For the ones that have installed a full system and a PCIII or yosh box what kind of horsepower gains did you get out of it. Just trying to see if mine is in line.

Got about 6 hp over stock with a Micron full system and a PCII. I'll bet some people are going to claim 15-20hp which is total bullshit. If you get a custom map done you might be able to squeeze 10 hp out at the most. Remember the old saying "there's no replacement for displacement". Happy tuning.

So what were your stock numbers? Mine is going to have a custom map built first weekend in may. Full muuzy exaust, pc2, and a K&N air filter. What do you think I will get?

Hmm, if you judge just by peak hp numbers you may be thinking a bit wrong. You need to look at the overall change in bike performance/rideability, not just a single small factor like peak hp that does not tell about the rest of the rpm/throttle position range

jeffw said:
Hmm, if you judge just by peak hp numbers you may be thinking a bit wrong. You need to look at the overall change in bike performance/rideability, not just a single small factor like peak hp that does not tell about the rest of the rpm/throttle position range



He's absolutely correct. When I had mine remapped after some modifications I only gained about 1hp at the peak. But from 8-10,000 rpms the gains, just from correct mapping, were huge. 8-10hp gain in that range and the curve was smoothed out bigtime.

The overall performance is deffinetly why Im going to have the map done. My bike seems to run very rough in the lower rpm range and I hope that it can be smoothed out. I was just wondering about the peak hp numbers for a 750 cause two of my friends just had thsir done. One was an 03 R1 (hindle slip on pc3r K&N air filter and graves slide stop kit) he had 116 then with a remap ended up with 130. The other was an 03 zx6rr (hindle slip on and a pcusb) he had 98 and ended up with 110. That seems to be an awsome increase in power, and they both say it was the best thing they have ever had done to a bike.

Having mine mapped made a big difference as far as eliminating the mid range flat spot and over all smooth power delivery. It is much "snappier" getting on the throttle as well. I didn't have it dyno'd before so have no idea hp wise, but now with full Hindle, K&N, and PC it is at 129.8 and the curve super smooth.

i went from 121 to 130. but the 130 was on a day where it was 95% humidity and around 70 degrees. my tuner said it would be down 1 or 2 HP due to climate. i have been told that when you get the bike out on the street with some air going thru it, it will pick up a few more ponies.

130 out of a 750. That will make my friend with his R1 cry. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

On that note, any preferences in the PC? Which is better IIIr or IIIusb? Got a full Yosh TRS and a TRE on order. Heard the IIIusb is better in the long run with all the add-ons that should be available. Also, with the Ingnition add-on for the IIIusb, how will it effect the TRE?

with a IIIr you don't need the TRE.... that's the way I understand it anyway.

GixxerKZR said:
with a IIIr you don't need the TRE.... that's the way I understand it anyway.



All depends..... if you can tell me exactly how much ignition advance that you need to "dial" in using a rc3r.....then no you don't.

But then again, you won't find anyone to answer that question around here.


The pc3r is limited to how much you can adjust either +-....... something also to remember.

well I would imagine that you'd take it to a DynoJet shop and have them adjust it for a combination of the best power and smoothest response. IMO the only way to get the mapping tuned correctly is with the feedback data you get from dyno runs. The TRE just fixes you in a 5th gear map. I would also imagine that you'd only want to go +/- 4-5 degs in the timing. What's the range of the PC3r?

I'm no expert btw... just some educated observations.

GixxerKZR said:
well I would imagine that you'd take it to a DynoJet shop and have them adjust it for a combination of the best power and smoothest response. IMO the only way to get the mapping tuned correctly is with the feedback data you get from dyno runs. The TRE just fixes you in a 5th gear map. I would also imagine that you'd only want to go +/- 4-5 degs in the timing. What's the range of the PC3r?

I'm no expert btw... just some educated observations.



4-5 degress advance can be too much for pump gas, depending on the quality.

I had 4-5 degrees with my RC51 and it ran like shit on pump gas....backed it down to 3 degrees and no problems.

YOU MUST be careful when adding timing and not get carried away with it. It is also a combination of timing and fuel together that make the power, not always just timing....correct me if I'm wrong on that one JeffW http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

why does my Title for my 2004 750 say that it has 145 hp ? ummm... gah... heading to the dyno shop now... lol

I have a 2003 750 and I used the yoshi bolt on map but I am experiencing a flat spot at 12000 to 14000 and my top speed is really suffering. Does anyone have a map that can help? It would be greatly appreciated.

Man... I feel SOOOO disgusted right now... I just got in my PCIIIusb yesterday and got my bike dynoed and tuned today; with less than inspiring results. I was expecting to pick up another 4-5 hp more out of it (I have a MiG hi-mount exhaust) but instead only recieved an additional and might I say, pitiful 1 horsepower. This place that did it was advertised on Powercommander.com to be the premeire local dyno tuner. The service guys claimed to have tried different maps and the one on my bike now was the best suited to my exhaust. Is there something I'm missing? Where are these guys that are gaining 10 horses more??? How in the HELL did they do that besides having a full exhaust; can it make THAT much of a difference?? FUCK! I'm so pissed off right now! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
What else can I do guys but piss on myself for throwing away $360 (parts and tune)?
Alright, I'm leaving myself WIDE open. Take a whack at me guys, I deserve it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif

Post your before and after runs, preferably overlayed if you have it. Also post the A/F ratio across the RPM range. If the tuner did their job, you should now have a much smoother power delivery. I'd be really suprised if, just by putting a Pcomm on, you'd gain much at the peak. You're mapping would have to have been really messed up to expect a gain of 4-5 peak hp. Hopefully the tuner didn't just keep trying different maps. They should find one that is close then tweek it based on A/F and check it with the runs.

Bruce_ said:
Man... I feel SOOOO disgusted right now... I just got in my PCIIIusb yesterday and got my bike dynoed and tuned today; with less than inspiring results. I was expecting to pick up another 4-5 hp more out of it (I have a MiG hi-mount exhaust) but instead only recieved an additional and might I say, pitiful 1 horsepower. This place that did it was advertised on Powercommander.com to be the premeire local dyno tuner. The service guys claimed to have tried different maps and the one on my bike now was the best suited to my exhaust. Is there something I'm missing? Where are these guys that are gaining 10 horses more??? How in the HELL did they do that besides having a full exhaust; can it make THAT much of a difference?? FUCK! I'm so pissed off right now! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
What else can I do guys but piss on myself for throwing away $360 (parts and tune)?
Alright, I'm leaving myself WIDE open. Take a whack at me guys, I deserve it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif



you paid 360 for nothing they are suppose to make a custom map for you

I got my bike dynoed today and had the custom map built. What an improvment!!! It went from 113 hp to126.54.http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/DSCN0165.JPG

Nice gains my man. I'm now thinking of that custom map idea... how much did you pay to get your bike custom mapped? The place around here said $200; is that a good price?

$200 seems to be the norm for a complete map. Sometimes you can get a top end map for a bit less but for street riding, actually all types of riding, it's usually worth the extra price.

Isn't this supposed to be the dyno room? Where are the maps?My bike only flat spots at 160 mph. I would like to get to 170 quicker. I guess I'll just get a 1000.

$200 is what I paid. Worth every penny. The ride home was as good as the day I bought it from the dealer. 126 may not be that high of a number, but from 113 it is a big difference.

Alright, I got the numbers of the DYNO scanned... my question is how do I post it?

upload the image.. then copy and paste it

Its not working. Its telling me only gif images can be uploaded. What now?

With a complete system and using the stock ecu with the stock map, I have noticed a difference in acceleration when I race other bikes I know very well. My bike pulls on my buddy's stock 750 who I race with all the time. This did not happen before ... we were always dead even through the gears. And now the front end of the bike always lifts in first as I rev it out. It has turned into more of an animal above 10,000 rpm. I'm very happy.

thats the way it should be! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Just got my 750 back from the tuner the base run was 132.8 with the Acropovic stock or after market filter map.After the custom map it pulled 136.8 and went 136.9 mph in 4th gear and this was on an 86 degree day with 90% humidity.Wish i would have gotten it dynoed before i put the exhaust and filter on it.Anyways i'm happy http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

I'm ordering the PCIIIusb next, any recomendations on who to get it from??? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Dustan_Smith said:
130 out of a 750. That will make my friend with his R1 cry. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



Now, that all depends on what year R1. A brand new one puts out 173HP, STOCK!!! I would rather have a Gixxer though, they are more comfortable and stable.

B

his R1 is an 03. He dynoed his a week before I did mine (on the same dyno, same tuner) and only had 130 on race fuel. My 750 had 126.5 on pump fuel. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Mine is not as good as some other 750s but might be better on a different dyno. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

I have a full yoshi on and i pushed 131hp on my last service

What all have you done? Just had a quick Dyno done and I'm at 120. I didn't think that was too bad as the 1000s getting tested were only at 135. I did see a ZX12 get 153. I've got a full Yosh TRS and PCIIIr. Granted, I am testing at 5200ft (checked the weather and it listed the pressure at 25.001in/hg). Anyone know the conversion formula for Sea Level?

pOOkey said:
Got about 6 hp over stock with a Micron full system and a PCII. I'll bet some people are going to claim 15-20hp which is total bullshit. If you get a custom map done you might be able to squeeze 10 hp out at the most. Remember the old saying "there's no replacement for displacement". Happy tuning.



iI got a 12.5hsp Gain from stock.
Yoshi bolt on RS3 PC3USB Custom map.
No filter yet because they simply are not available in Australia at this stage.
My tuner says if I had have got a micron bolt on I would have got further gains.
I have got the base run and the final run charts if anybody wants to see them.
Morale of the story? Custom map is the way to go.

Man I wish I could find my digital camera to take a pic of my recent dyno run http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

Anyhoo Base run was 123.77HP with 54.96 TQ 75.98 Degrees 29.94 in-Hg

After tune run was 130.71HP with 56.90 TQ 75.64 Degrees 29.87 In-Hg

The Torque Dip most 750's have stock from 2k-4k is gone smooth TQ band, Hp curve is sweet stright diagnol except at 8k and 10.5k where it jumps a little higher ( i mean slight also )

The AF line where the 03 750's should be Im almost on God Line through out!!!

Now Do I really care that I gained almost 7hp, well.... yes http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif But not as much as how smooth she is now.

best damn 200 bucks I spent in my life.

Mach 1 did the tune in Costa Mesa California.

For those that would like the map I am using, Drop a PM , I'll send it to you http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

03 750 Full Yosh Duplexed RS-3 CF, TRE, BMC Race Filter, Denso Iridiums. 91 Octane pump fuel.

SoCal_GSXR said:

The Torque Dip most 750's have stock from 2k-4k is gone smooth TQ band,



Do most 750`s have that dip?
I have to say mine was a pain in the arse until it was banished.

WIth a yoshi full tri oval system and a Yoshi EMS I am running 131hp on a 90 degree day and a really hot bike, and no wind.