: bike won't start
Fujiwara Takumi 12-22-2003, 05:04 AM The other day I was trying to take off the carbs so that i could clean them. When I was almost done, i was at the part where you have to stick the phillips screw driver in the holes to take off the carbs, i realized i didn't have a phillips that long, But during all this I was also playing with the throttle cables, the push and pull cables. I needed the bike later on the day, so I put everthing together again. It started fine the first time, i took it about a feet before it stalled and died. And it wouldn't start. I smelled gasoline, so i left it there figuring it would all just leak out the carbs. But the smell was there for an hr and gas started leakin on the ground. I opened it and the carbs were filled to the brim with gas, any one know how this coulda happened. Now I try to start the bike, all I hear is a click, I thought it was battery so i tried jump starting it, but all it would do is go click, the noise seems to be ocming from the batey. Anybody know what the problem. Thanks http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Riden420 12-22-2003, 05:14 AM I had the same thing happen to me, though not as fast as your describing it.
Mine was from a bad petcock, wich intern let gas leak out and fill up the carbs (starten with the left on, dont know why?) That could be it.
Also, did u hook all the hoses back up, and to the right spot. If u hooked the vacum line up wrong on the petcock, then that could be maken it pump more gas out. I dunno. It just seems weired that you would be worken on the carbs, and then somehow have the petcock go bad.
Did u take them apart at all, or did u not end up getten um off the bike.
Take off your main fuel hose and see if gas still comes out the tank(like slowly drains), if it does, bad petcock. If not, recheck all the vacum lines.
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ohh, and u might have to take the carbs out and suck some gas out of the head.
GSXR-Freak 12-22-2003, 07:40 AM I had this SAME thing happen to a R6 I was working on. You need to take the float bowls off and make sure that you dont have a stuck float. It happens sometimes when you tip the carbs on there side...
Then you need to find a way to get the gas out of the motor, and it should turn over ok. you might need to take the plugs out and turn the motor over to get the extra fuel out.
As said above, it could also be the petcock.
John
Fujiwara Takumi 12-22-2003, 08:43 AM I've cleaned the gas from the carbs, its all out now. Now there is an electrical problem. You know how when you turn the switch on the bike and you hear a little whining noses coming from the bike, my bike doesn't do that anymore. So the bike won't even try to start, it just goes "click" when you try to start it.
gixer19guy 12-22-2003, 10:27 AM cud be a shot in the dark but stick ur battery on charge, then if it starts check ur charging rate ;-)
GSXR-Freak 12-22-2003, 11:27 AM Did you make sure that you took the plugs out and then try to turn over the motor? If there is a cyl that is full of fuel, it WILL NOT turn over.
Check your fuel pump wires to make sure they are connected, and then check your fuses.
Also as said, check the battery charge.
John
Fujiwara Takumi 12-23-2003, 06:08 AM The mototr is no longer flooded. It is now electrical, I've checked the fuses and battery and their ok, usually when i turn the switch on right before i start it there is a winding noise that last about two or three seconds which shows that their is enough power to start the bike. Now the bike won't even try to start, it just goes "click" like it is the battery, but it isn't because i've checked it numerous times.
SeZoNE 12-24-2003, 04:13 AM Fujiwara Takumi said:
The mototr is no longer flooded. It is now electrical, I've checked the fuses and battery and their ok, usually when i turn the switch on right before i start it there is a winding noise that last about two or three seconds which shows that their is enough power to start the bike. Now the bike won't even try to start, it just goes "click" like it is the battery, but it isn't because i've checked it numerous times.
that whining noise is your fuel pump... the fact that its NOT whining leads me to believe that its a prob related to your fuel pump... maybe you hooked your lines back up wrong...
Riden420 12-24-2003, 04:17 AM ya check your connections, and vacum lines on the pump. U got to have something hooked up wrong, or backwards.
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Fujiwara Takumi 12-24-2003, 08:34 AM I've gotten my bike to start up now. It was the starter, i took it apart and took out the main sprocket and started it and saw it spin, so i figured that it was just stuck so i kept hitting it with a broomstick and starting it at the same time and now it is fine. Thanks guys.
FOOLAH 01-05-2004, 02:02 AM I'm having that same problem, my bike started 2 days ago but when I tried to start it yesterday it would click 1 time and thats it. it's not the battery, so could it be the starter?
99 suzuki gsx-r 750 01-05-2004, 04:24 AM FOOLAH said:
I'm having that same problem, my bike started 2 days ago but when I tried to start it yesterday it would click 1 time and thats it. it's not the battery, so could it be the starter?
it must be the start.. the teeth in the starter might be jammed or something.. use a metal stick or rod and have someone hit the starter at the same time as you are starting up the bike.. tell us what happens next..
FOOLAH 01-05-2004, 05:11 AM thanks alot I'll let you know tommorow..
Fujiwara Takumi 01-05-2004, 01:28 PM thats what was wrong with mine, i had jumper cables connected to my car, and my bro was hitting the starter with a broom stick, and i tried starting, and it just started. Its fine now, tell me how it goes....
gixxer97_750 01-05-2004, 02:12 PM I HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH MY 97 NOT WANTING TO START.IT DID THE SAME CLICK AND STOP.I TRIED EVERYTHING TESETED STARTER,PUSH STARTING,CHECK COILS,JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.I FOUND OUT LATER THAT THE FUEL COCK WAS BAD AND STAYING OPEN.LETTING GAS FLOOD THE CARBS AND CYLINDERS AND THE BIKE WAS HYDRO LOCKED.TAKE OUT THE SPARK PLUGS AND TRY TO START IT.IT WILL SHOOT GAS OUT OF THE PLUG TUBES IF IT IS HYDROED.DONT LET THE PLUG WIRES GROUND OUT WHILE DOING THIS AND DONT GET THEM MIXED UP.IF THIS SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM SEND ME A MESSAGE AND ILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO FIX IT.IT WILL COST ABOUT $100..I THINK..I DID MINE A FEW MONTHS AGO..I SPEND SO MUCH ON MY BIKE I CANT REMEBER EVERYTHING..
Riden420 01-05-2004, 05:57 PM 100$ for a new petcock??? damn, where u getten ur parts. mine was the same thing, got a new one for 40$.
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FOOLAH 01-05-2004, 10:49 PM I took the starter cover off and took out the main sprocket and push the ignition button and the starter motor was spinning but when I put the sprocket back in and try to start it I just get a hard click and thats it, need help ASAP.
Riden420 01-06-2004, 04:51 AM have u pulled the airbox and looked down in the carbs???
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FOOLAH 01-06-2004, 06:40 AM no haven't done that. what would I be looking for?
FOOLAH 01-06-2004, 07:29 AM Also could it be the starter clutch????
gixxer97_750 01-06-2004, 10:45 AM pull your plugs out and try to start.sounds like hydro lock.
Bostitch 01-06-2004, 10:58 AM The bike doesn't crank at all? Try and spin the motor by hand and see if you can. If you can normally then I think your starter might be going bad.
Riden420 01-06-2004, 11:13 AM well if u pull the airbox off, u can see if your carbs have been letten gas in, cause the engine to not be able to crank over, or hydro lock. Like i said above, it happend to me, and when i pulled the box, i could see gas had filled into the cylinder and all the way up to the top of the carb. I drained it all out, took the pulgs out, put rags over the holes to cath gas, and hit the starter some. Then plugs back in, and it started on up.
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Fujiwara Takumi 01-07-2004, 09:38 AM Like Riden420 said, check to see if the bike hydro locked by looking into the carbs to see if they are flooded because mine was flooded real bad, but once all the gas was leaked out, it still wouldn't start, it would just clicked so i banged on the starter until the gears fixed itself.
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