Im new to riding a bike over 50cc and now im wondering if i should of got at least a 750.
my 600 cant even power a wheelie without playing with it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

That bike can do most things that a larger bike can do, it depends on who's riding it. There are guys on here that can power up second, clutch 2nd, clutch 3rd and some guys can bounce 3rd up stock.

I ride with a guy that bounces up 3rd on his stock F4i when you got skills you got skills no matter what bike your riding.

It's not the bike. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif

well that depends on what you like http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif from my experience I loved my 600 for the most part since I am a bigger guy 6'3" 240lbs I felt it lacked a lil in mid-range but since I dont race I really didnt care that much. When I did finally get my 750 though, I loved it the powerband is much smoother than the 600 and there is tons of power, again since I dont race I dont need all that power for the street and will never use it here in the city. Now for "at least" if you can test ride some bikes I have never ridden a 1000 so I cant give you any info but I can imagine its just crazy power. Like I said before test some bikes out see what you like http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Just my .02

I have rode all 3 bikes and I do admit they they are smoother and pull harder but I guess it does depend on what you really want to do. I ride with guys out N the country and N the city, highway and yeah I can't pull up 4th like a 1K can but the 6 is fun to rip around on. Me personally I dont need anything bigger right now, maybe one day it would be nice to get a bigger bike but this bike is not to small to me for most types of riding.

Well I aonly weigh a buck 55 so I can't talk about that part. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The 600 is big enough. You can get the front up on the 600 easily enough it just depends on the technique.

I'm 235lbs and about 6'1" tall. When I got my 600 I was about 260, and it still amazed me how much power it had. The size of the person makes no difference in which size bike to get. Your 600 should be enough bike for you. My bike can bring the front end up in first without even trying. There have been times that I've been riding my bike aggressively and have had to back off the throttle in 2nd because the front was getting lite. It's the rider

BeeStang said:

Im new to riding a bike over 50cc and now im wondering if i should of got at least a 750.
my 600 cant even power a wheelie without playing with it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif




Well you have to learn to wheelie first before you complain about it. and for who ever said it those f4i's I don't know what's up but I swear the front end is lighter. Anyhow, yeah i've got a 6 and I'll get a 1k later on. But stock you can get gears 1-3 up. I've got gearing just for the heck of it. But i've brought up stock f4i's in 3rd and almost stock gix 6's up in 3rd. the gixxer had a -1 front and stock everything else. It was all a bounce. get about 40 and hammer your throttle in 1st gear and see what it does. its got plenty of power!! I ride wheelies all the way down the freeway next to the guys who say they got a bigger bike cause they hated getting left behind on the freeway cause they couldn't get there 6 up at freeway speeds. Just ride her hard and make her beg for more, cause guess what--- she'll give it to ya.
If you want a little more punch get some different gearing and try some of the mods people have listed on the websiite. every little bit helps.

I love my sixxer and dont plan on changing for a long time
go with the six if you like riding twisties as you can really give it to the bike

Are you twisting the throttle all the way? 1st gear gas only wheelies should be a breeze even if you dont lean back. The bounce technique is a great way of getting the front end up. Lean back just a little and second gear should come easy enough. Im still working on 3rd gear wheelies myself.

for a 6, ya just lean back standing and pull it up with a bounce at about 45-75. of coarse at higher speeds it will shoot straight up cause u're higher in the power band. But for third i like to get my 6 and my friends stock one, at about 80 and just bounce it good and throttle it hard. But i actually speed up and as soon as i let of the throttle from speeding up for a second and i bounce with the recoil from the throttle. Then i hammer the throttle again. they ride forever. but they are to fast, you catch everyone so u always have to change lanes.

my first gear wheelies came up like cake with stock gearing and took some effort to pull second. I changed the gearing and went down one tooth in the front and now second comes up super easy and third gear was a little effort, but it came up.

-=bmacd=-

Yes, you need a 1000......with a turbo.

Porsche GT2: 456 bhp, 3150 lbs - hp/wgt .14476
Dodge Viper: 500 bhp, 3350 lbs - hp/wgt .14925
GSX-R 600 w/ 175lb rider: 101 bhp, 540 lbs - hp/wgt .18703

I've made the most out of every bike I have owned. Guys used to laugh when I would pick up my 1994 FZR 600 in second on the highway with just the gas. (Back then it was not so common.) It was fun for a while but took a lot of work. I went to a GSXR 750 in 1997 and again in 2000. It just kept getting better. Bone stock you could bounce it up in 3rd at 95mph. That was fun for a while too. I picked up a stock 2002 1k and outfitted it with some choice parts in August. I don't have to bounce anymore and I sleep much better ;-)

If you are disciplined at all, go with a more powerful bike and ease your way into it. If you like being the underdog like David vs. Goliath then stick with the 600 and master what you have. As far as the 750 goes...it is a well rounded bike, affordable, and capable of hanging with the big bores if it is done up right.

if you cant power wheelie a 600 then you are going something wrong. im 200 lbs. and with stock gearing my bike can power wheelie in 2nd no problem. no clutch work, no bounce. i dont use stock gearing anymore so my bike will power wheelie in 3rd no problem.

bmfgsxr said:

if you cant power wheelie a 600 then you are going something wrong. im 200 lbs. and with stock gearing my bike can power wheelie in 2nd no problem. no clutch work, no bounce. i dont use stock gearing anymore so my bike will power wheelie in 3rd no problem.



Well shoot i've heard of a gix 6 powering up in 2nd with -1 +2, but once it got up it was redlined. And that was a chop method i think. If your powering up 3rd, then your prolly not seen to many triple digits anymore then. i doubt he needs to gear that much, nor try and run his bike that high constantly for the everday wheelie. Yikes!!

im +5 on the rear and she is still good for at least 140mph and sure, im in the meat of the powerband when i bring it up, but i just shift up to 4th and balance, then 5th..although, your right.. it wont just power up. it needs a good tug but it still comes up without the clutch. its not a big deal. my bike is a race bike though so it doesnt see any street miles anymore.

Yeah maybe im not whipping the throttle fast enough. And today i tried to do it after installing the tre plus having a small nail in my tire i couldn't get it up http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif tired bringing it to about 6k rpm then cranked on it. I need to try and bounce it . i havent leaned back yet and been hugging the gas tank everytime. just have to remember to sit my 195lbs to the rear of the seat then try. thanxs 4 the info guys.

My local suzuki dealer wanted $198 for a new rear tire http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/lick.gif

See there is your problem right there. 6k is nowhere near high enough. Take it to say 8k then let off for a split second and axe it. Your front end will come up faster than you can handle.

as far as second goes i bet when i lean back i start to clutch it at around 7k and drop it at 10k or so. i'm not sure cause i listen to the motor not the tach.

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Yeah I finally got it up. My wife is so happy. yeah rpm at like 8.5k and it went up easy. thanx guys. also didnt need to lean back either.

i forgot was this a 2nd gear or 1st gear question?

If in 1st be around 40 and just hammer it, but its been like a year since i was trying to those kind of wheelies.

i dunno what to tell you my 03 sixxer comes up in first and second no problem i guess u just have to learn how to bring it up.You are probably watching the guys on the 1000 bring it up like nothing thats why you saying it doesnt come up. Also thats why most noobs get 1000 because all they want to do is bring it up but when u get in the canyons they cant ride the bike.

All i can tell you is ride it in first till 8rpm then let go for a sec bring it up to 10kor 13 and see what happens

good luck

dude i have more fun on a 600 wheelie than the 750 cuz the throttle is so touchy on the 7. it has enough power but the 7 is the best all around bike. it handles like a 600 but runs wit the 1000 bikes.