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RuffRyder02
02-26-2004, 06:20 PM
I've been lurking around here for some time now and have noticed a few things. For one there is some really good advice that is posted here. There seems to be some really knowledgeable people in this forum who give good advice in general.
The other thing I noticed is that there is some really bad advice given here. It seems like if people don't know the answer to a question they just make stuff up. If you don't know the answer to a question remember that NO ADVICE IS BETTER THAN BAD ADVICE. I realize that this is a chat forum but for god sakes think before you type. If you have no education on the subject don't pretend that you do! In the real world of personal training you have to be accountable for what you tell people. It's unethical to give advice to someone that could possible cause injury to that person. So if you don't know what your talking about please do everyone a favor and just sit on your hands and just read......don't type.

Sorry about the rant

GdSaXnR
02-26-2004, 08:02 PM
You are dealing with the fitness world. There are lots of ways to get the same results, and everybody's body is different. The world of personal training, at least in my experience, is filled mostly with a bunch of weenies who look like shit. Im sure it is healthier to not go ass to ankles on squats, but why don't you tell 1qwik6? and Bigtime that they are doing it wrong while they sit there with 30 something inch legs. Running isn't healthy on the knees, no shit. I wouldn't say people are giving bad advice, I think the people seeking the advice are the fools. People need to realize different things work for different people. You can ask 10 people the same question and get 10 different answers. "how do you build big arms?" Is there a right answer? No... There may be a common denominator but there is no right answer. Get yourself some anadrol, eat 600 grams of protein a day, no cardio, and you will get big arms. Is this bad advice??? Go tell Dorian Yates and all the other freaks (including arnold) that they were doing it wrong the whole time.

GdSaXnR
02-26-2004, 08:05 PM
If people want advice, they need to list their current diet and program. It usually isn't about a good program or runnign for so long or eating the right things. It is about adjusting a program to make it work for YOU. There are no cookie cutter programs out there that work for everyone. If you want advice, you need to inform everyone of your exercise program, your progress, and your goals.

RepulsioN
02-26-2004, 09:16 PM
If I give advice I always try and point out its from a runners point of view - especailly when it comes to diet. As I know the way I do things can be contradictory to alot of gym type advice you might get.

I like to think that I dont give advice on stuff that I dont have a lot of experiance in - which is why you will find me giving Cardio advice but never interjecting on any of the body building stuff.

oldgixxer
02-26-2004, 09:39 PM
1Qwik6,when did you get 30" quads??? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

1qwik6
02-26-2004, 11:53 PM
oldgixxer said:
1Qwik6,when did you get 30" quads??? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



I borrowed yours for a while http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Oh...and I never mentioned I go a$$ to ankles with squats...my nutz would be rollin around on the floor http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif...thats just me though...now...in getting back to the topic in question...I feel the same way...some people should just not give advice...not just here on GDC, but in everyday life...I see it time and time again...with me if/when I give advice i try to give the best advice WITH different options cause obviously, what worked(s) for me, might not work for the next person...but it's a general idea...ok...nuff of me ramblin...gotta get back to work...

ps I always wondered what measurment my quads were http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

oldgixxer
02-27-2004, 12:25 AM
GdSaXnR ,I think I'm the only one that ever condoned Tom Platz style ass-to-ankles squats,not 1qwik6?.But anyway,your right when you say everybody is different,and responds differently.Thats why when I get asked"what do you do for your Quads",or "how do I get my back to grow" I make a point of ALWAYS saying:"This is what worked for ME,but may not work for you."There are just to many variables and unknowns to give 100% accurate advice.This is not a hardcore bodybuilding forum,if it was,then all the lead up questions(Diet,protein,sets,supplements,etc.)that I end up asking first would just be automatically assumed to be correct.But without that essential info,the advice is worthless.

But what I don't agree with is that people asking for advice are fools.I don't know everything,and I doubt you do either.I'm always willing to listen and ask questions about new technique's,and I reserve judgement on them until I try it myself.Does that make me a fool?

RuffRyder02,before this forum,remember when a fitness/workout question was posted in AG and you'd get 50 people telling you what to do,and some of it was so far fetched you just had to laugh?When you know most of the "experts" were overweight themselves and never touched a weight in their life http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifI cannot recall how many times SicShift and I ended up getting into these drawn out debates on diet and lifting(not w/ each other http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif)and just said "fuck it" and stopped responding. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

GdSaXnR
02-27-2004, 03:55 AM
Im just saying they are fools if their program is revolving around a motorcycle forum. There are a million resources, on the internet especially. This is the "information age." There is a reason they call it that. Since fitness is consistently one of the biggest moneymakers out there, there is of course a lot of information. A lot of of people seem to be looking for the miracle diet (atkins, etc.) or that special exercise to slim down your waist (weighted oblique exercises.... dumbasses). They need to do a little research, then ask someone for advice. As for the squatting, I thought I remember a picture of 1qwik6 before a show or something and he was big. From what I have read, most competition level bodybuilders do heavy squats ass to ankles. I personally have never seen anyone with big legs do that half squat shit, and have only read about very few people that don't do deep heavy squats with big legs. This seems to be cause they are rather tall and squats seem to be kind of clumsy for some taller people. People like to bring up Dorian as a cop out to not doing squats. Sure after he got his hip injury he laid off them, but he didn't get big by not doing heavy, deep squats. I'm personally not very big (I'll post pics sometime, although there should be a treaty for MPD for pics in health and fitness) but I take a little pride in knowing what I know. Knowledge, understanding, and patience are the most important supplements. Condoning Tom Platz's style wouldn't be a bad start considering he is regarded as having some of the freakier legs out there, so that is a good start IMO.

RuffRyder02
02-27-2004, 04:07 AM
oldgixxer said:
RuffRyder02,before this forum,remember when a fitness/workout question was posted in AG and you'd get 50 people telling you what to do,and some of it was so far fetched you just had to laugh?When you know most of the "experts" were overweight themselves and never touched a weight in their life http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifI cannot recall how many times SicShift and I ended up getting into these drawn out debates on diet and lifting(not w/ each other http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif)and just said "fuck it" and stopped responding. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Yea I remember those days, I just stayed out of those debates. It was like pissing into the wind http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

Moss
02-27-2004, 04:14 AM
well Advice is only a persons Expereince, or their opinion. You need to be able to weed through what is good advice, and what is bad yourself, and make the call.

If I ever put up bad advice, I expect someone to call me on it, maybe its something I thought I knew, or something that has worked for me, but if I'm incorrect, please take the time to correct me, but at the same time, don't be a F@ckin Tool about it either http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I have got some good advice here, and its helped my Motivation, so the forum is great, very glad its here.

fah-q-honda
02-27-2004, 04:31 AM
I'd like to comment on your "balls rolling around on the floor"!!! If you squat barefoot go ahead and roll them boys to your toes and give em a little tickle or two with each rep. That's what works for ME, it keeps me from skippin "leg day" if I have some kinda reward....ya know.

1qwik6
02-27-2004, 04:43 AM
GdSaXnR said:
As for the squatting, I thought I remember a picture of 1qwik6 before a show or something and he was big. From what I have read, most competition level bodybuilders do heavy squats ass to ankles. I personally have never seen anyone with big legs do that half squat shit, and have only read about very few people that don't do deep heavy squats with big legs.



Hehe...you mean this one...

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/dsc01809.jpg

Now I know I don't have the biggest legs in the world...but they are/were very porpotionate with the rest of my body...to be honest I never was a fan of the a$$ to ankles theory behind squats, I would always go just below parallel...I personally gained most my mass from leg presses...on that excersise I would go full range of motion...then you also have to take into consideration my genetics...my legs will grow if I do lunges with 20lb dumbells in my hands...it's weird...

BTW...can anyone guess my wight in that pic...oldgix is not alowed to guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Spidey
02-27-2004, 04:47 AM
Moss said:


well Advice is only a persons Expereince, or their opinion. You need to be able to weed through what is good advice, and what is bad yourself, and make the call.

If I ever put up bad advice, I expect someone to call me on it, maybe its something I thought I knew, or something that has worked for me, but if I'm incorrect, please take the time to correct me, but at the same time, don't be a F@ckin Tool about it either http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I have got some good advice here, and its helped my Motivation, so the forum is great, very glad its here.



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif my thoughts exactly.

We have lots of different people here with different body types and goals. It's the collective information from EVERYONE that helps us decide what is right for US. Don't copy and paste someone's routine... copy and paste EVERYONE'S routine and see what works for YOU. I enjoy the informative posts, and even the ones with misinformation. When someone is misinformed, generally someone will correct them and then they have learned something new. As well as the lurkers!

I tend to dish out advice in the cardio / diet / weight loss department as that's something I've had great success with. Granted... No one is always right, but I do belive I've done more help then harm. I also post in the body building threads as those are something of interest to me. Am I an expert at that? Certainly NOT. However I do like to share what's worked for ME and give credit to those that pointed me in the correct direction. It's good to see the newbies (like myself) posting and asking questions because not everyone is at the same level as others.

To say that we are "part of the problem" is an ignorant comment and makes you sound like an self centered egomaniac. $0.02

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Fiddy_Ryder
02-27-2004, 04:50 AM
1qwik6? said:

BTW...can anyone guess my wight in that pic...oldgix is not alowed to guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



how tall are you?

Spidey
02-27-2004, 04:52 AM
1qwik6? said:
BTW...can anyone guess my wight in that pic...oldgix is not alowed to guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



200lbs... what do i win? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

1qwik6
02-27-2004, 04:53 AM
Fiddy_Ryder said:

1qwik6? said:

BTW...can anyone guess my wight in that pic...oldgix is not alowed to guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



how tall are you?



Hehe I'm 5'-4"...I blame my parents http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Fiddy_Ryder
02-27-2004, 04:56 AM
1qwik6? said:

Fiddy_Ryder said:

1qwik6? said:

BTW...can anyone guess my wight in that pic...oldgix is not alowed to guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



how tall are you?



Hehe I'm 5'-4"...I blame my parents http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



damn,, and they call OG knick knack http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif im gonna guess in the upper 170's..

Spidey
02-27-2004, 04:58 AM
1qwik6? said:

Fiddy_Ryder said:

1qwik6? said:

BTW...can anyone guess my wight in that pic...oldgix is not alowed to guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



how tall are you?



Hehe I'm 5'-4"...I blame my parents http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



Oh wow! I'm going to change my vote to.... errrr... ummmm.... 165lbs http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif

Moss
02-27-2004, 05:02 AM
195lbs?? (but I need to know our Height to guess properly)

Fiddy_Ryder
02-27-2004, 05:04 AM
Moss said:


195lbs?? (but I need to know our Height to guess properly)



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif look up... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

gsxr_paul
02-27-2004, 05:07 AM
Probably guess around 160-5.

Moss
02-27-2004, 05:16 AM
Damn Man, I thouht I was Short http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Ok yah uhmm 170lbs...

1qwik6
02-27-2004, 05:19 AM
Hehe...I weighed in at 154...lightweight class.

Quig
02-27-2004, 05:52 AM
1qwik6? said:
Hehe...I weighed in at 154...lightweight class.



You're BIG for a LITTLE guy. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

oldgixxer
02-27-2004, 07:27 AM
1qwik,I have just the thing for ya if yer lookin to make it to 5'-7"
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Oh boy....I see the questions a comin from the peanut gallery a mile away already http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Spidey
02-27-2004, 07:39 AM
oldgixxer said:
1qwik,I have just the thing for ya if yer lookin to make it to 5'-7"
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Oh boy....I see the questions a comin from the peanut gallery a mile away already http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



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1qwik6
02-27-2004, 07:43 AM
oldgixxer said:
1qwik,I have just the thing for ya if yer lookin to make it to 5'-7"



LMAO...if only my growth plates were still active http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

oldgixxer
02-27-2004, 07:51 AM
We can fix that too http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

RuffRyder02
02-27-2004, 05:18 PM
Spidey said:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif my thoughts exactly.

We have lots of different people here with different body types and goals. It's the collective information from EVERYONE that helps us decide what is right for US. Don't copy and paste someone's routine... copy and paste EVERYONE'S routine and see what works for YOU. I enjoy the informative posts, and even the ones with misinformation. When someone is misinformed, generally someone will correct them and then they have learned something new. As well as the lurkers!

I tend to dish out advice in the cardio / diet / weight loss department as that's something I've had great success with. Granted... No one is always right, but I do belive I've done more help then harm. I also post in the body building threads as those are something of interest to me. Am I an expert at that? Certainly NOT. However I do like to share what's worked for ME and give credit to those that pointed me in the correct direction. It's good to see the newbies (like myself) posting and asking questions because not everyone is at the same level as others.

To say that we are "part of the problem" is an ignorant comment and makes you sound like an self centered egomaniac. $0.02

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Spidey I never said YOU are part of the problem. I just wanted people to think before they post. I realize that this is a discussion board and everyone has their opinion on fitness and nutrition. It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight.

I don't want to ruffle any feathers I just don't someone to get hurt because of bad advice they read on this forum.................If that make me a self centered egomanic so be it.

Spidey
02-27-2004, 06:55 PM
RuffRyder02 said:

Spidey said:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif my thoughts exactly.

We have lots of different people here with different body types and goals. It's the collective information from EVERYONE that helps us decide what is right for US. Don't copy and paste someone's routine... copy and paste EVERYONE'S routine and see what works for YOU. I enjoy the informative posts, and even the ones with misinformation. When someone is misinformed, generally someone will correct them and then they have learned something new. As well as the lurkers!

I tend to dish out advice in the cardio / diet / weight loss department as that's something I've had great success with. Granted... No one is always right, but I do belive I've done more help then harm. I also post in the body building threads as those are something of interest to me. Am I an expert at that? Certainly NOT. However I do like to share what's worked for ME and give credit to those that pointed me in the correct direction. It's good to see the newbies (like myself) posting and asking questions because not everyone is at the same level as others.

To say that we are "part of the problem" is an ignorant comment and makes you sound like an self centered egomaniac. $0.02

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Spidey I never said YOU are part of the problem. I just wanted people to think before they post. I realize that this is a discussion board and everyone has their opinion on fitness and nutrition. It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight.

I don't want to ruffle any feathers I just don't someone to get hurt because of bad advice they read on this forum.................If that make me a self centered egomanic so be it.



it's cool man... i just got the wrong vibe from your first post. the way you just explained it sums it up much better and i see where your comming from now. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

i was about an hour late for lunch when i posted that, and i tend to get grumpy when i'm hungry. i don't think your a self centered egomainac..............any more. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifjk

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

oldgixxer
02-27-2004, 09:56 PM
RuffRyder02 said:

Spidey said:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif my thoughts exactly.

We have lots of different people here with different body types and goals. It's the collective information from EVERYONE that helps us decide what is right for US. Don't copy and paste someone's routine... copy and paste EVERYONE'S routine and see what works for YOU. I enjoy the informative posts, and even the ones with misinformation. When someone is misinformed, generally someone will correct them and then they have learned something new. As well as the lurkers!

I tend to dish out advice in the cardio / diet / weight loss department as that's something I've had great success with. Granted... No one is always right, but I do belive I've done more help then harm. I also post in the body building threads as those are something of interest to me. Am I an expert at that? Certainly NOT. However I do like to share what's worked for ME and give credit to those that pointed me in the correct direction. It's good to see the newbies (like myself) posting and asking questions because not everyone is at the same level as others.

To say that we are "part of the problem" is an ignorant comment and makes you sound like an self centered egomaniac. $0.02

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Spidey I never said YOU are part of the problem. I just wanted people to think before they post. I realize that this is a discussion board and everyone has their opinion on fitness and nutrition. It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight.

I don't want to ruffle any feathers I just don't someone to get hurt because of bad advice they read on this forum.................If that make me a self centered egomanic so be it.



So I'm giving "bad information" by saying the best way for quad mass is ass to ankles squats? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

I'm not evening going to get into this shit now........

:Attention:
Everyone that PM's me for info,please PM RuffRyder2 from now on since I don't know WTF I'm talking about.......

PHISH
02-28-2004, 12:54 AM
Moss said:


well Advice is only a persons Expereince, or their opinion. You need to be able to weed through what is good advice, and what is bad yourself, and make the call.

If I ever put up bad advice, I expect someone to call me on it, maybe its something I thought I knew, or something that has worked for me, but if I'm incorrect, please take the time to correct me, but at the same time, don't be a F@ckin Tool about it either http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I have got some good advice here, and its helped my Motivation, so the forum is great, very glad its here.



Thats exactly the way I have felt.
This thread is useless, I'd like to think that anyone who lifts will share some experiences with others. If you ask me about knitting a fuggen sweater, I know nothing about knitting and I am not going to make up a reply?
And if I answer someone wrong I want to be told I am wrong so that I can learn. I may be doing something wrong and not know that I have been doing it wrong.

I don't know what your implying with this thread but it seems you want everyone to shut up unless your a competitive body builder or a personal trainer.

I will also add this, Their are only a handful of personal trainers that I respect and would recommend, the rest are little bitches!

Why did you post this thread? What are you referring too?

Moss
02-28-2004, 03:00 AM
oldgixxer said:

RuffRyder02 said:

Spidey said:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif my thoughts exactly.

We have lots of different people here with different body types and goals. It's the collective information from EVERYONE that helps us decide what is right for US. Don't copy and paste someone's routine... copy and paste EVERYONE'S routine and see what works for YOU. I enjoy the informative posts, and even the ones with misinformation. When someone is misinformed, generally someone will correct them and then they have learned something new. As well as the lurkers!

I tend to dish out advice in the cardio / diet / weight loss department as that's something I've had great success with. Granted... No one is always right, but I do belive I've done more help then harm. I also post in the body building threads as those are something of interest to me. Am I an expert at that? Certainly NOT. However I do like to share what's worked for ME and give credit to those that pointed me in the correct direction. It's good to see the newbies (like myself) posting and asking questions because not everyone is at the same level as others.

To say that we are "part of the problem" is an ignorant comment and makes you sound like an self centered egomaniac. $0.02

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Spidey I never said YOU are part of the problem. I just wanted people to think before they post. I realize that this is a discussion board and everyone has their opinion on fitness and nutrition. It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight.

I don't want to ruffle any feathers I just don't someone to get hurt because of bad advice they read on this forum.................If that make me a self centered egomanic so be it.



So I'm giving "bad information" by saying the best way for quad mass is ass to ankles squats? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

I'm not evening going to get into this shit now........

:Attention:
Everyone that PM's me for info,please PM RuffRyder2 from now on since I don't know WTF I'm talking about.......



I just want to make a note, that I asked OG about doing Ass to Ankles, but also gave him the info that I have a bad knee already, his answer was absolutely not. I don't think that there is really that much "bad info" in this place, from other fitness boards I frequent, I'd have to say we have some of the best info going http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Skibo
02-28-2004, 05:40 AM
oldgixxer said:

RuffRyder02 said:

Spidey said:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif my thoughts exactly.

We have lots of different people here with different body types and goals. It's the collective information from EVERYONE that helps us decide what is right for US. Don't copy and paste someone's routine... copy and paste EVERYONE'S routine and see what works for YOU. I enjoy the informative posts, and even the ones with misinformation. When someone is misinformed, generally someone will correct them and then they have learned something new. As well as the lurkers!

I tend to dish out advice in the cardio / diet / weight loss department as that's something I've had great success with. Granted... No one is always right, but I do belive I've done more help then harm. I also post in the body building threads as those are something of interest to me. Am I an expert at that? Certainly NOT. However I do like to share what's worked for ME and give credit to those that pointed me in the correct direction. It's good to see the newbies (like myself) posting and asking questions because not everyone is at the same level as others.

To say that we are "part of the problem" is an ignorant comment and makes you sound like an self centered egomaniac. $0.02

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Spidey I never said YOU are part of the problem. I just wanted people to think before they post. I realize that this is a discussion board and everyone has their opinion on fitness and nutrition. It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight.

I don't want to ruffle any feathers I just don't someone to get hurt because of bad advice they read on this forum.................If that make me a self centered egomanic so be it.



So I'm giving "bad information" by saying the best way for quad mass is ass to ankles squats? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

I'm not evening going to get into this shit now........

:Attention:
Everyone that PM's me for info,please PM RuffRyder2 from now on since I don't know WTF I'm talking about.......


Fuck that shit. You have helped alot of people on here. There is always somebody who wants to thhrow in there 2 cents worth, even when its not worth anything. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif

SicShift
02-28-2004, 06:45 AM
if people want to lose weight, they should just stick to 1 small meal and a glass of pancake syrup for carbs.

Work out doing 3 or 4 sets of 1-2 reps of every muscle group every day.

They'll get to their goals in no time! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

RuffRyder02
02-28-2004, 07:05 AM
I wasn't pointing fingers at anyone it was a general statement intended to make people think before they type. The question I asked is "Are You Part of the Problem" if your not then don't worry about it, but if you are try a litle something called "researching the subject" before you type. Whenever a post such as my orginal one is posted it's enevitable that someone will be offended, that's ok with me.

Oldgixxer I don't know why your so pissed I never said you give bad advice I was referring to a post by GdSaXnR who was just making a point about ass to ankel squats. So please except my appoligy if you took offence to what was said. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

RuffRyder02
02-28-2004, 07:08 AM
SicShift said:
if people want to lose weight, they should just stick to 1 small meal and a glass of pancake syrup for carbs.

Work out doing 3 or 4 sets of 1-2 reps of every muscle group every day.

They'll get to their goals in no time! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif



bwahahahahahahahaha some of the best advice I've heard in a long time. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif

SicShift
02-28-2004, 07:14 AM
RuffRyder02 said:
I wasn't pointing fingers at anyone it was a general statement intended to make people think before they type. The question I asked is "Are You Part of the Problem" if your not then don't worry about it, but if you are try a litle something called "researching the subject" before you type. Whenever a post such as my orginal one is posted it's enevitable that someone will be offended, that's ok with me.

Oldgixxer I don't know why your so pissed I never said you give bad advice I was referring to a post by GdSaXnR who was just making a point about ass to ankel squats. So please except my appoligy if you took offence to what was said. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



The problem with what you want is that many people who give bad advice (which has lessened a ton since this forum has opened, don't really always know that their advice is bad. It's got be left up to the pros to correct them but it's not easily preventable.

You don't really see much anymore here and it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. When it was in the main forum, you wouldnt beleive some of the advice given out by random people. At least in here, there are 4 or 5 of us that check all of the posts all of the time.

It's a lot more regulated here. I stopped even opening the posts back in the old forum. I love the fact that there are a few bodybuilders here. I'm really weak in the supplementation department as I myself didn't use a whole lot and my old clients were mostly older people or people looking to get back into shape from being unhealthy.

I think there are enough people here to point out when something is questionable. So far, you haven't really brought out an example beyond ass to ankles which was often posted toungue in cheek.

RuffRyder02
02-28-2004, 07:22 AM
SicShift said:

RuffRyder02 said:
I wasn't pointing fingers at anyone it was a general statement intended to make people think before they type. The question I asked is "Are You Part of the Problem" if your not then don't worry about it, but if you are try a litle something called "researching the subject" before you type. Whenever a post such as my orginal one is posted it's enevitable that someone will be offended, that's ok with me.

Oldgixxer I don't know why your so pissed I never said you give bad advice I was referring to a post by GdSaXnR who was just making a point about ass to ankel squats. So please except my appoligy if you took offence to what was said. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



The problem with what you want is that many people who give bad advice (which has lessened a ton since this forum has opened, don't really always know that their advice is bad. It's got be left up to the pros to correct them but it's not easily preventable.

You don't really see much anymore here and it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. When it was in the main forum, you would beleive some of the advice given out by random people. At least in here, there are 4 or 5 of us that check all of the posts all of the time.



I agree with you 100 percent, but in most cases when you do correct someone they get offended or angry. Most people don't like it when you tell them they're wrong.

oldgixxer
02-28-2004, 08:32 AM
This is your qoute...

"It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight."..........

I'm not so much pissed as I'm dissapointed.I poted my pic from when I used to comptete,a month or so back.
People asked about my quad development,which stands out.
Then they asked how I got them.
So I told them.
The only way I train quads is 110%,which means deep,heavy squats.Period.
Is it for everyone,maybe,maybe not.
Are you going to get 30" quads by going parellel?
I doubt it.....

And GdSaXnR was referring to me,as I'm the one who started the whole ass to ankles conversation a while back,he just confused it with 1qwik6? saying it.That is the whole reason I jumped in this nonsense.

I'm cool,no worries. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SicShift
02-28-2004, 08:40 AM
oldgixxer said:
This is your qoute...

"It's the bad information that can cause potential injury that concerns me (i.e ass to ankles squating) sure some people with huge legs might do them but the potential for injury out ways any benefits especially with heavy weight."..........

I'm not so much pissed as I'm dissapointed.I poted my pic from when I used to comptete,a month or so back.
People asked about my quad development,which stands out.
Then they asked how I got them.
So I told them.
The only way I train quads is 110%,which means deep,heavy squats.Period.
Is it for everyone,maybe,maybe not.
Are you going to get 30" quads by going parellel?
I doubt it.....

And GdSaXnR was referring to me,as I'm the one who started the whole ass to ankles conversation a while back,he just confused it with 1qwik6? saying it.That is the whole reason I jumped in this nonsense.

I'm cool,no worries. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



It's the roid rage!! Run everyone! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

oldgixxer
02-28-2004, 08:45 AM
Pete,your a Penis http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

1qwik6
02-28-2004, 10:39 AM
oldgixxer said:
Are you going to get 30" quads by going parellel?
I doubt it.....



Sure, why not, I did http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

oldgixxer
02-28-2004, 11:20 AM
1qwik6? said:

oldgixxer said:
Are you going to get 30" quads by going parellel?
I doubt it.....



Sure, why not, I did http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Liar,you borrowed them from me.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

GdSaXnR
02-29-2004, 05:35 PM
I also go as deep as possible, although I tend to use higher reps, and this is how my quads have been improving. I'm ont quite pushing 30", but Im also not a competitive bodybuilder. Although I currently don't, I have done leg press with a bodybuilder buddy of mine where we loaded HEAVY weight and went to just about 90 degrees, and I got a GOOD workout from it. So variation is always good. Maybe you should post your pics RuffRyder. Hell you're a CERTIFIED PERSONAL TRAINER. If you aren't a hypocritical quack of a trainer (like most it seems), you shouldn't be ashamed to post them.

RuffRyder02
03-01-2004, 08:31 AM
GdSaXnR said:
I also go as deep as possible, although I tend to use higher reps, and this is how my quads have been improving. I'm ont quite pushing 30", but Im also not a competitive bodybuilder. Although I currently don't, I have done leg press with a bodybuilder buddy of mine where we loaded HEAVY weight and went to just about 90 degrees, and I got a GOOD workout from it. So variation is always good. Maybe you should post your pics RuffRyder. Hell you're a CERTIFIED PERSONAL TRAINER. If you aren't a hypocritical quack of a trainer (like most it seems), you shouldn't be ashamed to post them.



You can go as low as you want I don't give a damn if you wreck your knees. Your right variation is good I agree with you totally. I don't have any pics on my comp right now to share with you, but as soon as I get some I will be more than happy to post one. That being said a picture says nothing about how knowledgeable you are, I have met plenty of guys who are pretty ripped and dumber than a post.

hayez
03-02-2004, 02:49 AM
i think in order to lose weight you starve yourself for 2 weeks with no food...then after you drop all your weight slowly start eating again...works wonders...i lost 70 pounds in 2 weeks...also the only way to get big is to shoot a gram of test every toher day for the rest of your life...hope everyone benifitted form my advice

RuffRyder02
03-02-2004, 03:00 AM
hayez said:
i think in order to lose weight you starve yourself for 2 weeks with no food...then after you drop all your weight slowly start eating again...works wonders...i lost 70 pounds in 2 weeks...also the only way to get big is to shoot a gram of test every toher day for the rest of your life...hope everyone benifitted form my advice



Good diet advice but you forgot to let people know they need to dring at least 4oz of water per day otherwise you can't live for 2 weeks without food. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

hayez
03-02-2004, 06:02 AM
lol...water shit...nobody needs water..that just makes ya weigh more...lol