I'm new to supplements of any kind... Per BMF's suggestion I've tried Met-Rx Supreme Whey and Met-Rx Protein Plus. I actually like the Supreme Whey and am just about out of it. The Protein Plus on the other hand is incredibly thick and hard to drink-- I'm not a fan. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I was just visiting DPSNutrition (or whatever the name of that Supplement site is...) doing a little shopping. I'm not sure what I should be getting. I was thinking about some Met-Rx 100 bars for breakfast and some more Supreme Whey unless anyone else has other suggestions. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

I also spent some time in the Clenbuterol thread today and also heard an advertisement for Ripped Fuel on the radio today. That led me to do a little homework on ECA Stacks. What do you guys think? Safe? Good/Bad Idea? I noticed that there are many now that are Ephedra free. I wouldn't mind a little help leaning out(even though it's cheating!) but I honestly don't know much more about these products that what I've just read. What do you gurus suggest? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Thanks in advance. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bounce.gif

this is what i am currently using
protein - Optimum Nutritions 100% whey
creatine - ast micronized
multivitamin - centrum
nox2

Quig,protein bars/sheakes is all personal choice.Each one tastes different,so ya gotta find what you like.

As far as the ECA stack,unless you can get some ephedra,you can forget about the ECA stack http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gifYou need the E in order to make it work.You can still by Ephedra based products outside of the US,and Canada sells a great product to use in that stack called Dymetadrine 25.That shit kicks ass.They stopped selling it here a few years back.But,there are sides to it's use so you might wanna consider that too.BMF still has a bottle,but I'm first in line for it whenever I meet up with him http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And besides,with that stack,your basically wired out of your skull all day,didn't know if you knew that http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

oldgixxer said:

And besides,with that stack,your basically wired out of your skull all day,didn't know if you knew that http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Ohh damn yah!! Imagine 15 cups of coffee through intervenous...Your wired all day (unless you forget take take em in the afternoon) but at night, you crash, and crash hard, that is of course if they wear off and you can actually sleep. You will likely get very little sleep. What I did when using that stack, was take it about 4-5 days a week, so i could get at least a few nights of good rest.

But it works...Man does it work, Thats the only reason I was down as low as I went before, I'm not sure what BF% but I could see to top of my abs, So I'd say below 10%

yeah... as the others said, ephedra was the good shit. if you can handle speeding all day long. i used to use that stuff all the time, and it does work. also had a friend at 21 have a heart attack because of the stuff. that's when i stopped taking it.

as for supplements... i've tried most of the shakes / bars, and here's what i like.

Pro-Score 100 Chocolate Whey Protein with Glutimine. (hard to find... but yummy as hell)

Power Bar Energy Bites ( these things WORK! basically, a carb load )
Sugar Free Power Bar Protein Plus peanut butter chocolate bars.. ( for when leaning out )
Cliff Bars ( my favorite... lots of nutrition and made with caffeine)
Luna Bars.

I make sure to keep a large variety of those bars as it's easy to get burnt out on one particular brand. If you haven't tried the Pro-Score Chocolate Whey either, it's really good.

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Quig said:
I'm new to supplements of any kind... Per BMF's suggestion I've tried Met-Rx Supreme Whey and Met-Rx Protein Plus. I actually like the Supreme Whey and am just about out of it. The Protein Plus on the other hand is incredibly thick and hard to drink-- I'm not a fan. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I was just visiting DPSNutrition (or whatever the name of that Supplement site is...) doing a little shopping. I'm not sure what I should be getting. I was thinking about some Met-Rx 100 bars for breakfast and some more Supreme Whey unless anyone else has other suggestions. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

I also spent some time in the Clenbuterol thread today and also heard an advertisement for Ripped Fuel on the radio today. That led me to do a little homework on ECA Stacks. What do you guys think? Safe? Good/Bad Idea? I noticed that there are many now that are Ephedra free. I wouldn't mind a little help leaning out(even though it's cheating!) but I honestly don't know much more about these products that what I've just read. What do you gurus suggest? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Thanks in advance. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bounce.gif



ThermoGen II is still available on shelves in some nutritional shops. If you want some, My supplement supplier sells it for 18-30 dollars a bottle. I suggest to be careful however. Eph is nothing to mess around with.

Bigtime 73 said:

Quig said:
I'm new to supplements of any kind... Per BMF's suggestion I've tried Met-Rx Supreme Whey and Met-Rx Protein Plus. I actually like the Supreme Whey and am just about out of it. The Protein Plus on the other hand is incredibly thick and hard to drink-- I'm not a fan. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I was just visiting DPSNutrition (or whatever the name of that Supplement site is...) doing a little shopping. I'm not sure what I should be getting. I was thinking about some Met-Rx 100 bars for breakfast and some more Supreme Whey unless anyone else has other suggestions. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

I also spent some time in the Clenbuterol thread today and also heard an advertisement for Ripped Fuel on the radio today. That led me to do a little homework on ECA Stacks. What do you guys think? Safe? Good/Bad Idea? I noticed that there are many now that are Ephedra free. I wouldn't mind a little help leaning out(even though it's cheating!) but I honestly don't know much more about these products that what I've just read. What do you gurus suggest? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Thanks in advance. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bounce.gif



ThermoGen II is still available on shelves in some nutritional shops. If you want some, My supplement supplier sells it for 18-30 dollars a bottle. I suggest to be careful however. Eph is nothing to mess around with.



damn you cant find any ephedra based stuff here in CA anymore http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif im gonna do some web searching, but if possible, you mind grabbing a bottle and shipping it out? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

and i used ripped fuel years back, good stuff if you like the whole *heart jumping outta yer chest feeling* http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif i would use it in college due to my lack of sleep so i could sit through long lectures, only problem was i couldnt sit still. id have to get up, walk a lap or two around the building just to calm myself http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Most places dont carry it on the self anymore. I havent seen any in local stores for a while now.. Havent looked too hard but still.. It isnt actually banned until Apr 5 (last I heard anyway) so you can stil get it at some places.. http://bodybuilding.com/store/ephedra.html

I believe it was banned in CA though.. So you could just have someone buy it and send it to you.. Thats one way around it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

There are a lot of Bodybuilders that swear by the stuff.. If it is used properly. But I dont know much about it, so I cant say.
olly

Fiddy_Ryder said:

Bigtime 73 said:

Quig said:
I'm new to supplements of any kind... Per BMF's suggestion I've tried Met-Rx Supreme Whey and Met-Rx Protein Plus. I actually like the Supreme Whey and am just about out of it. The Protein Plus on the other hand is incredibly thick and hard to drink-- I'm not a fan. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I was just visiting DPSNutrition (or whatever the name of that Supplement site is...) doing a little shopping. I'm not sure what I should be getting. I was thinking about some Met-Rx 100 bars for breakfast and some more Supreme Whey unless anyone else has other suggestions. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

I also spent some time in the Clenbuterol thread today and also heard an advertisement for Ripped Fuel on the radio today. That led me to do a little homework on ECA Stacks. What do you guys think? Safe? Good/Bad Idea? I noticed that there are many now that are Ephedra free. I wouldn't mind a little help leaning out(even though it's cheating!) but I honestly don't know much more about these products that what I've just read. What do you gurus suggest? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Thanks in advance. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bounce.gif



ThermoGen II is still available on shelves in some nutritional shops. If you want some, My supplement supplier sells it for 18-30 dollars a bottle. I suggest to be careful however. Eph is nothing to mess around with.



damn you cant find any ephedra based stuff here in CA anymore http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif im gonna do some web searching, but if possible, you mind grabbing a bottle and shipping it out? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

and i used ripped fuel years back, good stuff if you like the whole *heart jumping outta yer chest feeling* http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif i would use it in college due to my lack of sleep so i could sit through long lectures, only problem was i couldnt sit still. id have to get up, walk a lap or two around the building just to calm myself http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



Sure..PM me and I'll hook you up.

oldgixxer said:
As far as the ECA stack,unless you can get some ephedra,you can forget about the ECA stack http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gifYou need the E in order to make it work.

And besides,with that stack,your basically wired out of your skull all day,didn't know if you knew that http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Yeah, I can see how an ECA Stack without the E isn't much of a stack. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thanks for the advice on the supplements too guys, looks like I'll just start trying different types of protein bars to find some I like. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

All the information I've found on the web seems to indicate that if Ephedra is used as directed it is perfectly safe... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Sure seems like the stuff may be worth trying. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bigtime! Mind if I PM ya too? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

great supps??

How about..

Test 250
test 400
anything from Broval
dbal
deca



LOL!!! kidding guys..

gixxerguy77 said:
great supps??

How about..

Test 250
test 400
anything from Broval
dbal
deca



LOL!!! kidding guys..



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I'm not looking to go that route http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

in ri where i am right now at the cumberland farms... a little convenience store they have a shitload of little bottles called like ephedra plus or something like that...bascially "extra" strength ephedrine im not gonna buy it but i just think its funny that its still being sold, and whoever makes it is trying to emphasize the amount of ephadrine...its like "do you want a heart attack?then take our drugs!"

olly said:
Most places dont carry it on the self anymore. I havent seen any in local stores for a while now.. Havent looked too hard but still.. It isnt actually banned until Apr 5 (last I heard anyway) so you can stil get it at some places.. http://bodybuilding.com/store/ephedra.html

I believe it was banned in CA though.. So you could just have someone buy it and send it to you.. Thats one way around it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

There are a lot of Bodybuilders that swear by the stuff.. If it is used properly. But I dont know much about it, so I cant say.
olly



I just brought some off www.bodybuilding.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com) and I live in CA so I don't think it has been banned here yet, I'm not sure though

i snort cocaine all day...atleast 4 lines a hour...that really helps to speed the metabolism...i really prefer it over ephedrin











































lol

Gixkid600 said:

I just brought some off www.bodybuilding.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com) and I live in CA so I don't think it has been banned here yet, I'm not sure though



Ok, I know it just says some states are banned.. So I wasnt sure..
olly

Quig said:

oldgixxer said:
As far as the ECA stack,unless you can get some ephedra,you can forget about the ECA stack http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gifYou need the E in order to make it work.

And besides,with that stack,your basically wired out of your skull all day,didn't know if you knew that http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Yeah, I can see how an ECA Stack without the E isn't much of a stack. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

All the information I've found on the web seems to indicate that if Ephedra is used as directed it is perfectly safe... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Sure seems like the stuff may be worth trying. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif




Take it slow on the ephedra. I was taking hydroxicut(sp???) a couple years ago, and one pill would get me spun up and the recommended dosage was 2 pills. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

PowerFiend said:

Quig said:

oldgixxer said:
As far as the ECA stack,unless you can get some ephedra,you can forget about the ECA stack http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gifYou need the E in order to make it work.

And besides,with that stack,your basically wired out of your skull all day,didn't know if you knew that http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Yeah, I can see how an ECA Stack without the E isn't much of a stack. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

All the information I've found on the web seems to indicate that if Ephedra is used as directed it is perfectly safe... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Sure seems like the stuff may be worth trying. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif




Take it slow on the ephedra. I was taking hydroxicut(sp???) a couple years ago, and one pill would get me spun up and the recommended dosage was 2 pills. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif



I figured that if I do try it I will likely use a little less than the recommended dosage. Not sure yet... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Thanks though http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Hey Quig!!
Im by means no expert, but have you tried Zantrex-3?? Click Me ! ! ! (http://www.zantrex3.com/products/comparison.asp)
If you want to try some w/o buying it, I have some. I like it. Good energy w/o the jitters!! (for me anyways) http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Just a thought.

SheDevil said:
Hey Quig!!
Im by means no expert, but have you tried Zantrex-3?? Click Me ! ! ! (http://www.zantrex3.com/products/comparison.asp)
If you want to try some w/o buying it, I have some. I like it. Good energy w/o the jitters!! (for me anyways) http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Just a thought.



Whaddup!!?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

I appreciate the offer but I think I'll hold off on that stuff for now... but I'll keep it in mind. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Thanks! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

By the way... You didn't miss shit at bikenight tonight. I just got back. Almost NOBODY showed up. 3 of us... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Warm Weather... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Anytime!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif
Damn, that sucks!! Good for you to keep up the troops... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bounce.gif Hopefuly next week will be better, I should be there. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif