I have used this in the past.....works great.....what are your thoughts on this?

IMHO,

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let me elaborate a bit on my short responce...


In the past i've taken ephedra type products much like hydroxy cut. They do work... However, I found when I stopped taking them my metabolism would slow waaaaaaay down beond normal and I'd gain fat FAST! When I was on them I was thin and peppy... almost TOO peppy. I had HUGE mood swings and needed my "go pills" to do pretty much anything then.

Now through reasearch, and a little common sence I've come to the conclusion that 99.99% of the hydro__ cut type products do more long term damage then good. I'm sure body builders will argue with me that if used properly they can be very benificial. I'm also sure this is true for their goals. However the problem is most people are using them wrongly.

If your goal is to shed a few pounds, there are only 2 things you need. DIET & EXERSISE! First step is to get on a nutrition plan that sutes your body's basic needs. Then incorparate some time at the gym. This will make your your body LOVE you. The pills on the other hand... well, if you enjoy feeling like crap comming down from a geeked out ephedra buzz then more power to you. I for one think for long term results, natural exersize is the only way to go.

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Spidey said:


If your goal is to shed a few pounds, there are only 2 things you need. DIET & EXERSISE! First step is to get on a nutrition plan that sutes your body's basic needs. Then incorparate some time at the gym. This will make your your body LOVE you. The pills on the other hand... well, if you enjoy feeling like crap comming down from a geeked out ephedra buzz then more power to you. I for one think for long term results, natural exersize is the only way to go.

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its all you need

Thanks.....what would be a good diet? Can you guys post what diet you go with?

Spidey said:
let me elaborate a bit on my short responce...


In the past i've taken ephedra type products much like hydroxy cut. They do work... However, I found when I stopped taking them my metabolism would slow waaaaaaay down beond normal and I'd gain fat FAST! When I was on them I was thin and peppy... almost TOO peppy. I had HUGE mood swings and needed my "go pills" to do pretty much anything then.

Now through reasearch, and a little common sence I've come to the conclusion that 99.99% of the hydro__ cut type products do more long term damage then good. I'm sure body builders will argue with me that if used properly they can be very benificial. I'm also sure this is true for their goals. However the problem is most people are using them wrongly.

If your goal is to shed a few pounds, there are only 2 things you need. DIET & EXERSISE! First step is to get on a nutrition plan that sutes your body's basic needs. Then incorparate some time at the gym. This will make your your body LOVE you. The pills on the other hand... well, if you enjoy feeling like crap comming down from a geeked out ephedra buzz then more power to you. I for one think for long term results, natural exersize is the only way to go.

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif


I found that people are always looking for instant gratification with things in life,diet/losing fat notwithstanding.There is no "magic pill"(actually there is,but thats another subject)that enables one to burn fat instantly without any ramifications.
Anyway,Hydroxycut (pre-ephedra ban) was just a E.C.A. stack that someone marketed and it did work to some extent to burn fat.I found it effective as a little bit of a "booster" to help fat-loss when I diet.Keep in mind that my diet is 100% tight and on the money for MY needs,15yrs. of doing this enables me to know how my body works and reacts to changes I make.So for my needs,it did work,now that the Ephedra is gone,it's just a little bit of a wake-me-up in the morning for me.I don't count or rely on it for fat loss.

40/40/20 prot carb fat
no saturated fats ...flax oil fish oil etc
PROTEINS

Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
Tuna (water packed)
Fish (salmon, seabass, halibut)
Shrimp
Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
Venison
Buffalo
Ostrich
Protein Powder
Egg Whites or Whole Eggs
Ribeye Steaks or Roast
Top Round Steaks or Roast (aka Stew Meat, London Broil, Stir Fry)
Top Sirloin (aka Sirloin Top Butt)
Beef Tenderloin (aka Filet, Filet Mignon)
Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
Flank Steak (Sir Fry, Fajita)
Eye of Round (Cube Meat, Stew Meat, Bottom Round , 96% LeandGround Round)
Ground turkey, Turkey Breast Slices or cutlets (fresh meat, not deli cuts)
Soy Burgers
Low-fat cottage cheese

SLOW BURNING/COMPLEX CARBS

Oatmeal (Old Fashioned or Quick Oats)
Sweet Potatoes (Yams)
Beans (pinto, black, kidney)
Oat Bran Cereal
Rye Cereal
Grape Nuts
Brown Rice
Farina (Cream of Wheat)
Multigrain Hot Cereal
Whole wheat or Spinach Pasta
100% Stoneground Whole Wheat Bread

FIBROUS CARBS

Green Leafy Lettuce (Green Leaf, Red, Leaf, Romaine)
Broccoli
Asparagus
String Beans
Okra
Spinach
Bell Peppers
Brussel Sprouts
Cauliflower
Cabbage
Celery
Cucumber
Eggplant
Green or Red Pepper
Onions
Pumpkin
Garlic
Tomatoes
Zucchini
HEALTHY FATS

Natural Peanut Butter
Olive Oil or Safflower Oil
Nuts (peanuts, almonds)
Flaxseed Oil

BEVARAGES

Crystal Light
Green Tea
Other Tea (without sugar)
Coffee (without sugar)

but only follow that if you are a active person with weight lifting or cardio..if not it may be to many carbs..if your lazy and dont do nothing try a 45 35 20

hayez said:
but only follow that if you are a active person with weight lifting or cardio..if not it may be to many carbs..if your lazy and dont do nothing try a 45 35 20



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works like shit for me

all the ephedra free shit is garbage.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif

Fiddy_Ryder said:
all the ephedra free shit is garbage.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif



Uh huh http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Fiddy,take a ride to TJ and get the good stuff babe http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

oldgixxer said:

Fiddy_Ryder said:
all the ephedra free shit is garbage.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif



Uh huh http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Fiddy,take a ride to TJ and get the good stuff babe http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



i might if could ever put on anyh fukkin weight http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif