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: What price should we settle for?


Fast240Z
04-11-2008, 01:15 AM
My friend and I are looking to buy our very first streetbikes, and we have both settled on the 2008 GSXR lineup. I'm looking into the white and silver 600, and my friend is considering the black on black 750. We have been looking around for the best deals on our bikes, and the dealers said that they would be willing to do some kind of a deal since we will be buying them at the same time. MSRP on the 600 is $9399, and the 750 is $10599. Our local dealer also has a $700 freight fee on each bike, $300 for a set up fee, and then $75 or so for title fees.

How good of a deal should we be looking for? I read the other thread here on the dealer prices of the 750, but it seems that no one has an exact concrete number. We were thinking that if we could talk the dealer down to $9000 on the 600 and $10000 for the 750, as well as waiving the freight and setup fees, that we might be getting a good deal.

Is our deal overkill, or should we be asking for more off? I understand that the k8's are in high demand now, but I'm sure the dealer is in the game to make some money.

Thanks!

rraiderr
04-11-2008, 01:17 PM
$700 for freight and $300 more for setup is crazy. That's $1000 added to the price of the bike.

The first thing you need to do is get that down to a reasonable amount.

I would say if you can get the setup and freight both to be less that $300 and you get $1000 off each bike that would be a good deal.

Giving you money off and than making it back up in freight and setup is not a good deal it is the dealer scamming you.

What state are you in?

This is just my opinion.

squale147
04-11-2008, 05:18 PM
dont let them b.s you with all that shit.. always talk out the door numbers.. for example if the 600 m.s.r.p is9,300.00 make an offer of 8,800.00 OUT THE DOOR.. i think if you do it that way you should be able to get the bike for 500.00 800.00 off the m.s.r.p out the door witch is about right..

600to750death
04-11-2008, 07:36 PM
Luckily I grew up with my dealer since elementary school, and he'll be hookin it up at cost, with taxes,title,freight,setup and all the other bs, it'll be about 10000 (which puts actual amount down to 9200 or so, I would definately say both of you walk in same time and tell them you'll pay 18,500 to whomever wants to make the commission!! good luck on the 750, still dont have mine but soooooooon(thats what I tell myself to go to bed at night)

Fast240Z
04-11-2008, 10:11 PM
I live in Sacramento, CA. I wasn't sure if we were coming up with a good deal, or if it was more of a pipe dream. I agree that the setup and freight is outrageous. I'd love to over the guys $8000 for the 600 and $10000 for the 750, but I wasn't sure if we'd actually get that since some other poor sap might go in and just settle for the price because the bikes are so new.

So, I should negotiate the freight and setup fees as low as possible, and see if we can get at least $1000 off of each bike, if not more. My friend had an idea that we should buy our helmets now, and then when we go to get the bikes to bring the helmets in as proof that we are willing to buy the bikes right at that point. I laughed at that idea.

rraiderr
04-11-2008, 11:04 PM
You do not need proof you are willing to buy the bike. If the dealer does not treat you right try another dealer. You can also pit dealers against each other as they will usually beat the other guys deal.

The dealer you are working with does not sound like someone I would want to buy a bike from.

If you want to give him one more try tell him to take $1000 off each bike and you will not pay more than a couple hundred in shipping and setup. If he says yes go for it is not go somewhere else.

Fast240Z
04-11-2008, 11:16 PM
I was talking to my dad (I'm 22) and he said he'd help me haggle for an awesome deal. I've seen how he is with car salespeople, so I have a feeling I should get a pretty good deal.

Good advice on contacting a few dealers, I know of one particular dealer that we will probably buy from, they weren't trying to rip us off as bad as the dealer mentioned earlier. It's a little bit of a drive from my house, but worth it if they give us a better deal.

rraiderr
04-11-2008, 11:58 PM
We drove 2.5 hours to get a deal on my buddies 07 600. While the drive sucked the deal he got was off the hook. Sometimes the dealers off the beaten path are really willing to cut some great deals.

You may want to call around and see what they will do for you over the phone before you drive way out.

They will not try to scam your Dad so bring him along if he is willing to help.

squale147
04-12-2008, 12:01 AM
I was talking to my dad (I'm 22) and he said he'd help me haggle for an awesome deal. I've seen how he is with car salespeople, so I have a feeling I should get a pretty good deal.

Good advice on contacting a few dealers, I know of one particular dealer that we will probably buy from, they weren't trying to rip us off as bad as the dealer mentioned earlier. It's a little bit of a drive from my house, but worth it if they give us a better deal.

good luck:cheers

Knight2211
04-12-2008, 08:48 AM
Like was said earlier, start to deal in 'out the door', not all the seperate #s

TravisL1213
04-12-2008, 12:23 PM
First Bikes Huh..... I Got Dibs On The 750 Motor

TheCunningMan
04-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Anything under 10k

Fast240Z
04-12-2008, 06:34 PM
First Bikes Huh..... I Got Dibs On The 750 Motor


First bikes that we have bought, but not our first time riding.

squale147
04-12-2008, 10:01 PM
First bikes that we have bought, but not our first time riding.

becarful,, those bikes ant exactly for newer rides

GSXRJ
04-12-2008, 10:22 PM
Try Vegas where they wouldn't go lower than.................

12000 OTD on the 08 600

JBrown
04-13-2008, 01:02 AM
yeah dude

DEFINITELY talk OTD for the most part

Tell them you want a certain price OTD and dont even worry about how the price breaks down.

I went in for a leftover K7 1000, I didnt even touch freight numbers, prep numbers, etc. I really dont care about these numbers because all that matters is how much I pay out the door. For all I care, I could be paying $1000 for the bike and $9000 for prep. As long as Im getting the bike in MY garage for $10,000

It can get very confusing when you are talking all the numbers separately. Just talk OTD and you also come across as a more "no bullshit", experienced buyer. If you walk in there talking all the numbers separately and what not, a dealer may see you as not really knowing what you're doing and thats how they know they might have a chance at ripping you off


BTW.......


Do you guys have CASH IN HAND or are you financing??

This also plays a decent sized role in what kind of a deal you can get

Fast240Z
04-13-2008, 03:47 AM
Good tip on the OTD recommendation. Breaking it down does seem like a rookie move.

We are financing the bikes, but going though a local credit union instead of financing through the dealership or Suzuki.

rraiderr
04-13-2008, 05:24 AM
While the above sounds good be careful with OTD pricing if you are financing the bike or want to avoid scams.

Regardless of the theory or rookie buying moves the fact remains the bank works financing off the loan value of the bike.

If you go with what what is stated above where you do not care the break down and the dealer changes you more than loan value for the bike the bank may not finance the loan.

I agree the out the door price is what you want to work off but it is critical that you know the break down as to what you paying for and how much they are charing you for the bike and so on.

You always what to know what the line items are you are being charged for as this prevent you from signing up for services you do not want like the dealer oil change and maintenance packages as well as protects you from outrageous interest rates and so on.

You want to be an informed and educated buyer not a buyer who signs on the doted line without knowing what you are signing up for.

dietCOKaine
04-13-2008, 11:05 AM
As a word of caution, I would let the 750 lead and dictate the speed to start off your new bike purchase. The 600 will be able to whip through the corners easier than the 750 (marginally). If you lead on the 600 and your friend tries to keep up in the twistries to keep up, he may very likely go wide and run off the road and you will be riding the summer alone. I have seen it so many times where a new rider (atleast new in HP and technology of later model bikes) triets to keep up with a faster rider/bike and dumps it.

Anyway, if you both can resist the urge to twist...you should be fine. The only thing more dangerous than a new bike rider.....is 2 new bike riders side by side.

Good luck and be safe.

BTW, never deal with dealers in the shop face to face. Email all the dealers and have them email you their best offer. Tell them you are shopping around so they know you are not dead set on their dealership. The benefit of this is you have their deal in writing in the email and they can not as easily deny the offer they quoted you. Often dealers will say a quote over the phone and when you get there to do the paperwork numbers will change with no proof of the original deal offered.

naztty
04-13-2008, 09:21 PM
Go to cycletrader.com & do a search & you'll see who's offering the best deals out there. Then start whittling down your decision via emails. You'll be a lot more prepared once you actually walk into a dealership. & no offense to dad, but unless your father is a professional new bike buyer he's not going to be of any help - the salesman is going to size-up you & dad in <5 minutes and he'll know if you've done your pricing research on this bike & if you're serious about buying it. oh yea, checkout the Toledo OH dealership they seem to be offering good online deals on the new GSXR - but i'm not sure how they negotiate. Good luck!