First off, amazing tire. I havent had one issue with being fully planted although I hear when they go they go.

Ok so I have 3 track days and probably closer to 12 heat cycles on this set. I have two - three more track days this year and was wondering if I should take the risk of keeping/running the current set or just break out the wallet and order a new set.....thoughts?


The set is V-front, B-rear DOT:

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m343/iuhutch/mam1.jpg

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m343/iuhutch/mam2.jpg

Are those the Pilot Road tires? I hear they are great track tires and a very quit ride?

I am seeing some boggers on those, you are not fast enough. Not like you were running race pace on a stock bike.

No way 3 more on those, you are at the wear bar.

Are those the Pilot Road tires? I hear they are great track tires and a very quit ride?

I am seeing some boggers on those, you are not fast enough. Not like you were running race pace on a stock bike.

No way 3 more on those, you are at the wear bar.

They are not Pilot Roads they are Power One DOTs v front and b rear. The boggers say I am slow..? A CR at the track said the opposite: "you had a crazy pace based on your tire wear...."

Interesting....

I am getting some conflicting tire wear info from the folks at GDC regarding boogers.

I have no doubt you are fast. Are you part of the BPL racing team?

I have no doubt you are fast. Are you part of the BPL racing team?

BPL = Big Pussy Lips :dunno
:cheers

Very close, I trackday with Hutch and was just giving him sh*t. But not to much as he is faster than me and when provoked is known to lap people while getting it on the gopro.

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Are those the Pilot Road tires? I hear they are great track tires and a very quit ride?

I am seeing some boggers on those, you are not fast enough. Not like you were running race pace on a stock bike.

No way 3 more on those, you are at the wear bar.


No, you arent getting conflicting tire info, you just suck at understanding the info you are getting. There is not any excessive buildup on that tire. It actually looks about perfect from what I can see of it.

What you are refering to is when there is excessive rubber buildup on the surface of the tire not being scrubbed off....... usually due to a too hot tire, and not enough speed to clean it off. Has nothing to do with a riders ability, and more to do with improper pressure or suspension settings for said ability. But that was not your point now was it........ ;) . Not as slick as you think you are, and the game can not be won.

Not sure what joke you are trying to make on the Power Roads. I assume that you take issue with the fact some of us (me) recommend it as a street tire to most anyone on the street :dunno. So be it. It is an awesome street tire. It also CAN be riden by a trackday noob on the track as well.

IUhutch, is that the Competition or commercial version of the power one. It looks damn good. Dont be too concerned with the water sipes at the edge being nearly gone, from what they say it is supposed to go away fast, and give the "near slick technology". If it is the commercial, it is not effected by heat cycles as much, and I would not be concerned with it.

If it is the competition, be aware of it, but not overly concerned with it. It is probably past its opitmal life for sure, but that is not to say the tire is dangerous to ride on.

BUT, with all that said, if the tire is in your head already, change it. Confidence in it means everything. If you dont trust it, it can be the difference in trying to make a corner you can make, and giving up on it and running off......... even if you could have made it, but it wsa just in your head.

EDIT!!!

I missed you said it was a V front B rear combo. Disregard "commercial" information.

FWIW, also, I have only personally ran one set of P ONe tires. I was still using some old Power Races up until my last event. So I am not personally positive just HOW much of the siping (using it as a wear gauge) can go away before the tire goes away.

Best to go be feel really anyway. Does the tire still feel fine? Maybe carry a new one with ya just in case, and change it when it starts to feel like shit :dunno

No, you arent getting conflicting tire info, you just suck at understanding the info you are getting. There is not any excessive buildup on that tire. It actually looks about perfect from what I can see of it.

What you are refering to is when there is excessive rubber buildup on the surface of the tire not being scrubbed off....... usually due to a too hot tire, and not enough speed to clean it off. Has nothing to do with a riders ability, and more to do with improper pressure or suspension settings for said ability.

Not sure what joke you are trying to make on the Power Roads. I assume that you take issue with the fact some of us (me) recommend it as a street tire to most anyone on the street :dunno. So be it. It is an awesome street tire. It also CAN be riden by a trackday noob on the track as well.
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Hit up some WERA or CRA events as many of the top placing riders have tires covered in bogers.

The average Joe can't tell sh*t about how fast someone is by how the tire looks unless you are a Dave Moss. Way to many factors in fact some track surfaces eat tires and they come off looking like cold tears.

I understand things pretty well as my Mom told me I was smart.

As for the Power Roads, no comment.

I have been to more races than I care to count. Just because it happens, does not make it ideal. There are guys out there who can go faster than you or I can on a bone stock bike with 1980s Bias ply tires on them, does not mean they are getting good tire wear :lmao

And now just because I am not Dave Moss, I could not possibly know what I am talking about :lmao

I have been to more races than I care to count. Just because it happens, does not make it ideal. There are guys out there who can go faster than you or I can on a bone stock bike with 1980s Bias ply tires on them, does not mean they are getting good tire wear :lmao

And now just because I am not Dave Moss, I could not possibly know what I am talking about :lmao

Maybe you are Dave Moss's bastard child?

I never said you did know what you are talking about, it is that oil and water thing we have going.

Maybe I should have said average Jane instead of Joe.

My point was there are lot's of variables when it comes to reading tires.

It was not the "joe" part. It was the "you" part. :cheers No harm no foul

Damn I remember this same shit from another thread. I have no input on any of this but good reading though.

It appears that only 2 people CAN actually provide input which is even more sad :dissapointed. Got my info from WERA...thanks to those who have added value.

Just to answer my own question, my tires can handle another track day or two but just to be safe I am getting new set of rubber. They havent started slipping yet but are surely close and the wear bars are designed for a reason...which is why I am going with new rubber.

As far as rubber I am getting: Pirelli Diablo Trackday pros. Essentially these 'slicks' were made for the trackday rider and provide stellar grip and feedback along with duration....best yet - they do not require warmers (which I have anyways but pI refer a few warm up laps anyhow).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBjdhBmBbyA

I am hearing all kinds of great feedback on that tire.

Once the 180 is available I am going to give it a try.

My only concern is geomerty change as my bike is so dialed in on the P1's I do not want to go through having to get it dialed in again.

I can't tell if I'm not scrubbing these or if I do really need better tires. The balled up rubber is hanging off the end, clean on the tire face itself.

Running upper intermediate group, these are the stock ass BT016's, so the shitty version. 30/30 pressure

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Those tires look fine, the rubber at the edge is just where the tire is not always touching every turn of every lap, so yea it sortof is where it is not "scrubbing off" but not due to any issue really. That is common, and even on some tires (Power Race C front or Power One V front come to mind) rare to NOT have. If you reach the edge of the fronts on those two tires you are doing something serious for sure.

Those tires look fine, the rubber at the edge is just where the tire is not always touching every turn of every lap, so yea it sortof is where it is not "scrubbing off" but not due to any issue really. That is common, and even on some tires (Power Race C front or Power One V front come to mind) rare to NOT have. If you reach the edge of the fronts on those two tires you are doing something serious for sure.

True story I've Seen few get to the raw edge of a v!

True story I've Seen few get to the raw edge of a v!

I know this one guy who got to the edge of a V front on an off the hook lap and MAM. The guy is old and only runs a few off the hooks laps as the rest of the time he is horsing around.

His name was Dean.

A few times per weekend I get to the edge of a C or V front, but I am pretty sure it is for a very fleeting moment and I am damn near crashing :lmao., not like I am railing a turn at the edge, I think it is usually just on corner entry for a second....... cant really tell but it will be clean to the edge every now and then. It is sketchy as fuck when it happens though :eek

^^^ ok now i feel better lmao. I was able to get my 003 dot's to the edge but not my power one v :lmao

Not evne in the same ballpark as a 003. All the new Power one competition fronts are pretty steep. I hear the A and B fronts are almost the same as the old C front, and the V is even steeper i guess. The C was hard enough to get to the edge on, let alone the V

A few times per weekend I get to the edge of a C or V front, but I am pretty sure it is for a very fleeting moment and I am damn near crashing :lmao., not like I am railing a turn at the edge, I think it is usually just on corner entry for a second....... cant really tell but it will be clean to the edge every now and then. It is sketchy as fuck when it happens though :eek

You have to admit it is kind of fun the feeling you get when you are railing on the V hard and fast enough to get it to the edge.

Yes, I could not imagine doing more than once in a while as you would be flirting with a major get off.

I wonder if guys like Maldin would use the V to the edge regularly without issue.