well just got my first bike about 2 months ago. 1993 gsxr750wp.never got to really ride it. to make a long story short im rebuilding the engine. now i found carbs for 250 and the guy said they are a "bolt and run". and i found a place to do my head for 300.00 (vavle job). i dont think i need new pistons so im getting wisco rings for 27 a set. so what else do i need? i have no clue what or how bike engines work. where do i get timming chain? cam? and or what ever else i need. im now looking to spend alot of money just get it done cheap. oh i also need new spark plug wires? i pulled the end off one? where do i find these?

Dude here in the classifieds and e-bay and Ron Ayers and etc etc http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

The spark-plug cap can be "screwed" back onto the wire... if you look down inside where the wire went, you'll see what looks like a sheet-metal screw and the wire just screws down on to that.

As for the rest of it, my god, what was wrong with it? I mean, you say "rebuilt" but that doesn't usually mean replacing every SINGLE part inside the engine...

...and I know it'd be a step down in power and everything, but I know where you can get a complete `93 GSXR-600 engine - cheap. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

If your engine ran fine then when you had it and it broke and the whole engine needs to be overhauled, you oil starved it.

Otherwise, you bought a bike on the brink of destruction on every front, i bet your transmission is ready to go too.

My point is, your engine was B A G G E D. OR, you ran it without oil, ha ha.

Heed my words brother, I recently went through something much like you that would have cost me a shit load more if I didnt know the ins and outs of engines.

It could be something much more simple if it ran great before the problem started and you didnt do anything to break it.

Take it to another mechanic voicing the fact that the previoius mech seemed to glorify the disaster a bit much.

FastCat said:

The spark-plug cap can be "screwed" back onto the wire... if you look down inside where the wire went, you'll see what looks like a sheet-metal screw and the wire just screws down on to that.

As for the rest of it, my god, what was wrong with it? I mean, you say "rebuilt" but that doesn't usually mean replacing every SINGLE part inside the engine...

...and I know it'd be a step down in power and everything, but I know where you can get a complete `93 GSXR-600 engine - cheap. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



how much do you want for it? does it run?

as for not running oil NO it had oil but after i drained it, it had more gas then oil in it. and as for the plug it was pulled off the boot, there is no fixing it. and it didnt run all that great when i bought it, people said that the carbs where messed up. and the timming was off because it didnt like to start in the first place.

Yes, there IS fixing it, unless you have some sort of super-special-fragile-bullhooey stuff instead of the OEM coils/wires/boots. ...or unless you're a stubborn moron who already knows everything, and therefore cannot learn new things.

The motor is at Bobbychet's shop, and unless you're in Seattle, it's probably going to co$t too much for the shipping.

The motor's still in the crate ready to be shipped in the back of my truck (shop).
I also have a set of 36mm carbs for it too!
Make me or FASTCAT a deal!

ANd yes the motor ran and shifted well I just got a bigger motor(and spent a helluva lot more money too).

Bobbychet said:

The motor's still in the crate ready to be shipped in the back of my truck (shop).
I also have a set of 36mm carbs for it too!
Make me or FASTCAT a deal!




ok i know nothing about bikes. will it bolt to my frame? what size engine do you have, how many miles where on it? i have no idea what these engines are worth.so explain what all need to be done. this is my first bike, and not haveing good luck.

Aseclub, I just sent you a PM, check your messages. I have a '94 750 engine that I was going to put on ebay, just haven't gotten around to taking it out of the frame yet, getting it all spiffy-looking, and taking some pix.

as for not running oil NO it had oil but after i drained it, it had more gas then oil in it. and as for the plug it was pulled off the boot, there is no fixing it. and it didnt run all that great when i bought it, people said that the carbs where messed up. and the timming was off because it didnt like to start in the first place.

[/QUOTE] And you still bought it????? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

So are you guys going to help me get this 600 motor out of the back of my pick-up or what?
It's a good motor. Cheap!
I would be nice if someone local wanted it "Hint"

and yes it will bolt up to the 750 frame

I tell you what

Cut me a check for $2000 plus shipping and I 'll send you the following:

1 1993 GSXR 750 9K mile engine with Web Cams freshly installed and degreed
1 Set of 39mm Keihin FCR carbs
1 Yoshimura Full Stainless Duplex race exhaust with Carbon can


That should give you 125 Rear wheel Horse power

I am dead serious....by the time you get your motor fixed you'll that if not more ask Bobby chet.


Jim

That's right Jim, shit if you don't know jhow to rebuild a motor your'e paying mostly for the labor to do it. That being said does he want 127HP or around 96 hp?
I'm reallt jus looking to get this motor outta the back of my truck!

Hey Check out Foward Air if you are really serious about getting this motor. They are supposed to be the cheapest, Shipping will be from Kent Washington to your pick-up destination. SHould,nt be too pricy. Fed-ex Freight for my 1100 motor was $225.00
from Indiana to seattle (that dirty bastard that sold me that defective bad tranny motor somebitchinlying wish a had a baseball u side his head)

Ok Billy the motors in your court now , let me know and we'll get the motor out to you.
Same items described in the trade and cash will be used for S&H.
Bobbychet

so what do the grsx 600 run in the 1/4? like a low 12?

Bobby I am not trying to step on your deal but what I cannot understand is why anyone would put a gsxr 600 motor in place of a 750 engine. I understand his motor is shot but the 600 motor only puts out 80 horses. Unless he is going to use the bottom end of the 600 engine I could see it them but in my opinion he would be throughing money away on a 600 engine. Isn't the reason you swapped was because the lack of power out of the little 600. Just curious. Like I said not trying to squash your deal but I also don't like seeing people just blindly waste money if they are not aware of all factors.


Jim

Jim the really only difference is $300.00 plus a trade instead of $2000.00
that's all! hey it's what aseclub wants not me.I should've stuck with the 600 motor I spent way too much for that 1100 motr by the time I got it right.So if he wants your 750 motor there's no hard feelings

ok question? can i use the 600 bottom end put my 750 head on there with the 36mm carbs? that would equal out the gsxr750 hp rating wouldnt it?

Bobbychet said:

Jim the really only difference is $300.00 plus a trade instead of $2000.00
that's all! hey it's what aseclub wants not me.I should've stuck with the 600 motor I spent way too much for that 1100 motr by the time I got it right.So if he wants your 750 motor there's no hard feelings



Bobby, my former post has nothing to do with my offer, hell if I was really apt to getting rid of getting combo ebay is always ready. No I just wanted him to understand that the older 600 motor does not com close to the 750 even engine the blew. I mean the stock 93 750 made 105 or so RWHP and the 600 make 80 or so RWHP big down grade on power.

Bobby to be honest if that tranny on your 1100 was good from the get go you would come out ahead.

Jim

aseclub said:

ok question? can i use the 600 bottom end put my 750 head on there with the 36mm carbs? that would equal out the gsxr750 hp rating wouldnt it?



You would be short stroking yourself...... about 700cc

To get the full 750cc you need the stroke of the 750 rods/crank.

In my opinion if all I wanted to do is ride then a 600 motor would make a good day to day beater engine for a daily commute.......while I rode the bike I would be assembling the 750 motor the right way because in the end 25 hp is a big difference.

GixxerRacer317 said:


aseclub said:

ok question? can i use the 600 bottom end put my 750 head on there with the 36mm carbs? that would equal out the gsxr750 hp rating wouldnt it?



You would be short stroking yourself...... about 700cc

To get the full 750cc you need the stroke of the 750 rods/crank.

In my opinion if all I wanted to do is ride then a 600 motor would make a good day to day beater engine for a daily commute.......while I rode the bike I would be assembling the 750 motor the right way because in the end 25 hp is a big difference.



but it would work right? i could make up a little of the difference with pipe and jetting it. also where do you get coils from? and if i where do do this should i get the coils for 600 or 750? this really isnt a big deal i just want somthing that has a little bit of kick to it. i mean if i wanted some power i would get a 1100 with turbo's and nitrous, right.

aseclub said:


GixxerRacer317 said:


aseclub said:

ok question? can i use the 600 bottom end put my 750 head on there with the 36mm carbs? that would equal out the gsxr750 hp rating wouldnt it?



You would be short stroking yourself...... about 700cc

To get the full 750cc you need the stroke of the 750 rods/crank.

In my opinion if all I wanted to do is ride then a 600 motor would make a good day to day beater engine for a daily commute.......while I rode the bike I would be assembling the 750 motor the right way because in the end 25 hp is a big difference.



but it would work right? i could make up a little of the difference with pipe and jetting it. also where do you get coils from? and if i where do do this should i get the coils for 600 or 750? this really isnt a big deal i just want somthing that has a little bit of kick to it. i mean if i wanted some power i would get a 1100 with turbo's and nitrous, right.



50cc is not "a little bit of difference"...... a pipe and jetting will not make up the difference. Theres a thing called compression ratio that will be affected by the lack of stroke. There are alot of other things affected too but I try to keep my post to a minimum without going in depth....forgive my lazyness. Suffice it to say putting a 750 top end on a 600 bottom end is not something I would invest my money in. I would either stick with a 600 motor or go for the full 750cc there is no inbetween.

In the real world of stop light to stop light riding the 600 motor will struggle to keep up with CBR600F3's and will downright get trounced by some noobie on an F4i...... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif On a road race track the differences can be made up by a good rider.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Coils are the same between the 600 and 750.....it doesn't matter. You can typically buy coils on ebay if money is tight.

Bobbychet said:

Jim the really only difference is $300.00 plus a trade instead of $2000.00
that's all! hey it's what aseclub wants not me.I should've stuck with the 600 motor I spent way too much for that 1100 motr by the time I got it right.So if he wants your 750 motor there's no hard feelings



do you have the coils for the 600 still? also will the 750 radiator work on the 600?

no I used the coils for the 1100 motor All I have that you can use is the motor ,carbs and carb boots.Did you get my last e-mail about the yellow freight costs?

yes. its up to you how you want to ship it. i could easly pick it up in sioux city. do you have aim or msn messanger? would be easyier to talk that way.

Yahoo Messenger under Bobbychet

send me a PM and I'll try to correspond with you online
messenger or Yahoo I.D.

you got mail.

Check ebay

still have that '94 motor?

-rob
rwolfe@burwood.com

lol this post id still going. well i got a 600 engine and then found out the 750 was fine and the carbs where junk on them. so i put the 600 carbs on the 750 and had nothing but problems but the 750 still runs. so if anybody has a set of 38mm carbs with boots i will buy them.

I only have a set of 36mm carbs left over. if the 38's that I have now don't fit in the 600 frame with the 1100 motor, I'll sell em.