Ok, I suppose I'm really confused! I apparently misread previous threads on this swap. Some of you guys responded and said to use the earlier years Swingarm (i.e. 91-93 1100) on my 94 1100 , why? The sole purpose of the swap to begin with, was for the added integrity of the newer version brace! Also, I might add that the previous owner of the bike I have, had wrecked it or something there is a notch cut into the side of the swingarm and the two bolts holding the caliper to the singarm bracket ate into the rotor. Needless to say the rear rotor failed inspection and new is expensive, thats why the rush for the rear assembly. The wheels on the bike where chromed and the rear is flaking bad, I want to send it out and have it re-chromed , but obviously need to replace the wheel w/ the 97 750 to ride it.
Furthermore, In reading some other posts it appears that the later model swingarms could be used, is the swingarm I have to new! I'm under the impression the 94 & 95 Model year are the same, am I wrong? Or was that the changed year for the swingarm? Anyhow as far as the front suspension goes I can leave it if there is no benifit to the newer front end, I would assume the larger rotors would stop a bit better and to be honest the rotors appear better vented, I can always purchase a front rim for the bike if the earlier wheel will not fit. Just want to get it done! I am a full fledged Mechanic (auto's) and dealer for Sprocket Specialists and LP ( for personal ) . I'm accustomed to hybridizing vehical's, hence I do (Fast & Furious) Type Repairs and performance mods for a living. Please Help-------- Willing to trade for the proper stuff if neccessary! Can be reached by phone also (443)260-2450 (heath @ Accellerated Autosports Inc.)
GixxerRacer317
10-21-2003, 01:01 AM
OK here's the scoop......... the 97 GSXR 750 SRAD swingarm that you have now isn't going to work (it's too new). You need to choose one of the following......
A 93 GSXR 750 swingarm if you want to make the bike change directions quicker (it's 2" shorter than the 1100 swingarm you have now and is the bannana shaped swingarm similar to the current one that you have now). This will be the simplest swap since the swap does not require any extra steps.
A 94-95 GSXR 750 swingarm if you want to make the bike change directions quicker (it's 2" shorter than the 1100 swingarm you have now and is braced similar to the 97 SRAD swingarm that you have now). You must use a spacer on the pivot bolt because the diameter of the needle bearings on the 94-95 swingarm are a larger diameter than the 94 swingarm you have now.
A 95-98 GSXR 1100 swingarm if you want to keep the current wheelbase.(it is braced similar to the 97 SRAD swingarm that you have now). You must use a spacer on the pivot bolt because the diameter of the needle bearings on the 94-95 swingarm are a larger diameter than the 94 swingarm you have now.
Hmmmmmmmmm......... did that cover everything?
If you want a 94-95 style GSXR 750 swingarm theres a guy lurking around here that goes by Zook39 that has one for sale.... otherwise search Ebay.
duckboy
10-21-2003, 01:24 AM
I think where you're getting hung up is which bike's parts are compatible with yours from a bolt-on perspective.
The easiest swaps occur between:
92-93 600's, '93-'95 750's, and '93-'98 1100's
SRAD 600's and 750's from '96 on are a whole different animal, and swapping chassis parts from them onto your bike would require lots of measuring, fabrication, swearing, and beer (maybe not in that order.) I have seen it done, however.
The '94-'95 750's came with a nice braced swingarm, which is different than the earlier "banana" style. 1100 swingarms of all years are about 2" longer than the smaller bikes, and the shorter swingarms are often swapped onto 1100's to make them handle better. The watercooler swingarm is not as advanced, IMHO, as the boxed in vesion of the SRAD bikes, but it was good enough to win lots of races. There are some minor issues about the diameter of the swingarm pivot between '92/'93 bikes and '94/'95 ones, but I've been told that you can re-use the pivot sleeve from the earlier bike inside the one for the later ones.
As for wheels, the same thing about compatibility and years holds true (with the exception of the 600 sprocket/cush drive:)
92-93 600's, '93-'95 750's, and '93-'98 1100's
with the addition of some '88 on 17" wheels, but be careful- a lot of them aren't 5.5" wide at the rear.
SRAD and later forks are marginally better and lighter than earlier watercooled upside-downers, and the brakes are the same if you already have six pots (oops, that's not entirely true- they went to 320mm rotors on SRADs.) Swapping parts from different front ends can be really difficult, as different years have different rake, tube diameter, brake rotor diameter and offset, axle diameter, etc. If you want parts from a later front end, the easiest thing to do is swap stems and use the whole later front end.
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utp216
10-21-2003, 09:07 PM
duckboy said:
The '94-'95 750's came with a nice braced swingarm, which is different than the earlier "banana" style. 1100 swingarms of all years are about 2" longer than the smaller bikes, and the shorter swingarms are often swapped onto 1100's to make them handle better. The watercooler swingarm is not as advanced, IMHO, as the boxed in vesion of the SRAD bikes, but it was good enough to win lots of races. There are some minor issues about the diameter of the swingarm pivot between '92/'93 bikes and '94/'95 ones, but I've been told that you can re-use the pivot sleeve from the earlier bike inside the one for the later ones.
I did this with my '93. I was a little worried that the inner "smaller" sleeve would pop out while on the road so I had the mechanic at work drop a few little tack welds on the two pieced then I ground them down to be nice and clean. It works for me, and I don't have to worry about them falling apart, etc. I suppose you could have a machine shop measure the two races and cnc one for you or something - but that would probably not be cost effective.
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rocket science
10-22-2003, 01:46 AM
i am looking at a kawasaki swap, ninja stuff to an old gpz 750. i checked with a local industrial bearing distributor. they said they can match the o.d. to the new i.d. roller or conventional. they also have stock available to make the new spacer sleeve. i will use end mills to get the correct length, but a machine shop should do this for cheap if you have the stock.