Im having a really hard time deciding what kind of rig i want to wear once i get my permit.

Id like one with clips(no messing with a belt) and is IWB and i can adjust the cant. More than likely ill wear it on my hip with a forward cant.
ideas,suggestions?

maybe this one made by cross breed holsters.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/Portals/0/Images/QC_Large.jpg

Im having a really hard time deciding what kind of rig i want to wear once i get my permit.

Id like one with clips(no messing with a belt) and is IWB and i can adjust the cant. More than likely ill wear it on my hip with a forward cant.
ideas,suggestions?

maybe this one made by cross breed holsters.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/Portals/0/Images/QC_Large.jpg

For IWB, thats a good holster, and Galco summer comfort. I have a galco summer comfort IWB for every pistol I own. I also have a blackhawk serpa for each one for outside the hip carry. Lots of choices, you get what you pay for:cheers Galco and blackhawk are spendy, (about 35-55 bucks a holster, not terrible) but well worth it. There are other great holsters also, I'm sure others will chime in.

For IWB, thats a good holster, and Galco summer comfort. I have a galco summer comfort IWB for every pistol I own. I also have a blackhawk serpa for each one for outside the hip carry. Lots of choices, you get what you pay for:cheers Galco and blackhawk are spendy, (about 35-55 bucks a holster, not terrible) but well worth it. There are other great holsters also, I'm sure others will chime in.

ill def check out the galco. Seems like the black is the only thing they have available. Getting the shooters pack with the gun for relatively cheap so ill see how it feels.
http://www.gunreports.com/media/newspics/fn-shooters-pack.jpg

What kind of gun are you going to be carrying? I picked up a tagua gunleather holster when I was in Georgia this summer. I'm not sure where all they sell it but it was 30 some bucks and seems to be really good quality. It's called the quick draw belt holster and has a slight cant to it. I carry a glock 22 in it and it stays perfectly hidden. The leather is pretty thick and the stiching is really good.

the gun pictured in that photo. fnp-9 comparable in size to an XD 45

I have a few and what you're describing is probably a COPM-TAC. Check out their site, specifically the C-TAC and Minotaur.

I wear my DeSantis Scorpion Kydex more than anything these days.

(Not me, I wish I owned belts this cool. lol)
https://store.forestandfield.com/images/desantis/DESANTIS038.jpg

I've got several CCW holsters(fav brand is Galco).

But, my most used by far is a cheap small waist pack w a G26(and not one designed to carry a pistol. most cops can spot those a mile away).

I hear good things about Cross breed.

comp tac too....... but they dont make a rig to fit one of my pistols, and the other well I dont need a fancy rig for it.

I hear good things about Cross breed.

comp tac too....... but they dont make a rig to fit one of my pistols, and the other well I dont need a fancy rig for it.

What do you have that they don't make a holster for? They make them for about everything and the best part is if they don't have one for your application simply call/email them and they'll make it. My buddy needed a cross draw for his Glock34 and TL1 light and had it in use a few weeks later. Great customer service.

I've got several CCW holsters(fav brand is Galco).

But, my most used by far is a cheap small waist pack w a G26(and not one designed to carry a pistol. most cops can spot those a mile away).

I too wear a G26 in the exact holster that I pictured and you would be pretty hard pressed to spot it even when I had a job where I wore tucked in shirts, nice pants and ties.

BTW, why is it such a bad thing that cops can spot your gun? Seems to me that's like saying the 3rd base manager knows your catcher's signals to the pitcher. Not really who you're trying to hide it from anyway.

What do you have that they don't make a holster for? They make them for about everything and the best part is if they don't have one for your application simply call/email them and they'll make it. My buddy needed a cross draw for his Glock34 and TL1 light and had it in use a few weeks later. Great customer service.


Taurus MilPro PT111.... and I asked, and they said no :dunno

I too wear a G26 in the exact holster that I pictured and you would be pretty hard pressed to spot it even when I had a job where I wore tucked in shirts, nice pants and ties.

BTW, why is it such a bad thing that cops can spot your gun? Seems to me that's like saying the 3rd base manager knows your catcher's signals to the pitcher. Not really who you're trying to hide it from anyway.

I dont care if a cop spots it for the most part, other than the FACT (I have had it happen once already) that a lot of them dont know the damn laws they are sworn to, and will harass you even when you are legal.... and tell you that you are carrying illegally etc.

But if a cop can see it, a bad guy can too........ and if he does, who is his first target going to be? Element of surprise is worth a lot.

With that said, MOST criminals will be too self absorbed in their dirty deeds to notice fine details like that. Adrenaline is a bitch in that way..... but if he is a PRO, and they are out there, he is likely to notice and look for things like that.

Taurus MilPro PT111.... and I asked, and they said no :dunno

Racists!

It can fit in some glock leather holsters, and a few other makes as well... but not kydex of course.

It can fit in some glock leather holsters, and a few other makes as well... but not kydex of course.

Depending on how close it is you can always heat up the Kydex and form it a little better to what you need. Trim here and bend there. Kydex is some pretty cool stuff if you've never played with it.

Not close enough I am sure.

The biggest hangup is the trigger guard design on the taurus is too different. Much larger.

Not close enough I am sure.

The biggest hangup is the trigger guard design on the taurus is too different. Much larger.

Get a better gun? :dunno



:biggrin :flipoff

I can fairly consistently hit the kill zone of a silhouette out at 100yds, and have never had a FTF or anything with it........ :phhht

I can fairly consistently hit the kill zone of a silhouette out at 100yds, and have never had a FTF or anything with it........ :phhht

You're engaging targets w/a handgun at 100yds why?

Also, doesn't do you much good if you can't find a holster to reliably carry it. I was mostly joking but I guess there was some degree of seriousness to that portion.

I can reliably carry it, just not as comfortably as I like..... dilly stole that one anyway.


As far as the targets at 100yds. Simple. As the instructor I was working with explained, if you get where you can reliably hit at 100yds, then 50yds seems EASY. With it that comes faster site aquisition, and follow up shots. Then move that to 25 yds, then to 12.... then to straffing..... and the improvement is VERY obvious. Try it.

You are FORCED to do it right at that distance.

Just for a trick to prove a point......... a point that the ONLY thing that matters is keeping your sites aligned and keeping them there....... he would actually hit at 200yds probably 5 of 10 shots. He also was shooting nearly 100% accurate with his G40 upside down, standing on one foot, pulling the trigger with his pinkie. His point was making excuses like "must be my grip, must be my stance, must be my trigger pull" etc are moot points if you do ONE thing...... keep the sites ON the target until it goes bang.

Not to mention it is cool to say you can when the nay sayers claim "a sub compact pistol is not accurate past 25yds" or whatever.

:D

The barrel is staight is it not?...... then it will hit (within reason) where you point it...... period. Are you going to have a tack driver even if you put it in a mechanical grip at 100yds? No. but the gun will hit a target at that far every time...... if it can do it in a mechanical grip, it can do it in a human grip.

I can fairly consistently hit the kill zone of a silhouette out at 100yds, and have never had a FTF or anything with it........ :phhht

With a millenium? Thats a 3 " barrel isnt it? How many shots are in the kill zone? And whats the kill zone for you?

With a millenium? Thats a 3 " barrel isnt it? How many shots are in the kill zone? And whats the kill zone for you?


Yes, and yes. probably 7-8 of 10 shots I guess :scratch after practice

The targets we were using were steel "coke bottle" targets similar to the center portion of this paper target, but not quite a long. It would stop just about where our ribs stop.

http://www.ordertree.com/images/45759-25YardPoliceSilhouetteTargetFull.gif

Actually more like this one, really close to this, out to the 8 or 6 whatever it is, I cant see it on my computer

http://www.teamspartan.com/images/tq21awis.jpg

You'll have to show my your subcompact skillz when you come to Colorado because trained shooters rarely draw their standard frame handgun past 50yds if their primary has a malfunction. Most will take cover and correct the malfunction before drawing a sidearm past 50yds. That's generally the magical distance. 100yds with a subcompact is not generally advised and if you instructor is teaching this I would find a new instructor. If someone is 100yds away and you're shooting at them with a handgun you're doing something wrong anyway. At that point I would be running a random serpentine pattern to cover and finding my rifle or simply getting the hell out of there if no rifle as accessible.

Yes, and yes. probably 7-8 of 10 shots I guess :scratch after practice

The targets we were using were steel "coke bottle" targets similar to the center portion of this paper target, but not quite a long. It would stop just about where our ribs stop.

http://www.ordertree.com/images/45759-25YardPoliceSilhouetteTargetFull.gif

Thats REALLY good. You need to make a vid. I'm decent at 50 yards with my G20 on deer targets. But not remotely that accurate at 100yards. I wouldnt even consider taking a 100 yard shot and that gun is VERY accurate. At 25 yards I put every shot on a paper plate. At 50 10/15 shots. at 100 I was lucky to get 7/15

It is not taught as a "use this in a combat situation" type thing. It is something to bring skills up all around, so that up close where you need them, they are that much more sharp.


Liken it to Playing B-Ball with weights on your ankles, and those shoes that build your calfs by making you stay on your toes. It would be retarded to try to do either of those during game time....... but they help train your muscles and such better for game time. That is the best example I could come up with.

BTW, this is One on One instruction....... He does not teach quite the same for groups, for fear of peopel taking it JUST like you did........ I need to take shots at 100yds in combat. Not the case.

The guy is a former Army Ranger, and is a firearms instructor for most of south florida (not counting the big cities that have their own instructors) for the LE community. He has been doing it a LONG time.... and there was MUCH MUCH more in the lessons........ this was a small part of it.

and if nothing else.......... it is a confidence booster..... and that counts for more than some people can imagine in anything "performance" oriented. Just like visualisation. If you think you cant........ you surely cant. If you KNOW you can, then you probably can

Video?

Nope. Dont have any. And I dont have a target or a range that is that long near me. This was done near LaBelle FL with a buddy of mine "Ranger Drew" :lol

Here is the original psot from the next day after I think.

Can I do it "at a whim" nope. But after getting the feel back, I am sure I could rather shortly...... a few mags in I would be back accurate enough to say "consistent" I think.

http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=52348.0


I DO have to MAKE A POINT though, that this was the first time (it says 2 of 12) . I did it another time, and got to maybe 7 out of 12 (not 10 like I first said, because my mag holds 12, not 10).

I don't use my sights so I don't attempt those distances with a handgun very often. I train differently. If I'm not going to be doing it I don't train for it.

I don't use my sights so I don't attempt those distances with a handgun very often. I train differently. If I'm not going to be doing it I don't train for it.


Whatever floats your boat :dunno

did you ever play sports? Never run drills? Most drills cant be used EXACTLY like they are done in a game. But they improve skills that ARE used in the game.

No difference here. :dunno.

The BULK of training is done to simulate real world use, to get the quickest real world muscle memory you can get (without actually shooting real people that is :lol) But I thing drills that have a point are very beneficial in any performance situation

Whatever floats your boat :dunno

did you ever play sports? Never run drills? Most drills cant be used EXACTLY like they are done in a game. But they improve skills that ARE used in the game.

No difference here. :dunno.

The BULK of training is done to simulate real world use, to get the quickest real world muscle memory you can get (without actually shooting real people that is :lol) But I thing drills that have a point are very beneficial in any performance situation

I don't see Olympic runners using 9' hurdles to practice. Never seen Michael Phelps practice on a mile long pool. What's the point?

I practice up close and personal because should I ever need to use my handgun that's where it will be. To me it's more important to 'know' where my handguns will shoot so I don't have to 'aim' when the SHTF. Even handgun competitions don't go past 50yds.

I don't see Olympic runners using 9' hurdles to practice. Never seen Michael Phelps practice on a mile long pool. What's the point?

I practice up close and personal because should I ever need to use my handgun that's where it will be. To me it's more important to 'know' where my handguns will shoot so I don't have to 'aim' when the SHTF. Even handgun competitions don't go past 50yds.


You dont think they train to be able to jump higher, easier, and you dont think Phelps swims WAYyyyyyyyyyy longer distances than he would in competition :wacko.


I am not saying go out and shoot targets all day at 50 or 100yds.

First he had me shoot "real world" at 15yds, standing still, and moving. Document the performance.

Then we shot a few mags at that far, then moved it in incrementally to 15yds, then did "real world" practice again.... the improvement was very pronounced. At the long yards, I had to "aim" but at the short yards My hands and arms just knew were to be..... and were able to return to that faster, and more consistently.

Then when I returned to do it again, the improvement was STILL there.

It is similar to the "go slow to go fast" technique used in racing. At anything clsoe to %100 you quit learning. You are surviving. Rushing things. Pushing harder than you should. Slowing down to learn, makes it easier to go fsat when you chose to do so.

same here sortof. Shooting farther, slower, and more deliberate, made it easier to shoot up close rapidly and consistently.

damn whoring it up guys :lol i dont care


so after talking to a few more people i was told OWB is more comfortable to most people and easier to holster and such.

Is there any real benefit to one over the other? Im a skiny guy and figured if i could carry IWB i wouldnt look so damn skiny :lmao

At yoru size and build, good luck hiding ANY gun, let alone the one you chose.... unless you wear yoru clothes at least one size too big, if not two.

IWb generally is easier to conceal.

Sure, OWB is easier to holster, but when carrying, holstering is the last of your worries...... if it comes out..... you wont worry much about what happens after that I am sure

any time you have seen me, and I wasnt actually riding, I was armed........ did you know it? Or could you tell? I would bet not.

any time you have seen me, and I wasnt actually riding, I was armed........ did you know it? Or could you tell? I would bet not.

yea i know im a skiny fucker. I think ill eventually get that single stack taurus i held. It would be a good pocket gun.

And yes i knew you were carrying because I saw you put the damn thing in your pocket:lol now if I didnt know you had one and always carried then no I wouldnt have noticed it. That .38 is pretty small anyways.

The new Taurus slim, or something like it (Kahr PM9, Walther PPS 9 etc) will be my next purchase for sure.... tos lot between the double stack 9mm and my .38

The new Taurus slim, or something like it (Kahr PM9, Walther PPS 9 etc) will be my next purchase for sure.... tos lot between the double stack 9mm and my .38
this is the one i held. bigger than the .380 obviously but still easily concealed and the grip was actually long enough i could get every finger on unlike a Sub compact XD.
http://www.taurususa.com/2009newcatalog/images/02.jpg

and that is the one I was talking about :thumbup

The Walther PPS is almost exactly the same size, but the grip is a LOT thicker, and I didnt like it., I have yet to see one side by side with the Kahr PM9 though

The Walther PPS is almost exactly the same size, but the grip is a LOT thicker, and I didnt like it., I have yet to see one side by side with the Kahr PM9 though

hmm never held the walther. he showed me his kahr. it was an older model but they were relatively the same size just the kahr was heavier and alot more $$$. priced at $500 in the shop i knew it was overpriced big time. they are on gunbroker for $360 on average

hmm never held the walther. he showed me his kahr. it was an older model but they were relatively the same size just the kahr was heavier and alot more $$$. priced at $500 in the shop i knew it was overpriced big time. they are on gunbroker for $360 on average
If it was heavy, it was probably the CM9 I think it is. The PM9 is a composite bodied gun, where the CM9 is a steel frame I think :scratch

If it was heavy, it was probably the CM9 I think it is. The PM9 is a composite bodied gun, where the CM9 is a steel frame I think :scratch

it was steel framed. was a real pretty gun but i prefer function over glam

OWB in the winter:cheers IWB in the summer

Taurus is really stepping up their products. They have almost COPIED the XDM with the HI Cap guns, it looks almost identical:lol

I have a Taurus 24/7 Pro 9mm and it conceals very comfortably IWB with a galco summer comfort. Its a double stack 17+1 mag gun. I carry behind my back, above my wallet, both OWB and IWB. I wear a T shirt and jeans and you can't tell I have it. I don't know your body type, I'm 6 ft 185lbs, fit. (not a body builder, but just in good shape.)

OWB in the winter:cheers IWB in the summer

Taurus is really stepping up their products. They have almost COPIED the XDM with the HI Cap guns, it looks almost identical:lol

I have a Taurus 24/7 Pro 9mm and it conceals very comfortably IWB with a galco summer comfort. Its a double stack 17+1 mag gun. I carry behind my back, above my wallet, both OWB and IWB. I wear a T shirt and jeans and you can't tell I have it. I don't know your body type, I'm 6 ft 185lbs, fit. (not a body builder, but just in good shape.)

im 6' 140lbs very lean:lol still decent upper body for my weight but 39-30" waste and bird legs.

What made you pick carrying on your back?

What made you pick carrying on your back?

Put it in the back above your wallet and sit in a car or on the bike, or anywhere, and bend over to tie your shoe. Now do those things when its holstered in the front. OWB I use the back 80% of the time, with a hooded shirt I can conceal on the side just fine also, but more concealed at the back above the wallet.

One more thing, "GIVE ME YOUR WALLET!" as he holds a knife. Ok, heres my wallet mother fucker.:lol

I cary my P2000 in a galco skyops IWB. its got an adjustable cant to it and its very slim and has a great feel to it. it was about $60 online, but well worth it. im about 5'8"ish and pushing 215... so you cant see anything when im wearing a t-shirt. I looked at the summer comfort as well, but i like that you can hardly see the clips on the skyops. it slides between my jeans and my belt, then clips over and under my belt. oh, and you can tuck in a dress shirt or whatever and only see the small clips. here are some pics i googled.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/ki_soarer/galco_skyops.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/ki_soarer/skyops2lp6.jpg

I cary my P2000 in a galco skyops IWB. its got an adjustable cant to it and its very slim and has a great feel to it. it was about $60 online, but well worth it. im about 5'8"ish and pushing 215... so you cant see anything when im wearing a t-shirt. I looked at the summer comfort as well, but i like that you can hardly see the clips on the skyops. it slides between my jeans and my belt, then clips over and under my belt. oh, and you can tuck in a dress shirt or whatever and only see the small clips. here are some pics i googled.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/ki_soarer/galco_skyops.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/ki_soarer/skyops2lp6.jpg

^ thats my next trial holster. I wear a belt, and those look good also. Galco makes some of the most comfortable holsters Ive ever worn. Is tht a leather holster, like the summer comfort?

IWB FTW

Especially if concealment is a concern which it should be in your case. I'm a decent size guy and I can tell you that I carry IWB after years of OWB and for those that say it's less comfortable you need to find another holster. The problem with OWB is that it can and does shift around on you and you're constantly having to adjust and fight it. With IWB you know RIGHT where it is and there's no bottom part of the holster constantly sticking out from under your shirts. Not to mention you can't tuck with an OWB unless you're going full on duty holster which I also do. If I'm wearing a shirt and tie w/nice pants I will occasionally duty carry with a nice thumb break leather holster because I look like a detective or something so people don't even think twice when they see it. You should see the way some thugs look at me sometimes though... priceless. Like they want to do something but are pretty sure I would crush them in a heartbeat w/o even breaking a sweat. lol The point is that both have their place but personally I prefer IWB and this Scorpion that I use looks uncomfortable as hell but truthfully it's one of if not THE Most comfortable because I'm not constantly fighting it. It goes in place and is the most solid holster I own and it stays put and I don't think about it again until the end of the day when I take it off. Other more 'comfortable' and adjustable holsters might seem comfortable initially but if you wear one all day you will find that they are more frustrating if you're constantly adjusting and shifting it.

Anyway, the key here is how YOU feel wearing it and my point is to not let John Doe convince you to not even try a certain way since what he likes (or me for that matter) is trash and you shouldn't check into it. Go into a store and start trying shit on and be prepared to own several and spend hundreds over the next couple of years until you find something that's just right for YOU.

damn good information guys :cheers

now being it is hot as hell nearly 9 months out of the year here wouldnt leather be a negative?i think of every time id get in my old truck mid summer and sticking to the seat and shit. :dunno

damn good information guys :cheers

now being it is hot as hell nearly 9 months out of the year here wouldnt leather be a negative?i think of every time id get in my old truck mid summer and sticking to the seat and shit. :dunno

I have a holster attatched in my truck for my .45

I havnt had any issues with leather in the summer, unless I'm walking or doing something to make me sweat. Leather only gets hot if its in direct sun light. The holster is behind your waistband of your pants, and shirt, so no sticking has ever happened to me. Leather is FTW IMO.

so far the one KI posted is my favorite. I like the clip and the the small frame without having some huge ass clip or some big sheet of leather like a super tuck.

I like the one your posted as well but the snaps just dont do it for me. Neither does threading in a belt buckle.

Now when you carry it on your back do you use a left side holster so your knuckles are toward your back or stay with a right like shown in the picture KI posted and cant it forward?

so far the one KI posted is my favorite. I like the clip and the the small frame without having some huge ass clip or some big sheet of leather like a super tuck.

I like the one your posted as well but the snaps just dont do it for me. Neither does threading in a belt buckle.

Now when you carry it on your back do you use a left side holster so your knuckles are toward your back or stay with a right like shown in the picture KI posted and cant it forward?

Like I said, there's always a trade off. Smaller clips and anchor points have less of a tendency to stay where you put them and shift around and make me uncomfortable to draw from too since they aren't as secure as something with 'huge ass clips' or something. I have some of the smaller clip style like what's posted and while I thought it would work better it ended up being more of a PITA fighting it all the time than anything. Also, stay away from anything with a metal clip for a couple reasons 1) the metal can 'relax' over time making them less reliable for holding and 2) you will scratch the shit out of car doors getting into your car and walking past your car. It will stick out an extra few inches and really makes you notice how close you walk to shit and close your hip is to the painted outside of your car just behind the door getting in and out of your car. I fucked up the paint pretty badly on my newer Silverado SS getting in and out a couple times and I was even trying to be careful. Good thing I was selling it because it would have cost a pretty penny to fix as it was pretty large and all the way to the metal. There's a lot to take into consideration when holster shopping.

Now when you carry it on your back do you use a left side holster so your knuckles are toward your back or stay with a right like shown in the picture KI posted and cant it forward?

Stay with a right

Country, I still cant decide when I go small of the back, if I like a left or a right better....... good thing for me is I am lefty..... because I lean more towards mu knuckles to my back to draw from back there.

V2 says he prefers the other way.......

everyone is different

the one i have is leather. as for it staying where you put it, i have been using it for about 7 or 8 months now, and i havent had it move on my belt yet. i was leary of how flimsy the clip looks, but i havent broken one yet. they also make replacment clips for like 15 bucs if you do happen to break one.

what i did was go into my local gun store that had a large varriety of IWB holsters and i tried them all on with my pistol to see which one was more comfortable.... then i found it cheaper online. lol.

For a 1911, you're probably going to wear IWB for a short while and get tired of it. I personally find it too big, the handle sticks out too far and the barrel is too long. But then again everyone is different and you might find it comfortable. I'm really looking for a decent shoulder rig for my 1911, or a standard belt holster (not IWB).

For my kahr p40, I originally had a galco that lasted 6 mo before the clip broke. I've had a don hume for over a year and no issues so far. Same goes for my girlfriends don hume and her kel-tec pf9.

Like I said, there's always a trade off. Smaller clips and anchor points have less of a tendency to stay where you put them and shift around and make me uncomfortable to draw from too since they aren't as secure as something with 'huge ass clips' or something. I have some of the smaller clip style like what's posted and while I thought it would work better it ended up being more of a PITA fighting it all the time than anything. Also, stay away from anything with a metal clip for a couple reasons 1) the metal can 'relax' over time making them less reliable for holding and 2) you will scratch the shit out of car doors getting into your car and walking past your car. It will stick out an extra few inches and really makes you notice how close you walk to shit and close your hip is to the painted outside of your car just behind the door getting in and out of your car. I fucked up the paint pretty badly on my newer Silverado SS getting in and out a couple times and I was even trying to be careful. Good thing I was selling it because it would have cost a pretty penny to fix as it was pretty large and all the way to the metal. There's a lot to take into consideration when holster shopping.
will keep that in mind. having problems finding holsters specifically made for my gun but was told XDs and glock 21s are the same size. well see:shifty
Country, I still cant decide when I go small of the back, if I like a left or a right better....... good thing for me is I am lefty..... because I lean more towards mu knuckles to my back to draw from back there.

V2 says he prefers the other way.......

everyone is different
taken it into account.
For a 1911, you're probably going to wear IWB for a short while and get tired of it. I personally find it too big, the handle sticks out too far and the barrel is too long. But then again everyone is different and you might find it comfortable. I'm really looking for a decent shoulder rig for my 1911, or a standard belt holster (not IWB).

For my kahr p40, I originally had a galco that lasted 6 mo before the clip broke. I've had a don hume for over a year and no issues so far. Same goes for my girlfriends don hume and her kel-tec pf9.

im not carrying a 1911:lol that was just a picture i found online.

THe main problem im having is i have no place around here that has a good selection of holsters. the pawn shop has uncle mikes, sportsmans warehouse has some but its hit or miss, and the actual gun shop is abunch of uptight pricks and id rather not have them bashing my gun or what fits me.

^ You'll have to order one. I had to order all of mine, except for my Blackhawk Serpa Holsters.

im not carrying a 1911:lol that was just a picture i found online.

THe main problem im having is i have no place around here that has a good selection of holsters. the pawn shop has uncle mikes, sportsmans warehouse has some but its hit or miss, and the actual gun shop is abunch of uptight pricks and id rather not have them bashing my gun or what fits me.

Whoops, my bad. :D

Got any gun shows in your area...usually lots of holsters there.

well i have good news and bad news. Good news is i got the fnp9 today. Bad news is im just way to skiny to get away with carrying this thing. In the winter time yes and hunting but i think im going to go ahead and purchase a taurus 709 slim when i get the chance.

But im going to start doing IDPA and more pistol matches so im still happy about my purchase :punk

I could have told you you would be hard pressed to conceal that thing :lol. I am bigger than you, and have a hard time concealing the smaller Taurus MilPro. :lol

The only way is for me to wear the larger of my shirts to hide it. Anything that fits properly, and it is a bitch for me to hide

I could have told you you would be hard pressed to conceal that thing :lol. I am bigger than you, and have a hard time concealing the smaller Taurus MilPro. :lol

The only way is for me to wear the larger of my shirts to hide it. Anything that fits properly, and it is a bitch for me to hide

Thats the upside to having a winter here, wearing a hooded sweatshirt conceals about ANY gun OWB and IWB:biggrin

I could have told you you would be hard pressed to conceal that thing :lol. I am bigger than you, and have a hard time concealing the smaller Taurus MilPro. :lol

The only way is for me to wear the larger of my shirts to hide it. Anything that fits properly, and it is a bitch for me to hide

i own two large shirts:lmao I could carry is in the small of my back but id still have to purchase a left holster with a muzzle up cant. I kinda figured I wouldnt be able to ccw it but im still happy about my purchase. Heck if i wanted to i could make some money and sell it to a friend but im not. Im guessing your talking about your 9mm. The revolver fits nicely in your pocket im sure.

Thats the upside to having a winter here, wearing a hooded sweatshirt conceals about ANY gun OWB and IWB:biggrin
Yeah, winter is MUCH easier. But summer..... FACK its too damn hot to wear giant shit :lol

i own two large shirts:lmao I could carry is in the small of my back but id still have to purchase a left holster with a muzzle up cant. I kinda figured I wouldnt be able to ccw it but im still happy about my purchase. Heck if i wanted to i could make some money and sell it to a friend but im not. Im guessing your talking about your 9mm. The revolver fits nicely in your pocket im sure.

Your gun should fit IWB with a Tshirt untucked over it, just over your wallet. The only time I see anything is bending at the waist and having the print show on my shirt, otherwise nobody can tell ( from what I'm told). This way the gun is pressed to your lower back, and the t shirt covers it. Or I'm missing something here that your doing different.:dunno

Your gun should fit IWB with a Tshirt untucked over it, just over your wallet. The only time I see anything is bending at the waist and having the print show on my shirt, otherwise nobody can tell ( from what I'm told). This way the gun is pressed to your lower back, and the t shirt covers it. Or I'm missing something here that your doing different.:dunno

alrights lets see i have a 29 inch waist. Measuring just my back from side to side(my siluette) is about 10 inches. Now cut that in half=5in from the top of the slide to the bottom of the mag is 5.25 " do you understand now why i said the end of the grip sticks out my shirt?

this is what i was refering to. More over the left buttocks though
http://www.athenapolicesupply.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GALMOB-2T.jpg

alrights lets see i have a 29 inch waist. Measuring just my back from side to side(my siluette) is about 10 inches. Now cut that in half=5in from the top of the slide to the bottom of the mag is 5.25 " do you understand now why i said the end of the grip sticks out my shirt?

this is what i was refering to. More over the left buttocks though
http://www.athenapolicesupply.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GALMOB-2T.jpg

Flip that around so the grip is the other way, then it will be flat against your
back. Like I said, I'm right handed, and stick to a right handed holster, so the handle points toward the middle of my back. Take the gun and flip it around (empty of course) and see what I wean, draw it like that once, keep the barrel cated from the top of your wallet, down toward your ass hole at a slight angle.

like this but I use a smaller gun, this is a googled picture

Flip that around so the grip is the other way, then it will be flat against your
back. Like I said, I'm right handed, and stick to a right handed holster, so the handle points toward the middle of my back. Take the gun and flip it around (empty of course) and see what I wean, draw it like that once, keep the barrel cated from the top of your wallet, down toward your ass hole at a slight angle.
It is still comfortable that way and your right it does conceal good but i
I feel much more comfortable drawing palm out. It just feels more natural i guess. I can flick off the safety alot easier as well with my thumb.

It is still comfortable that way and your right it does conceal good but i
I feel much more comfortable drawing palm out. It just feels more natural i guess. I can flick off the safety alot easier as well with my thumb.

Cool. To each his own. My safety is on the left side of the gun, and I'm right handed, andI can hit the safety with my thumb. unless you buy a real gun like an XD :lol

jk

Or use a gun with no true safety :D

Or use a gun with no true safety :D

As stated:lol Trying to talk him into an XD now

Cool. To each his own. My safety is on the left side of the gun, and I'm right handed, andI can hit the safety with my thumb. unless you buy a real gun like an XD :lol

jk
mine is ambi and i can hit it with my thumb. its just easier with with the gun not pressing against my back :thumbup and I like XDs alot. I was going to get an XD compact in OD green 9mm but chose the FN because i get it cheap ;)

heres a pic
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww180/Country_boy_88_2008/0827195742.jpg

All you girly men need to eat more, hit the gym and bulk up. I can conceal my AR15 in the middle of summer if I wanted. :biggrin

All you girly men need to eat more, hit the gym and bulk up. I can conceal my AR15 in the middle of summer if I wanted. :biggrin

:spit

What was your weight Countryboy? I thought you said like 140? I know it was a light weight. I used to be about 160 like 3 years ago. Then I REALLY hit the gym and food, moved into 170, now hold steady at about 185 with 3 days a week lifting, and 3 days a week in MMA. I can't conceal an AR like Jer though, he's probably pushing 230:biggrin

:spit

What was your weight Countryboy? I thought you said like 140? I know it was a light weight. I used to be about 160 like 3 years ago. Then I REALLY hit the gym and food, moved into 170, now hold steady at about 185 with 3 days a week lifting, and 3 days a week in MMA. I can't conceal an AR like Jer though, he's probably pushing 230:biggrin

Keep going weenstick.

Keep going weenstick.

250. What, you look like brock lesnar or something? :shifty



:p

250. What, you look like brock lesnar or something? :shifty



:p

Nah, I've got about 100lbs on you and no, I don't look like that no necked thug. My wife would leave me if I looked anything like him because she hates that man and says he looks like he stinks like the worst B.O. ever. :biggrin

Nah, I've got about 100lbs on you and no, I don't look like that no necked thug. My wife would leave me if I looked anything like him because she hates that man and says he looks like he stinks like the worst B.O. ever. :biggrin

Whats your height?

Whats your height?

4' 11"

4' 11"

Get the fuck out of here:lmao

Get the fuck out of here:lmao

5' 3" in heels. :lmao

5' 3" in heels. :lmao

Is your bike lowered :lol

Is your bike lowered :lol

Lowered AND stretched.:biggrin

is this yours jer :lol
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/changbanging/bike.jpg

I found country boy's :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXZDgnkAmdc

is this yours jer :lol
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/changbanging/bike.jpg

Hells yeah! :punk

I found country boy's :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXZDgnkAmdc

Bwa! You may wanna have your forks checked after that first head-on Country. :lmao

I found country boy's :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXZDgnkAmdc

Kinda looks like his riding for sure :p

Kinda looks like his riding for sure :p

:spit i think i saw his foot slip off the peg too:lmao

:shifty got the taurus 709 today :p

Next time you fuck up your bike, and I have to fix it, you will have to bring it by :D

Next time you fuck up your bike, and I have to fix it, you will have to bring it by :D

will do:cheers if not im sure ill see you at a TD soon enough. Ill make a new thread after i snap some pics comparing the two guns. shot 200 rounds between the two of them today :punk