when going into a curve:

acceleration?
de-accleration?
what rpm/gear?

I always want to de-accell in the corners.................I dont think thats right

-neil

You can probably get better answers than this but I usually down gear as I'm approaching the corner and just accelerate as much as I can to pull throught it. As far as RPM's go I just try to stay in the midrange so I'll be in the powerband as I exit the turn and I can get back up to speed. Somtimes I'll use a little rear brake at the turn entrance if I feel like I'm going a little to fast. Don't lock up the rear and never use your front brake in a turn!

when going into a corner get all your downshifting, braking, and body setup while your in an upright position. when you start to lean into the corner slowly roll on the gas and make sure you are looking through the turn as far as possible. getting on the gas will settle the bike and will allow you to be relaxed through the turn. even if you misjudge a turn and go in too hot, its better to be on the gas than on the brakes http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

BLK03GSXR said:
You can probably get better answers than this but I usually down gear as I'm approaching the corner and just accelerate as much as I can to pull throught it. As far as RPM's go I just try to stay in the midrange so I'll be in the powerband as I exit the turn and I can get back up to speed. Somtimes I'll use a little rear brake at the turn entrance if I feel like I'm going a little to fast. Don't lock up the rear and never use your front brake in a turn!



using your rear brake while in a turn is a good way to meet the pavement personally http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

mpdgsxr1000 said:

BLK03GSXR said:
You can probably get better answers than this but I usually down gear as I'm approaching the corner and just accelerate as much as I can to pull throught it. As far as RPM's go I just try to stay in the midrange so I'll be in the powerband as I exit the turn and I can get back up to speed. Somtimes I'll use a little rear brake at the turn entrance if I feel like I'm going a little to fast. Don't lock up the rear and never use your front brake in a turn!



using your rear brake while in a turn is a good way to meet the pavement personally http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



That's how they taught us in my MSF course and its way better than using the front. I try to never brake in a turn but if I'm not going balls to the wall just a little rear shouldn't hurt as long as it doesn't lock or slide.

BLK03GSXR said:

mpdgsxr1000 said:

BLK03GSXR said:
You can probably get better answers than this but I usually down gear as I'm approaching the corner and just accelerate as much as I can to pull throught it. As far as RPM's go I just try to stay in the midrange so I'll be in the powerband as I exit the turn and I can get back up to speed. Somtimes I'll use a little rear brake at the turn entrance if I feel like I'm going a little to fast. Don't lock up the rear and never use your front brake in a turn!



using your rear brake while in a turn is a good way to meet the pavement personally http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



That's how they taught us in my MSF course and its way better than using the front. I try to never brake in a turn but if I'm not going balls to the wall just a little rear shouldn't hurt as long as it doesn't lock or slide.




Well, ya better not tell that to almost any comptent pro racer, cause all of em use the Front brake, some will trail brake all the way to the Apex..

Trailbraking is Not something to do, unless your proficent at it, which takes lots of practice.

As for using the rear brake...you can, but only if you have a good feel for em..all it takes is a wee bit too much rear, and like MPD said...you'll be kissing the road...

Everyone keeps talking about using the rear brake in a turn, if you do and it locks up depending how fast you are going it could be all over for you. I have seen it happen before. Not too much fun when you have to turn around so you can go help your buddy pick his nuts up of the pavement. Oh well, I guess its all about preference, I guess all rear brake is just not for me.

When I am entering a corner, my eyes are fixed on the entrance to the corner. I can already see my line through the corner. For me, I can just feel when I am at the right speed to enter the corner. Sit up, knee out, half off the seat, lean, counter-steer. She'll get right down. Speed through the corner is the thing. Most people do want to decelerate. This is not good, especially if it is like a 70 mph corner. Letting off the throttle will loosen up the rear end -- not good.

If you've ever read "A Twist of the Wrist", it instructs that you want to maintain 60% of your traction on the rear tire and 40% on the front tire, respectively. So you need to be constantly accelerating to accomplish this. You don't have to accelerate hard, just gradually.

It is an uneasy feeling at first, but it becomes the best thing next to sex in the world.

-Jason

PS -- there are a few excellent books out there on track-type and track riding. You should check them out.

You guys certainly know your stuff. It does indeed take some time to get used to cornering and leaning. I'll have to agree w/ Skizit since I do the exact same thing when entering a corner. FYI, I love to LEAN!

ditto what hammer & mpd said.

if you're relatively inexperienced, or even if you do have some time under your belt, it's usually best to set your entrance speed before going into a turn and stay off the brakes once into the turn completely. but if you're racing, riding hard, or need to correct for coming in too fast, it's much, much, much better to use the front than the rear in a turn. It's truly amazing how much front brake you can use mid-turn without loosing the front. the key is smooth, progressive brake pressure.

Someone please explain trail braking. I have always heard of it bet never knew how it actually works and in what situation you would do said practice.

Thanks

dre-z said:
Someone please explain trail braking. I have always heard of it bet never knew how it actually works and in what situation you would do said practice.

Thanks



It's been covered in this forum, and in the track days forum....

Pretty simple to explain...not so simple to do....so, use extrem caution when practicing this.

Trailbraking is a matter of applying the front brakes, while going into, and sometimes all the way to the apex...IMHO this requires much skill from tne rider, as it's easy to lose the front end if your not doing it just right...and the street isn't a good place to practice doing it..

Trail braking allows the rider to enter a turn at much higher speed, than if he/she enterd the standard way...downshift, shift your weight, and brake before entering the turn.

Trail braking simply put is braking while you are in the corner. Can be either front, rear, or both. Not something you need to do much of on the street unless you like to wreck.

Honestly, for street riding, everything (braking, downshifts, body position) should be done BEFORE you get to the corner. Better to enter too slow than too fast. For God's sake you're on the street.

If you're serious about learning how to ride do a quality school. Trackdays are probably the next best alternative. You learn so much faster on the track, provided that you want to learn. It's rather easy to find someone to answer questions as most trackday promoters have instructors who are usually racers.

I agree on trackdays, but there are those of us who don't have the money and the only place to learn to trail brake is on the street. As long as you're carefull, it's not impossible to get the hang of trail braking on decent roads, but it is quite dangerous. Knock on wood, I haven't eatin ishh yet.
I'm sure you guys disagree, but we do what we can.

#1 NO rear brake in corners...if you want to use the rear to slow down, use engine braking (smoothly)
As for trail braking, think of it as a way to keep your suspension calm. while braking the forks will be compressed. when cornering they will be compressed. You don't want to go from compressed (brakes) to extended (setting up) to compressed (cornering).
Gently release the brakes as your entering the corner to keep the forks compressed.
again, this is BEST learned on the track whenever possible...even better with an instructor vs. open track time.

These guys are all referring in one way to the Slow Look Lean Roll Approach...google those words and you'll find a few good articles, such as http://more.sportbikes.com/ezine/articles.php?articleId=57

Downshift and break to get your speed correct then lean and apply the throttle. This takes all the weight off the front wheel and sets it to the back of the bike. So now you will also have more traction on your exit. As for the rear brake thing,rear brakes are about useless, I mean if they actually did anything then they would have two calipers in the back too. Most new riders think the front brake is evil and are scared they are going to eat shite if they use it, when in reality its the rear brake that will bring you to your knees.

i remember using my rear brake in a turn....it was decreasing radius and looking sketchy. i'd rather use a TINY TINY bit of rear than fool with the front at all. keep in mind this is when i am ALREADY IN the turn.

ideally, braking, downshifting, and body position should be set before countersteering...thne the 60/40 is applied getting on the throttle ASAP after turn in...60/40 is NOT MUCH ACCEL at all...often not even 1/4 throttle will do it.

decel in a turn is BAD BAD BAD tho it feels good to do it in town and when yer a newbie it is a really bad habit. get your speed on exit...not entry. see if you can string togeher a few turns where you stay off th ebrakes entirely. that should help you gauge entry and turn speed better.

googs

trail braking is an super advanced technique...it really only applies when you are going all out. on teh street you never realyl have to brake so much that you have to begin your turn while still on them. the best thing is to be spot on when choosing entry speed...and just carrying it through the turn while keeping your revs climbing slightly. if the revs fall or stay steady...then you aren't getting the 60/40 that maximizes your tire adhesion.

googs

Set up before the turn via down shifting trying to stay in the power band. Even though the down shift probably decelerated you enough, tap the front brake to let that cutie on the cell phone behind you know that you slowed down. Accelerate very slightly throughout the turn (don't want to over-do to a point that you might think of backing off the throttle while still in the turn).

I think it is funny that every time someone asks the question about proper form entering a turn. 1/2 if not more of the discussion is on trail braking. Since we are speaking about trail braking, why don't we also discuss sliding the rear through the turn as well.

For non racers/trackers trail braking should not really be a concern. Focus on getting setup properly before entering the turn so you don't have to worry about the brakes. Braking through the turn is bad, you only have limited contact patch on your tire due to leaning the motorcycle over through the turn. When you pull on the front brake it shifts the motorcycle and your bodyweight forward. This upsets the suspension and gives even less of a contact patch for the rear wheel and makes a slide out very easy to happen. Also hitting the brakes makes the bike want to stand upright, making things worse for completing the turn. Steping on the rear brake is a bad idea as well, more then likely as your stepping on the rear brake your chopping the throtle, right? This will cause a weight transfer forward, again making the rear wheel very light, light rear = very good chance of locking up the rear wheel, so now you've got something else to worry about, speed and a locked up rear wheel.

Much of motorcycling is very counter intuitive. You think to turn right you would turn the handlebars towards the right, just like you do in a car. Wrong. Countersteering, turning the opposite direction of where you want to go turns the motorcycle. Coming in hot into a turn is another one of those counter intuitive items. In your head you will think....going too fast, must brake.... Actually what you really want to do is crack the throttle open a little and lean the motorcycle more and do it quickly. This is the best way to actually survive going in too hot, it will keep your suspension from complicating the turn and keep the best tire contact patch with the road.

Ok with that said the best way to avoid having to use the brakes is to setup the turn correctly and use proper form.

Here is what you want to do coming into a turn.

1. let up on the throttle and brake, don't let the engine braking slow you down use the brakes, the engine is there to propell you not stop you. Finsh braking before you start to initiate the turn.

2. Shift if appropriate be sure to rev match the throttle to avoid having the rear wheel lock up. You want to downshift so that you are in the powerbad of the highest gear you can be in based on your speed. This will limit the amount of upshifting you need to do through the turn. Try pulling the clutch all the way in entering a slow turn, it feels like your out of control.

3. move your bodyweight into the turn. You don't have to hang off but lean forward and in the direction of the turn. You can pivot your pelvis around the tank and slide your ass half off the seat to change your center of gravity, you don't have to lean the bike as much when you do this and it conserves traction.

4. Look through the turn, look to where you want to go not where you are now. Take a peek at some racer photos and look at where their heads are facing(no where near where the bike is going they are looking through to the exit). This step is very very important for your question because speed is how you interpret it. For example if a car is a 5 miles away and going 100 miles an hour, at five miles of distance the car appears to be coming on you slowly, as the car is 50 feet from you it is going fast as hell. When your riding if you look at your front wheel or at the road just in front of it, it gives the illussion of going much much faster then you really are and it can cause serious panic. Look as far through the turn as you can, in all sports your body wants to go where your eyes are looking. This also works for hazards in the road, look forward to where you want the bike to be to avoid the obstacle not fixate on the obsticle because you will tend to move towards it.

5. Countersteer the bike into the turn, push the right handle bar forward to turn the bike to the right. You also want to practice the delayed apex when riding on the street, this mean you go all the way to the left most part of the road before making a right turn. This limits the amount of time you need to be leaned over and the amount of lean angle you need. Also it allows you to see more around to corner for obsticals or cars coming. (Again counter intuitive).

6. As you start to turn crack the throttle open a little bit. This will give you more traction and keep your suspension set properly. You want to keep your speed constant through the turn and by the act of turning you are causing friction with your tires and slowing the bike down, you crack the throttle slightly to keep your speed constant or to increase it slightly. You do not open up the throttle at this point in the turn, just crack it open.

7. As you pass the apex of the turn and begin to straighten the motorcycle up you can open the throttle more and pick up your speed.

Z-man

??5. Countersteer the bike into the turn, push the right handle bar forward to turn the bike to the right.

shouldn't it be turn the handle bar slight left to turn right and and vise versa?

GixxinJay said:
??5. Countersteer the bike into the turn, push the right handle bar forward to turn the bike to the right.

shouldn't it be turn the handle bar slight left to turn right and and vise versa?



I'm pretty sure what you are describing is the same thing. If you are sitting on your motorcycle and you are only using your right hand, how would you steer the handlebar to the left? You would push with your right. You could push with your right and pull with your left but I find that I receive much better feedback from the bike and better control using one hand to do the work. You push with the right rather then pull with the left because you have more strength pushing then you do pulling. How much can you bench press? How much can you pull doing a bent over row? How much easier is it to push a couch up the stairs as it is to pull that couch up the stairs.

Z

Z

GixxinJay said:
??5. Countersteer the bike into the turn, push the right handle bar forward to turn the bike to the right.

shouldn't it be turn the handle bar slight left to turn right and and vise versa?



I'm pretty sure what you are describing is the same thing. If you are sitting on your motorcycle and you are only using your right hand, how would you steer the handlebar to the left? You would push with your right. You could push with your right and pull with your left but I find that I receive much better feedback from the bike and better control using one hand to do the work. You push with the right rather then pull with the left because you have more strength pushing then you do pulling. How much can you bench press? How much can you pull doing a bent over row? How much easier is it to push a couch up the stairs as it is to pull that couch up the stairs.

Z

Z



When you want to go left you are pushing left . Actually pushing the left handlebar so that the front wheel is pointing right. That is countersteer.

GixxinJay said:
??5. Countersteer the bike into the turn, push the right handle bar forward to turn the bike to the right.

shouldn't it be turn the handle bar slight left to turn right and and vise versa?



I'm pretty sure what you are describing is the same thing. If you are sitting on your motorcycle and you are only using your right hand, how would you steer the handlebar to the left? You would push with your right. You could push with your right and pull with your left but I find that I receive much better feedback from the bike and better control using one hand to do the work. You push with the right rather then pull with the left because you have more strength pushing then you do pulling. How much can you bench press? How much can you pull doing a bent over row? How much easier is it to push a couch up the stairs as it is to pull that couch up the stairs.

Z

Z



When you want to go left you are pushing left . Actually pushing the left handlebar so that the front wheel is pointing right. That is countersteer.




ya thats what z was saying. When it comes to turning you guys just take it slow, and come in to turns slow at first. then next time a little faster, and eventually you will know the turn enough to push it. Then you can use that in other turns that are similar. you really just have to get out and ride, and just take it slow day by day. Dont try to get max lean angle your first time in the canyon, instead just practice on geting a little lower everytime you get out there. And just stay in your comfort zone, because once you leave that zone thats when you panic and shit happens. The only time i use the brake in the canyon is to setup the turn, and half the time i dont even need to brake. Avoid braking unless you do it before the turn, as a beginner you should not even try trail braking. You will have plenty of time to do that in the future, but if you try it now you might not have a future.

After reading this I am so confused.

This is a perfect excuse for me to go back to Keith Code’s school again.

To turn left, you either pull with the right hand, or push with the left.....Pretty simple....No..? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

To turn left, you either pull with the right hand, or push with the left.....Pretty simple....No..? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif


in my experience it's actually better to do both... Take a turn just "pushing" with one hand, then just "pull" with the other, then do it over again but push and pull.... It's amazing how much quicker you can flick the thing with both hands at work... The ONLY exception I've found to that rule is that an inexperienced rider tends to be "afraid" of leaning the bike too much too quick.... So they tend to "fight" the lean... Pushing with one hand, but RESISTING with the other... If someone is having a problem with that, I think it's best to have the concentrate on RELAXING the outside hand and just pushing with the inside...

To turn left, you either pull with the right hand, or push with the left.....Pretty simple....No..? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif


in my experience it's actually better to do both... Take a turn just "pushing" with one hand, then just "pull" with the other, then do it over again but push and pull.... It's amazing how much quicker you can flick the thing with both hands at work... The ONLY exception I've found to that rule is that an inexperienced rider tends to be "afraid" of leaning the bike too much too quick.... So they tend to "fight" the lean... Pushing with one hand, but RESISTING with the other... If someone is having a problem with that, I think it's best to have the concentrate on RELAXING the outside hand and just pushing with the inside...



Geez...countsteering is sumpin I never think of...so you may be right, I'll have to check and see how I do it on my next track day.....which is the 31 st of this month.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I prefer to lock up the back end and slide it out as I set up for the turn MX racer style. Takes some skill but it sure is fun. I remember watching Anthony Gobert doing that at Daytona tire testing several years back and I'm like, I gotta try that when I go out, he made it look easy.

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In motorcycle safety courses, most times they train you on obstacle courses. You come to a line and must veer right or left within the next 15 feet or so depending on what the instructor says. They teach you if you want to go left push hard left, and if you want to emergency right push hard right on the handlebar.
Basically, whichever you push will make the bike lean in to that side and is one (of many)good evasive practices.
Come to think of it, that course was pretty damn fun..

So that principle carries over into all aspects of riding/steering.

so basically, you dont want to lean to the left side, and pull with ur left hand? thats what makes you dip the front end and eat it? so in other words you want to push the wheel the opposite way of which you are leaning so that the front wheel keeps max countersteer/traction so that when u come out of the turn its easier for you to flick the bike to the other side or get it upright quicker so u can floor it...

am i thinking correctly?...

so basically, you dont want to lean to the left side, and pull with ur left hand? thats what makes you dip the front end and eat it? so in other words you want to push the wheel the opposite way of which you are leaning so that the front wheel keeps max countersteer/traction so that when u come out of the turn its easier for you to flick the bike to the other side or get it upright quicker so u can floor it...

am i thinking correctly?...


Lean left, push left, go left. Push left as in: push on left handlebar. Actually, you are pushing the front wheel to turn to the right.

Ya mean you don't remember one of us yelling at you "SLOW,LOOK,PRESS,ROLL" MUHAHAH. countersteering is still somewhat of a mystery on what is actually happening, one would call it "deflection" of the tire while another would call it "the gyro effect". it makes for a great debate amoung Riders. I even had a guy at the track show me how to use my heels to try to fine tune cornering, don't know if it does anything maybe someone can clear that one up for me please.

my 2 cents.....

set up your body position, push your weight back, grip the tank with your legs. brake and gear down . Blipping the throttle to match the engine and rear wheel speed, thus keeping the back end stable. keep your weight OFF the handle bars. apply pressure to your inside foot and the bike will start to lean in. keep braking into the corner, transfer your weight from your inside foot to the inside of your (outside) leg. ie the more you lean the more you apply pressure to the tank with your outside leg. SLOWLY, releasing the brake match the road speed with throttle and start winding it out.... clutch it up into a wheelie!! ha ha ha!! at all times keep as much of your weight off the bars as you can manage... seems odd at first but after a while you will notice the difference in stability of your bike and the rider! thus allowing you greater cornering speeds in a safer way..

hope it helps!!

if you're worried 'bout locking up your rear while trail braking just use 2-3% maybe 5% throttle...rear won't lock if the power is on...

Ill come into it adjusting speed then get into the lean. And most of the time accletate out. And im not using the rear brake.

I find it hard to believe people have this much trouble with countersteering. It's a simple concept that should be FULLY understood prior to even sitting on the bike let alone riding it.

Now...onto my problem. I was scrubbin off my tire today (just got a new one) slowly leaning in as new tire was being used. Once I got the tire completely used up (I think I had a mm left on the right side...) On the way home I increased my corner speeds and thus how fast I drop into the lean.

In my neighorhood, you figure most of the corners are normally about 20 mph. Well I took one at about 25 mph, turning a bit later then normal so that I could drop the bike into the corner a bit quicker. The front tire felt like it was going to push out so I suspended the lean and then slowly leaned it again. When I got home I checked the front to see if there was any signs of pushing...and there was nothing.

I used to have problems with this before when I just started "leaning" my bike at faster speeds. Is it normal for the bike to feel like it's "dropping" or pushing the front even though it's not? This probably sounds like a stupid quesiton. When I'm going fast...say like in a sweeper and I slam the bike over I don't have the same sensation as I do when I'm trying to slam the bike over (relative to the turn) at slower speeds. When I get into really tight backroads I'm always the slowest one out there because I get uncomfortable on the tight quick turns because of this feeling. On the wider turns...no problem and I'm back to the front group for the most part.

Where in the turn is it pushing the front?

Countersteering is due to two effects.
1 tyre profile
The profile of the rear tyre, is such that when the bike leans over it runs on a smaller radius and actually turns the bike from the rear.The more it leans over, the faster the bike turns.
When you push forward on the left bar,the front tyre points right and the weight of the bike is deflected around the steering head to the left.
The bike "falls"/ leans to the left, and thus turns to the left due to the shape of the rear tyre.
This weight deflection is the reason trail braking (front or rear) is so difficult to get right, because you are balancing braking forces vs turning forces vs traction (IF ya get it right).

2 Spinning Wheels (gryo)
The above effect is counteracted by gyro forces.
At higher speeds, each wheel act like a spinning top so, the faster the bike goes the straighter the bike runs, and is harder to turn.
The faster you go, harder you need to push, to get the bike to turn,
Lighter wheels turn quicker.
Smaller diameter wheels turn quicker, but are less stable.

Bike is more stable under slight acceleration.
Keep your head up and look to where you want the bike to go.( not AT the turn but through it)
Dunno if that helps but it's a simple(ish) explanation.

RE original post
Bike is more stable under slight acceleration.
Use whatever gear gives drive throughout the corner, while still allowing you to have a "feel" for traction.
IE too high a gear, bike will bog down, too low may spin rear and/ or run out of revs before exit.
Numbnutz (Good AUssie name)

NO BACK BRAKE IN CORNERS. i've almost lost it a lot of time using the back brake. fuck that i'll let off the gas before i use the back brake dude.

Dragging the rear through hairpin or slow downhill corners helps smooth out throttle inputs.
(less jerky), but ya gotta be sensible about it.
I tend to use a LITTLE rear brake on some bikes, to smooth the transition into a turn at higher speeds.
Probably an old habit from riding dirt bikes.
Rolling off the throttle will tend to send the bike wide in a turn, not good.

The smoother you are the faster you go. I seen a lot of guys charge hard but the smooth slower looking guy is always passing them in the turns.

When I am entering a corner, my eyes are fixed on the entrance to the corner. I can already see my line through the corner. For me, I can just feel when I am at the right speed to enter the corner. Sit up, knee out, half off the seat, lean, counter-steer. She'll get right down. Speed through the corner is the thing. Most people do want to decelerate. This is not good, especially if it is like a 70 mph corner. Letting off the throttle will loosen up the rear end -- not good.

If you've ever read "A Twist of the Wrist", it instructs that you want to maintain 60% of your traction on the rear tire and 40% on the front tire, respectively. So you need to be constantly accelerating to accomplish this. You don't have to accelerate hard, just gradually.

It is an uneasy feeling at first, but it becomes the best thing next to sex in the world.

-Jason

PS -- there are a few excellent books out there on track-type and track riding. You should check them out.





IF YA ask me this is the perfect answer n how i have always ridin since i really learned how to ride hard n fast track type ridin like 12 years ago!! this is the right answer imo!!

yeah that post put it all out there for me too. gave me some things to think about when i get off work and im heading home. thing i find funny is this original post is from 03/04. good to see it could stay alive for a year and a half. but seriously it is nice for the rooks to read. we need all the help we can get.

I don't think the MSF should ever mentioned around GDC again. It's almost useless. But I guess its a necessary evil for some.

There is always more to learn dood.
Even Rossi needs a coach to get the best out of his prodigious talent.

As with anything done at speed, cornering takes practice to get right. Yes, you can trail brake deep into corners... with practice. You can also use your rear brake to tighten your line mid corner... with practice. See a trend? Panic combined with ANY reponse can ruin a ride. The reason a lot of people lowside going into corners is because the front tire gets overloaded from being either on the brakes or being off throttle, both of which load the front end. If you're skilled and bold (read, DESPARATE) enough you can stay off the brakes all together and scrub off speed using the front tire.

One reason you want to be accelerating, or at least at maintenance throttle mid corner, is because it settles the bike and allows you to monitor grip mid corner and at the exit. Of course, you'll be looking deep into the corner so that you can see that exit, then you just roll on the throttle and ride away.

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BTW Your RPM will be dictated by your particular bike and it's powerband. Be Safe.

i agree with lean angle. i am a new rider and i have found that my 05 750 slows awesome with CONTROLLED front brake sqeeze while in a turn. i personnally like it because the rear
slows me way slower. best bet, ride the road a few times before you go crazy on it.

Always ride the road before you charge. Even if you know it already.