: Thoughts on "walking" for cardio?
cbibb 02-11-2004, 10:25 PM I have been lifting for a while but I am a little heavier than I like to be. I am 5'9" and about 218. I would like to get back to about 205. I HATE!!!!! cardio. I was going to start walking for 30 min 5 days a week on my lunch break and then lift after work. Am I going to see any decent results with walking or do I need something with more intensity? By the way I am 27. Thanks guys/gals.
RepulsioN 02-12-2004, 12:00 AM Walking is a good way of shedding way weight if your unused to cardio......but you really need to do way more than 30 minutes to see fast results.
Walking a distance burns roughly the same amount of calories as running per mile. So lets say you can run 6 miles in 45 minutes - that would burn roughly the same calories as walking that same distance in just under 2 hours (slow to medium walking pace). So you can see that you have to spend a lot of time on your feet to burn the calories you would do in a hard cardio session.
Hikers and ramblers who go out and walk around open moorland on their Sundays burn tons of calories - but then they are stuck out for hours and hours on end.
The short answer is for decent results with just a 30 min cardio window you need to do something with more intenstity.
If theres one thing you can be sure off is there is very rarely an easy get out or quick fix when it comes to this sort of thing unfortunately.
oldgixxer 02-12-2004, 12:36 AM It's not the most efficient method,especially considering the time invested into it.I'd much rather blitz my body on the Gauntlet for 20 minutes and leave spent then walking like a 70yr. old with arm band weights aimlessly around a park or down the sidewalk for 2 hours a day http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sun Burn 02-12-2004, 02:19 AM oldgixxer said:
It's not the most efficient method,especially considering the time invested into it.I'd much rather blitz my body on the Gauntlet for 20 minutes and leave spent then walking like a 70yr. old with arm band weights aimlessly around a park or down the sidewalk for 2 hours a day http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Word.
Try 20 or 30 minutes of high intesity interval training on a bike or crosstraining (elliptical) machine.
1qwik6 02-12-2004, 04:08 AM BLK03GSXR said:
crosstraining (elliptical) machine.
My feet fall asleep on that thing...recumnant(sp?) bike for me...actually...I dunno how true this is, but I read an article that said a fast pace walk on the treadmill will burn fat faster than running...again...not to sure of the truth behind this...but...I do remember my "nutritionist" making me walk at a fast pace instead of run as well...I dunno...it seemed to work...then again when yer hopped up on Cytomel, and 10 clen a day...just about anything would work http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
1qwik6? said:
BLK03GSXR said:
crosstraining (elliptical) machine.
My feet fall asleep on that thing...recumnant(sp?) bike for me...actually...I dunno how true this is, but I read an article that said a fast pace walk on the treadmill will burn fat faster than running...again...not to sure of the truth behind this...but...I do remember my "nutritionist" making me walk at a fast pace instead of run as well...I dunno...it seemed to work...then again when yer hopped up on Cytomel, and 10 clen a day...just about anything would work http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I think the theory behind that is, that low intensity Cardio uses Fat as a Fuel Source, you burn lower overall Calories, but a higher percent from Fat. When you do a high intensity Cardio, you burn more calories, but less of a percentage comes from Fat. But if you do your Cardio first thing in the AM, or Directly after a weight workout, I believe most of your ready energy is already burnt, so by doing so, more of the overall Calories burnt come from Fat.
Sun Burn 02-12-2004, 04:59 AM I think the theory behind that is, that low intensity Cardio uses Fat as a Fuel Source, you burn lower overall Calories, but a higher percent from Fat. When you do a high intensity Cardio, you burn more calories, but less of a percentage comes from Fat.
I'm not too sure about that. Maybe oldgixxer can straighten us out. I always base fast cardio vs slow cardio by comparing the physique of an olympic sprinter vs an opympic marathon runner. The sprinter will be very cut and muscular because he burns his calories and fat in short fast intervals. Most marathon runners are very spindly and small because their slow pace for long distances will eventually begin to burn off their muscle as a fuel source. I think fast paced cardio burns more fat/calories and less muscle.
I'm not an expert though so I welcome other opinions.
PHISH 02-12-2004, 05:32 AM BLK03GSXR said:
I think the theory behind that is, that low intensity Cardio uses Fat as a Fuel Source, you burn lower overall Calories, but a higher percent from Fat. When you do a high intensity Cardio, you burn more calories, but less of a percentage comes from Fat.
I'm not too sure about that. Maybe oldgixxer can straighten us out. I always base fast cardio vs slow cardio by comparing the physique of an olympic sprinter vs an opympic marathon runner. The sprinter will be very cut and muscular because he burns his calories and fat in short fast intervals. Most marathon runners are very spindly and small because their slow pace for long distances will eventually begin to burn off their muscle as a fuel source. I think fast paced cardio burns more fat/calories and less muscle.
I'm not an expert though so I welcome other opinions.
I have nop idea on this one... they both sound right!
1qwik6 02-12-2004, 06:10 AM I believe long periods of intense cardio can cause yer body to go into "deprivatation" and it will look into other sourses for energy...i.e. muscle...I coule be pulling this outta my ass though http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Sun Burn 02-12-2004, 06:48 AM 1qwik6? said:
I believe long periods of intense cardio can cause yer body to go into "deprivatation" and it will look into other sourses for energy...i.e. muscle...I coule be pulling this outta my ass though http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Yea, that's what I was talking about. I think you'd have to run forever before it kicks in though. They call it runners burn. Basically you run until your body runs out of fuel sources, fat, carbs, sugars, etc and then turns to muscle for energy. That makes your legs or whatever burn.
I guess maybe I'm off topic a little though. I doubt he will walk himself until he burns away all his muscle but again, I'm no expert.
SicShift 02-12-2004, 07:07 AM BLK03GSXR said:
I think the theory behind that is, that low intensity Cardio uses Fat as a Fuel Source, you burn lower overall Calories, but a higher percent from Fat. When you do a high intensity Cardio, you burn more calories, but less of a percentage comes from Fat.
I'm not too sure about that. Maybe oldgixxer can straighten us out. I always base fast cardio vs slow cardio by comparing the physique of an olympic sprinter vs an opympic marathon runner. The sprinter will be very cut and muscular because he burns his calories and fat in short fast intervals. Most marathon runners are very spindly and small because their slow pace for long distances will eventually begin to burn off their muscle as a fuel source. I think fast paced cardio burns more fat/calories and less muscle.
I'm not an expert though so I welcome other opinions.
The differences in physiques has to do with muscle fiber types and anaerobic activity vs. aerobic activity. Many times people think that cardiovascular excercise is the exact same thing as aerobic activity.
Cardiovascular activity is anything that keeps your heart pumping at a higher rate for a sustained period of time for the purpose of building your heart muscle.
The word 'aerobic' means 'with oxygen,' while 'anaerobic' means 'without oxygen.'
Sprinters run at maximum force for short periods of time. They are relying on primarily fast-twitch muscle fibers and are using their muscles glycogen stores to move them fast distances in short times.
A marathon runner builds up primarily slow-twitch muscle fibers that rely on large amounts of oxygen for sustained activity. The muscles are generally not as massive as they don't require as many muscle fibers to produce force. Long term aerobic activity like that however can often have a very negative effect due to excessive wear of your bones and joints and the body eventually turns to muscle catabolization. (breaking down muscle fiber for fuel)
If you're looking for the perfect physique like a sprinter, ask what their workout routine is. They often spend more time in the gym than they do sprinting because the muscles are so important whereas the marathon runner just runs and runs and runs.
I good mix of both are great for overall health. Personally, I go for medium-high intensity so I don't spend all day on cardio (usually around 30-40 minutes) but once or twice a week I will do cardio for 1-1.5 hours just to mix things up. It's all aobut preventing adaptation and having a dynamic workout routine for maximum results.
Sun Burn 02-12-2004, 07:35 AM Well said. I knew someone could break it down for us. I totally agree with switching up the cardio. I try not to get stuck in the same routine.
oldgixxer 02-12-2004, 07:47 AM SicShift is on the money,again http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
1qwik6?:10 Clens a day AND T3?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gifHow many Unisom's did it take you to fall asleep,or did you just stay awake non-stop until you stepped onstage,fully alert and ready to rock http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Skibo 02-12-2004, 08:32 AM Have any of you had good results or seen good results using the elliptical machine?
When i use it on the fat burn mode it seems like im not going "hard" enough. I was just wondering yall's thoughts on this pice of equipment.
SicShift 02-12-2004, 08:42 AM Skibo said:
Have any of you had good results or seen good results using the elliptical machine?
When i use it on the fat burn mode it seems like im not going "hard" enough. I was just wondering yall's thoughts on this pice of equipment.
It works for many. I, for the life of me, can't get my heart up on it. For some reason, the stairclimber works best for me.
Sun Burn 02-12-2004, 09:11 AM I love the elliptical machine. I can't run b/c I have a pinched nerve in my back and riding the bike doesn't do enough for me. The elliptical machine simulates running without any impact. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
1qwik6 02-12-2004, 11:44 AM oldgixxer said:
1qwik6?:10 Clens a day AND T3?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gifHow many Unisom's did it take you to fall asleep,or did you just stay awake non-stop until you stepped onstage,fully alert and ready to rock http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Hehe...actually I could sleep pretty good...I would sweat like hell...but could still sleep...had to make sure I didn't take any past 4pm though...but nothing a lil 10mg Valium couldn't take of if anything... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
On a side note...I went and took a ride back to see my "nutritionist" after about 2 years...just being in his gym...taking a deep breath of that fresh air...ahhhhh... has me gettin the bug again I think http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
RepulsioN 02-15-2004, 08:30 PM SicShift said:
BLK03GSXR said:
I think the theory behind that is, that low intensity Cardio uses Fat as a Fuel Source, you burn lower overall Calories, but a higher percent from Fat. When you do a high intensity Cardio, you burn more calories, but less of a percentage comes from Fat.
I'm not too sure about that. Maybe oldgixxer can straighten us out. I always base fast cardio vs slow cardio by comparing the physique of an olympic sprinter vs an opympic marathon runner. The sprinter will be very cut and muscular because he burns his calories and fat in short fast intervals. Most marathon runners are very spindly and small because their slow pace for long distances will eventually begin to burn off their muscle as a fuel source. I think fast paced cardio burns more fat/calories and less muscle.
I'm not an expert though so I welcome other opinions.
The differences in physiques has to do with muscle fiber types and anaerobic activity vs. aerobic activity. Many times people think that cardiovascular excercise is the exact same thing as aerobic activity.
Cardiovascular activity is anything that keeps your heart pumping at a higher rate for a sustained period of time for the purpose of building your heart muscle.
The word 'aerobic' means 'with oxygen,' while 'anaerobic' means 'without oxygen.'
Sprinters run at maximum force for short periods of time. They are relying on primarily fast-twitch muscle fibers and are using their muscles glycogen stores to move them fast distances in short times.
A marathon runner builds up primarily slow-twitch muscle fibers that rely on large amounts of oxygen for sustained activity. The muscles are generally not as massive as they don't require as many muscle fibers to produce force. Long term aerobic activity like that however can often have a very negative effect due to excessive wear of your bones and joints and the body eventually turns to muscle catabolization. (breaking down muscle fiber for fuel)
If you're looking for the perfect physique like a sprinter, ask what their workout routine is. They often spend more time in the gym than they do sprinting because the muscles are so important whereas the marathon runner just runs and runs and runs.
I good mix of both are great for overall health. Personally, I go for medium-high intensity so I don't spend all day on cardio (usually around 30-40 minutes) but once or twice a week I will do cardio for 1-1.5 hours just to mix things up. It's all aobut preventing adaptation and having a dynamic workout routine for maximum results.
Sic shift has it about right http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
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