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pushindalimit
01-21-2004, 02:35 AM
I installed the D-Link "g" system on my laptop. I got it to work but there is one issue that I can't figure out. The encryption.... Whenever I try to encrypt it the base system cannot get the signal from the card in the laptop. Is there something I need to put into the hex# (??)to allow the card signal to be accepted. It defalts to a series of 0's for both the 64k encryption and the 128k encryption as well.The manuel does not give any information for this part of the process. Also, what is the difference between the 2 levels of secutity???

Thanks....

P.S. Earthlink sucks for DSL

SomeFknGuy
01-21-2004, 08:54 AM
basically the ecryption is a keyset you have to create on the base station then put the same keyset into the laptop....
64 bit and 128 bit are just different strengths of encryption, but if i were you, and i dont know if dlink does it, but with my linksys i just turn on MAC filtering, only allows certain mac addresses to be presnt on my wireless network....just a thought!

Skibo
01-21-2004, 09:30 AM
pushindalimit said:
I installed the D-Link "g" system on my laptop. I got it to work but there is one issue that I can't figure out. The encryption.... Whenever I try to encrypt it the base system cannot get the signal from the card in the laptop. Is there something I need to put into the hex# (??)to allow the card signal to be accepted. It defalts to a series of 0's for both the 64k encryption and the 128k encryption as well.The manuel does not give any information for this part of the process. Also, what is the difference between the 2 levels of secutity???

Thanks....

P.S. Earthlink sucks for DSL


I had a problem with dlink dropping me all the time. But my buddie uses dlink and his works fine. All you need to do is just slam a bunch of keys on your keyboard numbers and letters. then take the exact same "set" and type it in on your other piece of equipment. make sure they are both on the same channel and make sure your firmware for your router is updated. Make sure your drivers for your notebook card are updated.

pushindalimit
01-22-2004, 03:30 AM
SomeFknGuy said:
basically the ecryption is a keyset you have to create on the base station then put the same keyset into the laptop....
64 bit and 128 bit are just different strengths of encryption, but if i were you, and i dont know if dlink does it, but with my linksys i just turn on MAC filtering, only allows certain mac addresses to be presnt on my wireless network....just a thought!




Thanks.... I tried the lynksys system and it does not work with earthlink..... Earthlink(scumbags) told me that it will work as long as I sign up to their home networking sytem (10 bucks a month).......

Once again Earthlink Sucks......

pushindalimit
01-22-2004, 03:31 AM
Thanks for the input.... I don't know if I have the mac feature though.....

Once again-Earthlink Sucks

SomeFknGuy
01-22-2004, 05:37 AM
why wouldnt the linksys work? the linksys and d-link do the exact same thing, what i would do if i were you, buy a linksys, put it in place of the d-link, have one machine hard wired to the linksys, then turn on mac address cloning, basically, what the linksys will do, is set the mac address that earthlink sees as one of your computers, not that of a router....how would earthlink know any different?

Bostitch
01-22-2004, 09:10 AM
SomeFknGuy said:
why wouldnt the linksys work? the linksys and d-link do the exact same thing, what i would do if i were you, buy a linksys, put it in place of the d-link, have one machine hard wired to the linksys, then turn on mac address cloning, basically, what the linksys will do, is set the mac address that earthlink sees as one of your computers, not that of a router....how would earthlink know any different?



Ya exactly. I think there is a router configuration problem on your end. Could you possibly post up some photos of the router interface so we can have a look? We can probably help you with you WEP and MAC config. too. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

pushindalimit
01-22-2004, 11:48 PM
SomeFknGuy said:
why wouldnt the linksys work? the linksys and d-link do the exact same thing, what i would do if i were you, buy a linksys, put it in place of the d-link, have one machine hard wired to the linksys, then turn on mac address cloning, basically, what the linksys will do, is set the mac address that earthlink sees as one of your computers, not that of a router....how would earthlink know any different?



I was on the phone w/ lynksys for 3+ hours..... They could not get the wireless to recieve an IP address. They said that it has to be an issue with the modem.

I emailed earthlink (approx 25 email exchange) and they finally said that the lynksys system does not work unless you buy the "Home networking package". The Rep @ best buy and a guy standing around the counter said that the d-link 634g(??) was the only system that would work with earthlink because it is programmable. I hooked it up and it worked, surprised the shit out of me.

I thought there was an easy answer, but i guess not.

I will call d-link and get there assistance setting the security.

Thanks for all the input fellas http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Once again--Earthlink Sucks!!!!

SomeFknGuy
01-23-2004, 06:51 AM
ok, the wireless not recieving an IP address has nothing to do with the dsl, as anything inside of the router is running NAT(network address translation) The only thing that could cause the wireless to not recieve an address is a misconfiguration, signal interference, or hardware conflict on the specific computer. Honestly, earthlink is pulling your chain on the shit, they want more money from you, thats why they say it wont work without the 'home networking package' which is just them putting a watch on your account so they can monitor your bandwith.... I work for an ISP here in texas, configure wireless equiptment 8 hours a day....and i can tell you for sure that dell is bullshitting you. If you do in fact get a Linksys or need any help configuring any of the routers....PM me and i will give you my #, you can call and ill walk you through setting it up, because yeah, the internal network IP addresses are completely idependant of earthlinks crap... im tired and not making much sense im sure, but im going to go now, lol

beanfield
01-23-2004, 12:43 PM
Regarding the Linksys router...Earthlink may have configured your dsl modem to only communicate with the ethernet adapter that the dsl service was originally installed on. Check to see if your router supports mac address cloning. If it does, set it to the same mac address of the original network card. You might also have something funky going on with authentication if Earthlink is forcing you to use PPPOE. It might be worthwhile to try and upgrade your firmware, but don't hold your breath. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Configuring wep and mac address filtering are definately good suggestions. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif When I setup a wireless ap I usually also disable ssid broadcasts. It will keep most casual users/nosey neighbors from seeing that you have a wireless network at all. If you get real froggy about security, I'd suggest using wpa instead of wep. It's probably not neccessary in your case. If you want to use wpa you'll need to make sure you have a new enough firmware revision on your router to support. You'll also need some updates from microsoft on the wireless client pc's.

Bostitch
01-24-2004, 06:34 AM
beanfield said:
Regarding the Linksys router...Earthlink may have configured your dsl modem to only communicate with the ethernet adapter that the dsl service was originally installed on. Check to see if your router supports mac address cloning. If it does, set it to the same mac address of the original network card. You might also have something funky going on with authentication if Earthlink is forcing you to use PPPOE. It might be worthwhile to try and upgrade your firmware, but don't hold your breath. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif





I thought about that to but I don't think that would be the case. Usually those services are able to log on with different computers and only the modem has it's own ID. I know that earthlink probably uses PPPOe, but if he configured it with the Dlink router than I would think that would not be the problem. The thing I am thinking is that with linksys routers you have the option to set the port to 10, 10/100, or 100. Now the modem has only the capabilty of 10. Sometimes the router won't see the modem due to this, Of all the friends I help out this seems to be the biggest cause of the problems. The Dlink routers from what i have seen always seem to have that port at 10, can't config them otherwise. Like i said before if he could post up a screen shot of the config screen then maybe we could help him out a little http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

beanfield
01-25-2004, 05:05 AM
Bostitch said:

beanfield said:
Regarding the Linksys router...Earthlink may have configured your dsl modem to only communicate with the ethernet adapter that the dsl service was originally installed on. Check to see if your router supports mac address cloning. If it does, set it to the same mac address of the original network card. You might also have something funky going on with authentication if Earthlink is forcing you to use PPPOE. It might be worthwhile to try and upgrade your firmware, but don't hold your breath. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif





I thought about that to but I don't think that would be the case. Usually those services are able to log on with different computers and only the modem has it's own ID. I know that earthlink probably uses PPPOe, but if he configured it with the Dlink router than I would think that would not be the problem. The thing I am thinking is that with linksys routers you have the option to set the port to 10, 10/100, or 100. Now the modem has only the capabilty of 10. Sometimes the router won't see the modem due to this, Of all the friends I help out this seems to be the biggest cause of the problems. The Dlink routers from what i have seen always seem to have that port at 10, can't config them otherwise. Like i said before if he could post up a screen shot of the config screen then maybe we could help him out a little http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif



You're probably right about the mac address solutions...I forgot he had gotten the dlink to work correctly. Regarding the ports... I have put in a number of linksys routers and I have never seen an option to manually select speed. Actually, I just logged in a client's router and checked it out. There's no option to manually set the speed (that I could find). It either auto-negotiates or is permenantly fixed at 10MB. I'm leaning towards user error as the main reason it won't connect. I find it hard to believe that dsl service from an ISP as large as Earthlink wouldn't work with linksys routers. I'd just get the newest firmware from Linksys and flash it. Then start from scratch. The router and/or network cable could also have been bad (unless he's using the same cables with the Dlink).

pushindalimit
01-26-2004, 05:51 AM
WOW!!! you guys know your shit!!!!

Thanks for all of your input. I still have to set the security up though http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

I will figure it out!!!!!

Thanks guys