POS Corzine was able to sway the vote(thats right, one vote) and pass a law which states you're only allowed to purchase 1 handgun per month in NJ.

:cursing

:dissapointed

That sucks. Sorry to hear that.

You cant get a CCWP so what does it really matter? Next to D.C. and NYC, NJ is the most 2nd amendment neutered state.

POS Corzine was able to sway the vote(thats right, one vote) and pass a law which states you're only allowed to purchase 1 handgun per month in NJ.

:cursing


Damn cakes, how many handguns do you normally purchase per month?

:spit

Damn cakes, how many handguns do you normally purchase per month?

:spit

I bought 3 once:lol

That doesn't seem like a huge deal to me. How many guns do you need to buy per month?

I know people who pick up multiple guns at the same time...saves on NIC checks(one call instead of calling each time for each one.) Its just another thing we in NJ have to put up with. My last handgun purchase I think was 6 months ago...but if I wanted to go by 2 more next month, I can't? Give me an f'n break.

Damn cakes, how many handguns do you normally purchase per month?

:spit
Got into the gun thing about a year ago, purchased 6 firearms within the first 8mo lol.

A minor inconvenience I guess. The background check is like 5 bucks in FL. Don't know if its more where you are, but I doubt its breaking the bank for you.

shit, try living in upstate ny - takes over a year to buy just that one.
i miss living in az where i can buy several guns at one time and all it costs me is the price of the guns and a few minutes of paperwork.

I don't get what this does except slow gun sales? Seems like a good thing to do when the economy is in a slump, force sales to slow down.

I guess I would really hate this law if I was rich. I would be buying tons of guns.

Damn cakes, how many handguns do you normally purchase per month?

:spit

Any law that makes it more difficult to buy firearms such as this one infringes on our 2nd amendment right. They just keep chipping away a little at a time... :banghead

Thank you Jer :cheers

Commifornia has the same law, but most shops will let you buy, but you have to wait 30 days per to register & bring home.:cursing:

Commifornia has the same law, but most shops will let you buy, but you have to wait 30 days per to register & bring home.:cursing:

that sucks because after 30 days - youre not even mad anymore.

Any law that makes it more difficult to buy firearms such as this one infringes on our 2nd amendment right. They just keep chipping away a little at a time... :banghead



Perhaps, but the reason that ammendment was put in place back then is not really tangible in this day and age.

The right to bear arms was put there so that the public could rise up and over throw a tyrannical government. Gonna take alot more than a few guns to overthrow the US Government in 2009 don't you think.

It wasn't put there so that every 1 in 1000 people could stockpile an arsenal in their basement. JMO

You cant get a CCWP so what does it really matter? Next to D.C. and NYC, NJ is the most 2nd amendment neutered state.

What's ironic is these states have a TON of gun crime.

Perhaps, but the reason that ammendment was put in place back then is not really tangible in this day and age.

The right to bear arms was put there so that the public could rise up and over throw a tyrannical government. Gonna take alot more than a few guns to overthrow the US Government in 2009 don't you think.

It wasn't put there so that every 1 in 1000 people could stockpile an arsenal in their basement. JMO

So you think that today it makes more sense to have an unarmed civilian population ripe for the picking? It holds true today more than ever and is EXACTLY what that amendment was created and not only that it was the 2nd most important amendment. Study history and you'll see the horrors that followed when governments took gun rights away from civilians.

What's ironic is these states have a TON of gun crime.

I wouldn't call it irony as much as proof. Ask Australia what happens to the crime rate when you take gun rights away from the civilians.

So you think that today it makes more sense to have an unarmed civilian population ripe for the picking? It holds true today more than ever and is EXACTLY what that amendment was created and not only that it was the 2nd most important amendment. Study history and you'll see the horrors that followed when governments took gun rights away from civilians.


Ripe for what picking? And even if every civilian had a handgun do you think that's sufficient to overthrow our government?

What's a handgun going to do for you against the advanced weaponry the military has at its disposal?

Ripe for what picking? And even if every civilian had a handgun do you think that's sufficient to overthrow our government?

What's a handgun going to do for you against the advanced weaponry the military has at its disposal?

Who's talking about a simple handgun here? You seem to think that this law only prevents people from buying handguns at a faster rate. What you don't realize is that EVERY law that makes it more difficult is another step towards the direction of unarmed citizens.

Read history to find out why that's bad before you keep trying to guess why it is.

My memory serves me right... Mr. hilter was a ground-breaking Anti-gun lawmaker.. making it impossible for the public to own or have any firearm....

HMMMMMMMM history... the phrase "history repeats itself" wasnt born out of thin air.

it is a step in disarming us. i think what jer means is your taking a tool of self defense away from citizens. if someone wants to buy a truck load of guns so be it. the government doesn't need to put a restriction on how many he can buy. guns are a tool and used as such. i don't know why people don't understand that.

my advice to anyone reading this thread and has the same views as myself and jer should join the nra. sorry for the solicitation but its the truth. :cheers

This subject I agree with Jer on. Also, alot of Military, if the SHTF, would turn against the goverment themselves. This is another step to try and slow down the arming of civilians, and take rights away.

What's ironic is these states have a TON of gun crime.


Actually, if you're talking gun homicides, NJ & NY rank 25th & 26th...('08)

Who's talking about a simple handgun here? You seem to think that this law only prevents people from buying handguns at a faster rate. What you don't realize is that EVERY law that makes it more difficult is another step towards the direction of unarmed citizens.

Read history to find out why that's bad before you keep trying to guess why it is.

FYI :scratch

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet
Union established gun control. From 1929 to
1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey
established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in
1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and
others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up
and exterminated.

China established gun control in
1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated

Guatemala established gun control
in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Uganda established gun
control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in
1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable
to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated
in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners
in Australia were forced by new law
to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
destroyed by their own Government, a program
costing Australia taxpayers more
than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6
percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44
percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of
Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now
up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens
turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still
possess their guns!

FYI :scratch

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet
Union established gun control. From 1929 to
1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey
established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in
1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and
others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up
and exterminated.

China established gun control in
1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated

Guatemala established gun control
in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Uganda established gun
control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in
1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable
to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated
in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners
in Australia were forced by new law
to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
destroyed by their own Government, a program
costing Australia taxpayers more
than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6
percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44
percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of
Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now
up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens
turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still
possess their guns!

Exactly what I was hinting at. People who say we're silly to hold onto something that isn't necessary crack me up. It's one thing to read these numbers but it's another to actually immerse yourself in the history behind these numbers and know that it was REAL people and families like yours and mine that were put through hell w/o the ability to protect themselves. No thanks.

From my cold dead hands:shifty

buy a gun or be exterminated

One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic .22 rifles and shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars, the results are in...

A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun control advocates respond "Just wait... we'll be safer... you'll see...".

OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2%
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%
Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44% (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT)
In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300%
Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of- the-elderly
At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm"
From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard.
The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international sport shooting competitions
The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected.
Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns". Their response has been to "wait longer".

This is the latest update I could find.

Their response has been to "wait longer"
that sounds just like something that would come from the White House. It will work just have to wait longer.

buy a gun or be exterminated

No thats not what that says. But the loss of the ablity to defend yourself does show in the stats posted. Crime rates did go up. The only people that dont have firearms are the people that follow the law and give up their firearm.

The only people have have firearms now are the ones that set out to do harm to lawful people.

Does anyone think that the police department can handle every call it gets about a crime. And now under the laws that only criminals. You think they turned over theirs?

You cant get a CCWP so what does it really matter? Next to D.C. and NYC, NJ is the most 2nd amendment neutered state.

Don't forget about the People's Republic of California...

I bought 3 once:lol

Slacker. :biggrin

No thats not what that says. But the loss of the ablity to defend yourself does show in the stats posted. Crime rates did go up. The only people that dont have firearms are the people that follow the law and give up their firearm.

The only people have have firearms now are the ones that set out to do harm to lawful people.

Does anyone think that the police department can handle every call it gets about a crime. And now under the laws that only criminals. You think they turned over theirs?

Not to mention with budget cuts we have fewer LEOs on the streets and with the unemployment rate climbing the crime rates are increasing. Not a good balance if you're law abiding. I like the Police much like I like firemen and I trust both agencies for the most part but that doesn't mean I want the government saying I can't own fire extinguishers.

Not to mention with budget cuts we have fewer LEOs on the streets and with the unemployment rate climbing the crime rates are increasing. Not a good balance if you're law abiding. I like the Police much like I like firemen and I trust both agencies for the most part but that doesn't mean I want the government saying I can't own fire extinguishers.


That's exactly it. I know the reality of things, and even if it's just peace of mind, I'd rather that a family is huddled in a closet with a loaded gun waiting for me and the rest of the calvary rather than just hiding and hoping I get there before the boogey man gets to them.

And if all hell breaks loose somewhere, I'd rather sort out a firefight than a plain massacre. Just remember to make it clear to me that you're the good guy so you don't get it too, and sorry, you're going to be handcuffed for a few minutes until we know for sure that you were on the right side.

That's exactly it. I know the reality of things, and even if it's just peace of mind, I'd rather that a family is huddled in a closet with a loaded gun waiting for me and the rest of the calvary rather than just hiding and hoping I get there before the boogey man gets to them.

And if all hell breaks loose somewhere, I'd rather sort out a firefight than a plain massacre. Just remember to make it clear to me that you're the good guy so you don't get it too, and sorry, you're going to be handcuffed for a few minutes until we know for sure that you were on the right side.


:cheers:cheers

That's exactly it. I know the reality of things, and even if it's just peace of mind, I'd rather that a family is huddled in a closet with a loaded gun waiting for me and the rest of the calvary rather than just hiding and hoping I get there before the boogey man gets to them.

And if all hell breaks loose somewhere, I'd rather sort out a firefight than a plain massacre. Just remember to make it clear to me that you're the good guy so you don't get it too, and sorry, you're going to be handcuffed for a few minutes until we know for sure that you were on the right side.

:cheers I could live what that.

it is a step in disarming us. i think what jer means is your taking a tool of self defense away from citizens. if someone wants to buy a truck load of guns so be it. the government doesn't need to put a restriction on how many he can buy. guns are a tool and used as such. i don't know why people don't understand that.

my advice to anyone reading this thread and has the same views as myself and jer should join the nra. sorry for the solicitation but its the truth. :cheers


Aside from the what i have read on the internet and the solicitation by mail, what is the NRA all about?? I'm mean really, what are they going to do for ME, in addition to fighting for MY as well as others gun rights... I consider myself to be a law-abiding citizen and purchased my firearm legally. If I were to join the NRA, would I be put on some time of government watch list?? Thats is if I'm not already on one since the background check! lol. :shifty

the nra does a lot for everyone, even those that arent paying members. they watch all the gun laws closely and fight the ones they can.

http://home.nra.org/#/home

Aside from the what i have read on the internet and the solicitation by mail, what is the NRA all about?? I'm mean really, what are they going to do for ME, in addition to fighting for MY as well as others gun rights... I consider myself to be a law-abiding citizen and purchased my firearm legally. If I were to join the NRA, would I be put on some time of government watch list?? Thats is if I'm not already on one since the background check! lol. :shifty


If youve bought a gun, your already a registered gun owner. Take your older unregistered guns, (SKS, AK47, older semi pistols, revolvers, guns bought from friends a long time ago, ect) stockpile ammo for them and bury them.:p

If youve bought a gun, your already a registered gun owner. Take your older unregistered guns, (SKS, AK47, older semi pistols, revolvers, guns bought from friends a long time ago, ect) stockpile ammo for them and bury them.:p

unless you live in an old west state like arizona that requires no registration or licensing.

unless you live in an old west state like arizona that requires no registration or licensing.


I live in Texas aka The Wild West (part of it.) From my experience (s) we are very pro-gun.

If youve bought a gun, your already a registered gun owner. Take your older unregistered guns, (SKS, AK47, older semi pistols, revolvers, guns bought from friends a long time ago, ect) stockpile ammo for them and bury them.:p

Advice noted.... Well the Gun show is this weekend, so I will see what I can find!!:cheers

is it mandatory licensing/registration in texas?

is it mandatory licensing/registration in texas?

To my knowledge, no it is not mandatory. :scratch
But if anyone else cares to chime in, please do and correct me if I am wrong.