http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Is-Brock-beatable-Four-who-have-a-shot?urn=mma,176151
After Saturday's dismantling of Frank Mir at UFC 100, Brock Lesnar seems pretty comfortable at the top of the UFC heavyweight division. Though his career in the UFC has been short, he has beaten two champions, Randy Couture and Mir, in a convincing manner. His size and strength will be a tough obstacle to overcome, but not impossible. Who can do it?
Fedor Emelianenko: If there is anyone who can take out Lesnar, it's the Russian fighter Emelianenko (pictured). He is at the top of the Yahoo! Sports pound-for-pound rankings (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dd-mmarankings061109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns) for good reason. With a 30-1 record, he has beaten fighters of every size, including the 7'2" Hong Man Choi and 6'8" former UFC champion Tim Sylvia. In January, he knocked out another former UFC champion, Andrei Arlovski, in the first round. In fact, he hasn't had a fight get past the first round since a win over Mark Coleman in 2006, which lasted until the second round.
Emelianenko's biggest obstacle in beating Lesnar isn't in the cage, it's actually getting him in the cage. He is signed with rival promotion Affliction for a fight with Josh Barnett in August. Fans have wanted Fedor in the UFC for years, but contract negotiations have gone nowhere between the groups. After the fights on Saturday, Dana White said that Emelianenko will be in the UFC (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15488/dana-white-says-fedor-emelianenko-will-fight-in-the-ufc-brock-lesnar-fight-imminent.mma).
"This Fedor thing has gone on and on and on," White said in the post-UFC 100 press conference. "Eventually, Fedor's going to be here. I want Fedor. I want him to come to the UFC and everything else.

"This guy (Brock Lesnar) just won the heavyweight title, and we'll end up getting that deal done. And then we'll do Brock vs. Fedor, and it'll be a huge fight."
Assuming that the deal gets made, Emelianenko has the best shot of beating Brock Lesnar.
Shane Carwin: How can you mitigate Lesnar's size advantage? By putting him up against someone that's equally as large. That's Carwin -- all 6'3", 262 lbs. of him. His hands are so big that the 4X gloves he wears to fight need to be cut and taped to fit his hands. He can take punishment and still win, as he had a broken nose when he knocked out Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 96. Carwin is also motivated to beat Lesnar, who Carwin thought was incredibly disrespectful after his win on Saturday (http://www.shane-carwin.com/profiles/blogs/ufc-100-thoughts).
The fans are why we do this, Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama. It is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers' respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport int he world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just dont get it. From leaving the venue all the way to the Airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them.
The biggest knock against Carwin is that he is untested, but he is 11-0. He has much more experience than Lesnar. Carwin is slated to face Cain Velasquez, another exciting up-and-coming heavyweight, at UFC 104 in October. If he makes it through that fight, it wouldn't be surprising to see a matchup between Lesnar and Carwin.
Alistair Overeem: If someone of a similar size won't vex Brock, speed will. A fighter who is a champion kickboxer, can cut angles and move quickly? That might the perfect foil to Brock's wrestling and power. That fighter exists in Dutch kickboxer Alistair Overeem.
Overeem faces two problems in overcoming Lesnar. One, he is the Strikeforce heavyweight champion, is fighting for them on August 15, and contractually obligated to Strikeforce. Two, he needs to stay on his feet to be able to use high kicks, but as Lesnar showed on Saturday, his takedown is quite effective.
Bobby Lashley: Like Lesnar, Lashley is a fellow WWE veteran and collegiate wrestler. Unlike Lesnar, Lashley is taking the long and winding road to the UFC. He also has four wins, but his competition hasn't been nearly as difficult as Lesnar's. Lashley's biggest advantage is that he and Lesnar are the same size, and both have a strong wrestling background. With those two factors equal, the fight has the potential of being an all-out slugfest.
The problem with this fight is that Lashley doesn't want to fight in the UFC until he is ready to be a champion.
"When I go over there I want to be a top, top level guy," Lashley said. "I want talks of me fighting the champ when I get over there. I want them to say this guy's really good."
Lashley still has a while to go and much to learn before he can walk in and get a title shot. He will need to get a few more fights under his belt before we can see if he is truly ready for the champ

Fedor yes, Carwin, if he trained full time possibly, Lashley needs to fight reputable fighters, Overeem could but Lesnars take downs are quick and effective... and i would possible add barnett to the list.

Lashely cannot beat Brock. Carwin, Fedor and Josh Barnett are the only ones that I think are capable of it right now.

Lashely cannot beat Brock. Carwin, Fedor and Josh Barnett are the only ones that I think are capable of it right now.

+1.

Lesnar would run right through Lashley. Fedor has the best chance & Shane Carwin is up there as well. We'll see.....:wait

I just realized, what about Brett Rogers? obviously right now he isn't ready because he has never fought in the UFC but he is a fucking beast and I think he could give Brock a run for his money. EliteXC sucks, I think if he came over to the UFC it would be interesting

i think bud light should offer 5 mil to the person who pounds him down with style. just for his comments :) put a bounty on his head for the comments :)

i think bud light should offer 5 mil to the person who pounds him down with style. just for his comments :) put a bounty on his head for the comments :)


Agreed!

I just realized, what about Brett Rogers? obviously right now he isn't ready because he has never fought in the UFC but he is a fucking beast and I think he could give Brock a run for his money. EliteXC sucks, I think if he came over to the UFC it would be interesting

And agreed!

Budlight and coors light are both piss water anyway..... who cares :p

Heres a couple of names that everyone is scared to throw out there.

Chuck Liddell - I still think he has skill no matter what someone says. Let him put 15 pounds on and move up a weight class (alot of folks think he should fight hw anyways). The guy has one of the most destructive punches in the game and we all know that he is one of the best when it comes to take down defense. Now hes no where NEAR as strong as Lesnar, but lesnar has no skill if he cant take you down (for now; He's training big time MT right now, and you hava already seen how he likes those knees)

Disclaimer: Understand that the above is probably more imagination than anything else. Im a die hard Liddell Fan and I think he can beat anyone up...lol. There are only 3 kinds of fighters that are going to beat Lesnar.

1. More Powerful - Mark Coleman, bob sapp maybe??
2. Great standup and takedown defense - Liddell, Brett Rodgers, Tim Sylvia
3. Great fighting from the back - Now that mir is out of the picture, Fedor, Minotauro, Barnett.

Antonio Rodrigo Noguera - ARN will beg lesnar to take him to the ground. If Lesnar can beat ARN on the ground, then no one can beat lesnar on the ground. Please dont bring up the ARN and Mir fight...Mir was obviously the better boxer there, and DID NOT want to be on the ground with Minotauro. ARN would win in the standup battle with Lesnar, and I'm pretty sure he is ALMOST as dangerous on the ground with the BJJ as Fedor is.

and I bet Brock DID get on top of his wife after the fight, and she liked it.

I think it is funny as fuck that the media is saying he disrespected her. She laughed about it....... I might would say the same thing about Dilly if I had just won :spit

you damn sure better, cause it ain't going to be some little skank :nono

and I bet Brock DID get on top of his wife after the fight, and she liked it.

I think it is funny as fuck that the media is saying he disrespected her. She laughed about it....... I might would say the same thing about Dilly if I had just won :spit

:lmao I thought that was funnier than the bud light thing myself...lol

He's a douchebag, no doubt about it. But he didnt act any different than any of us would have if we had just beat up someone in a bar that had been talking shit for 2 years.

These fighters want to talk shit about lesnars mouth, someone put a 4oz glove in it and shut him up.

To be honest ANY of the guys named could beat lesnar. Including Mir and Couture..... they just didnt. It is not a matter of who can, it is a matter of who will. He will lose eventually. Everyone does.

Heres a couple of names that everyone is scared to throw out there.

Chuck Liddell - I still think he has skill no matter what someone says. Let him put 15 pounds on and move up a weight class (alot of folks think he should fight hw anyways). The guy has one of the most destructive punches in the game and we all know that he is one of the best when it comes to take down defense. Now hes no where NEAR as strong as Lesnar, but lesnar has no skill if he cant take you down (for now; He's training big time MT right now, and you hava already seen how he likes those knees)

Disclaimer: Understand that the above is probably more imagination than anything else. Im a die hard Liddell Fan and I think he can beat anyone up...lol. There are only 3 kinds of fighters that are going to beat Lesnar.

1. More Powerful - Mark Coleman, bob sapp maybe??
2. Great standup and takedown defense - Liddell, Brett Rodgers, Tim Sylvia
3. Great fighting from the back - Now that mir is out of the picture, Fedor, Minotauro, Barnett.

Antonio Rodrigo Noguera - ARN will beg lesnar to take him to the ground. If Lesnar can beat ARN on the ground, then no one can beat lesnar on the ground. Please dont bring up the ARN and Mir fight...Mir was obviously the better boxer there, and DID NOT want to be on the ground with Minotauro. ARN would win in the standup battle with Lesnar, and I'm pretty sure he is ALMOST as dangerous on the ground with the BJJ as Fedor is.

Your a dreamer Sapp is way overrated...terrible fighter, Coleman is way passed his prime, along with Liddel. Unfortunatly the sport of MMA has long evolved since Chucks reign of LHW title. Tim sylvia just lost in 9 seconds to a washed up boxer. He was never good and Tims also very one dimensional.


Carwin recently called out Lesnar but must go through Vasquez first. I'd like to see them to throw down

Your a dreamer Sapp is way overrated...terrible fighter, Coleman is way passed his prime, along with Liddel. Unfortunatly the sport of MMA has long evolved since Chucks reign of LHW title. Tim sylvia just lost in 9 seconds to a washed up boxer. He was never good and Tims also very one dimensional.


Carwin recently called out Lesnar but must go through Vasquez first. I'd like to see them to throw down


I agree with everything you said. But...Sapp if VERY strong. He is a horrible fighter but hes another one that can just barely touch someone and knock them unconcious..lol

Coleman just dissassembled Bonnar if you didnt already know that and he benches over 600 pounds....still.

I am by no means a tim sylvia fan, but you know just as well as I do that he has fantastic take down defense. Just saying I would like to see that fight. I know he just got ko'd by mercer, but a lucky punch is a lucky punch.

Thing about syvia is I just dont think his sprawl is fast enough to elude Lesnar and if Brock was to get him down it would be pretty boring.

Me and this guy at work were just talking. Dana white isnt going to put him against someone that is going to submit him. Dana white is going to try and put him in a fight where he gets KO'd. Dana is going to give the fans what they want, and no one wants to see brock get subbed.

Oh yeah, and there was this one guy that was supposedly past his prime that just put a pretty good fight up against lesnar...Think his name was Randy Couture or something like that. Liddell is far from over, you'll see.

Didn't Lashley just give Sapp the beat down of his life? There is no way Sapp could touch him if Bobby isn't ready yet.

Bob sapp fights like a girl but knocks huge people out. I'm not sure who it was, but I think Ming soo kim or something was laying on top of him one time and Bob Sapp finally got tired of gettin beat up and just bench pressed him up in the air and threw him off of him. Just saying that he may bring something to the ring that brock hasnt seen. Do I think he WOULD win...no, do i think he COULD win...yes.

Lashley vs. Lesnar I think would actually be a good fight. Better than most people are thinking.

Lashley vs. Lesnar I think would actually be a good fight. Better than most people are thinking.

100% in agreement.

Heres another hw hoping to come to the UFC soon.

Gilbert Yvel - just recently ko'd Pedro Rizzo.

:lmao

http://www.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop.php?image=http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20090218031117_7DEG6130.JPG&width_size=600

:dunno

Lesnar vs Lashley in a real Tables & Chairs match? Ladder? :spit

Hell yeah! :lmao

Liddell ............. :spit:lmao.... I hope you're joking. Stick a fork in that man, he's done!

I think we'll have to wait for Carwin to get his shot. He's the only man I see taking Lesnar out. I hope after Carwin's next fight that they finally give him a paycheque so that he can train full time. He has amazing size and power, 11-0 and we've never even seen him make it to the 2nd round. There's something to be said about that!

After Sat comments I have a feeling the UFC sponsers might step in and say put someone in the ring that can take this turkey out!

Bowersk you are one clueless fuck. In one thread you claim that Lesnar is one of the most powerful human beings ever(fucking lol) then you suggest putting him up against a 40 yr old Chuck Liddel. THEN you bring up Bob fucking Sapp and Tim Sylvia, who both are garbage fighters. Get a fucking clue dude

Bowersk you are one clueless fuck. In one thread you claim that Lesnar is one of the most powerful human beings ever(fucking lol) then you suggest putting him up against a 40 yr old Chuck Liddel. THEN you bring up Bob fucking Sapp and Tim Sylvia, who both are garbage fighters. Get a fucking clue dude

:lmao

For some reason thats not the first time ive ever heard that...

So Randy couture sucks too because hes old right? I still have faith in Chuck Liddell, even if some of you Saturday night MMA fans dont.

O yeah, about Tim Sylvia...you may want to go here, do some research and then come back and tell me hes a garbage fighter. I dont like him any more than the next guy, but you can't call him garbage.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Sylvia-1061

Ok the Bob Sapp thing was WAY off, just trying to put someone out there that can maybe match the power (not the ferrociousness) of Lesnar.

Bowersk you are one clueless fuck. In one thread you claim that Lesnar is one of the most powerful human beings ever(fucking lol) then you suggest putting him up against a 40 yr old Chuck Liddel. THEN you bring up Bob fucking Sapp and Tim Sylvia, who both are garbage fighters. Get a fucking clue dude

+1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 + 7 + 8 + 9 AHAHAH.

Bob Sapp is garbage. He is a huge beast of a man. He probably beat kids up in high school. But not every person that is 7' tall is ready for the NBA. Not every 500lb man should be a sumo wrestler. Liddell was great, fun to watch etc. Hes old and should retire for good. Its the same thing that happened in the Gracie / Hughes fight. Different eras, and more intense athletes now.
Did you see the difference between the two Mir / Lesnar fights. Lesnar realized that he has an advantage in every aspect besides submissions. Stronger, hits harder, reach, wrestling. He was a fricken 2 time all american. So use your strength and superiour skill and wrestle him down.

Anywho I havent been into UFC as of late as I graduated and havent been able to see many pay per views. Most of the fighters I used to watch have all but been supplanted ( Couture, Liddell, Wanderli Silva )

Bottom line, Brock isnt that great. Is he a speciman? Sure. We he get beaten soon. Definetly!

of course he's beatable...no one is unbeatable...

Liddell will NEVER beat lesnar, period. I'm still not confident that fedor would. I still think Lesnar is to fast and to powerful for Fedor to contain. He likes arm bars, but lesnar, if you notice, uses brute force and can rip his arm away from about anyone. I'm just not seeing fedor winning that one:dunno

Now, I get to go to training tonight and grapple with Sam, a 260lb guy who squeezes the liver from my ear:crying :lol

My coach likes me training with him, and it helps. He has the perspective of me getting used to the larger mans brute strength and then I fight in my weight class (middle weight) and the apponent feels 1/2 as strong as Sam. As much as it hurts all week, it works:cheers

Its a dream to make the money these people get. No matter how many fights I, or any other MMA fighter gets, its like getting into the NFL. Your chances of getting struck by lightning are better. But, its all OK still. You make SOME money, but nothing to live off of.

I'd like to see carwin vs lesnar; carwin's the only person in the ufc that I can see having the game to beat him.

in my opinion, fedor would take him apart; and I think he'd get to choose how he did it. unfortunately, (also in my opinion), it will remain forever only my opinion, as I don't believe, despite dana's statements to the contrary, that we'll ever see fedor in the ufc.