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: How did YOU break in your bike?


peasly23
04-20-2008, 03:56 PM
For the sake of staying on topic... just describe THE METHOD YOU USED, not WHY...

IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE WHY... LOOK IT UP ON THE GAZILLION OTHER THREADS REGARDING THE SUBJECT. Don't ruin mine with the discussion, and try to keep your opinons to yourself. It'll help prevent the inevitable argument for/against each method.

I used the mototune method...

First, I warmed the bike up to about 185-190 degrees by riding it easy to the highway. Then I wide open throttled it in second gear up to 8k rpm and let the engine slow me back down again to 2-3k rpm. Then I did that more time going to 10-12k rpms, then I did it the last time to just before redline.

Then, I switched into third gear and made two WOT pulls one to about 12k, and the other to almost redline.

Then, the rest of the day, I rode it like I stole it...

Kaxter
04-22-2008, 01:51 AM
I broke mine in exactly as the book stated.

Under 8k for the first 600 miles.

Under 12k for the next 400.

After that its fair game.



IMO: I trust the engineers that built the bikes, and the MILLIONS of dollars of research that they put into it....not some guy on the internet. You can trust thousands of engineers....or a guy in a shop. The choice is easy for me.

JinXxX600
04-23-2008, 05:04 PM
I did a mixture of both really... I kept it under 10 for the first 500mi or so, then to 14 till 1000mi, then it was on like donkey kong :)

Oh yes, and 1st oil change/service @ 650 miles because I was at school one day and it was like "hey, look at me I have 624 miles buddy..." Anyhow, the bike is fast as ever, and I havent had any engine problems so far with LOTS of miles (9600 in the past 6 months) and a good amount of time up above the poosy zone (over 12k that is :thumbup)

oh yes, and LOL @ 1/16th inch of play in your bearings with a magical layer of cushion oil...

peasly23
05-17-2008, 12:31 PM
Thanks to SVS for unlocking my hijacked thread. He removed all the replies that people went on a rant about why their method was better.

Moving on... keep the RELEVENT replies coming, it's a close race with the pole I got going...

aL8eR7
05-17-2008, 12:39 PM
Mototune method.. Runs like a champ..Did it on last bike and my K8 as well.

C.Edwards
05-17-2008, 12:55 PM
follow the ower's manual

800km below 7500rpm
1600km below 11000rpm
over 1600km below 15000rpm

grtfast
05-17-2008, 01:15 PM
I really didn't have an rpm limit during break in, I just didn't beat on it. It is important to make sure that you build sufficient cylinder pressure early on to get the rings seated properly. I know this from personal experience, not just something I read. I was definitely easier on it that I am on race engines that are being broken in because it is meant to last a long time.

jesstin
05-17-2008, 01:36 PM
Here we go again :)

Driving_Miss_Daisy
05-17-2008, 01:39 PM
I am doing it per Suzuki. They built the engine and that is what they recommend.

THUNDERCAT
05-17-2008, 02:23 PM
A little from colum A and a little from colum B. I only use the suzuki recommended intervals when traffic dictates it. Otherwise I run it hard. I dont take it to redline but hit 13.5-14 regularly through the gears.

600gsxr05
05-17-2008, 02:28 PM
just rode it the way i would regulary. Beat the hell out of it..

berettagtz117
05-17-2008, 04:47 PM
broke it in like its gonna be riddin! Scrub the tires in within first 30 miles on nice country road in and out of second under hard acceleration and rubbed my chickens off :)

HattoriHanzo
05-17-2008, 06:21 PM
I took it home, changed the oil and filter with some regular valvoline, then went for a 20 mile ride getting on it hard, took it home and changed the oil and filter again, got on it again hard and changed again at 100 then 600 miles. Switched to synthetic at around 1200 miles. Its a freakin beast right now.

live4speed
05-17-2008, 07:38 PM
the "ride it like you stole it" method works the best...just make sure that you let the bike cool down and make sure you dont lug the engine...i had 2 engines in my k7 and i did the first by the book and the second as noted above and the new engine realistically makes about 4 more hp...no dynos to prove, but the new engine definitly pulls harder!!!

snappygsxr600k7
05-17-2008, 07:58 PM
slow and easy

Integsta
05-21-2008, 05:38 PM
how can you really tell if the bike has broken in? the engine runs smoother and faster?

grtfast
05-21-2008, 06:45 PM
how can you really tell if the bike has broken in? the engine runs smoother and faster?

breaking in is just a term that is refering to the procedure you follow when running a new motor. It is not like a switch flips when the odometer hits 600.

once the rings are seated, the bike is making full power, and that happens before 100 miles. It is a good idea to be easy on bottom end though, just in case something was a little out of tolerance though. Your engine went together on an assembly line, whereas race engines get a LOT more attention during assembly.

Integsta
05-22-2008, 11:52 AM
Thanks! i already put 800 miles on my bike and it has been only 2 weeks since i picked her up. i changed my oil at 700 miles though, wonder if it has been broken in.

gzer
05-22-2008, 12:05 PM
I've always subscribed to the slow and steady method. I stayed below 8000rpm up until 200 miles but took her to 8k every chance i get. I'm now starting to creep into 9500 territory on occassion. In fact, i'm changing my oil this weekend with about 250 miles on the bike to get the shavings out. Then change the oil again at 600. Then again at 1000.

Grandevil
05-22-2008, 12:22 PM
I broke mine in exactly as the book stated.

Under 8k for the first 600 miles.

Under 12k for the next 400.

After that its fair game.



IMO: I trust the engineers that built the bikes, and the MILLIONS of dollars of research that they put into it....not some guy on the internet. You can trust thousands of engineers....or a guy in a shop. The choice is easy for me.

That's my reasoning.

I don't "ride it like I stole it" because I have respect for myself, my bike, and the people around me who need the road as well. There is a time and a place.

redlinegsxr
05-24-2008, 09:12 AM
Break it in as you intend to ride it in the future. Calm and cool break in will cause un needed stress on bike once u give it some beating so break it in hard if ur gonna ride it hard

burntorange
05-24-2008, 01:22 PM
I just ride it like I do any of my other bikes. I havent been above 10k rpms on it but I have run it a little high on the speed side. I gotta change my oil soon, im at almost 400 miles in the first week....thats only 3 days of riding so far.

Dorkfish
05-24-2008, 08:06 PM
Broke in the K7 1000 the Mototune way. Gotta build some cylinder pressure to seat the rings. It sometimes goes really, really fast.

gs-x-r750
05-25-2008, 05:37 PM
i would go with suzuki ... i did own one bike that i did not break in and i hade all kinds of shit happened to the bike, started to burn oil at 600 miles, and spun nuber 3 main bearing,cam chain, thank god it happened when it did and it was all fixed at no charge but they kept on telling me that all this happened from not being brokin in the right way..the bike was an k5-750

GSXR-Paul
05-25-2008, 08:50 PM
i would go with suzuki ... i did own one bike that i did not break in and i hade all kinds of shit happened to the bike, started to burn oil at 600 miles, and spun nuber 3 main bearing,cam chain, thank god it happened when it did and it was all fixed at no charge but they kept on telling me that all this happened from not being brokin in the right way..the bike was an k5-750

I would say that sounds more like from not warming the bike properly.
and its oil temp you worry about not water temp.

IMO I go the motortune method fore about 20-40km's but after that
an oil change and back to the grandpa way of breaking it in.

gs-x-r750
05-25-2008, 11:21 PM
I would say that sounds more like from not warming the bike properly.
and its oil temp you worry about not water temp.

IMO I go the motortune method fore about 20-40km's but after that
an oil change and back to the grandpa way of breaking it in.

thats the one thing i always did... i always warmed here up to o/t

gixxer joey
05-25-2008, 11:51 PM
I'm doing it the Suzuki way. Mainly because I read the book before I found this site. LOL

1st 500 up to 8K but would go WOT to get there. I've had my K8 for 9 days now and have already put 600miles on it. Taking it in for the first service Tuesday (I know paying alot on money for....)

Gixxerbutter
05-27-2008, 02:12 AM
When I first get any bike I let it warm up pretty good. Ride it like I normally would. I don't go wot for too long until after the first oil change. I don't take it easy and I don't rip it open either.

Oh but I do ride it for awhile. Not just a few miles here and there. I put on a good 100 miles for the first ride. Engine break all the time. And really bang through the gears.

peasly23
06-02-2008, 08:24 AM
I really had no idea how close the poll results would be. They are practically statistically insignificantly different. I'm thought I was the only one using the Mototune method. I'm glad there are so many others out there.

Just an update... My bike is running like a CHAMP!!!! Smooth as silk.

Cestode
06-02-2008, 10:06 AM
I do what he tells me to do.
http://www.matsushimasuzuki.com/

It's pretty much the same as MotoTune. Big difference is you let it warm up to 180-190 and shut it off and let it cool down. Then repeat warm up and ride it like MotoTune (on a track) NEVER lugging the engine. Then change oil. then repeat break in method without the 1st warn up/cool down. Cool down. Then warm up and RACE!!!!!!!! Change oil again after 50mi
Then your fine. to beat the piss outta it.

rraiderr
06-02-2008, 11:58 AM
You told me to hold my bike at redline for 1 minute with the clutch pulled in and than do a 2 minute burn out. You also said my bike came with special oil that does not need to be changed.

What is all this about moto tune and changing the oil?

What is that blueish white smoke that is always coming from my exhaust and why does my bike burn about a quart of oil each week?

peasly23
06-02-2008, 12:01 PM
We at Suzuki are sorry for your troubles. Please pull the entire bike apart, and send it all back to us in one big box, and we'll glady give you a double refund.

Sincerely,
Suzuki.

Cestode
06-02-2008, 12:47 PM
You told me to hold my bike at redline for 1 minute with the clutch pulled in and than do a 2 minute burn out. You also said my bike came with special oil that does not need to be changed.

What is all this about moto tune and changing the oil?

What is that blueish white smoke that is always coming from my exhaust and why does my bike burn about a quart of oil each week?


You were supposed to drain the oil BEFORE you redlined it.. :nono


DUH!!!

squale147
06-02-2008, 11:01 PM
add 2 gallons of water to crankcase with 2 q.t of koolaid ((any color)) hold w.o.t for 10 min and she should be good to go

GSXRJ
06-03-2008, 12:36 AM
I make sure to get on the throttle and let the rpms fall. I'll go past the rpm limit but not for very long when I do. Pretty much what's in the manual.

peasly23
06-03-2008, 07:46 AM
Ok guys, I know it's all kinds of fun, but try not to get off topic too much... This thread was locked once already before from people getting off topic. Just a friendly reminder :)

AFitchguy07
06-03-2008, 08:14 AM
by the manual. i went over the rmp limit a few times like 3 or 4 times once i hit 600miles i went wot on her twice for like 5 seconds. other than that it's by the book for me.

Cudajones
06-03-2008, 12:28 PM
Breakem in how you ride, thats what ive always been told

squale147
06-03-2008, 03:46 PM
o.k all kidding aside i like the suzuki way..but the thing i dont get is that mototune man says first 20 min is the most important for the rings witch is true but remember that they a run for a short time at the factory so then if thats true then mototune way wouldent matter or would it??????

NEMES1Sx1st
06-03-2008, 07:19 PM
either way... the bike will treat you how you treat the bike... i prefer not directly listening to the dealership/manufacturer's instructions completely... i'll rev it probably up to 8k to 10k at most while breaking it in... you want to make sure you dont keep it at a constant but constantly go up and down the gears and throttle as while play with it.. dont just be steady with it...

08-7fiddy
06-10-2008, 11:15 PM
I had the dyno break in from the dealership and run it hard as i want now , so they told me.

JamieDubS
06-11-2008, 12:39 AM
Kept it under 6 or 7 k for the first 175 miles then changed the oil but I kept my rpms moving I never kept them in a steady place (to help seat my rings). Change the oil and rode it normally but didnt take it over 10 k except twice to 14 k up until 750 miles changed it again now im at 1500 and im riding it like I stole it. and ill switch to full synthetic at 2000.

Also changing the oil at 175 miles it was crazy to see how much metal shards there was in the oil only at 175. And at 750 there was still some but nowhere near what there was at 175. Now at 2k I will hopefully see nothing. I will repost and tell ya.

evilbear78
06-20-2009, 04:57 PM
I have 671 mi. on my 08 Gixxer 600, and so far, I haven't been over 7500 RPM's. Pretty soon I'm going to take her to around 9,000 in first and second gears, and then get my first service around 800 to 1,000 miles. After 1,000 I'm going to follow the rest of the manual. I have followed the manual thus so far, and to be honest, I ride like a F*&$ING TURTLE! I almost ALWAYS shift around 5,000 to 6,000 RPM. That's probably too low, but I am still getting used to the BEAST. Maybe when I find a track I will be able to "open it up" without fear of CAGERS.

Stew600
06-20-2009, 05:18 PM
First 600 miles- under 8k rpms

next 400 miles- under 10k rpms

after 1000 miles- rode it like i stole it

downsc123
06-20-2009, 06:37 PM
I have 671 mi. on my 08 Gixxer 600, and so far, I haven't been over 7500 RPM's. Pretty soon I'm going to take her to around 9,000 in first and second gears, and then get my first service around 800 to 1,000 miles. After 1,000 I'm going to follow the rest of the manual. I have followed the manual thus so far, and to be honest, I ride like a F*&$ING TURTLE! I almost ALWAYS shift around 5,000 to 6,000 RPM. That's probably too low, but I am still getting used to the BEAST. Maybe when I find a track I will be able to "open it up" without fear of CAGERS.

You really should do your first service now or at the very least change the oil and filter and check/adjust chain tension.

CourtJester
06-20-2009, 06:45 PM
I've gotten a couple of new bikes. I took one bike to the track for the first break in and the last one i just took on some back roads and ran it balls out.

if you want the rings and everything to seal the way they should, it's gonna take some serious heat and pressure. tip toeing around wont set everything in place the way it should. if the first 100 or so miles isn't hard core, it wont hold up to the hard core shit near as long in the future.

elvisgsxr
06-20-2009, 08:33 PM
i am using the the suzuki manual method
under 8k for 600 miles
under 12k for the next 600 miles
first oil change at 600 miles

nj01_6
06-20-2009, 11:13 PM
I couldn't wait for 1000 miles. < 7k rpm for 600 miles, changed oil, and rode it like I stole it.

Wicked_Gixxer
06-21-2009, 12:41 PM
I took first 2km easy around my house and then started driving it in crazy way from 7-9k but no wot pull from low rpm for 50km . And I wasn't even used to the bike but it was ok. I used mutune way or whatever people call it.

baretta2009
06-21-2009, 02:57 PM
i rode it like i stole it after the first 200km's

BurlyGIX
06-21-2009, 03:02 PM
Rode it normally I guess, but never beat on it. Under 10 or 11k for now. Goes in for 1000km service next weekend so its fair game in my books after that.

Shanes750
06-21-2009, 06:48 PM
Mototune method on every vehicle I have owned with never a problem!

g34343greg
06-21-2009, 09:39 PM
aaaaannnndd this is why i i bought new

Snafu
06-22-2009, 02:16 AM
I followed the MOM.

evilbear78
03-17-2011, 08:11 PM
aaaaannnndd this is why i i bought new

Couldn't agree more. At least you know where it has been and whether it had the balls beaten out of it, or not. I prefer not to inherit someones problem, so I always buy new.

SamanthaSchou
03-17-2011, 10:32 PM
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/gixxergirlK8/Stuff/threadnecromancyns1nf0.jpg

MotoMummy
03-17-2011, 10:41 PM
a few heat cycles then ripped on it hardcore...

enchantor
03-18-2011, 03:57 PM
aaaaannnndd this is why i i bought new

Haha yep! By the book for me. I believe the people who built it in the first place.

CourtJester
03-21-2011, 09:21 PM
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/gixxergirlK8/Stuff/threadnecromancyns1nf0.jpg


Hahahaha...


I did get rid of the gixxer and got a new CBR 1000.
It's still cold in Iowa but it's parked at the moment waiting for a good balls out break in followed by good solid oil change to get everything sealed up good.

Dorkfish
03-23-2011, 12:34 PM
Haha yep! By the book for me. I believe the [lawyers who boss around the] people who built it in the first place.

I fixed that for ya.