Seriously. :dunno

Arlovski came out a little to anxious against Fedor.

I wouldn't bet any money against Fedor that's for sure.

Fedor's the man and he proved it yet again. He's going to smash Barnet next...After that it'd be a pretty good matchup if they can get him to fight Sergei Kharitonov or A. Overeem(if he doesn't go the UFC like rumored). There's also Giant Silva as a possibility down the road, but his chin is suspect along with some troubles with CSAC. Outside of the UFC, they're running out of top contenders for him at HWT.

I doubt he'll ever go to the UFC, so we'll probably never see a Lesnar, Mir, or Couture fight with him. But, who knows what'll happen in the future, I guess anything is possible with time. Right now as it stands, he's the best p4p fighter in the world IMO.

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For those that missed it...Rope a dope...Have you ever seen someone KO'd mid-air?

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For those that missed it...Rope a dope...Have you ever seen someone KO'd mid-air?

That gif is sick. I love how people say he lucked out. Look at that shit. You can actually see him process the entire thought and it ended in a perfectly placed punch. I love how people attempt to discount greatness to make themselves feel better about being normal. Yeah, Jordan just got lucky all those years too and Tiger Woods will be revealed as a sham any day now. :dissapointed

Off all the fighters out there, Overeem stands the best chance IMO.

If give the edge to Fedor, because I feel he has shown much better conditioning than Overeem in the past, and nobody has ever stopped Fedor.

But right now Overeem is looking very fierce.

That gif is sick. I love how people say he lucked out. Look at that shit. You can actually see him process the entire thought and it ended in a perfectly placed punch. I love how people attempt to discount greatness to make themselves feel better about being normal. Yeah, Jordan just got lucky all those years too and Tiger Woods will be revealed as a sham any day now. :dissapointed

agreed...perfectly placed punch IMO. Everyone else is just hating :dissapointed

Fedor exposed/showed a potential chink in his armor. He was losing up till that punch, when its a swingers game anyone can win.

Remember hes also rediculed for not fighting reputable fighters the past 4 years. josh Barnett is his next opponent and thats a shame

AA was doing good untill he thought he could charge fedor with a flying knee, he made a bad mistake, couture is too old to fight fedor know

My p4p goes like this

1)Fedor
2)GSP
3)Silva
4)BJ
5) jackson

Fedor exposed/showed a potential chink in his armor. He was losing up till that punch, when its a swingers game anyone can win.

Remember hes also rediculed for not fighting reputable fighters the past 4 years. josh Barnett is his next opponent and thats a shame

Tim Sylvia was UFC champ not all that long ago and Fedor made him look like a retarded school girl. I don't buy the 'he hasn't fought anyone' excuse either.

Tim Sylvia was UFC champ not all that long ago and Fedor made him look like a retarded school girl. I don't buy the 'he hasn't fought anyone' excuse either.

Exactly...It's annoying hearing that BS from Fedor haters...

FWIW he's only beaten a few former UFC Champs over years:

-AA
-T. Silvia
-Big Nog
-K. Randlman
-Coleman

And some other no-namers:

-Lindland
-Hunt
-Crocop
-Babalu
-Shilt
-Fujita

Haven't heard of any of those guys... :shifty

Tim Sylvia was UFC champ not all that long ago and Fedor made him look like a retarded school girl. I don't buy the 'he hasn't fought anyone' excuse either.

Tim Sylvia is a very poor excuse for a fighter. If you viewed any of his fights you would have clearly seen that he will never be ranked with the top 15 heavyweights in the world.

AA was doing good untill he thought he could charge fedor with a flying knee, he made a bad mistake, couture is too old to fight fedor know

My p4p goes like this

1)Fedor
2)GSP
3)Silva
4)BJ
5) jackson

Jackson as in Rampage?? Really? :blink

I would probably put Silva ahead of GSP personally. They're both great but GSP has had some closer fights with lesser fighters IMO than Silvia. Anderson Silva is an animal and I don't know who can beat him right now either. I would LOVE to see an Anderson Silva v Fedor fight... that would put butts in the seats and sell some PPV for sure.

Exactly...It's annoying hearing that BS from Fedor haters...

FWIW he's only beaten a few former UFC Champs over years:

-AA
-T. Silvia
-Big Nog
-K. Randlman
-Coleman

And some other no-namers:

-Lindland
-Hunt
-Crocop
-Babalu
-Shilt
-Fujita

Haven't heard of any of those guys... :shifty

Wow, Fedor is a household name now to all these bandwagon jumping MMA posers.

Yes, he's a great fighter, Yes, he has a lot of wins.

However how many of those people are legit heavtweights???? how many are past there prime???? WHEN HAS FEDOR FOUGHT A TOP 5 HEAVYWEIGHT????

IF you legitamtly thought he looked good in that last fight with AA you are delusional. His hands wer down he didnt connect or throw that many punches.

True a win is a win.......but his next opponent is a bigger joke.

The Fedor of Pride was unstopable the Fedor of Affliction is not the same guy. He might as well be Kimbo Slice with all the "cans" he's fighting.

AA was doing good untill he thought he could charge fedor with a flying knee, he made a bad mistake, couture is too old to fight fedor know

My p4p goes like this

1)Fedor
2)GSP
3)Silva
4)BJ
5) jackson

you must be new. :dissapointed

Tim Sylvia is a very poor excuse for a fighter. If you viewed any of his fights you would have clearly seen that he will never be ranked with the top 15 heavyweights in the world.

I agree with that statement to an extent but are you saying that the UFC is a joke and all the fighters are a joke too? Remember, he didn't just win one fight to get a shot at the title. I agree that the title fight itself didn't prove much and have never really like Tim Sylvia but I'm not going to completely discredit him based on that the way you have. The funny thing is I will even go as far to say that Tim Sylvia is a better fighter now then he was when he won the title & don't think those that really thought about it would disagree with that statement. Regardless of the details he was a title holder for the UFC not long ago and the fight between him and Fedor (Fedor's last fight) wasn't even questionable. Fedor won every single aspect of that fight and made him look stupid. Now, had it been close and he still pulled it out we would be having a discussion but he did everything he needed to do and dictated the fight and impossed his will on a MUCH larger ex-title holder of the UFC. Yet some still want to discredit that.

I agree with that statement to an extent but are you saying that the UFC is a joke and all the fighters are a joke too? Remember, he didn't just win one fight to get a shot at the title. I agree that the title fight itself didn't prove much and have never really like Tim Sylvia but I'm not going to completely discredit him based on that the way you have. The funny thing is I will even go as far to say that Tim Sylvia is a better fighter now then he was when he won the title & don't think those that really thought about it would disagree with that statement. Regardless of the details he was a title holder for the UFC not long ago and the fight between him and Fedor (Fedor's last fight) wasn't even questionable. Fedor won every single aspect of that fight and made him look stupid. Now, had it been close and he still pulled it out we would be having a discussion but he did everything he needed to do and dictated the fight and impossed his will on a MUCH larger ex-title holder of the UFC. Yet some still want to discredit that.

Of course he killed Tim Sylvia, Hes slow and has no ground game....sounds just like the previous opponent Hong Man Choi. Fedor is def a #1 Heavy weight. ....so why not have him fight TOP heavyweights. AA got booted from the UFC for bad performances and losses, Tim Sylvia got booted for all his losses. Affliction is just picking up UFC and Pride Rejects, and it showed this past weekend. Its the same predicament Anderson Silva is in there is no more competition left. BUT AS has fought many of the best fighters in his clas the past two years

Lets see Fedor against Lesnar...yeah a lot of people hate his WWE past,arragant cocky attitude but he's fast and can cause damage, or Gabriel Gonzaga, whom has excellent striking and BJJ, or Shane Carwin he's undefeated. Maybe Overeem.

Wow, Fedor is a household name now to all these bandwagon jumping MMA posers.

Yes, he's a great fighter, Yes, he has a lot of wins.

However how many of those people are legit heavtweights???? how many are past there prime???? WHEN HAS FEDOR FOUGHT A TOP 5 HEAVYWEIGHT????

IF you legitamtly thought he looked good in that last fight with AA you are delusional. His hands wer down he didnt connect or throw that many punches.

True a win is a win.......but his next opponent is a bigger joke.

The Fedor of Pride was unstopable the Fedor of Affliction is not the same guy. He might as well be Kimbo Slice with all the "cans" he's fighting.

MMAweekly's World Heavyweight Rankings:
HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko

2. Josh Barnett

3. Frank Mir

4. Andrei Arlovski

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

6. Randy Couture

7. Tim Sylvia

8. Gabriel Gonzaga

9. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic

10. Brock Lesnar

MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings last updated on January 21, 2009

He's beat two of the Top 5 on that list...Barnett is ranked #2, so I guess JB is not that much of joke...Not to mention FE's beaten the #7 and #9 on the list too...Kinda fucks up your argument a little...

I never said he looked like the most impressive fighter I've ever seen in the 3 minutes we watched before he KO'd AA. So, you're also judging him based on only 3 minutes of fight, which doesn't say a whole lot. So, it's kinda like saying Fedor was losing before he won and therefore Fedor isn't that good! No shit, he's human? He can make mistakes? No... By that logic we could also point out that he was also losing to CroCop, Hong Man Choi, and Randleman, before he WON. It makes not sense to try and detract from his victory. He's a class act and a great ambassador for the sport.

The point is that Fedor finds a way to win regardless of how the fight is going, that's what's impressive. AA is a great fighter, but got KO'd..end of story.

And comparing Fedor to Kimbo says much about your MMA acumen. That's some funny shit right there...


At the end of the night this is all that really matters:
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MMAweekly's World Heavyweight Rankings:
HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko

2. Josh Barnett

3. Frank Mir

4. Andrei Arlovski

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

6. Randy Couture

7. Tim Sylvia

8. Gabriel Gonzaga

9. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic

10. Brock Lesnar

MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings last updated on January 21, 2009

He's beat two of the Top 5 on that list...Barnett is ranked #2, so I guess JB is not that much of joke...Not to mention FE's beaten the #7 and #9 on the list too...Kinda fucks up your argument a little...

I never said he looked like the most impressive fighter I've ever seen in the 3 minutes we watched before he KO'd AA. So, you're also judging him based on only 3 minutes of fight, which doesn't say a whole lot. So, it's kinda like saying Fedor was losing before he won and therefore Fedor isn't that good! No shit, he's human? He can make mistakes? No... By that logic we could also point out that he was also losing to CroCop, Hong Man Choi, and Randleman, before he WON. It makes not sense to try and detract from his victory. He's a class act and a great ambassador for the sport.

The point is that Fedor finds a way to win regardless of how the fight is going, that's what's impressive. AA is a great fighter, but got KO'd..end of story.

And comparing Fedor to Kimbo says much about your MMA acumen. That's some funny shit right there...


At the end of the night this is all that really matters:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r289/TruthisAlive/andhewalksaway.jpg

:cheers

Pretty much sums it all up right there.

Wow, Fedor is a household name now to all these bandwagon jumping MMA posers. FWIW, I've been a fan of FE since seeing him kimora Randleman in 2004 after having this happen....No poser here, just a big fan of the sport as I've watched some personal friends transition into MMA from collegiate wrestling and be successful...Never said I was a tough guy mma fighter or pretend to be, but have seen friends give up everything for the sport and have an idea of how hard these guys work and how much they sacrifice by entering the ring/cage...

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Yea what the hell was AA thinking when he decided to fly at fedor when fedor was not even hurt... very hasty:nono. AA was winning that fight but he made a mistake. Whoever beats fedor is going to have to execute a PERFECT fight with no mistakes. I'll give it to fedor that he has fought some tough guys..but the true test these days is the UFC.. thats where the best of the best are.

Tim Sylvia is a very poor excuse for a fighter.

LOL, say that to his face.

The guy is elite, one of the best in the world. If you trained for the next 10 years he would still smash your face in less than 30 seconds.

Show some respect.

LOL, say that to his face.

The guy is elite, one of the best in the world. If you trained for the next 10 years he would still smash your face in less than 30 seconds.

Show some respect.

Stop sucking tims dick you faggot fuck. He sux, I could defeat him with no training. You obviously dont watch MMA Fights.

Yea what the hell was AA thinking when he decided to fly at fedor when fedor was not even hurt... very hasty:nono. AA was winning that fight but he made a mistake. Whoever beats fedor is going to have to execute a PERFECT fight with no mistakes. I'll give it to fedor that he has fought some tough guys..but the true test these days is the UFC.. thats where the best of the best are.

excactly, this guy knows what he's talking about.

MMAweekly's World Heavyweight Rankings:
HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko

2. Josh Barnett

3. Frank Mir

4. Andrei Arlovski

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

6. Randy Couture

7. Tim Sylvia

8. Gabriel Gonzaga

9. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic

10. Brock Lesnar

MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings last updated on January 21, 2009

He's beat two of the Top 5 on that list...Barnett is ranked #2, so I guess JB is not that much of joke...Not to mention FE's beaten the #7 and #9 on the list too...Kinda fucks up your argument a little...

I never said he looked like the most impressive fighter I've ever seen in the 3 minutes we watched before he KO'd AA. So, you're also judging him based on only 3 minutes of fight, which doesn't say a whole lot. So, it's kinda like saying Fedor was losing before he won and therefore ((he was losing the fight before he won, did you not see AA land the fastrer punches, and Fedor back off ??))Fedor isn't that good! Fedor is great, why not give hime better compettition?? No shit, he's human? He can make mistakes? No... By that logic we could also point out that he was also losing to CroCop, Hong Man Choi, and Randleman, before he WON. It makes not sense to try and detract from his victory. He's a class act and a great ambassador for the sport. Randleman and crocop are both reputable fighters, they were previous to aug of 05

The point is that Fedor finds a way to win regardless of how the fight is going, that's what's impressive. AA is a great fighter, but got KO'd..end of story.

And comparing Fedor to Kimbo says much about your MMA acumen. That's some funny shit right there...


At the end of the night this is all that really matters:
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I'll just post this from the other thread i replied to. I'll say it again...Fedor is a great fighter, but has NOT fought any reputable fighters since 2005.

Maybe I'm giving AA less credit then he deserves, but he did lose twice to Tim Sylvia whom I feel IMO is a joke. His last 6 fights were either won by decision or a loss. Thats why i dont give Fedor Credability for that fight. I knew the second they made that fight Affliction and M1 knew Tim was going to be the fall guy to make Fedor a household name. UFC was short on heavyweights after Frank Mir broke his leg. So that made a clear path for Tim to become Champ.

Now we have Hong man Choi a chinese freak show, has lost 5 of his last eight, and the fights he's won were by nobodies or wash ups. He's like Bob Sapp....more size than skill.


Prior to that Matt Lindland whom is a 185 er.... Fedor has the advantage being a heavyweight all the time.

Prior to that Mark Hunt beat some nobodies his last four fights were all losses.

Prior to that Mark Coleman...way past his prime and already lost to Fedor 2 years prior.

Prior to that Zuluzinho lost 5 of his last 7, another freakshow with no skill.

August of 2005 Mirko Crocop... IMO this is when that last reputable fight for Fedor occured.

AA has been the closest match up for him the past 3+ years. I think AA is a good fighter, he was one of my faves when he was champ. fedor is great too He was Sambo champ for so many years till this past year when he recieved 3rd place, thus showing he is only human, but unless Affliction pics up some more fighters ...whats the point??? its like matching anyproduction car against a veyron in a top speed shootout. Yeah he's fighting Barnett next, but did you see his last fight?!?!? he couldnt finish a guy in full guard...im sorry i take that back, the refs didnt call it when they should have, but he did mount him 3 or 4 times in full guard and looked tired and lazy.

As for people that can defeat him, I would say Gonzaga or Lesnar (after we see what he does to Mir). BTW I'm routing for Mir to win again.

We have to remember that MMA is becoming the future of entertainment and Elite XC was going to exploit the backyard brawler Kimbo SLice for everything he was worth, which wasnt much. Affliction/UFC are both businesses, that can easily be corrupted, as Seth Petrezulli originally stated after his win against Kimbo...well Elite XC is no more....Now we have Affliction combining with M1 Global, and I fear the same COULD happen again. Fedor (their money maker) is a Great Sambo champ and MMA fighter, and I wont discredit any of his fights. But the UFC has some great contenders for him and I would like to see fedor while in his prime fight some of them. Couture just went through some surgery and wont be fighting for awhile so that match will probably never happen, and the clock is not in Randys favor.

I'm not comparing kimbo to fedor's skill, because Kimbo has none at all. I'm just stating how these businesses are run...and I would hate to see Fedor fight lesser skilled opponenets just to sell a card.

Stop sucking tims dick you faggot fuck. He sux, I could defeat him with no training. You obviously dont watch MMA Fights.

Dude, cant we have a MMA discussion without you blabbing about sucking cocks?

Try and your homosexual fantasies to yourself.

Who, according to you is a reputable MMA heavyweight fighter anyway? It sounds like you think all the heavyweights are lousy - start naming some that you think are good.

As for people that can defeat him, I would say Gonzaga or Lesnar

LOL, Gonzaga wouldent make it out of the first round. AA would smash him also.

Lesnar has a chance with his physical ability, but would easily lose 8 out of 10 matches with Fedor.

Sherdog's last Heavyweight rankings from Jan 07 2009
1. Fedor
2. Andrei
3. Josh Barnett
4. Frank Mir
5. Nogueira
6. Brock Lesnar
7. randy Couture
8. Tim Sylvia
9. Ben Rothwell
10. Alistair Overeem
Heavyweight IMO is just a class with not many very good fighters right now.

LOL, Gonzaga wouldent make it out of the first round. AA would smash him also.

Lesnar has a chance with his physical ability, but would easily lose 8 out of 10 matches with Fedor.

Now I know I'm dealing with some rookie poser troll, whom knows absolutely nothing about MMA.

You jumped on the Fedor bandwagon by hearing about him and probably watched his highlight vid on youtube prior to this recent fight, just so you can act like you know what your talking about.

You consider Tim Sylvia a reputable champ because he held the belt for a short period in the UFC. when the, at the time the heavyweight class was not very competitive. AA and Tim were probably the only top 2. You can judge the rankings according to Sherdog, or you could make your own judjment by actually viewing the fights. However thats how posers like yourself like to retort.

Before you reply, watch the Fedor AA fight again, and try not to fap to your boy. He looked bad, prior to his lucky punch...thats right lucky, its a swingers game anyone could have connected. AA looked far better in that match. Now do your homework and watch Gonzaga fights you ignorant fuck and tell me why he possibly couldnt beat Fedor.

Before you reply, watch the Fedor AA fight again, and try not to fap to your boy. He looked bad, prior to his lucky punch...thats right lucky, its a swingers game anyone could have connected. AA looked far better in that match. Now do your homework and watch Gonzaga fights you ignorant fuck and tell me why he possibly couldnt beat Fedor.

Easy on the insults! It shows you are weak and cant debate with simply your mind.

As far as Gonzaga - who did he beat except a deflated CroCop? He got smashed by Randy, beaten by Wedum - both are on the decline. Id take Silvia over Gonzaga in a minute, along with most everyone in the top 10 rankings.

BTW, Im 37 and have been watching and participating in MMA likely since before you were born. I have a different opinion than you but Im well versed in the sport.

Easy on the insults! It shows you are weak and cant debate with simply your mind.

As far as Gonzaga - who did he beat except a deflated CroCop? He got smashed by Randy, beaten by Wedum - both are on the decline. Id take Silvia over Gonzaga in a minute, along with most everyone in the top 10 rankings.

BTW, Im 37 and have been watching and participating in MMA likely since before you were born. I have a different opinion than you but Im well versed in the sport.

Sorry for the insults but i get easily irritated by ignorance. You compare Tim to Gabrial Gonzaga....Well where is Tim???? Tim had the championship belt handed to him. The ONLY advantage he has his reach. His strikes are not that impressive, is one of the most prdictable fighters due to leading with the same foot and stance, and he has NO ground game...NONE. Gonzaga is def on the rise, very multi skilled and has won fights by submission or KO, not like the king of boring fights Tim the Necropheliac Silvia whom mostly wins by unanimous decision. You keep referring back to your little gay chart...like i said before you need to make better observations of your own.

Brock Lesnar is ranked 10 after only 4 MMA fights, one in which he lost. The reason why his ranking went so high is because he beat Randy Couture. MMA rankings are not as easily done as most other sports because its not only done by winning record but who you beat, and there ranking, which always isnt fair.

Shane Carwin is still undefeated after 10 fights 5 KO's and 5 subs, why isnt he ranked #2 behind Fedor??? He didnt fight anyone reputable, so it nulls his perfect 10-0. the rankings are a poor way to make your point. Although I do put Fedor at the top. the rest of that list I could def make changes to.

Dana Whites words about Tim

“But we all have to thank him for getting rid of Tim Sylvia. He’d been stinking out the joint the last couple of years and Fedor did everyone a favor by beating him so easily and getting rid of him.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnCbzqIVG9zOARQsbfuSHec9Eo14?slug=ki-fedor081308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Sorry for the insults but i get easily irritated by ignorance. You compare Tim to Gabrial Gonzaga....Well where is Tim???? Tim had the championship belt handed to him. The ONLY advantage he has his reach. His strikes are not that impressive, is one of the most prdictable fighters due to leading with the same foot and stance, and he has NO ground game...NONE. Gonzaga is def on the rise, very multi skilled and has won fights by submission or KO, not like the king of boring fights Tim the Necropheliac Silvia whom mostly wins by unanimous decision. You keep referring back to your little gay chart...like i said before you need to make better observations of your own.


Well my observations are that Tim is very tall, hard to take down, throws very good strait punches, with good velocity and power. He has a solid clinch with good knees. He also has no fear.

He isnt exactly the most fluid skilled athlete, I will give you that, but his height and style pose huge matchup problems for just about everybody smaller than him.

Im not saying he is more skilled than Gonzaga, just that Gonzaga is going to have a hell of a time getting inside, and even if he does, he is going to have lots of trouble taking Silvia down.

My guess is Gonzaga is going to have a hard time coming up with a gameplan. Really his best option is to try and catch Silvia cold at the beginning of the fight when he seems most vulnerable. Otherwise he is in for a steady diet of strait punches and knees from the clinch before he has any hope of winning by submission.

Your boy Gonzaga, who you think could beat Fedor just got KTFO last night by Carwin. I think you need to revisit his fights, he isnt that great.

Lol

Your boy Gonzaga, who you think could beat Fedor just got KTFO last night by Carwin. I think you need to revisit his fights, he isnt that great.

I submit to your infinite wisdom..Tim Sylvia and Fedor are the greatest pugilists that ever graced the ring, they are unstopable gods with no flaws, and there losses (Sylvia) or fighting mistakes (Fedor) are well planned disguises to make us think they are mortal. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

BTW I ranked highly both Carwin and Gonzaga...funny you mentioned how Gonzaga lost and not about how Carwin won. So i guess i have no credibility there, your selective negativty just reveals your ignorance. Shane Carwin is still undefeated...So why isnt he Numero Uno???

I never said Tim Silvia was the greatest, you are just putting words in my mouth BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

Shane Carwin isnt number one because he hasnt beaten anyone who is considered elite. You boy Gonzaga isnt considered top 5 - hasnt really beaten anybody except for a shell shocked CroCop who was recovering from steroid addiction at the time, so why should Carwin all the sudden be #1 for beating him?

That being said, Id like to see Carwin vs T.Silvia, I think that would be a competitive fight. They are both somewhere in the top 10 IMO, borderline top 5.

I never said Tim Silvia was the greatest, you are just putting words in my mouth BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

Shane Carwin isnt number one because he hasnt beaten anyone who is considered elite. You boy Gonzaga isnt considered top 5 - hasnt really beaten anybody except for a shell shocked CroCop who was recovering from steroid addiction at the time, so why should Carwin all the sudden be #1 for beating him?

That being said, Id like to see Carwin vs T.Silvia, I think that would be a competitive fight. They are both somewhere in the top 10 IMO, borderline top 5.

From a strickers stand point it would be a good match to watch. I'm eager to see Carwin against Lesnar, they are both giants and have wrestling background.

Heavyweight has never been a class with the best fighters. When fighters like Cabbage carerra are fighting in the UFC. Its getting better thats for sure. FE is the man! He has never been "beaten" He has beat every fighter thrown at him. He has beaten Champs and he has beaten men who have beaten champs. Leznar is looking good but he has a long way to becoming the best. You cant just walk in with a few fights and become the best. He beat randy but I bet if they fought again randy would win it. Lezanr is awesome and he will be champ one day but not one day soon. It only takes on punch though. Overeem has a chance though He is a great striker but his ground game wouldnt compare to FEs. Overeem hasnt fought that many quality fighters though.

Lesnars size alone is a mjor obsticle for any pro heavyweight....plus another advantage is his collegiate wrestling backgound. As you might have seen Fedor's last two fights were stand up, not one attempt was made to put him on his back. Lesnar IS new, but IMO he would be a great and reputable challenge for "The Last Emporer" As for Overeem...where is he now??