Fight Card: http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.FightCard&eid=2016

Frank Mir over Brock Lesnar
Georges St-Pierre over Thiago Alves
Paulo Thiago over Jon Fitch
Michael Bisping over Dan Henderson

thanks for making this thread.

Mir over Lesnar by a rear naked choke
GSP over Alves by TKO
Hendo over Bisping by 1st rd stunning KO
Thiago over Fitch by decision
Bonnar over Coleman by guillotine choke


I have HIGH expectations for this card, 99 was underwhelming. 98 was pretty damn good but 100 should blow it out of the water.

Lesnar by TKO
GSP by Decesion
Hendo by TKO
Thiago by Decesion

I would love to see Frank Mir knock Brock Lesnar out cold.
GSP 2nd round rear naked choke. (going to be a great fight!)
Henderson beats Bisping via ground & pound round 3.


:chucks

lesnar
gsp
fitch
hendo

who i think will win
Lesnar
GSP
Henderson (by long drawn out decision)
Thiago
Bonnar

Who i want to win
Mir
Alves
Hendo vs Bisbing (dont really care)
Thiago
Bonnar

Lesnar is too powerful for Mir. Plus he eats, sleeps, breaths and shits training. Mir wont be able to count on a sub this time. He will have to use some of that punching power that he has and actually knock lesnar out if he wants to win....which he CAN do.

I'm HOPING that Hendo doesn't end Bisbing very quick, but instead drags his butt back and forth across the canvas the whole fight. I want Bisbing to look like Ken Shamrock the last time that Tito got a hold of him.

I like both GSP and Alves...and have NO idea how this one is going to go.

Excited to see the American Psycho again!

Lesnar is too powerful for Mir. Plus he eats, sleeps, breaths and shits training. Mir wont be able to count on a sub this time. He will have to use some of that punching power that he has and actually knock lesnar out if he wants to win....which he CAN do.

I'm HOPING that Hendo doesn't end Bisbing very quick, but instead drags his butt back and forth across the canvas the whole fight. I want Bisbing to look like Ken Shamrock the last time that Tito got a hold of him.

I like both GSP and Alves...and have NO idea how this one is going to go.

Excited to see the American Psycho again!

dont worry Dan Henderson has dragged out his last few (yawn) fights. I also completly agree with you about Lesnars size and strength. Brock will be smarter this time when it comes to Mirs subs.

Lesnar is too powerful for Mir.

It's a mistake to underestimate Mir's strength. UFC posted a video of him training a week or so ago and he looks fucking amazing. Brock is stronger but not by much. Mir has more experience, a higher fight IQ and is on par in terms of brute strength.

lol, Mir's "on par" in terms of brute strength? :lmao

Lesnar is Optimus Prime with skin. Mir is a MUCH better fighter IMO, but Lesnar is seriously one of the most powerful human beings ever built.

I saw the weigh in pictures and its obvious that Mir hasn't taken this fight lightly. And anyone who has been around MMA long enough to know mir, knows that hes not scared of ANYONE.

Problem i see here is that along with Franks heavy hands, he also has a suspect jaw. He cant even begin to compete with Lesnar on the ground, so to win he is going to have to out box Lesnar which I feel he can do. Problem is, all lesnar has to land on frank is an index finger and franks gonna be sleepin.

I just noticed something. Mir fought the former most powerful man in the world one time before and submitted him by grabbing his foot...lol (Tank Abbot).

Either way, I'm excited as hell about this one. Matter of fact the ole 46" plasma of mine isnt going to be big enough to watch it on. I'm going to my buddies to watch it on his 100" HD projector!! I want to be IN the ocatagon this time.

He cant even begin to compete with Mir on the ground, so to win he is going to have to out box Mir


fixD

Lesnar is seriously one of the most powerful human beings ever built.




not really

lol, bet. The ankle is the smallest joint on the body that can be manipulated in the ufc so he HAS to count on that to sub lesnar. If ANYTHING on mir matches the strength of Lesnar, its his lower body. If he can get Lesnar in an armbar, then he may have a chance. Then again, its a possibility that Lesnar just picks him up and splatters him all over the matt. I know I'm underestimating mir, but for some reason this fight reminds me of battle between a BullDozer vs. Bobcat.

not really

Now now, lets not go off thinking that a 450pd bench press is weak. Yeah he doesn't bench press as much as say marc coleman, but his explosiveness/quickness makes him more powerful in my book.

Hey Is Anyone Getting Together To See This Or Does Anyone Know Of A Good Location Where I Could Go Watch It At? Im In Norwalk Ca. (so-cal, 562 Area, Orange County, La Area, Inland Empire Area)

You have a buffalo wild wings close by?

scratch that, Im pretty sure all the sports bars are going to have this one. Their stupid if they dont.

holy shit I am so excited! BWW and UFC FUCKING 100!!!!! OMFG!!!!!! FUCK YES!!!!

holy shit I am so excited! BWW and UFC FUCKING 100!!!!! OMFG!!!!!! FUCK YES!!!!

In Ohio it's know as BW3s.

If I go there, I got to get there 2 hours before the shit starts.

^^There's a locally owned sports bar in town thats the same way. If you want a seat, get there at least an hour and a half early. That way, you should have a table in time for the fights. And your usually pretty buzzed!

i hope mir wins and dominates. l think lesnar will have to get a lucky hit or something to beat mir i think.

lesnar is far from optimus prime with skin. This man is that...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7355044160060806672

this guy would floss with lesnar when it comes to strength.

he could be a bodybuilder as well. guy is insane. he's one of the few world strongest men that look it as well. lesnar has so much spam on his mid section compared to this guy and probably can't lift half as much as this guy in terms of brute strength.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7esnsTNNI

^^ that dude is a BEAST!

:chucks

first fight out of the way!
and it WASNT controversial.

Dan Fucking Henderson!!! Motherfucking Knocks Him Out!!!!!!! Holy Shit Balls!s


most vicious KO ever

fuck, im still shaking. That was fucking legendary. OH MY FUCKING GOD

HAHAHAHAHA! dan rocked his shit!
just made my 45 bucks worth it! :D

man, alves is having a hard time...
DEFINITELY not the fight he thought it was going to be.

GSP is the fucking man

GSP is the fucking man
QFTMFT!

It will be a while before someone comes along in the Welterweight class to challenge GSP. There's NOONE in UFC now to do it.

I'am watching it live :D.

rd 1 to Brock

no matter what the result was - brock is still a piece of shit and a joke.

Brock is an asshole for sure, he is fucking scary though. GODDAMN!

Lesnar is a big dumb ox. He has no technique, has poor sportsmanship and and doesn't know how to fight. Go back to WWE!

Brock is an asshole for sure, he is fucking scary though. GODDAMN!he totally no skilled it tonight.
it was all size and weight.
against someone with skill and strength - like fedor - hed lose terribly.

"I might even get on top of my wife" lol funny shit.

brock will destroy this sport. he just used his weight to win the match and left no room for submission since he wouldn't give mir an inch, he didn't lean back to strike, or anything. look at GSP vs lesnar and you can see the difference. total douschebag also and ufc won't get another dime from me for anything he's in. the white trash needs to go back to wwe

Lesnar is a big dumb ox. He has no technique, has poor sportsmanship and and doesn't know how to fight. Go back to WWE!

You cannot beat someone like Mir with no technique, Lesnar dominated on the ground, not letting Mir get anything. He won with brute strength but he did show some skill. Also I think Fedor, Carwin and possibly Cain Valsquez would be great matchups. If Carwin beats Cain put him up against Brock. I would pay a shitload to see Brock vs Fedor

no you can't beat them w/o any technique but

take him down, lay on him, stay close, and punch is technique for the best fighters in ufc? it takes technique to walk and use two feet as well, but you won't get respect from anyone for walking.

brock will destroy this sport. he just used his weight to win the match and left no room for submission since he wouldn't give mir an inch, he didn't lean back to strike, or anything. look at GSP vs lesnar and you can see the difference. total douschebag also and ufc won't get another dime from me for anything he's in. the white trash needs to go back to wwe

I was pulling for Mir and this fight sealed in my mind that Brock is a douche but cmon man, He used his weight to win the match? he left no room for submission? your saying that like its a bad thing. Alves was at near 200 and fighting in the 170lb division yet he lost because GSP had superior skill. If Mir was the better fighter weight would NOT be an issue

it's not a bad thing, but it doesn't deserve any props at all. weight is always an issue and if it wasn't they wouldn't weigh in. they need to make them weigh in the DAY of the fight or right before they fight.

I'm working so I can't watch the fight. I'll have to download it in the AM or something :hammer

i agree completely. it was a total douchebag way to win. yes i know, a win is a win, but there was no class or style in this particular win. it was ugly and it was very bad of lesnar to be the way he was afterwards. matter of fact, lesnar may have won in the ring, but mir stayed the gentleman and the bigger sport by conceding the loss while brock was being his typical jackass self.

Honestly the Mir/Lesnar fight sucked. Hendo owning "out for The Count" Bisping was the highlight of the night.

oh yeah - BIG BOO to the ufc for putting fitch in as the last fight.
poor guys were fighting in front of a fraction of the audience that was there earlier.

Honestly the Mir/Lesnar fight sucked. Hendo owning "out for The Count" Bisping was the highlight of the night.

made my fucking night - thats for sure. :D

damn.. I missed it.. I'll have to watch it tomorrow.. where do u guys usually watch it the next day? :dunno

oh yeah - BIG BOO to the ufc for putting fitch in as the last fight.
poor guys were fighting in front of a fraction of the audience that was there earlier.

There is still an hour left, I want to see the Coleman/Bonnar fight :punk any undercard fight could be better then this boring shit(Paulo/Fitch) :sleep

just google it. mmatko or something like that normally has them. it's waste though and lesnar is horrible for the sport. needs to go back to wwe or dana white and fedor need to have a make out session and get over their issues and let fedor wreck lesnar.

damn.. I missed it.. I'll have to watch it tomorrow.. where do u guys usually watch it the next day? :dunnoif i need to find it, i usually just check out the mma forums. no particular one, most of them will have the fight hosted somewhere.

There is still an hour left, I want to see the Coleman/Bonnar fight :punk any undercard fight could be better then this boring shit(Paulo/Fitch) :sleep
damn, youre right! i totally forgot, lol.

are you fucking kidding me? why can't they show a fucking undercard fight? what the fuck?

are you fucking kidding me? why can't they show a fucking undercard fight? what the fuck?ok, now im kind of disappointed... what happened???

I'm at work as well, but reading that Hendo KO'd Bisping was highlight of my night. I hate Lesnar, too bad he won.

ok, now im kind of disappointed... what happened???

it says the PPV goes until 12 but for some reason they don't want to show any undercard fights even though the maincard ended at 10:50 :cursing


Zuffa needs to tweak their setup a bit I think. I don't like missing good fights just because they are on the undercard while having to watch shitty maincard fights

and now they just said that bonnar lost to coleman. great. so now i know who won, but i didnt get to see it. ::cursing

...I think some of you are showing your bias against Lesnar throwing out weight, and strength....while saying he has no skill? Try and be a little realistic (Brock's attitude aside). Mir's got a blackbelt in jujitsu, and is no joke.......

I realized things are totally diff. now, but anyone remember Gracie vs. Severn?? 100# diff. The more defense Lesnar learns the harder it's gonna be for someone to beat the guy.

and now they just said that bonnar lost to coleman. great. so now i know who won, but i didnt get to see it. ::cursing

yep. fucking morons.

...I think some of you are showing your bias against Lesnar throwing out weight, and strength....while saying he has no skill? Try and be a little realistic (Brock's attitude aside). Mir's got a blackbelt in jujitsu, and is no joke.......

I realized things are totally diff. now, but anyone remember Gracie vs. Severn?? 100# diff. The more defense Lesnar learns the harder it's gonna be for someone to beat the guy.

the only real positive thing i can say about the fight is that brock showed a lot of restraint and caution this time. he didnt just bulldoze into the other guy like he normally does.
im still not convinced he deserved that belt though after only 3 fights though.

I didn't hate Brock before, but hearing about the shitty attitude and lack of sportsmanship has me hating him now.

I hear GSP had a great night, so I really want to see that. I haven't been into fighting for long, but watching him, he's earned my respect.

Brock is a douche. I've watched all his fights, and none of them have impressed me in the least.

The thing I find most impressive is his speed. Other than that, I don't think he deserved a shot at the title after a few lackluster fights. I think it was a marketing move, that probably worked. Lesnar is gonna ruin the reputation of the heavy weight division if he keeps up fights like this.

The GSP fight was good, if a little boring at times. I was hoping that he would finish Alves...

LOVED the Henderson/Bisping fight. Awesome KO.

Let's see what the pirate bay has :shifty

Let's see what the pirate bay has :shifty


Go to mmalinker.com. You can watch the fights there.

Go to mmalinker.com. You can watch the fights there.


FTW, they have most of what I want to see right there :punk

Thanks for the link. I loved watching this KO...

http://mmalinker.com/viewer/17893/i/HENDERSON_VS_BISBING.html

Protip: hit the icon in the corner of the video and view it directly in youtube so you can go fullscreen :punk

Damn, Mir did get his ass kicked. He was doing good standing up. Should of kept his distance a little better to avoid going to the ground.

The youtube vids are getting pulled quick. The external links are good so far.

yeah the I figured the you tube vids wouldn't last too long but as you said, the external links work good too.

Wow, great sportsmanship from Alves. Now that's how it's done. :thumbup

Lesnar is an animal. Bisping FINALLY got knocked the fuck out. Great fights to watch. I recorded it on DVR.:punk

Hendo's KO was BADASS! I knew it was coming he kept that right locked and loaded...:punk

I DVR'd it also :biggrin

Very happy Henderson KO'd Bisping! :cheers

& Brock Lesnar was definitely a douche before this fight. He just got thrust into even a bigger douche league after this one. What piss poor sportmanship he showed after his win. Talking shit right way, & giving the crowd the finger....fuckin' A1 asshole!

I wonder how much shit/money lost Lesnar is in for his coors light comment??

i agree completely. it was a total douchebag way to win. yes i know, a win is a win, but there was no class or style in this particular win. it was ugly and it was very bad of lesnar to be the way he was afterwards. matter of fact, lesnar may have won in the ring, but mir stayed the gentleman and the bigger sport by conceding the loss while brock was being his typical jackass self.

Mir was rushing to get off the ground, still knocked the fuck out, to talk shit.... did ALL of you fail to see that? Mir talked mad shit before the fight, Lesnar did not.... did you all miss that too? Lesnar was being booed before he did anything to mir after the fight....... and always has been booed.

The crowd booes lesnar and he responds. I dont blame him. He won the fight. He did not cheat. He won.

The fans think he got a title shot too early. Couture had a title shot with the same number of fights under his belt..... but nobody complains about that.

Mir was rushing to get off the ground, still knocked the fuck out, to talk shit.... did ALL of you fail to see that? Mir talked mad shit before the fight, Lesnar did not.... did you all miss that too? Lesnar was being booed before he did anything to mir after the fight....... and always has been booed.

The crowd booes lesnar and he responds. I dont blame him. He won the fight. He did not cheat. He won.

The fans think he got a title shot too early. Couture had a title shot with the same number of fights under his belt..... but nobody complains about that.

i dont think brock cheated, he just didnt win using skills that an mma guy should use. did it achieve what he wanted? it sure did. doesnt take away his doucheness though.
mir did talk shit, but they BOTH did. after a fight though, its all over. i saw mir get up, but i didnt hear what he said. he probably didnt want it to get stopped like it did. look at the alves/pierre fight. alves was a total class act. he stated pre-fight that he wanted to kill pierre in the worst way. but when the fight was over - it was done.
brock should take a page from alves's book and stfu.

i dont think brock cheated, he just didnt win using skills that an mma guy should use. did it achieve what he wanted? it sure did. doesnt take away his doucheness though.
mir did talk shit, but they BOTH did. after a fight though, its all over. i saw mir get up, but i didnt hear what he said. he probably didnt want it to get stopped like it did. look at the alves/pierre fight. alves was a total class act. he stated pre-fight that he wanted to kill pierre in the worst way. but when the fight was over - it was done.
brock should take a page from alves's book and stfu.

Come on Asleep, I agree with alot of what you're saying, but to say he's not using skills of an MMA guy....You're be-littling the skills of Mir by doing so. He's taking a superior jujitsu guy to the ground with so little ease...

...he's showing great wrestling skill. His striking's sloppy, but he's just a freak. A guy that big has no business moving that fast. Until now I've thought he's had no business being in the same ring as these guy's, but it time to give credit where it's due...Who's gonna beat him?? Fedor?? I can only hope they put it together, but I'm starting to have my doubts.

mir got up and pretty much ran to lesnar like he still wanted to fight him and talking shit.

I dont "like" lesnar, I am not a fan of his. But I dont blame him either. He has a hard row to hoe in the UFC. No matter WHAT he does, he will always be "that wrestler guy" basically.

You mentioned his weight....... what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? There is no "super duper heavy weight" He has to cut weight to make the max weight limit. Whos fault is that? Not his.

Id say this. He fights with more skill and agility than Tim Silvia ever did. And Tim has been doing it a LOT longer. Lesnar is still up and coming, and will only get better....... as we have already seen.

He is still making due with what he has in his limited experience. He will only get better, and the UFC fans are going to have to learn to accept the fact that he USED to be a wrestler, he is an MMA fighter now, and shut the fuck up about his past. He has the title........ he beat the guys he had to beat to get it.

Everyone says he got the title fight too early.......... but think about it. Who would have stopped him? It was inevitable. Could the UFC have thrown 3-4 other fighters at him for him to maul first? Sure. Would the result have been the same? Almost deffinitely. Couture won his first title in his 4th fight I think, why is it such a big deal for Lesnar to have, but nothing that Couture did?

all good points. as for his weight - its like your dad holding you down when youre ten. not a whole lot you can do there. BUT, thats what you have to deal with in heavyweight and mir knew that going in. is it safe to say that brock was in a sort of survival mode from the get-go by not fighting his typical style and being scared of being caught in a simple hold again? im trying real hard not to take too much from lesnar, but i cant get away from him being the douche that he is... mir beating him the first time was proof that lesnar doesnt belong in there in the capacity that he is though. ok, yes, he beat couture, but couture is nowhere near his prime. as for everyone else - they should have had the chance to fight him. he should have had to go thru every available previous champ before he got handed the title.
now fedor and lesnar... fedor will do the same thing to lesnar as he did to another low experience big guy - break him down and take him out. hong man choi towered over fedor and it meant nothing. he hits hard and it meant nothing. all i see lesnar having over choi is speed. no matter - fedor has dealt with guys like that too.
lesnar is just too reminiscent of kimbo. everyone thought he was going to be so badass, but he ended up being a joke. the difference here is that brock has a belt. until he changes his act, im still not impressed.

I wouldnt say survival mode is fair at all. He is a smarter fighter now than he was. EVERY fighter does what he did. You watch video, exploit weakness, and avoid strengths that can exploit your weakness.

Couture Vs Silvia...... couture is a wrestler. But he avoided the ground for a long time, against a bigger heavier guy. He used his speed to bob and weave and counter. He systematically picked apart the oafs game, and beat his ass. The same can be done for Lesnar. Mir didnt get it done though. Plain and simple. Couture (who got it done with Silvia) did not either.

Lesnar without a doubt has huge holes in his game. He is quickly closing those though. Someone will have to exploit those holes, and still be smart enough to avoid his strengths to beat him. Will that be Fedor? maybe. Maybe not.


I personally think Lesnar has done a pretty good job taking all the negativity in stride. But we all have to remember, he IS a top level athlete. As with most all top level athletes there is a level of pride there. Taking what the fans are giving him is not easy, and the worse the fans are to him, the harder it is...... and he will pop off. ANY top level athlete being recieved the way he is would. And I dont blame him. He has done a pretty good job leaving the WWE crap behind him. HE wants to let that part go. The fans wont let him though.

I personally think he is taking this pretty damn serious.. and the heavyweights need to be afraid. Very afraid. I have said that from the beggining. The longer he goes, the more dangerous he will be.

they need to weigh in right before the fight starts. would make everything more even and the way it should be. that would eliminate ALL weight issues. there is no way in 2-5 hours you can hydrate and gain 10-20lbs. you would be maybe 5lbs heavier with a full stomach and feeling like ass.

the weigh in system they have now sucks imo. If you're going to call it the 170lb weight class then they should be that hours before the fight. it's funny to say lesnar weighs 265 when they even aditted he walks around at 290ish and will be that by the time of the fight give or take a few pounds.

they need to weigh in right before the fight starts. would make everything more even and the way it should be. that would eliminate ALL weight issues. there is no way in 2-5 hours you can hydrate and gain 10-20lbs. you would be maybe 5lbs heavier with a full stomach and feeling like ass.

the weigh in system they have now sucks imo. If you're going to call it the 170lb weight class then they should be that hours before the fight. it's funny to say lesnar weighs 265 when they even aditted he walks around at 290ish and will be that by the time of the fight give or take a few pounds.


You will end up with fighters, fighting dehydrated and getting injured, sick etc.

They have tried it in collegiate wrestling etc. It doesnt work. The only thing that works a little better from what I gather, is to require them to not only make weight, but meet a given hydration level (there is a machine to test it) as well.

And if htey were to do that, what then? Add a "unlimited" class?

I think it is BS that heavyweight has an upper limit really. Heavyweight should be for the biggest of big dudes. Period.

3.4 (tournaments)
Two hours before scheduled session start on first day; one hour before on subsequent day. Wrestlers must step on each available scale once without leaving weigh-in area.
3.4(dual, tri, quad meets)
One hour before first match is scheduled to begin. In dual meets, wrestler is allowed to get on and off scale 3 times in succession.

wrestling they do weigh in very close to before they compete. my brother wrestles d1 for uofM (same school douschebag came from).

If they are dehydrated and not ready to fight that is their fault and they will lose. there is a reason for weight limits because it negates skill as we have seen with brock. If there were no weight limits you could put a sumo wrestler in there and the current ufc fighters would be screwed based on sheer size. they would keep their arms in, stay low, tackle them, sit on them and purely smother them.

remember when ufc first came out, anyone could fight anyone?
that made it interesting. that would never work now with the level of experience we have in the ring now. but damn, it would be some good ass fights, lol.

If there were no weight limits you could put a sumo wrestler in there and the current ufc fighters would be screwed based on sheer size. they would keep their arms in, stay low, tackle them, sit on them and purely smother them.

remember when ufc first came out, anyone could fight anyone?
that made it interesting. that would never work now with the level of experience we have in the ring now. but damn, it would be some good ass fights, lol.


that is my point........ heavyweight is where THOSE guys belong.

You want a purely technical fight? Lightweight, middleweight etc is where that is. Light heavyweight even some..... but it gets more to a slugfest there most of the time.

Heavyweight...... run what you brung.

a max weight is needed in heavyweight or else you'll just have the biggest or near biggest guy the champ. gets very boring when one guy wins on size and you'll have most every fight looking like you saw last night...very boring to watch. Not to mention the majority of the guys will have nowhere to go as most are not over 300lbs but unless you are you won't have a prayer in hell again some 350lb guy or 400lb guy. So the guys you see now will leave it for the huge guys and they will all go someplace else and the ufc will go downhill. What they could do is make a 265+ weight class and then require people to weigh in right before a match. would make for better fights imo in all weight classes. that's why in wrestling there is a fine line between staying lean, but if you're too lean you can't compete as you'll be dehydrated and a mess.

they need to weigh in right before the fight starts. would make everything more even and the way it should be. that would eliminate ALL weight issues. there is no way in 2-5 hours you can hydrate and gain 10-20lbs. you would be maybe 5lbs heavier with a full stomach and feeling like ass.

the weigh in system they have now sucks imo. If you're going to call it the 170lb weight class then they should be that hours before the fight. it's funny to say lesnar weighs 265 when they even aditted he walks around at 290ish and will be that by the time of the fight give or take a few pounds.


They talked about that in the GSP fight as well. I'm glad I've never had to make weight for any sport I've ever done.

speaking of GSP........ I am excited at the slim possiblity of GSP Vs Anderson Sillva at some point :punk :oogle

i dont think he will ever fight silva though.
he even said, his weight is pretty much his walkaround weight. he would be too heavy if he moved up to silvas weight class.

GSP did better then I thought. Truly an amazing athlete and greats sportsman. before the fight last night he was saying this was his best competitor ever and people worry about getting hurt going up against him. gsp deserves all the respect he gets and then some...that was the best fight of the night I thought.

GSP did better then I thought. Truly an amazing athlete and greats sportsman. before the fight last night he was saying this was his best competitor ever and people worry about getting hurt going up against him. gsp deserves all the respect he gets and then some...that was the best fight of the night I thought.
it was a fun fight at times, but seeing bisping get ktfo was the shit! lol

agreed. the second punch though wasn't needed at all. lucky he didn't break his neck.

GSP did better then I thought. Truly an amazing athlete and greats sportsman. before the fight last night he was saying this was his best competitor ever and people worry about getting hurt going up against him. gsp deserves all the respect he gets and then some...that was the best fight of the night I thought.


I saw that fight online, and I thought it was a damn good fight. They both are great athletes and sportsmen.

yes, i expected him to get up and act like lesnar, but he was a class act all the way. both them! best fight of the night and best sportsmanship of the night imo.

that second punch to bisbing was fucking hillarious

that second punch to bisbing was fucking hillarious

hell ya, hendo is my hero because of that, lol..good way to put bisbing in his place after he talked so much shit about how he was gonna knock hendo out.

Brock is just very disrespectful to the sport of martial arts, the crap he does after a fight just shows he hasn't let the WWE in him go. I think he will learn to respect the sport but it may take time. He is a great athlete and I think he just needs some mentoring. At this point, most people will pay to watch his fights just to see him get his ass kicked, will it ever happen, only time will tell. I think about the only person that can do it right now is Fedor, but that is a dream match that will probaly never happen.

And another thing. Everyone talking about how lesnar has no skil and how he dosnt belong in mma. STFU the dude is amonster athlete. he was a wrestler in college, a damned good one at that, and who cares if he was int he wwf? if i could make a fuckload of money doing that i would. but the thing is like joe said, hes here and here to stay.

Mir talked shit talked shit and talked shit. Brock fucked him up, he sitll talked shit. Would any of you take that from some one? i dont think so. I would have acted the same way some guy running his mouth as much as mir did? i wouldnt have given him the respect of touching gloves. Leading up to and after this fight brock showed way more class than mir.

Leading up to and after this fight brock showed way more class than mir.

no he didnt.

no he didnt.

Yes...... he did.

Mir was talking WAY more shit about brock, then brock ever thought about talking about Mir. Mir came out with a smug look on his face like he was there to take candy from a baby. His attitude is what got him beat.

Then after brock knocked his ass out, he STILL talked shit....... then brock finally came with attitude as he was getting booed at the same time.

Yes...... he did.

Mir was talking WAY more shit about brock, then brock ever thought about talking about Mir. Mir came out with a smug look on his face like he was there to take candy from a baby. His attitude is what got him beat.

Then after brock knocked his ass out, he STILL talked shit....... then brock finally came with attitude as he was getting booed at the same time.
it wasnt all mir here.
brock said mir had a phony belt.
mir caught brock slipping and beat him.
brock was never respectful of that loss.
mir taunting him is not disrespectful - its what all these fighters do to get into each others heads.
if mir wasnt in brocks head, brock would have charged him like he always does.
instead, brock held back, let his bigger size get mir into a really bad spot and pounded him - just like he should have.
but he didnt have to do the kimbo/wwe thing afterwards.
everyone would have respected him much more if he would have shook hands with mir afterwards and said something like, "convinced now?"

how was he supposed to shake hands with him afterwords. Mir got up wanting to charge him again........ albeit barely being able to stand. Nevada commission put like 5 guys in front of Lesnar to make sure he didnt take Mir up on his offer. You could actually here them say "calm down" to Lesnar, and he responded "give me some space and keep him away from me and I will"

Meanwhile the fans booed from the time the bell was rung, until Lesnar was in the locker room basically. He just won. He just LEGITAMATELY beat mir. He shut up the nay sayers no matter what people think about how they do the weighins and such...... based on how the rules are done now, he won.... fair and square. But he still was booed.............. I would have flipped the crowd off too.

And THAT has nothing to do with the WWE. MANY MANY fighters have done the same, showed anger at the crowds when they boo.

how was he supposed to shake hands with him afterwords. Mir got up wanting to charge him again........ albeit barely being able to stand. Nevada commission put like 5 guys in front of Lesnar to make sure he didnt take Mir up on his offer. You could actually here them say "calm down" to Lesnar, and he responded "give me some space and keep him away from me and I will"

Meanwhile the fans booed from the time the bell was rung, until Lesnar was in the locker room basically. He just won. He just LEGITAMATELY beat mir. He shut up the nay sayers no matter what people think about how they do the weighins and such...... based on how the rules are done now, he won.... fair and square. But he still was booed.............. I would have flipped the crowd off too.

And THAT has nothing to do with the WWE. MANY MANY fighters have done the same, showed anger at the crowds when they boo.

he did win. not debating that at all. ive seen many people lose their cool in ufc after a fight but they didnt go flipping everyone off and slam a sponsor, lol.
theres been many a grudge match in there that ended with a handshake. yes, mir was pretty pissed, but when he calmed down, they should have been the sports they are and get it over with.

lesnar seems kinda like a cry baby to me, o boo who they booed me :(....they boo cuz they dont like him, so him winning has nothing to do with it. i honestly think hes kinda shitty for his size, he should be able to knock anyone out being as big as he is. and its bullshit he got a tittle fight so fast just because he was famous, so thats y ppl boo him. but his little speech about why he drinks coors light istead of bud light because bud light wont pay him actually kinda made me like him lol.

I am pretty sure Tim silvia has flipped off the crowd. I think Chuck liddell has as well. Tito has. pretty sure Shamrock did as well.

Hell Hendo showed less class than Lesnar did post fight, and most people think it is hilarious, and it is ok because Hendo is a legend........ :rolleyes.

You WANT to have a reason to hate Lesnar, just like everyone else. He has not done anything that many many other fighters have not done. But he is not allowed to do it, because he used to be a WWE wrestler or whatever. Forget the fact he was in the NFL, and a collegiate wrestler as well. All people remember is he is a "fake" wrestler.

lesnar seems kinda like a cry baby to me, o boo who they booed me :(....they boo cuz they dont like him, so him winning has nothing to do with it. i honestly think hes kinda shitty for his size, he should be able to knock anyone out being as big as he is. and its bullshit he got a tittle fight so fast just because he was famous, so thats y ppl boo him. but his little speech about why he drinks coors light istead of bud light because bud light wont pay him actually kinda made me like him lol.


Couture got his first title in 4 fights I think it was....... but that was okay? :dunno

Couture got his first title in 4 fights I think it was....... but that was okay? :dunno

couture was around a lot longer. he fought much more accomplished fighters. he was somebody long before (1997) lesnar came to the ufc. hell, id liked to have seen brock take on guys like randelman, silvia, nog - anyone - just lots of them - before he got his title shot.

god damn i see some cry babies in here:thumbdown

Listen Lesnar won that fight fair and square. He is a supperior athlete to Mir. Not only was he a Div I champion and runner up he can punch you with his "lunchboxes".
I dont blame him at all for flipping off the crowd and the comment he made afterwards was hilarious:lol What is this class you speak of? Wasnt the brit talking trash throughout the whole Ultimate fighter show?:wait
Was it his fault Mir does not get bigger and reach the max weight of 285?Nope :dunno

I do however believe any and all fighters should have to make weight the morning of their fight as well as pass hydration tests. This is now required in all High school and I beleieve college wrestling. I tko'ed the number two ranked guy in my weight class senior year by take a shot and barely hitting the top of my head on his chin. Come to find out he had cut over 10lbs. His fault he couldnt keep his weight under control:idea

I was dissapointed in the Yoshihiro Akiyama match. He was not the winner of that fight. He got very few punches in and probably the only reason he won was a few take downs that did zero damage

god damn i see some cry babies in here:thumbdown

Listen Lesnar won that fight fair and square. He is a supperior athlete to Mir. Not only was he a Div I champion and runner up he can punch you with his "lunchboxes".
I dont blame him at all for flipping off the crowd and the comment he made afterwards was hilarious:lol What is this class you speak of? Wasnt the brit talking trash throughout the whole Ultimate fighter show?:wait
Was it his fault Mir does not get bigger and reach the max weight of 285?Nope :dunno

I do however believe any and all fighters should have to make weight the morning of their fight as well as pass hydration tests. This is now required in all High school and I beleieve college wrestling. I tko'ed the number two ranked guy in my weight class senior year by take a shot and barely hitting the top of my head on his chin. Come to find out he had cut over 10lbs. His fault he couldnt keep his weight under control:idea

I was dissapointed in the Yoshihiro Akiyama match. He was not the winner of that fight. He got very few punches in and probably the only reason he won was a few take downs that did zero damage
not crying - citing my opinion.
bisping had that one a-comin.
ive even said that myself - you talk trash to get in the other guys head, but after the fight - its over. end of story.
and about class. were you ever taught sportsmanship? its as simple as that.

god damn i see some cry babies in here:thumbdown

Listen Lesnar won that fight fair and square. He is a supperior athlete to Mir. Not only was he a Div I champion and runner up he can punch you with his "lunchboxes".
I dont blame him at all for flipping off the crowd and the comment he made afterwards was hilarious:lol What is this class you speak of? Wasnt the brit talking trash throughout the whole Ultimate fighter show?:wait
Was it his fault Mir does not get bigger and reach the max weight of 285?Nope :dunno

I do however believe any and all fighters should have to make weight the morning of their fight as well as pass hydration tests. This is now required in all High school and I beleieve college wrestling. I tko'ed the number two ranked guy in my weight class senior year by take a shot and barely hitting the top of my head on his chin. Come to find out he had cut over 10lbs. His fault he couldnt keep his weight under control:idea

I was dissapointed in the Yoshihiro Akiyama match. He was not the winner of that fight. He got very few punches in and probably the only reason he won was a few take downs that did zero damage

+1

Well said, Lesnar deserves the belt. It will be many fights before he lets it go. He is an explosive athelete, with amazing speed. The crowd showed the same respect they got dished back out, period.

The bisping fight was great. I was excited to see him get knocked out, but that last punch was a little far. No need to TRY and cause brain damage. Not how I roll in a ring:dunno

GSP is on top of the world right now, pretty much unstoppable. Very well rounded fighter.

I was also dissapointed in the judges call i the first fight. That was completely mis judge, IMO.

Joe, No fucking way Hendo showed less class then fucking Lesnar, that is just silly. :nono

i dont think brock cheated, he just didnt win using skills that an mma guy should use. did it achieve what he wanted? it sure did. doesnt take away his doucheness though.

^^^Sir, I must correct you. The correct term is "douchosity":cheers

couture was around a lot longer. he fought much more accomplished fighters. he was somebody long before (1997) lesnar came to the ufc. hell, id liked to have seen brock take on guys like randelman, silvia, nog - anyone - just lots of them - before he got his title shot.


If by somebody you mean a wrestler? Yeah.

UFC 13 is shown as his first professional fight in 1997....... then UFC:Japan as his fourth fight, and the one at which he won his first title.

I cant find anything saying he was anything before that :dunno

Joe, No fucking way Hendo showed less class then fucking Lesnar, that is just silly. :nono

He got up, Talked mad shit AFTER knocking the dude out, while he was STILL knocked out, never checked on him once after the fight like most fighters would, and ADMITTED to landing a sucker punch while the dude was knocked out.

If that is not a total lack of class, i dont know what is. :wacko

If by somebody you mean a wrestler? Yeah.

UFC 13 is shown as his first professional fight in 1997....... then UFC:Japan as his fourth fight, and the one at which he won his first title.

I cant find anything saying he was anything before that :dunnoi checked wiki too and it didnt list anything either, lol.

hendo did apologize after. he just said he was joking when he commented about throwing the 2nd punch. not his first time doing that though. watch some of his pride fights and youll hes done that before.
his words "i was doing my job" and something to the effect of, "you dont stop till the ref tells you to."

And another thing. Everyone talking about how lesnar has no skil and how he dosnt belong in mma. STFU the dude is amonster athlete. he was a wrestler in college, a damned good one at that, and who cares if he was int he wwf? if i could make a fuckload of money doing that i would. but the thing is like joe said, hes here and here to stay.

Mir talked shit talked shit and talked shit. Brock fucked him up, he sitll talked shit. Would any of you take that from some one? i dont think so. I would have acted the same way some guy running his mouth as much as mir did? i wouldnt have given him the respect of touching gloves. Leading up to and after this fight brock showed way more class than mir.


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Lesnar is a loudmouth. Cannot WAIT for him to meet Fedor. Time for his ass to get stomped.

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UFC 100 Salaries and Bonuses

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Dan Henderson ($100,000 to show, $150,000 to win) def. Michael Bisping ($150,000 to show).
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I doubt if Fedor will ever fight in the UFC and this is probaly the closet we will ever see to what that fight might look like. Ya know I went to College with Stephen Neal, he beat Lesnar in the '99 NCAA title Match and he always talked about how big and strong Brock was and how you can't make mistakes with guys like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGLTssPbBdk

Well 100 % right for me on the night...

So glad Bisping got his bell rung. And glad Brock beat down Mir. All the jock riders can fall back now.
Theres been worse sportsmenship across any and every professional sport. The media is a bunch of whiny bitches more so than Brock.

I doubt if Fedor will ever fight in the UFC and this is probaly the closet we will ever see to what that fight might look like. Ya know I went to College with Stephen Neal, he beat Lesnar in the '99 NCAA title Match and he always talked about how big and strong Brock was and how you can't make mistakes with guys like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGLTssPbBdk

i dont think fedor ever will. dana white has talked way too much shit about him. wouldnt even really acknowledge him when he beat down silvia in like 39 seconds or so. too bad, fedor would bring some needed excitement to that class. or, he might go down like cro-cop, but i doubt it....

Dana just said yesterday the UFC is going to make a play for Fedor so who knows. I think Brock would probably get his ass kicked against Fedor

Dana just said yesterday the UFC is going to make a play for Fedor so who knows. I think Brock would probably get his ass kicked against Fedor

man, you imagine the pay-per-view dollars in that fight?

Dana just said yesterday the UFC is going to make a play for Fedor so who knows. I think Brock would probably get his ass kicked against Fedor

Not so sure about that.........


Fedor does NOT impress me vs Lesnar. That "hong" dude was WAY slower, not nearly as fast and conditioned as Lesnar, and not as strong, IMO. Fedor would walk into a sure loss with Lesnar.


Fedor : 6 ft 225 lbs

Lesnar: 6ft 3inches 270 lbs

Look at the physique of lesnar vs Fedor, I just don't see a chance unless lesnar leaves an arm or leg open. He will power through anything else. Hong just layed on top of fedor. Lesner wraps his hand around the thoat and drops bricks on the face at a high rate of speed.

Not so sure about that.........


Fedor does NOT impress me vs Lesnar. That "hong" dude was WAY slower, not nearly as fast and conditioned as Lesnar, and not as strong, IMO. Fedor would walk into a sure loss with Lesnar.

lol. are you even talking about the same fedor? a sure loss?
now ive heard it all...

lol. are you even talking about the same fedor? a sure loss?
now ive heard it all...

Read my edit. I don't think its going to happen

i must just not be getting it or something. still looks to me like youll think lesnar will walk over fedor - which i totally dont see happening.

Everyone always doubts Fedor, mostly because they don't really follow MMA just the UFC.

Everyone always doubts Fedor, mostly because they don't really follow MMA just the UFC.

yeah no kidding.
you never count the russian experiment out. :)

Not so sure about that.........


Fedor does NOT impress me vs Lesnar. That "hong" dude was WAY slower, not nearly as fast and conditioned as Lesnar, and not as strong, IMO. Fedor would walk into a sure loss with Lesnar.


Fedor : 6 ft 225 lbs

Lesnar: 6ft 3inches 270 lbs

Look at the physique of lesnar vs Fedor, I just don't see a chance unless lesnar leaves an arm or leg open. He will power through anything else. Hong just layed on top of fedor. Lesner wraps his hand around the thoat and drops bricks on the face at a high rate of speed

Lesnar has nothing impressive (IMO) aside from speed. He hasn't shown any impressive stand up, or ground game. The man relies on his size and strength.

Fedor has fought both larger and stronger opponents as well as faster opponents, and handled them with equal ease.

I just don't see a man like Lesnar beating him.

Suck lesnars cock all you want, it doesn't make him god....

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-lesnar071209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

good write up. mir said some things about lesnar prefight, but nothing over the top and i saw NO smack talking from mir afte the fight and this article doesn't mention it either. i saw lesnar not stopping the shit talking after the fight while mir was trying to get his act togther. mir gave a great talk after the fight and gave lesnar props and even admitted he made a mistake. lesnar just embarassed everything about mixed martial arts, himself, his trainers, and the ufc imo. I'm sure white though isn't too upset about what lesnar did as it got everyone talking and any publicity is good publicity as the saying goes. dana white got what he wanted in brock, but now if the heavyweights leave or he can't sign fedor then the heavyweight part of ufc will be dead and boring.

No matter how you feel about Brock IMO he has too few fights to be a champ. No way anyone should get a chance for a belt in thier 4th fight

Suck lesnars cock all you want, it doesn't make him god....

:wait

That was weak. I'm a fan of Lesnar so I suck his cock?:scratch Take fedors cock from your mouth so you can suck mine bitch:lol

:wait

That was weak. I'm a fan of Lesnar so I suck his cock?:scratch Take fedors cock from your mouth so you can suck mine bitch:lol
That was more of an in general statement, not directed towards you specifically. Also, I was drunk.

Either way, Fedor is the best heavy weight in the world, much better than Lesnar. I'm not even a fan of Fedor, but I can recognize hype when I see it, and that is just about all Lesnar has goin for him aside from his monsterous size and surprising speed...

Man some people are fuckin haters. There is no doubt Fedor is a beast arguably the best Heavy in quite some time. But HYPE? We're not talking about Kimbo Slice fighting scrubs on MMA's stage JV league. Frank Mir is a great fighter technically sound through and through and got his ass kicked. First match was going that way before he locked up Brocks leg. You have to realize the size and speed this dude poses with a outstanding back ground in wrestling, hes no cake ass WWE "wrastler"
For Brock to get the belt in 4 fights is quite a feat considering the competition he has gone through. Mir twice, Couture, Herring. They didnt give him time to fight cup cakes to pad his record.
Not saying Brock is the best or would hammer Fedor, but you MUST pay respect to a man with his ability. He is the' best Heavy in the UFC!

I call it hype. His fighting ability has yet to impress me.

What do all his fights come to? (with the exception of the Herring fight) He just lays on his opponents and hits them knowing full well his close to 300 pound frame is gonna be damned tough to push off from the bottom. I wouldn't even call that ground and pound, I call it the fat ass technique. Thats exactly what the fat kids in elementary school do in a fight, sit on their opponent and hit them. What is to be impressed by?

As I said, the only thing he has that I find impressive is speed with his size, it's not often you see a guy that big move that fast. Other than that, as a fighter, he's lackluster at best...

I call it hype. His fighting ability has yet to impress me.

What do all his fights come to? (with the exception of the Herring fight) He just lays on his opponents and hits them knowing full well his close to 300 pound frame is gonna be damned tough to push off from the bottom. I wouldn't even call that ground and pound, I call it the fat ass technique. Thats exactly what the fat kids in elementary school do in a fight, sit on their opponent and hit them. What is to be impressed by?

As I said, the only thing he has that I find impressive is speed with his size, it's not often you see a guy that big move that fast. Other than that, as a fighter, he's lackluster at best...

like mir said, "he lays on you and punches you with 2 inch punches. its annoying - its like your kid sister sitting there slapping you in the face."
i agree with that. 2 inch hammer fists are impressive looking but what are they really doing? shit, if i was 300 pounds, id lay on a dude 50lbs lighter than on me and pound him into oblivion too. it doesnt exactly take skill to do that.

Brock, as a person, is an immature asshole. The things he says sound like a 4th grader. He disprespected a lot of people that night from Mir to the UFC sponsors to Dana White...hell, even disrespected his wife!

Brock, as a figther, isn't the best MMA fighter out there at the moment but, he still won. No matter how he did it, rabbitt puches or laying on top of Mir, he won & is the UFC Champ. Bottom line. (even if he looks more like that 4th grade bully rather than a skilled jits technician)

Who do Dana White & Joel Silva put him up against next?!?! :dunno

Brock, as a person, is an immature asshole. The things he says sound like a 4th grader. He disprespected a lot of people that night from Mir to the UFC sponsors to Dana White...hell, even disrespected his wife!

Brock, as a figther, isn't the best MMA fighter out there at the moment but, he still won. No matter how he did it, rabbitt puches or laying on top of Mir, he won & is the UFC Champ. Bottom line. (even if he looks more like that 4th grade bully rather than a skilled jits technician)

Who do Dana White & Joel Silva put him up against next?!?! :dunno
theres an article out right now with white being quoted that he wants brock to take on fedor once fedors affliction contract runs out...

Who do Dana White & Joel Silva put him up against next?!?! :dunno

The door...:lmao

Yea Brock is just some 300 lb bum that smothers you with rabbit punches. You guys will have an excuse for anything. If anything a Jujitsu dude should feel good fighting on his back with a scrub on top of him. Its not like Mir is some kind of supreme boxer who needs to be on his feet. You play to your opponents weakness, if someone were to stand up and go blow for blow with Rampage they'd call you a fool. Throwing around the weight shit is a poor excuse. Champions win, period. I never liked Forrest fight style, he lets you kick his ass till your so tired he can submit you. lol, i mean come on. Give some valid points or give the dude respect and keep it moving.

Yea Brock is just some 300 lb bum that smothers you with rabbit punches. You guys will have an excuse for anything. If anything a Jujitsu dude should feel good fighting on his back with a scrub on top of him. Its not like Mir is some kind of supreme boxer who needs to be on his feet. You play to your opponents weakness, if someone were to stand up and go blow for blow with Rampage they'd call you a fool. Throwing around the weight shit is a poor excuse. Champions win, period. I never liked Forrest fight style, he lets you kick his ass till your so tired he can submit you. lol, i mean come on. Give some valid points or give the dude respect and keep it moving.


So, you're saying that all of his opponents weaknesses are being laid on and punched? Sounds like a one dimensional fighter as opposed to a champion.

Face it, there is nothing impressive about him other than size and speed. Nothing...

Its not like Mir is some kind of supreme boxer who needs to be on his feet

Did you see the Nogueira fight?!?! Mir picked him apart with his boxing. He looked like a pro golden gloves champ that night!

Next up for Brock Lesnar; winner of Hulk Hogan vs. The Iron Sheik (UFC 104) :spit

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like mir said, "he lays on you and punches you with 2 inch punches. its annoying - its like your kid sister sitting there slapping you in the face."
i agree with that. 2 inch hammer fists are impressive looking but what are they really doing? shit, if i was 300 pounds, id lay on a dude 50lbs lighter than on me and pound him into oblivion too. it doesnt exactly take skill to do that.

those two inch hammer fists sure looked to annoy the FUCK out of Mirs face huh :wacko

That statement was the craziest thing Mir said. Herrings face looked like road kill after those hammer fists, and so did Mirs....... maybe there is something behind them afterall :wacko

Nothing impressive besides his size and speed? Those two things alone will carry you in most contact sports. One dimensional fighters do not last in MMA. FACT! Him getting on you is his form of ground and pound. Just because he sprawls on you and isnt in the guard changes nothing.

Champions win, i hope the Fedor fight happens.

No matter what, Lesnar is going to be around for a while. I hope he ends up showing more class since he is the champ now. He can't continue to treat this like it is Monday Night RAW & he is going to fight the Undertaker. :nono

Biggest ticket seller of 2009/2010:

Brock Lesnar vs. Kimbo Slice (new TUF contestant)

Regardless if lesnar stands toe to toe and boxes with his opponent, i think the result is the same. He has wicked power behind his punches from the ground, and it would be pretty safe to say more so standing up. Mir's face was fucked up after only a few punches from the ground with limited range and distance...imagine if he is able to stand up and swing how much damage he would cause...as everyone has said, he is a newcomer to MMA. give him an opponent that can avoid the takedown and I still think the result will be the same if he can connect.

Nothing impressive besides his size and speed? Those two things alone will carry you in most contact sports.

Great, we're not talking about most contact sports, if that's all he plans on bringing to the table he should have stuck with football.

I'd like to see some fights that show he has more MMA ability than the fat kid on the playground.



One dimensional fighters do not last in MMA. FACT!

So, 5 fights count as "lasting in the MMA"?

I completely agree that one dimensional fighters don't last, and I think Lesnar will go the way of previous one dimensional fighters...


Him getting on you is his form of ground and pound. Just because he sprawls on you and isnt in the guard changes nothing.

Call it ground and pound if you want, I'll stick to calling it the fat ass technique, since that is more accurate...


Champions win, i hope the Fedor fight happens.

You're right, champions win. Some use skill, and others use circumstance, Lesnar falls in the latter.

I hope the Fedor fight happens as well, it would be great to see.

Regardless if lesnar stands toe to toe and boxes with his opponent, i think the result is the same. He has wicked power behind his punches from the ground, and it would be pretty safe to say more so standing up. Mir's face was fucked up after only a few punches from the ground with limited range and distance...imagine if he is able to stand up and swing how much damage he would cause...as everyone has said, he is a newcomer to MMA. give him an opponent that can avoid the takedown and I still think the result will be the same if he can connect.

So, why didn't Herring get KO'd? He stood with him quite a bit. He still lost the fight, but it was decision, not a KO.

Great, we're not talking about most contact sports, if that's all he plans on bringing to the table he should have stuck with football.

I'd like to see some fights that show he has more MMA ability than the fat kid on the playground.


It is not called the "UMMAC" Ultimate Mixed Martial Arts Championship.

It is called the Ultimate FIGHTING championship. Lesnar won a FIGHT. He did so within the rules of the sport. He is champion, and will stay that way for a long time, even with the limited martial arts training he has.

Call it what you want, this isn't MMA days of fat fucks like Tank Abbott beating up on people. Everyone of these athletes are rounded fighters. A one dimensional fighter would get exposed and disposed of quickly, regardless of size. If your on the "ground" getting "pounded" guess what = ground n pound. Herring did last, but count how many times he got bitch tossed or dropped .. Whoever is to beat Brock is going to need chin, stamina and submission skills.

It is not called the "UMMAC" Ultimate Mixed Martial Arts Championship.

It is called the Ultimate FIGHTING championship. Lesnar won a FIGHT. He did so within the rules of the sport. He is champion, and will stay that way for a long time, even with the limited martial arts training he has.

That may be, but he'll always be the least talented champ around. Well not the least, I'd say Tim Sylvia held that title...

Call it what you want, this isn't MMA days of fat fucks like Tank Abbott beating up on people. Everyone of these athletes are rounded fighters. A one dimensional fighter would get exposed and disposed of quickly, regardless of size. If your on the "ground" getting "pounded" guess what = ground n pound. Herring did last, but count how many times he got bitch tossed or dropped .. Whoever is to beat Brock is going to need chin, stamina and submission skills.

He's got one dimension to his fights, I just finished watching them all (including his 1 K1 fight), and all he does it get someone to the ground and lay on them while beating them.

That is 1 dimension. People can see it now, they just can't do much about the 300 pound oaf laying on them.

I don't think it will take long for someone to beat him, but then I could be wrong.

Champ or not, he is a lackluster fighter, there is no getting around that fact. Lesnar is not a well rounded fighter, he's a specialist in the fat ass technique (ground and pound if you really think what he does qualifies as such) and really won't make much of a mark in MMA history of that doesn't change.

He'll be just another giant guy people had problems beating in the beginning...

it's not a bad thing, but it doesn't deserve any props at all. weight is always an issue and if it wasn't they wouldn't weigh in. they need to make them weigh in the DAY of the fight or right before they fight.

I know this was posted way back, but you guys need to read up on the history of BJJ before you go saying lesnar won it with weight. Mir has lost a step in his bjj, obviously. Lets put him in the ring with Minotauro and see how he imposses his will on him. Damn sure cant stand with him, and if he is submittable, Antonio will do it.

Ok, I'm not reading any more of the earlier stuff because seems like we are separated in 2. Every few years, someone comes along that changes the face of MMA. Lesnar is the new guy. Yeah hes big, but he completely mauled one of the best BJJ fighters ever Saturday night and he deserves the belt. I think someone already reference Royce and severn, but I think someone needs to go a little further back and read about Royces father and the guy that outweighed him by 300 pounds. Bjj is meant to submit much bigger, much stronger opponents.

I agree that he is bad for the sport, but if anyone can make him shut his mouth its Dana white. Dana dont fuck around. He will end Lesnars contract if he doesnt shut his mouth...Take a look at the ufc, alot of big names come and go because they start running their mouth about management and such. If he gets too much further out of line, Dana will find someone to replace him and ship him off to strikeforce.

Fedor arm barred a guy that outweighed him by over 100 lbs, Why couldn't Mir do the same. Chuck Liddel won al but one of his fights by strikes, is he one dimensional? Dana's a business man he cares about money, Brock's antics have generated more viewers. More people will start watching to see him win and more will start watcig to see him lose.

Fedor arm barred a guy that outweighed him by over 100 lbs, Why couldn't Mir do the same. Chuck Liddel won al but one of his fights by strikes, is he one dimensional? Dana's a business man he cares about money, Brock's antics have generated more viewers. More people will start watching to see him win and more will start watcig to see him lose.


Exactly. Every sport has someone that everybody hates.

As I said, a BJJ guy should feel comfortable fighting on his back with a "lackluster opponent" on top of him. The very art of BJJ is intended for this. Brock is going to be around for awhile. Unless someone can ring his bell with kicks to keep distance up, or submit him. He has enough awareness to survive. Hes a wrestling champion and knows the techniques. Couple that with the brute strength you have a animal. Your not getting some big bastard from the bar ala Tank Abbott who can just brawl you.
Your gonna have to weather his storm then submit his big ass. Its do-able, question in how long will it take for some one to do it.

^^Yeah, yeah. We all know. He's great. He's immortal. Whatever else you wanna say about him.


He's not impressive. He's on dimensional, he won't last. If he does, I'll eat my words, send you some beer, whatever.

He's a lackluster fighter, he's good for now, but he'll loose soon. And after that he'll go the way of other big oaf's...

So, why didn't Herring get KO'd? He stood with him quite a bit. He still lost the fight, but it was decision, not a KO.


I didn't say anything about a KO...I said the results would be the same if not better...IE...face fucked up and another number added to the left side of his record...

also if you remember their first match up...wasn't it brock who dropped mir like a sack of potatoes during the stand up portion of the fight then unfortuantely due to inexperience, got caught in the ankle lock?

Fedor arm barred a guy that outweighed him by over 100 lbs, Why couldn't Mir do the same. Chuck Liddel won al but one of his fights by strikes, is he one dimensional? Dana's a business man he cares about money, Brock's antics have generated more viewers. More people will start watching to see him win and more will start watcig to see him lose.

pre-fucking-cisely...people seem to forget all too easily when they hate someone. i was going to raise this point as well...I never saw much skill from liddell either aside from boxing and his every now and then submission attempt. He was pretty much a brawler. now look at him once people started catching on to his lack of well roudnedness(if that's even a word?)...now the dude can barely buy a win. if MIR was a better fighter, he would have avoided the takedown and never would have had lesnar on top of him turning his face into hamburger.

I'd like to see any new MMA fighter come in and within his first 5 fights go up against the likes of Mir twice, Herring, and Couture. Hes not going to get any worse.