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: CANT get tripple tree off.


gottspeed
11-24-2003, 05:48 AM
Ok, this is a follow up to a recent post,

My top tripple clamp is siezed on to my steering stem.

Ive loosened every bolt I can see, and removed everything in the way.

I then hung the bike by the clamp from the rafters in the garage with a come-along about an inch off the ground and bashed the steering stem with a block and hammer while I sat on it.

Then, I hit er with a propane torch feathering the heat on there to try and break the corrosion or expand the clamp somewhat, but I only ended up melting the ignition a little bit because the alum. sucks the heat right out of there.

Ive been applying WD40 every day for ages and when I hung the bike it only seemed to rock the back of the clamp back down onto the notched washer (i managed to pop it up a bit with a flat head before)

Im at a bloody loss, how can I get this friggin thing off so I can get to work on my handle bars?

flaco
11-24-2003, 06:12 AM
Maybe if you post a pic we can see if there is anything missing??

Bobbychet
11-24-2003, 06:17 AM
Bummer! sounds like you might have to do some dremeling to get that sucker off! and then finding a new triple. Sounds like the triples too far gone now.

msthtd
11-24-2003, 06:24 AM
i just had my top tripple polished recently.....it took me about 10 mins to maneuver myself around to get those small 8mm bolts from underneath the clamp with a small extension. so you're saying that you got all the nuts off from underneath and away from the instrument cluster correct? so it's actually moving but it's stuck.....where are you spraying the wd40? and try looking to see if your forks could be bent from the top. if it is moving and you're working it up and down....you willl see grooves apparently...because if you think about it....all the bolts are off right?.....take a rubber mallet and work both sides evenly upward...it should come off...unless something is bent or there is rust ...hope this helps

Bobbychet
11-24-2003, 06:43 AM
Sounds like he's having that problem what's that shit called?
Electrolosis or somthing like that when disimular metals come in contact with each other
and get that corrosive bonding material on them.

msthtd
11-24-2003, 06:51 AM
you're probably right bobby....if he loosened the bolts on either side for the forks and the four bolts underneath that connect the gauge cluster.....it should come off...unless he wasn't told that the bike might have been sitting under the weather for some time or the forks are slightly bent...thats weird http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

RudeBwoy
11-24-2003, 07:45 AM
mine was on there like a bitch too, keep workin it with the rubber mallet, I had an after thought of a steering wheel puller---might work.

utp216
11-24-2003, 08:52 AM
If you can keep the bike (front) off the ground drop out the fork tubes. They you are only working with the lower clamp, streering stem and the upper tree that you are trying to remove. You might be able to hold the lower triple in place and try to "turn" the upper off the stem. I've done that before, and it worked. You can do this or engage the streering lock and work on the lower tree. Let us know the results.

Jason

gottspeed
11-24-2003, 11:13 AM
utp216 said:

If you can keep the bike (front) off the ground drop out the fork tubes. They you are only working with the lower clamp, streering stem and the upper tree that you are trying to remove. You might be able to hold the lower triple in place and try to "turn" the upper off the stem. I've done that before, and it worked. You can do this or engage the streering lock and work on the lower tree. Let us know the results.

Jason




i forgot to mention that everything is taken off the bike except for the left handlebar. the right is freely swinging.

so disconnect the brakes and drop the wheel assembley down and off?

will I be unscrewing the clamp from the stem? it looks like the clearance is so close, my friend declared it had to be pressed on at the factory. obviously not, but do those little rubber pentagons have to come off the bottom as well? should I leave the ignition attached, how would manuvering the bottom tree help?

i appriciate the help!

FastCat
11-24-2003, 02:55 PM
utp216 said:

If you can keep the bike (front) off the ground drop out the fork tubes. They you are only working with the lower clamp, streering stem and the upper tree that you are trying to remove. You might be able to hold the lower triple in place and try to "turn" the upper off the stem. I've done that before, and it worked. You can do this or engage the streering lock and work on the lower tree. Let us know the results.

Jason




Be careful with the steering-lock if you use that... they are not difficult to break/bend/otherwise muck-up.

...and I stand by what I suggested in the other thread... I'd have had a flywheel-puller on that thing a long time ago.

...note that you DO have to loosen the clamp on the clip-on even if you don't plan on removing it...

gottspeed
11-25-2003, 12:58 AM
I do have a flywheel puller but its an old honda one threaded on the outside. Arent they all?

FastCat
11-25-2003, 02:14 AM
gottspeed said:

I do have a flywheel puller but its an old honda one threaded on the outside. Arent they all?



No - that's not the type that I was thinking of. ...this is what I was picturing in my imagination:

http://www.trainweb.org/girr/tips/tips5/gear_puller.jpg

...just put the center-bolt over the steering-stem (with a nut or something there to keep from spreading it or otherwise damaging the threads) and the "legs" would grab the front and back edges of the `tree... That's how I was picturing it...

gottspeed
11-25-2003, 03:37 AM
Excellent, thank you very much for the help.

Have you made this work before? also, do you think it will damage the threads on the iron bar by me forcing the tree over it with that tool you pictured?

FastCat
11-25-2003, 04:09 AM
I've never had a triple that wouldn't come off with a rubber-mallet and a little patience... and if I were going to use the gear-puller-thingie, I'd use it with the stem-nut in-place (but with clearance for the `tree to move up) to avoid damaging the stem... the nuts are pretty easy to replace and I think that pro-bolt has some cool-lookin' anodized aluminum ones. ...I'm pretty sure that my method will destroy the nut to the point that you'd need to replace it, but I'm also sure that it's a lot easier to replace that nut than the stem.

gottspeed
11-25-2003, 11:50 PM
my bike is too heavy to leave suspended from the garage rafters indefinately so if i get stuck with the fork tubes out im in a bind considering there isnt anything to rest the bike on around here.

i also need new front rubber and two new intake boots so i think im just going to get off my ass and find a job, and have them put an hours labor into taking the tree off, putting the new bar on, and then setting the tree back in place perhaps machined a little bit, and then they can mount the rubber.

that way it wont be more than an hours labor and i can put er back together again. plus, then theyre accountable for any parts they break. The fork tubes, steering stem and tree are far too valuable for me to 'learn' on. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Thanks so much for the tips everybody http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

RudeBwoy
11-26-2003, 10:22 AM
I'm too lazy too read, but if you haven't dropped the front rim and the forks, do that, make sure the tanks out the way, and get someone to hold the lower while you bang the upper. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/burnout.gif