings you are running? Have you tried to make any adjustments?

My advice (I'm a novice as well so take it as you want to), next weekend WSMC is at streets great track with alot of different types of corners, spend the $40 for Tige to work with you during the day and maybe he can narrow down your problems and get you a set up that will work with your current internals.

How long ago did you get the valving done by race tech? I know they have a 90 day warranty but if your bike is strictly track you might be able to convince them to work with you if its been a bit longer. Racing is expensive, and racing a thou is super freaking expensive. Save your pennies everywhere you can. And see you at the track :punk

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Forks set 5 mm above triples, ride height adjustable Elka=10 mm per Tige. Running Bridgestone BT003 medium front/hard rear. Can't remember spring rate but it's sprung for 200lbs+ rider (1.0 rate?). Fork rebound=6 clicks out. Comp=4 clicks out. The area killing me is T3 and T6. Seconds may be adding up a bit through there. Otherwise, I'm just about WFO thru everything else. It's entry feel on those camber/off-camber turns.

So the rear is raised 10mm and the front is lowered? What is your steering rake angle? I absolutely love turn 3, turn 5 I just try to survive it to get to 6.:lol

Forks set 5 mm above triples, ride height adjustable Elka=10 mm per Tige. Running Bridgestone BT003 medium front/hard rear. Can't remember spring rate but it's sprung for 200lbs+ rider (1.0 rate?). Fork rebound=6 clicks out. Comp=4 clicks out. The area killing me is T3 and T6. Seconds may be adding up a bit through there. Otherwise, I'm just about WFO thru everything else. It's entry feel on those camber/off-camber turns.

Are you going to streets this weekend? You totally should! Great track to get your suspension dialed in on!

Where are you letting off the brake s in turn three? Are you trail braking or letting off and getting back on the gas at the apex? Are you off the gas as you enter 6? When you let off the gas or get on the brakes your front end dives and trail is decreased. This helps the bike turn in but can make it feel a bit unsteady. We had the opposite problem last race weekend, I felt great thru 3-4-5 but I was struggling to keep the bike on my line in 1, 2 and 9. We increased the trail a bit too much. When I moved my forks back up 5mm or so it felt much better. So maybe you need to move them down in the clamps a few mm but I am no suspension guru :biggrin Or you could always lower the rear a few mm as well. But...I have no clue what ideal geometry is for your bike. I know CM has alot of GSXR's on their race team so I'm sure James or Tige could point you in the right direction.

I have traxxion dynamics full internals in my 06 750 and there amazing, so much feel on the track I can believe it. Had Race Tech in it before and was not impressed with them, so I switched and wont look back! Is your rear shock stock?

I've got a 2006 GSX-R1000 and just did my 1st race with WSMC recently, at the Big Track. I've been thinking about upgrading my fork internals to GP Tech internals and have the work done by Tige and crew at Cyclemall.net/Catalyst Reaction Suspension Tuning. I currently have Race Tech internals/valving and they absolutely have the crappiest feel when it comes to racing and bringing up the pace. Granted, I'm not the fastest 1K rider out there (that's why I'm still a novice Newbie), but at 1:33's and 34's, I feel I can go so much faster except front end feel is not very good. Especially with corner entry to about mid-corner just before the apex and getting back on the gas and weight transfer is starting to initiate. I especially feel the weakness of the forks in T3 (uphill camber), T5 (downhill offcamber), and T6 (monroe ridge). Believe it or not, it actually doesn't feel too bad on the faster stuff like T1, T2, and T9. With lack of feel for the front end/traction I feel a certain amount of confidence is lacking-which seems to translates to seconds. I'd love to be able to crack into the 29's and then we can start talking about fine tuning the rider and the bike more. Race Tech's were good for trackdays, I finally wanna step it up to full-on race capable forks. I've got a 3-way adjustable Elka shock so that's not really a weak link anymore.

Also, would I benefit from picking up some adjustable offsets from a company like Attack. When does adjusting rake/trail truly start making a difference in faster laptimes. thanks guys/gals.

I would say who cares about 3 and 5. 6 is important for drive thru 7,8, and 9, but it is usually a line choice that fixes things in 6 (squaring it off so you don't crest six too leaned over) If it is good in 1, 2, and 9, I wouldn't play with it too much. That's where all of the time is. If course Tige could always make it better thru 1, 2, and 9. I just wouldn't focus much at all on the slow stuff. People used to say "even fast guys are slow through slow corners." Trying to go fast thru slow corners lands you on your head :) Just my .02

Ryabusa it sounds like you have too much front end bias. My race K6 geometry was setup by GMD and they came out to Forks were flush with the Triple, and the shock was only raised 5mm. I had felt I was still getting too much front end bias in some of the downhill and off camber corners so I lowered my rear 2 more MM at the shock (for 5mm at the ride height) but never did get a chance to test it.

Don't worry about getting adjustable Triples as that will just throw another wrench into you finding a setup for your bike.

My biggest issue on my bike my last year racing was with the rear and spinning in places it should not have been spinning with the lean angle I had.