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: need help w/ tight corners


Ernie1060
09-01-2008, 01:14 AM
hi guys, so ive only been riding a month and i love it so far, im keeping it within my limits but i can tell im getting better every time i ride... however, ive realized that i take tight turns pretty slowly becuase when i take them to fast i end up going too far wide....

like today i did a canyon ride with a buddy and hes been riding way longer than me, we got to a pretty cool u-turn and i noticed that he was able to take it way faster than me, now i know it has alot to do with the amount of time we have each been riding and our respective levels of comfort on the bike... but what im looking for are tips on technique for corner entry and exit... i took the MSF course so i know the slow, look, press and roll, but is there more or is it just a matter of riding and getting better?

any advice will help tremendously, thanks!

firstcherokeekid
09-01-2008, 01:29 AM
Nothing will help you more than signing up for your first trackday. Usually there are control riders there to help you with the very thing you are inquiring about. Nothing like getting advice from some friends but not all advice is good advice.

GSXR CHRIS
09-01-2008, 01:52 AM
First time i rode the twisties, is the same way you felt. I needed to lean more and over time ive been able to do that. Ive been using the left turn right butt cheek, right turn left butt cheek technique. Basically shifting yor weight where you want to turn. Also by riding the balls of you feet, will help you easily shift your weight for the corners. And to prevent grinding off your toes :cheers

THUNDERCAT
09-01-2008, 01:24 PM
Go to any large bookstore and pick up "Twist of the Wrist II" by Keith Code

Another good book is "Total Control" by Lee Parks

They both basically tell you the same thing and are packed with a lot of knowledge. It will talk about throttle control/braking/corner entry-exit (line) / suspension set up/ and various other topics you need to know. I agree with the above post in going to a track day to improve and learn but pick up one of the books above first and know the basics before going on the track
The info applies to street use also. (Just in case you dont plan on hitting the track)

Ernie1060
09-01-2008, 11:40 PM
thnx for the replies guys, i really really want to do a track day now, i like the whole canyon thing but i feel like that will end up being a hobby cruise type of thing and i will really cut loose at a track where its intended... im gonna pick up the 2 books and try moving my weight a bit more, i do notice that i dont really shift my body very much, at least not as much as my friends do when they take corners...

i cant wait to get really good riding, i want to learn proper technique and lines so when i do track days i really get everything out of them!

AndrewM
09-02-2008, 12:10 AM
Nothing will help you more than signing up for your first trackday. Usually there are control riders there to help you with the very thing you are inquiring about. Nothing like getting advice from some friends but not all advice is good advice.

:cheers
Also... think outside(entry), inside(apex), outside(exit). Work on being able to identify the apex and shooting for it. Track days are invaluable:thumbup
Also if you start watching ama or world superbike races, supersport races, motogp races you'll get a good idea of what good body position looks like

slodsm
09-02-2008, 10:43 AM
Getting on a track will definitely help you a lot. Although you know the techniques somewhat now, it's a natural fear to not want to lean the bike too far over (when new) and to somewhat get target fixation on what you are afraid of (running off the road in the corner) because the basic instinct to stay alive AKA not slide off a mountain side or under another car keeps you from getting over all the way and going faster. That's a healthy fear that will keep you alive when new lol.

Getting on a closed course in a controlled environment will alleviate some of that fear becuase there is no oncoming traffic and no cliffs to slide off of and in return will make you a better rider. Also a much poorer rider money wise becuase anything to do with a track is addictive :). Have fun man.

dsmgixxer
09-02-2008, 12:12 PM
twist of the wrist is on youtube too. there are also some good tutorials on there about riding techniques