My 93 Wheels are needing new paint or powder coating, and since I really don't like the Swoop look, I decided to look getting some newer lighter wheels. Now my dilema is that I know most wheel manufactures make or made at one time a direct bolt on wheel for the WC bikes IE , PM made the chicanes, Marvic made some, marchesini you get the picture, I am curious if it would be cost effective to get a set of Chicane or try finding some Marvic wheels, or fit a set of newer GSXR wheels IE the 00 and up 750 wheels. ANy opinions...DAN, Duck......

Jim

I know where you can find a new old stock three spoke Marvic 5.5"x17" (white)for $250 (same as what I have)....... I also know where you can find a used newer style three spoke Marvic 6.25"x17" (Black) for $350.00 unfortunatly I have no idea where to find a matching front wheel to match them....... otherwise buy the new PM matched set that pops up on ebay every couple of weeks. If I were to spend alot of time on the streets I would tend to lean towards the PM's for their durability.

Theres a comparison article in this months Sport Rider on all the different wheels available......

i also have a front marchesini....red in color....i think it may have a flat spot in it somewhere...i need to check it out...don't think i'm gonna use it...you might need to get spacers for it to fit right...other than that let me know if you're interested....

msthtd said:
i also have a front marchesini....red in color....i think it may have a flat spot in it somewhere...i need to check it out...don't think i'm gonna use it...you might need to get spacers for it to fit right...other than that let me know if you're interested....



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Hey MSTHTD what is a 93 990? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I never heard of a 990 kit before..... theres a Wisco 771cc kit (71mm) a Cosworth 883cc kit (76mm) and a JE 907cc kit (77mm)..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Dan, what all does the 5.5 Marvic need? Wouldn't there be some clearance issues with the 6.25 Marvic what does this Marvic need IE Hubs sproket or will my stock stuff bolt right on?

msthtd
Got any pictures, what is your price?

Jim

GixxerRacer317 said:
I know where you can find a new old stock three spoke Marvic 5.5"x17" (white)for $250 (same as what I have)....... I also know where you can find a used newer style three spoke Marvic 6.25"x17" (Black) for $350.00 unfortunatly I have no idea where to find a matching front wheel to match them....... otherwise buy the new PM matched set that pops up on ebay every couple of weeks. If I were to spend alot of time on the streets I would tend to lean towards the PM's for their durability.

Theres a comparison article in this months Sport Rider on all the different wheels available......



Ok, I have seen the 250.0. wheel it looks pretty good but that guy never returned my emails...as for the 350.00 wheel... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I think I might just buy that and run mismatched wheels. I can't seem to let the wallet gnomes cough up the 1400 for these www.czusainc.com (http://www.czusainc.com)
-Karl

Do the SV 650 and our WC Gsxr's share the same rim dimensions?

KJ, the czusainc wheels are on sale
Anodized finish from US$999.00-
Ni-Cr Plate finish from US$1,299.00-

These anodized ones are sweet.
http://www.ss.iij4u.or.jp/~cz/stage2up.jpg
Jim

How much work will it take to make these fit?

Jim

6/7and 317
will take a picture of the wheel tomorrow...don't know about the price...let talk trade instead if possible

990 is a 750 top end with a rf 900 bottom end with the 990 piston kit that would run in the rf900...unless i've been mistaken.....one of the guys over here had that set up with a stretch and it was quick.....i put it together just for myself....just upgraded the swingarm and the suspension...but my mechanic told me it's gonna be a fun bike with the front end coming up alot if i don't be careful...i don't know about alot of people doing this setup around....but i know in canada all day long

msthtd said:
6/7and 317
will take a picture of the wheel tomorrow...don't know about the price...let talk trade instead if possible

990 is a 750 top end with a rf 900 bottom end with the 990 piston kit that would run in the rf900...unless i've been mistaken.....one of the guys over here had that set up with a stretch and it was quick.....i put it together just for myself....just upgraded the swingarm and the suspension...but my mechanic told me it's gonna be a fun bike with the front end coming up alot if i don't be careful...i don't know about alot of people doing this setup around....but i know in canada all day long



That should equate to a 907 or there abouts. Depending on the combustion chamber size. shit with right carbs and everything dialed on that Baby should make 145ish RWHP the the front end will like to see the sky.

BTW what kind of trade, all of my go fast goodies are either on the bike or will be real soon.

Jim

jim
believe me i have alot of stuff laying around to make another bike if i have or wanted to....little knick knack stuff...cause if you're like me and everyone else..you always have extras laying around just in case..if anything comes to mind let me know..don't know what its gonna cost to fix the wheel IF there are any problems with it and there's a bunch of cool peoples in this forum that i want to sell the item for a real good price and keep everyone happy..you know?...glenn

hey..
are you the same jim from florida that i bought a dyna 2000 and rear fender hugger from?...that was like earlier this year....just wanted to know

That would be me. How did the Dyna work out for you>

Jim

msthtd said:
hey..
are you the same jim from florida that i bought a dyna 2000 and rear fender hugger from?...that was like earlier this year....just wanted to know




talk about a small world..lmfao

if you've been following up on my posts....haven't had the opportunity to start the motor yet.....missing exhaust flanges for my duplex exhaust...haven't put in the fcr's yet....and that's the only things i need done to fire her up....what a coincidence huh?

Sorry to jump in, But will 02 gsxr1000 wheels fit the 750.
There are some available here and would probably make a great addition.

thenek said:
Sorry to jump in, But will 02 gsxr1000 wheels fit the 750.
There are some available here and would probably make a great addition.



Anything is possible with enough patience/time/money...

...but that would not be easily-done.

i agree with cat....the y2k models are murder when it comes down to mods for the old skools....up to 99 is not that bad...when you start talkin 2000 up it's a whole different beast

93GIXXER-6/7 said:
How much work will it take to make these fit?

Jim



Jim, not a lot of work to make them fit, the CZ wheels that is, just buy a set for the w/c 1100 and they will bolt right up...*sigh* if only I had the extra cash to drop on rims....
-Karl

Here's my $ .02. I have street PM's, and if I didn't pay a ridiculously low amount for them, I wouldn't have bothered. They are not all that light (maybe 3-4 lbs/wheel lighter.) and it bugs me that you can't really clean between the spokes. The polished finish demands a once per year polish off the bike. In addition, support from PM for sprockets, etc really sucks.
Buuuuut, my goals for this project are similar to Dan's- create a replica of the hairy monster FUSA bikes from the mid '90's that I can ride on trackdays, with a little racing, and maybe a few Sunday mornings thrown in. For this purpose, PM's are hard to beat.

The only other correct historical thing to do would be vintage mags- like Dan. PM's are just easier to find. The two ways to do vintage mags are find good condition old stuff or find new ones that were also in production back then.

I've seen Kevin Schwantz's 907 that he had built after Suzuki gave him a '93 750 and it's got 5 spoke Marchesini's off his GP bike. This style wheel is still in production- you'd just have to figure out spacers and bearings.

To me, nothing beats that "holy sh$%&U" feeling you get the first time you pick up a mag wheel and realize how much lighter they are.

Finally, let's not fool ourselves- these are old bikes. They are starting to look a little undignified, IMHO, when they are radically updated- Kinda like a 90 year old lady with jet-black hair. They will never be a new bike, no matter how many cool parts we put on them. Let's help them age gracefully.

In my experience, wheels from another year bike are more hassle than aftermarket wheels for almost no gain. The only time I would do those is if I had an old oiler on bias ply technology and need to upgrade to radials cheaply.

HTH!

duckboy said:
I've seen Kevin Schwantz's 907 that he had built after Suzuki gave him a '93 750 and it's got 5 spoke Marchesini's off his GP bike. This style wheel is still in production- you'd just have to figure out spacers and bearings.



So where did you see the Schwantz 907? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I wanna see...... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif


duckboy said:
Finally, let's not fool ourselves- these are old bikes. They are starting to look a little undignified, IMHO, when they are radically updated- Kinda like a 90 year old lady with jet-black hair. They will never be a new bike, no matter how many cool parts we put on them. Let's help them age gracefully.



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif Ha ha ha.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Yeah I cringe anytime I see newer style bodywork on an old watercooled bike...... Hell in a way I really dislike the AirTech SRAD tail on my bike but hell EBSCO raced the bike like this in 96 so for now it's staying on there....... I may eventually buy the Yoshimura replica race tail and paint it to match the 95 paint scheme but thats something that I'm not going to loose any sleep over at this time.

GixxerRacer317 said:

duckboy said:
I've seen Kevin Schwantz's 907 that he had built after Suzuki gave him a '93 750 and it's got 5 spoke Marchesini's off his GP bike. This style wheel is still in production- you'd just have to figure out spacers and bearings.



So where did you see the Schwantz 907? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I wanna see...... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif


The head shop guy at Austin Sports Cycles built it. Says he knows Kevin pretty well. There's a pic of it up on the wall there. It's painted like a giant Texas flag. Get this- he says he used pistons and rods from an oiler 1100. He also said Kevin didn't like the bike much, so now it's just sitting in a shed full of unobtainium bikes, rusting away. He said Kevin didn't want to sell, last time he asked.


duckboy said:
Finally, let's not fool ourselves- these are old bikes. They are starting to look a little undignified, IMHO, when they are radically updated- Kinda like a 90 year old lady with jet-black hair. They will never be a new bike, no matter how many cool parts we put on them. Let's help them age gracefully.



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif Ha ha ha.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Yeah I cringe anytime I see newer style bodywork on an old watercooled bike...... Hell in a way I really dislike the AirTech SRAD tail on my bike but hell EBSCO raced the bike like this in 96 so for now it's staying on there....... I may eventually buy the Yoshimura replica race tail and paint it to match the 95 paint scheme but thats something that I'm not going to loose any sleep over at this time.



I have mixed feelings about the tail too, but that's the way they raced them from '96-'98 so I guess it's OK. I may get one too.

duckboy said:
I've seen Kevin Schwantz's 907 that he had built after Suzuki gave him a '93 750 and it's got 5 spoke Marchesini's off his GP bike. This style wheel is still in production- you'd just have to figure out spacers and bearings.



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/oogle.gifOk where did you see the Schwantz 907? I never knew he had one......

I replied the first time, but it's kind of buried in your quote up there.

duckboy said:
The head shop guy at Austin Sports Cycles built it. Says he knows Kevin pretty well. There's a pic of it up on the wall there. It's painted like a giant Texas flag. Get this- he says he used pistons and rods from an oiler 1100. He also said Kevin didn't like the bike much, so now it's just sitting in a shed full of unobtainium bikes, rusting away. He said Kevin didn't want to sell, last time he asked.



Aaaaaaaaaaah now that figures......... In the Roadracing World article comparing all year GSXR's Kevin liked the 93 GSXR 750 the least (he was riding basically a stock 93 version comparing it to other year GSXR's that were race preped and sorted). It's only fitting though since the Scwantz GP era sucked up most of the $$$ Suzuki had for it's racing budget.

GixxerRacer317 said:

duckboy said:
The head shop guy at Austin Sports Cycles built it. Says he knows Kevin pretty well. There's a pic of it up on the wall there. It's painted like a giant Texas flag. Get this- he says he used pistons and rods from an oiler 1100. He also said Kevin didn't like the bike much, so now it's just sitting in a shed full of unobtainium bikes, rusting away. He said Kevin didn't want to sell, last time he asked.



Aaaaaaaaaaah now that figures......... In the Roadracing World article comparing all year GSXR's Kevin liked the 93 GSXR 750 the least (he was riding basically a stock 93 version comparing it to other year GSXR's that were race preped and sorted). It's only fitting though since the Scwantz GP era sucked up most of the $$$ Suzuki had for it's racing budget.



I know the guy who loaned his stocker for that test, too. He said that Kevin signed the bike, and he sold it on ebay for 6 grand. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif He's got an R6 now, and I used to see him every time I went up Lime Creek Road. He still helps out as an instructor at the Ridesmart track days.

Another funny thing from that article- he said that Spies was all whiney and wanted this and that changed. The Schwantz just bounced the suspension up and down a few times and hopped on, riding faster laps and putting on a pretty good show- backing it in, riding out crossed up, etc.