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-R55-
06-06-2010, 11:07 PM
Wuzzup to all those GixxeR riders out there.
Just to start off, I'm kinda young, but my heart is fixed on Gixxers LOL. Later on in this thread I'll tell you how old I am :p.

Ok so, I have researched for many, many months and weeks and put alot of time into motorcycles.
It's a dangerous ride, but nothing else can compare to it... just too good.
I've been looking at Gsxr 600s K7 models beacause the front looks different. And I like it better :frantic The other bike that was taken in consideration was the R6 Yamaha. But LOL... Idk why... the front reminds me of an alien haha.
LOL ok moving on...

I'm tall for my age right now and I have a feeling I might grow up even taller (hint to my age :p). Do you think a Gsxr 600 is good for a guy 6'' or higher?
Well, I've seen most people here respond to previous threads asking for heights and age and the riders are all 6'' or more. So I'm guessing thats fine.

Now the other problem is that I'm a beginner rider. I mean for sure I will take the safety courses but maybe not the Motorcycle Safety Course...maybe just some guy who gives courses and ask him to teach me the proper ways to riding safe.
Oh and also, I want my first bike to be a gxxr 600 k7. I know what your going to say " Get some xperience " and I know, obviously I am and won't get a motorcycle until I'm fully ready. so no worries aha:P

Lol ok so im only 15 :P Ahaha *big suprise*. :ohmy
But you guys have no idea how passionate I am about motorcycles. :P So cut me some slack, plus I took my time out to write to all you great guys and this is my first thread/post. :burnout

JPBlomgren
06-07-2010, 12:38 AM
If I started riding at 15 I would have killed myself. I came really close a couple times, and I started riding at 18 after nearly three years of driving.

So how long have you been driving? What's your record like? What country are you in?

gixxerjorge
06-07-2010, 09:53 AM
at 15 you have no business on any 600 sportbike. get a 250 ninja or similar and get some experience.

Felix
06-07-2010, 10:14 AM
at 15 you have no business on any 600 sportbike. get a 250 ninja or similar and get some experience.

Ditto, or get a dirt bike and learn how to ride and crash on it. It is a lot less expensive when you crash. Even if you just knock a modern sportbike over, & you will, it will cost a good bit of $$$. By starting off smaller, you might just be able to afford the insurance that way as well. But chances are you will get what you want and disreguard what everone tries to tell you.


$.02

Sometimes I think all this advice just goes in vain, because no one is ever smarter than a teenager :rolleyes2 Oh well sadder but wiser is the future.

oldfart01
06-07-2010, 11:50 AM
+1 on a dirt bike or a dual sport bike. You will have a ton of fun, save a lot of repair bills. In the long run you will be a much better rider.

coopgt1
06-07-2010, 01:28 PM
What the guys above said. The odds are you can't even afford the insurance for the bike . Depending on where you live it will be outragous . About 1/3 of the riders on this forum probably pay over 1000 a year can you afford that & the bike payments ?

What do you parents think ? When I was 17 I could barely afford my car and insurace let a lone a bike .

Give it time grasshopper.

-R55-
06-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Hm LOL i think i got the wrong message in some of your heads :P. What i meant to say was, I haven't got any riding experience yet and neither do i think i will be any time soon LOL. I'm just focusing on studies and need to get a job that will pay for it. I live in Canada and by the way can someone tell me what's the age for your M1 here? Cuz I've been hearing some weird things ahaha :P. And how much would the insurance be here if i take some courses and show them that I'm not a dumbass. I am really excited about this; as you can tell ( I'm planning two years ahead! LOL)

But some of you have said to get a dirt bike. Hm. The idea seems good, but will I be able to ride it? Like, is it legal and everything for a fifteen year old boy to be riding a dirt bike on the roads?. Plus how much do they even cost? P.s I live in Toronto ( well around there ).

-R55-
06-07-2010, 06:11 PM
LOOL i feel kinda cool cuz you guys are all like 20 years or older and im like a young noob :P ahha.

Pro-Lux-Racing
06-07-2010, 06:23 PM
Get the 600 and put training wheels on it. :biggrin

LynnM
06-07-2010, 06:57 PM
From what I hear about Canada insurance it is VERY expensive and not many options. When the time come look for a used bike and just carry liability
Don't they have size restrictions for new riders like UK

jfm02silverado
06-07-2010, 08:37 PM
You can ride a dual sport bike on the street. It's basically a dirt bike with lights & blinkers. My vote would be for the ninja 250. The newer ones are nice looking and cheap.

indcan
06-07-2010, 08:44 PM
Hm LOL i think i got the wrong message in some of your heads :P. What i meant to say was, I haven't got any riding experience yet and neither do i think i will be any time soon LOL. I'm just focusing on studies and need to get a job that will pay for it. I live in Canada and by the way can someone tell me what's the age for your M1 here? Cuz I've been hearing some weird things ahaha :P. And how much would the insurance be here if i take some courses and show them that I'm not a dumbass. I am really excited about this; as you can tell ( I'm planning two years ahead! LOL)

But some of you have said to get a dirt bike. Hm. The idea seems good, but will I be able to ride it? Like, is it legal and everything for a fifteen year old boy to be riding a dirt bike on the roads?. Plus how much do they even cost? P.s I live in Toronto ( well around there ).


LEAFS SUCK! i had to :lol

but seriously insurance might be an issue for you i'm in BC and i'm older than you my insurance is kinda expensive you need to research a bit more about Ontario

-R55-
06-07-2010, 10:55 PM
Get the 600 and put training wheels on it. :biggrin

ahahah. that actually crossed my mind once LOOL. not actually gonna do it :wait

-R55-
06-07-2010, 10:57 PM
From what I hear about Canada insurance it is VERY expensive and not many options. When the time come look for a used bike and just carry liability
Don't they have size restrictions for new riders like UK

I'm sorry I don't really know, but definately something I'm going to look into in this week

-R55-
06-07-2010, 10:59 PM
Lol ok , so are you guys suggesting I get a ninja 250 when I turn 16?. I think that would be a smart idea. Because dirt bikes where I live just look plain weird LOL!: P

-R55-
06-07-2010, 11:03 PM
And don't worry, im not those stuck up types. If you make sense to me, and proove your point then I'll do as you say :D

CaNiBuSCK
06-08-2010, 08:40 AM
Yeah bro, take it slow ...... i've seen a bunch of first time riders go right for a sixxer or 750, prob cuz there more concerned about how they look, and most of them end up crashing within the first month or so. If bikes not totalled they usually sell, take a loss, and go into the "im never riding again" phase. Do it right, get something older and smaller to get started, then WHEN you drop it you wont really care, its part of learning. I taught my wife how to ride from nothing now she got a 07 sixxer and decent skills. Patience and seat time, dont rush into it. Even a 600 is a pretty high powered bike and it will kick your ass if you let it. :cheers

leveltwo
06-08-2010, 01:45 PM
my first motorcycle was at 18...get some experience in a car for a few years until you become a more experienced driver, then think about a motorcycle...

-R55-
06-08-2010, 03:51 PM
Alright, but driving a motorcycle is so much more easier than a car ( in my opinion ).
So for now I'm going to try to find a decent dirt bike or something to ride for now and just learn on. Anyone got any suggestions what I can get and where i can ride it?.

nj01_6
06-08-2010, 07:22 PM
Alright, but driving a motorcycle is so much more easier than a car ( in my opinion ).

You're 15. I'm guessing you don't have a driver's license, and you haven't ridden a motorcycle yet. With no experience in either, how did you come to that opinion?

Upgrade
06-08-2010, 07:33 PM
Go with a Dual Sport bike, easier to learn and fun as hell to ride.

sleesteve
06-08-2010, 07:46 PM
i would like to say get u an old 250 of some sorts can be a cruiser etc. ride in a controled environment and learn controls and bike first. then ease into ridding on the pavement and do it a little at a time. then sell said old bike and purchase something of standards but nothing with to much power as with time comes skill and ability. also if u are like me with champangene taste and beer money take it easy. also good luck cause rememeber u have family that cares and it aint u it is everyone else u have to worry about.

a.leopard
06-08-2010, 08:07 PM
Buy something like TS50R/etc. Cheap, fun, safe and legal

lesreynolds
06-10-2010, 10:08 AM
Don't know if this helps but I'm in Calgary and well my insurance for fully covered everything including nob gobblers kicking over bikes and such was only $777 for the year. Now that said I am 31 my GF on the other had who is 27 her insurance for the same thing I got was around $1,500. Now people will debate if you need full coverage, fire, theft, vandalism etc, and that's totally up to you I myself go for everything so I know I'm covered on anything. Although with your age at what it is I wouldn't be surprised if you were looking around the same price as my GF for a full coverage on a 600 since we both have K9 600's. Although I can tell you if you decided on getting a 650R Ninja or 250 the insurance drops madly, for some reason at least here in Calgary the 650r Ninja isn't classed the same as other 600 bikes and it was dirt cheap to insure for the whole year like 500 bucks or something crazy. So I'm sure going to a 250 would even drop it more you would think.

Although in the end it doesn't matter what bike you get if its a 250 to a 600 if you ride like a idiot then ya you will crash and hurt/kill yourself. I myself bought a 600 for my first bike and didn't have a problem with it, I know the power of the bike and don't drive like a total douche.

One thing I will say though when I took my bike school we got to ride on the 250r Ninja's and they were a shit load of fun, very light and you are able to whip them around like nothing which really helps you get the feel of the bike and get comfortable with it. Larger bikes not so much of the flipping, or well you can just not as easy as a 250, but you know they aren't the most expensive bike in the world I think I saw the new ones here in Calgary for about $5,000 for a 2010. So one that's a few years old would most probably be pretty cheap on the wallet, plus fun to start out on.

I myself would totally buy a 250r if I was just 100% driving it around the city since they have amazing gas mileage, although from booting around on one riding on highways and interstates and long road trips......well I think they are too light and small. But that's just my view on that I'm sure there are people on this site that have taken 250s on road trips not saying it cant be done just I wouldn't do it. Plus I'm not a tall tall guy just have a larger shoulder frame and well sitting on a 250 I look like a monkey humping a banana.

Well that's my wall of text post on that. Hopefully there is something constructive in this bunch of blabber you can take with you.

MikeHump
06-10-2010, 10:28 AM
Go with a 250 first. If you really want a bit more power, then start off on an SV650 but don't go any bigger than that. Yes, it has a bigger engine than a gixxer 600 but it doesn't produce nearly as much power and it's a smaller bike overall...better beginner bike. I chose a K7 600 for my first bike and it was a bad choice. One that I had to deal with, so I had to learn on it, and unfortunately crash on it. It's not a bad bike by any means but I'm sure I would be a much better rider if I would have started small. And my wallet would be a bit heavier if I would have went with somethin smaller.

-R55-
06-10-2010, 07:35 PM
lool pocket bike ! AHHA dont hate ; )

-R55-
06-10-2010, 07:36 PM
and i have driven

dJt3xtbook
06-10-2010, 07:58 PM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here.

My first bike was a K1 Gix 600 and I was fine, but an important difference is that I was 18 at the time and already had 2 years of driving under my belt. This may not mean much to some, but I only drove manual vehicles which helped me get very comfortable with clutch/throttle control. In addition, I had the pleasure of driving many high powered manual vehicles before my first bike purchase, so I had a very high level of respect for horsepower and what it's capable of. I practiced restraint and never really pushed myself to the limit.

Even with the car experience above, I never had any 2 wheel experience besides tooling around in the parking lot during my 2 day motorcycle course. As such, I was put in some close calls that could have been avoided with MATURITY and EXPERIENCE. At the end of the day, I really think it would be a better choice to just start off on a 250 or SV. Better to get the kinks out on a bike that you care less about. The fear of dropping an immaculate/expensive sportbike may prevent you from advancing your riding skills.

lesreynolds
06-11-2010, 09:29 AM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here.

My first bike was a K1 Gix 600 and I was fine, but an important difference is that I was 18 at the time and already had 2 years of driving under my belt. This may not mean much to some, but I only drove manual vehicles which helped me get very comfortable with clutch/throttle control. In addition, I had the pleasure of driving many high powered manual vehicles before my first bike purchase, so I had a very high level of respect for horsepower and what it's capable of. I practiced restraint and never really pushed myself to the limit.

Even with the car experience above, I never had any 2 wheel experience besides tooling around in the parking lot during my 2 day motorcycle course. As such, I was put in some close calls that could have been avoided with MATURITY and EXPERIENCE. At the end of the day, I really think it would be a better choice to just start off on a 250 or SV. Better to get the kinks out on a bike that you care less about. The fear of dropping an immaculate/expensive sportbike may prevent you from advancing your riding skills.

I agree. Just the ability to understand a clutch and gas and break etc from a manual car helped leaps and bounds when it came to driving a bike for me. In our class there were a lot of people that just couldn't get the concept of that down since they just drove automatic cars. I think when it boils down in the end you can judge yourself and know if your going to ride like a moron on a 600 and should limit yourself to a 250 until your more mature or just not as open to risk. For example on my bike there are many times on the highway I just want to go like a bat out of hell and maybe about 20 years ago I would of done this now I just think about it and drive normally and not like I am on some track trying to beat a world record speed lap for driving across the city. I am a firm believer that you know what you will do on a bike, plus you can drive stupid and crash on a 250 just as easy also so really in the end choice is yours just don't make a bad one you will regret.

dJt3xtbook has another good fact and that's dropping a 250 vs a 600. huge difference in repair bills.....even if you would bother repairing the 250 since its about 1/4 the cost of some 600's. Now one other thing you must keep in mind is the weight of the bike, the 250 is a feather compared to these 600 and liter bikes.

On a side note damn dJt3xtbook 2/3 bikes stolen!? That fucking sucks man, you need to equip your rides with some sort of taser system..lol. I'm sure you have seen these before but if not check out these disk breaks they are pretty sweet, to rounded to cut and well they wouldn't be pushing your bike away they would have to carry it so if they did decide to leave with it at least you made them work for it.

http://www.xenasecurity.com/home/current/lock/

-R55-
06-12-2010, 01:30 PM
Lol you guys really took your time out to write some neat stuff . Appreciate it alot! so ive decided this is what im going to do :
1) Get a car liscence ( drive around a manual car so i know how to shift and learn the clutch )
2) Buy a dirt/250r (which ever one comes cheaper)
3) Take a safety course
4) Ride around and learn until im fully ready to move on to my dream bike ( k7 gsxr 600 !)
Thanks guys!!

Power_House750
06-13-2010, 03:03 PM
+1 for heart. Myself I bought a gixxer 750, I learned to respect it real fast.
I grew up on dirt bikes and I hadn't been on a bike in like 10 years. I started to get the itch so I bought the 750. WOW, such a different experience. I felt like a nub all over again. with you only being 15/16 the 250 or street/dirt would be a great start and plus you can go off road. :biggrin . The 250's are great, my nephew has a ninja 250 and hell I even take it out sometimes. it's a great bike.

Just remember to respect the machine, ride safe and experience will come in due time. :punk

Gixxer Kat
06-14-2010, 09:41 AM
I gotta agree with all the advice everyone else is giving. Start small then go bigger.
I know I have been riding for two years now n have crashed n totalled my first bike n put myself in the hospital. the second bike i low sided n had some rash on my @$$, LOL!!!
Comeing from an older brother as i have two younger siblings who seem to do everything i do, well they were in love with bikes as well when i brought mine home at 18. i taught both of them how to ride as soon as i got it down. nevertheless both my brothers have crashed one of my bikes its almost inevitable! still seeing my brother in a hospital bed with three broken ribs and full of rash because he took my bike out with just a lid n no gear in gym shorts when his baby momma pissed him off showed me at 16 he had no respect for the machine.
all in all kid theres not much more to be said other then what everyone has already said, just remember riding a sport bike is a privilige that only a select few can tame, others buckle under pressure and freak out due to the danger.