: AMSOIL filters, got one for nearly all your needs.
Amsoil Dealer Group 03-28-2008, 03:32 PM Take a look at this link to view the wide filtration line that AMSOIL offers for on and off the road vehicles. If you see something you want more info on or to purchase let one of our forum sponsoring dealers know.
http://www.amsoil.com/filtration/index.aspx
crackpantspaintr 04-01-2008, 11:39 PM i just got some stuff from amsoil and the filter i got is longer and has a smaller OD than the OEM one...what gives??
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-02-2008, 01:16 PM If it is a Suzuki and utilizes a Spin-On Filter, it should be an EAOM-109. The filter is designed to meet or exceed your OEM Filter and fit multiple applications.
The EAO Flter will outperform any and all filters on the market today.
Bob S
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chero20 04-04-2008, 04:54 PM been using AMSOIL for the past 2 years. on both bikes and all cars, but i see you don't carry MB oil filters.
speedy81304 04-05-2008, 10:14 AM let me just but my .02 in about amsoil. its the best on earth. i run amsoil in everything i got. in my truck i run the 0w-30 the good stuff. and change it every 30K. the filter every 15K. here was a test i did by my self i bought a 2000 ford ZX2 hint new name for escort. ran it for 650 miles for break in. changed every thing oil in the engine the trans axle and put amsoil fuel treatment in it. at 50K i sent a sample to amsoil they said it can go another 20K at 100K i sent a smaple to amsoil they said its still good but should be changed. well here its is 100K on the same oil. just replaced the filter and topped the oil level off every 10K. try that with mobile one or any other oil. i still have this car its my daily driver. has 185K on it and still no engine or trans proplems just your normal wear items. tires brakes wheel bearings at 114K timing belt every 65K. plugs every 20K. but the key is every time i send a sample to asmoil there is really very low wear particals found. also found out on a dyno at MMI in orlando. we took a new GSXR1000 ran it on the dyno with factory oil. then flushed the engine put amsoil in it ran it again. and found almost 2 hp more. and thats with just an oil change. im no dealer but i will say its money well spent.
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-05-2008, 10:56 AM been using AMSOIL for the past 2 years. on both bikes and all cars, but i see you don't carry MB oil filters.
Give me a Part # of the current filter you are using and let me see what I can come up with.
Bob S
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Amsoil Dealer Group 04-05-2008, 10:59 AM let me just but my .02 in about amsoil. its the best on earth. i run amsoil in everything i got. in my truck i run the 0w-30 the good stuff. and change it every 30K. the filter every 15K. here was a test i did by my self i bought a 2000 ford ZX2 hint new name for escort. ran it for 650 miles for break in. changed every thing oil in the engine the trans axle and put amsoil fuel treatment in it. at 50K i sent a sample to amsoil they said it can go another 20K at 100K i sent a smaple to amsoil they said its still good but should be changed. well here its is 100K on the same oil. just replaced the filter and topped the oil level off every 10K. try that with mobile one or any other oil. i still have this car its my daily driver. has 185K on it and still no engine or trans proplems just your normal wear items. tires brakes wheel bearings at 114K timing belt every 65K. plugs every 20K. but the key is every time i send a sample to asmoil there is really very low wear particals found. also found out on a dyno at MMI in orlando. we took a new GSXR1000 ran it on the dyno with factory oil. then flushed the engine put amsoil in it ran it again. and found almost 2 hp more. and thats with just an oil change. im no dealer but i will say its money well spent.
It is amazing just how far AMSOIL will go and can be confirmed by Oil Analysis.
Bob S
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chero20 04-06-2008, 07:53 PM for the original MB i don't have it with me, although i just change the oil and filter, a week a go. for the WIX 51226 Oil Filter on you website. no the same quality as the OE from MB.
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-06-2008, 08:03 PM Well, it does say for "Nearly" all your needs... LOL
You are correct, no AMSOIL Filter.
How do you mean it is not the same quality ? Few filters are better constructed than the WIX.
Too bad we can't find out who made the OEM Filter.
Bob S.
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chero20 04-06-2008, 10:03 PM the reason of the filter i replaced the original with a WIX, and after 5k miles it wouldn't filter, compare to the OEM, is like day and night , i would of loved to have a AMSOIL, but maybe in the future.
thanks again.
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-07-2008, 04:43 AM the reason of the filter i replaced the original with a WIX, and after 5k miles it wouldn't filter, compare to the OEM, is like day and night , i would of loved to have a AMSOIL, but maybe in the future.
thanks again.
How do you know it wouldn't filter ?
Bob S.
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chero20 04-07-2008, 11:33 AM I used to worked at a MB dealer(long story). so we took the WIX and the original, the WIX was so heavy of oil that i wouldn't take anymore oil and just dump it. remember its just a paper filter the WIX, the original its not.
rraiderr 04-10-2008, 12:21 AM Mr Amsoil guy what is the part number for the Amsoil filter for the 2008 GSX-R750. The OEM filter part number is
Part# 16510-03G00-X07
Thanks
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-10-2008, 08:10 AM AMSOIL Filter # EAOM-109
Bob S.
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rraiderr 04-14-2008, 11:47 PM Thanks
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-15-2008, 07:00 AM Thanks
ANYTIME
Bob S.
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MCTech 04-19-2008, 06:21 AM AMSOIL preferred customer here...
Great products, recommended.
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-19-2008, 11:00 AM AMSOIL preferred customer here...
Great products, recommended.
Thanks for the Kudo's
Bob S.
GSXR-Rob 04-20-2008, 07:52 AM AMSOIL Filter # EAOM-109
Bob S.
Doc
is that the same part number for a 2006 gsxr 1000?
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-20-2008, 08:23 AM is that the same part number for a 2006 gsxr 1000?
Yes it is.... Most Suzuki's with a Spin-On take that filter
Bob S.
gixxeR 04-20-2008, 07:43 PM How much better is the AMSOil vs the Stock filter?
i just changed my oil to the AMSOil Synthetic.
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-20-2008, 07:59 PM How much better is the AMSOil vs the Stock filter?
i just changed my oil to the AMSOil Synthetic.
There is not a better filter on the market today.. The AMSOIL EA Series Filters are conservatively rated at 15 Micron Absolute, and does a Superior job over all other filters down to 5 Micron.
Bob S.
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jaysfiveohhh 04-23-2008, 11:18 AM i have a 2006 gsxr750 with 10,000 miles and the guy i got it from had replaced the clutch with and aftermarket(barnett) clutch. he was told to use conventional oil because the synthetic may cause the clutch to slip because its to slick. does that make any sense to you? i ran amsoil in the last bike with no problems. i love only having to change the oil once a year!
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-23-2008, 12:43 PM i have a 2006 gsxr750 with 10,000 miles and the guy i got it from had replaced the clutch with and aftermarket(barnett) clutch. he was told to use conventional oil because the synthetic may cause the clutch to slip because its to slick. does that make any sense to you? i ran amsoil in the last bike with no problems. i love only having to change the oil once a year!
Going to call a HUGE B.S.
As long as the oil carries a JASO MA, or Better yet, MA 2 Rating such as AMSOIL MCF or MCV, you are fine to run Synthetics...
And, with AMSOIL and the use of the AMSOIL EAOM filter, as you said, 1 year or double OEM Recommended Mileage, whichever comes first.
Bob S.
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pwrhungry 04-24-2008, 10:53 AM What is the oil filter number for a 07 gsxr 1000? The amsoil website doesnt specify past 06? The 06 filter is EAOM109, is it the same for an 07?
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-24-2008, 11:01 AM Same filter.... EAOM-109
Bob S.
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I'm-a-punk 04-26-2008, 06:22 AM what filter # for 05 GSXR600?
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-30-2008, 02:32 PM what filter # for 05 GSXR600?
An EOAM109 filter.
george
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MaG18 05-14-2008, 11:59 PM For the 1st oil change at 600 miles, would you recomend regular oil, synthetic blend, or full synthetic? If not full, when is a good time to switch to full synthetic?
Amsoil Dealer Group 05-15-2008, 05:53 AM For miles 1 through 600 whatever the factory oil is... It is to get machining and casting debris out of the engine. After that it is up to your comfort level... I changed my last two bikes over to AMSOIL 100% Synthetic MotorCycle Oil for the 600 change...
The old "You need to break your engine in before switching to Synthetic" has been dead for many years.
Check out the g2156 Link in our Sig. Pick one of the Top 3 oils oils and you will have many years of trouble free riding.
Bob S.
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MrKane 05-15-2008, 10:07 AM What is the difference between the EOAM-109 and EOAM 109c
MaG18 05-15-2008, 12:25 PM and i take it that its a good idea to switch to your clutch/ transmission fluid as well? :D
jlyons2011 05-29-2008, 08:49 PM What oil/filter do you reccomend running in my 2005 gsxr 750? I do not know the part number for the filter.
Amsoil Dealer Group 05-29-2008, 09:49 PM AMSOIL Product Code MCF MotorCycle Specific 10W-40 and the AMSOIL EAOM-109 Filter.
Bob S.
Beaker 05-29-2008, 10:30 PM Recently I helped a friend tear down 2 drag bikes that were both using AMSOIL for the fluids and one had an AMSOIL filter and one had a POS (*cough* fram *cough*) filter, both had blown engines (not from the AMSOIL, from the nitrous). We decided to hacksaw the 2 filters in half just to take a look at how much metal had made it to the filters (we normally do this to blown engines).
The fram had a piece of metal that had torn through the filter element and left a pretty good sized hole. The Amsoil had NO holes in the filter element, and it also had twice the metal in it.
This was a big giant :thumbup for AMSOIL filters and a HUGE :flipoff to the other guys (*cough* fram *cough*)
I tried to tell him that FRAM filters were POS filters that I wouldn't even run on an old beat to death ford pinto...
V2rider 05-31-2008, 09:18 PM Another plus for amsoil. I pour it on my cereal in the morning.
Amsoil Dealer Group 05-31-2008, 09:35 PM Another plus for amsoil. I pour it on my cereal in the morning.
Wow.... I thought I was the only one that did stuff like that.. I use the PI on my Pancakes and Waffles..
Of course, my G/F loves my Glow in the Dark AMSOIL Underwear..
Bob S.
V2rider 06-01-2008, 12:04 AM lol..
crackpantspaintr 06-01-2008, 10:25 PM Of course, my G/F loves my Glow in the Dark AMSOIL Underwear..
Bob S.
where can i get some ????
Amsoil Dealer Group 06-01-2008, 10:59 PM Just take a pair of black boxers to the screen printer..
Bob S.
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gs-x-r750 07-19-2008, 10:04 PM im am a beleaver in amsoil now... after reading a buch of o.a on a site...it is amazing how there is not to many others that came close
squale147 07-20-2008, 11:16 AM im a amsoil prefered custmer and thinking of becoming a dealler... i have to say that in all my yeares of being a mechanic i never saw an oil hold up like amsoil...i have my own little motorcycle shop that i run out of my garage and i have a good amount of bikes i work on... i did my own comparson with 2 bikes... one filled with amsoil 10-40 full synthetic and the other with brand-x.... both bikes went 3,000 miles when i drained brand-x it looked bad... very black.. when i drained the amsoil.. it came out and i sware it looked like it was never used... it still hade a gold color to it... to all of you that are thinking about it but are not sure... think no more this is the stuff.. i am still in shock about how good amsoil is.. i will use nothing elis but amsoil in my bikes
Amsoil Dealer Group 07-20-2008, 11:54 PM Thanks for the Kudo's guys..
Bob Schultz
gsxr1100_27 07-25-2008, 10:55 AM im a amsoil prefered custmer and thinking of becoming a dealler... i have to say that in all my yeares of being a mechanic i never saw an oil hold up like amsoil...i have my own little motorcycle shop that i run out of my garage and i have a good amount of bikes i work on... i did my own comparson with 2 bikes... one filled with amsoil 10-40 full synthetic and the other with brand-x.... both bikes went 3,000 miles when i drained brand-x it looked bad... very black.. when i drained the amsoil.. it came out and i sware it looked like it was never used... it still hade a gold color to it... to all of you that are thinking about it but are not sure... think no more this is the stuff.. i am still in shock about how good amsoil is.. i will use nothing elis but amsoil in my bikes
I would not go by engine oil color unless you are superman. I good dealer should tell you that. I have see and tested oil for about 20 years and seen black oil test great and clear oil bad. I was a dealer for year and stopped.
Only true way is UOA’s.
Amsoil engine oil is good but it is no cleaner; too low of ester count. Used Amsoil since 1990 (along with other gas/diesel oils) and you think your engine is clean. Throw in Lc20, for example and it will become black since it is cleaning. Heck throw in Lc and watch UOA come back 100% better. Been there done that.
Amsoil filter are good but I know there last SDF tested okay on my bike when compared to others I have used. For the price there SDF where overpriced.
Amsoil Dealer Group 07-25-2008, 03:38 PM I would not go by engine oil color unless you are superman. I good dealer should tell you that. I have see and tested oil for about 20 years and seen black oil test great and clear oil bad. I was a dealer for year and stopped.
Only true way is UOA’s.
Amsoil engine oil is good but it is no cleaner; too low of ester count. Used Amsoil since 1990 (along with other gas/diesel oils) and you think your engine is clean. Throw in Lc20, for example and it will become black since it is cleaning. Heck throw in Lc and watch UOA come back 100% better. Been there done that.
Amsoil filter are good but I know there last SDF tested okay on my bike when compared to others I have used. For the price there SDF where overpriced.
SDF Filters outperformed all other filters on the market but have been gone for 3 years now. They have been replaced by the EA Series which is conservatively rated at 15 Micron. No other filter does this.
If an engine running AMSOIL builds up any sludge, it will usually be due to Nitration of the oil which IS a mechanical problem, not an oil problem.
We just did oil analysis on 3 identical bikes, all right at 10,000 miles.. 2 came back "No Corrective Action Required, Continue To Next Regular Service Interval" One came back with elevated Silicon (Dirt) and wear metals. This was my bike... The only real difference between these 3 bikes... I had a piece of junk K&N Filter on it that the Dealer installed. The oil itself was still serviceable but too contaminated for my liking even though the UOA did not come back "Critical"
The K&N is now gone and an AMSOIL Nano Fiber has been put in its place, which flows as well as a wetted gauze and filters up to 50 times better.
I agree about the "looks" of oil but in everyday applications, it is an indicator.
As far as Ester content, AMSOIL uses the amount of Esters required to give the oil polarity. Use of too much Ester can be harmful to seals and gaskets..
Bob Schultz
gsxr1100_27 07-25-2008, 08:45 PM SDF Filters outperformed all other filters on the market but have been gone for 3 years now. They have been replaced by the EA Series which is conservatively rated at 15 Micron. No other filter does this.
If an engine running AMSOIL builds up any sludge, it will usually be due to Nitration of the oil which IS a mechanical problem, not an oil problem.
We just did oil analysis on 3 identical bikes, all right at 10,000 miles.. 2 came back "No Corrective Action Required, Continue To Next Regular Service Interval" One came back with elevated Silicon (Dirt) and wear metals. This was my bike... The only real difference between these 3 bikes... I had a piece of junk K&N Filter on it that the Dealer installed. The oil itself was still serviceable but too contaminated for my liking even though the UOA did not come back "Critical"
The K&N is now gone and an AMSOIL Nano Fiber has been put in its place, which flows as well as a wetted gauze and filters up to 50 times better.
I agree about the "looks" of oil but in everyday applications, it is an indicator.
As far as Ester content, AMSOIL uses the amount of Esters required to give the oil polarity. Use of too much Ester can be harmful to seals and gaskets..
Bob Schultz
If you have sludge it is more then NOX issue here. Too much este’sr will not harm anything. Redline has more then Amsoil and you are fine..
Amsoil SDF filter’s where Not all they were. K&N and Mobil where up to there par and cheaper. Again, been there done that. I have used fram and wix along with Amsoil SDF and those results where not in favor of Amsoil. I am not knocking Amsoil but their dealers, most, have no clue on the product they sign up to sell. What do you want for $30 a year. LOL
If your bike came back with “no corrective action”, 1,000,000 to 1 it was done via UOA and you can have viscosioty move up etc and be fine via them.
My last 3 runs was running a fram oil and K&N air and the wears where close to a Amsoil but at 1/3 the cost..
I like Amsoil but my point is do not be sucked into Amsoil's marketing BS..After 15+ years of it, most dealers do not have a clue.
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Amsoil Dealer Group 07-26-2008, 10:20 AM If you have sludge it is more then NOX issue here. Too much este’sr will not harm anything. Redline has more then Amsoil and you are fine..
You need to do a little more research. An Ester Based oil can cause problems with some seals and gaskets.
Amsoil SDF filter’s where Not all they were. K&N and Mobil where up to there par and cheaper. Again, been there done that. I have used fram and wix along with Amsoil SDF and those results where not in favor of Amsoil. I am not knocking Amsoil but their dealers, most, have no clue on the product they sign up to sell. What do you want for $30 a year. LOL
The SDF filters were approximately 17 Micron @ 87% Capture Efficiency. The K&N is advertised at 20 Micron but has a poor Capture Efficiency. The Mobil, although it does a fair job at about 19 Micron at 76% Capture Efficiency utilizes a stamped steel by-pass spring instead of a coil spring. Now a Fram is in the mid 30-40 Micron Range at 50%. It is one of the poorest quality filters on the market for Micron Ratings, Capture Efficiency and construction utilizing hot glued cardboard end caps that have been know to seperate.
One of my customers works for an Independent Company that tests these filters and has also tested the Donoldson Media that is supplied to AMSOIL for the EA Series filters. The EA Series Filters actually test Better than the 15 Micron AMSOIL Claims.
If your bike came back with “no corrective action”, 1,000,000 to 1 it was done via UOA and you can have viscosioty move up etc and be fine via them.
That is not a true statement at all. I only use ISO Certified Labs and they will tell you to change the oil if the Viscosity is too high. I have a test report sitting here that shows that. So again, you are propogating mis-information.
My last 3 runs was running a fram oil and K&N air and the wears where close to a Amsoil but at 1/3 the cost..
Not sure what lab you are using, but I'll bet money they are not ISO Certified.
I like Amsoil but my point is do not be sucked into Amsoil's marketing BS..After 15+ years of it, most dealers do not have a clue.
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My point is... That is why you were only a Dealer for one year. You attended no training classes or purchased any training materials. You obviously thought you already knew it all. This is my full time job. I have been with AMSOIL Since 1984 and if you see George on here, he has been with AMSOIL Since 1980.
We don't make our living by just buying a Dealership for $30.00, it is our life and our livelyhood. We attend periodic training classes and purchase training materials from AMSOIL and outside sources. We do not just take AMSOIL's word automatically across the board. Our Independent Research, however, has always backed anything AMSOIL Says and in many cases has shown AMSOIL to be an overly conservative company in their product statements.
Bob Schultz
gsxr1100_27 07-28-2008, 05:47 AM My point is... That is why you were only a Dealer for one year. You attended no training classes or purchased any training materials. You obviously thought you already knew it all. This is my full time job. I have been with AMSOIL Since 1984 and if you see George on here, he has been with AMSOIL Since 1980.
We don't make our living by just buying a Dealership for $30.00, it is our life and our livelyhood. We attend periodic training classes and purchase training materials from AMSOIL and outside sources. We do not just take AMSOIL's word automatically across the board. Our Independent Research, however, has always backed anything AMSOIL Says and in many cases has shown AMSOIL to be an overly conservative company in their product statements.
Bob Schultz
I was a dealer a lot longer then 1 year. Most like over, OVER 15
gsxr1100_27 07-28-2008, 05:54 AM SDF Filters outperformed all other filters on the market but have been gone for 3 years now. They have been replaced by the EA Series which is conservatively rated at 15 Micron. No other filter does this.
If an engine running AMSOIL builds up any sludge, it will usually be due to Nitration of the oil which IS a mechanical problem, not an oil problem.
We just did oil analysis on 3 identical bikes, all right at 10,000 miles.. 2 came back "No Corrective Action Required, Continue To Next Regular Service Interval" One came back with elevated Silicon (Dirt) and wear metals. This was my bike... The only real difference between these 3 bikes... I had a piece of junk K&N Filter on it that the Dealer installed. The oil itself was still serviceable but too contaminated for my liking even though the UOA did not come back "Critical"
The K&N is now gone and an AMSOIL Nano Fiber has been put in its place, which flows as well as a wetted gauze and filters up to 50 times better.
I agree about the "looks" of oil but in everyday applications, it is an indicator.
As far as Ester content, AMSOIL uses the amount of Esters required to give the oil polarity. Use of too much Ester can be harmful to seals and gaskets..
Bob Schultz
Sorry Bob- I know what Amsoil PR says and several UOA houses. In fact, my last 3 fram’s UOA came back very close to Amsoil old SDF. SDF came out due to Mobil filter being better. I am running Amsoil Ea0 right now. See if they are worth it. I know all the dealers pimp they are but I will let the oil testing house test me; I do not go by UOA 100% of the time either. In fact, like <50%
If your test come back with “no corrective action…” you are using UOA as a house. They do not give you the best results. For the price they are cheap but you do not get the best info either.
I know all about sludge and I know how Amsoil is. I do not use it (ASL) anymore since it performed crappy. I know they re-formed the oil since they had issue with it. Was not just me either.
I know how Amsoil dealers are and what Amsoil stance is for there dealers on forums too. I am not knocking there product but I have been there and their oils are good but there are some others that are just as good.
You can have high esters in oil and be fine..In fact you cannot see esters in a UOA either.
gsxr1100_27 07-28-2008, 06:02 AM My point is... That is why you were only a Dealer for one year. You attended no training classes or purchased any training materials. You obviously thought you already knew it all. This is my full time job. I have been with AMSOIL Since 1984 and if you see George on here, he has been with AMSOIL Since 1980.
We don't make our living by just buying a Dealership for $30.00, it is our life and our livelyhood. We attend periodic training classes and purchase training materials from AMSOIL and outside sources. We do not just take AMSOIL's word automatically across the board. Our Independent Research, however, has always backed anything AMSOIL Says and in many cases has shown AMSOIL to be an overly conservative company in their product statements.
Bob Schultz
Again, I will take a oil testing house comments over a dealers. I could careless on the construction of fram etc. If they give me constant UOA’s, they are fine by me. I know who makes Amsoil filters and they have for years before making them for Amsoil.
PS, the lab that gave me the Fram results for over 4 UOA’s was YOUR Amsoil’s UOA lab!.So they are not ISO cert now? I talked enough to Ed in TC on the results. And they WHERE the ones that stated time and time again that my vis went up a grade and NOX and OXD were higher then normal and stated “no corrective action….BS”. After that I do not buy what they state..
Again, I took your belvoed ASL added LC20 to it and the UOA come back with 55% lower wears, TBN stable, NOX/OXD lower then normal then using Amsoil ASL alone… Sorry but UOA results win over marketing. I did this for 3 baseline UOA.
gsxr1100_27 07-28-2008, 06:04 AM My point is... That is why you were only a Dealer for one year. You attended no training classes or purchased any training materials. You obviously thought you already knew it all. This is my full time job. I have been with AMSOIL Since 1984 and if you see George on here, he has been with AMSOIL Since 1980.
We don't make our living by just buying a Dealership for $30.00, it is our life and our livelyhood. We attend periodic training classes and purchase training materials from AMSOIL and outside sources. We do not just take AMSOIL's word automatically across the board. Our Independent Research, however, has always backed anything AMSOIL Says and in many cases has shown AMSOIL to be an overly conservative company in their product statements.
Bob Schultz
Again, I will take a oil testing house comments over a dealers. I could careless on the construction of fram etc. If they give me constant UOA’s, they are fine by me. I know who makes Amsoil filters and they have for years before making them for Amsoil.
PS, the lab that gave me the Fram results for over 4 UOA’s was YOUR Amsoil’s UOA lab!.So they are not ISO cert now? I talked enough to Ed in TC on the results. And they WERE the ones that stated time and time again that my vis went up a grade and NOX and OXD were higher then normal and stated “no corrective action….BS”. After that I do not buy what they state..
I am not saying Amsoil is a bad oil. I think it is a good oil. There are other SM rated oil that are just as good. What I do not like it Amsoil BS in market...Example, in there last action news they had a graph on oil increase...They rated Amsoil the lowest but what they did not figure into the cost was the dealership $$$$...I trust there marketing like <25%.
Edit: There price is going up like 7 to 8% next month I was told.
Amsoil Dealer Group 07-28-2008, 08:39 AM I guess our UOA's are different... If the oil is serviceable, it is serviceable..
Major trucking companies and Industrial Plants are among some of the places that utilize UOA's, not just to see the condition of the oil, but as a preventative maintenance tool for early detection of possible problems.
I have customers with diesel Pickups that are running 200,000 and more without changing oil utilizing AMSOIL By-Pass filtration and oil analysis. Also, trucking companies that have been able to extend oil drains to 80,000 miles using AMSOIL and Oil Analysis.
UOA, when used properly is a tool for maintenance and reliability. Used improperly, it can give false results.
Yes, prices are going up Aug 1st and so are everyone elses.
Bob Schultz
gsxr1100_27 07-28-2008, 10:55 AM I guess our UOA's are different... If the oil is serviceable, it is serviceable..
Major trucking companies and Industrial Plants are among some of the places that utilize UOA's, not just to see the condition of the oil, but as a preventative maintenance tool for early detection of possible problems.
I have customers with diesel Pickups that are running 200,000 and more without changing oil utilizing AMSOIL By-Pass filtration and oil analysis. Also, trucking companies that have been able to extend oil drains to 80,000 miles using AMSOIL and Oil Analysis.
UOA, when used properly is a tool for maintenance and reliability. Used improperly, it can give false results.
Yes, prices are going up Aug 1st and so are everyone elses.
Bob Schultz
I understand how UOA work and the basis for them. Finding the condition of oil is a by-product of the main function of the UOA. That has been happening for like 20+ years. I never said I do not understand them. Throw in a by-pass $$$ and make up oil $$$, good luck. I looked at that for my diesels and price was not worth it. I even looked at them for my car and the filters would cost more then a complete oil change for my car. Extended oil changes come at a price and you need to compare it.
Again you seem to be using Amsoil UOA labs and be careful. They are not great. There “No Corrective Action Required, Continue To Next Regular Service Interval” is a typical response. I have had over 1% fuel, oil thick/thin 1 complete grade etc and said I was fine. They are better labs out there and get better data (results). I stated prior on why I dislike Amsoil UOA lab. Clear as day on their UOA results from there lab. You can also show 10 bikes, same model etc and a have all diff numbers. Based on mfg this is normal.
But you state “I agree about the "looks" of oil but in everyday applications, it is an indicator.” So when I throw in Series 3000 oil and 1000 miles it is black, that is a good indicator? Of what? It is meaningless.
Also I know how testing and re-world are not the same. I also know that Amsoil EAo were tested beyond their 25K miles they pimp. For over $11 to $13 a filter I hope it is better since it is 4X the price. It better give me 4X the performance or it is no more. But ask Amsoil how they even came up with the 25K per oil change…Interesting.
Why do all Amosil dealers say K&N are junk? I am running one in my GSXR since day/mile 0…Silicone is <9 ppm on its yearly UOA using Fram. Say I use amsoil filters will be engine longevity increase by the delta, nope. No one can answer that.
You said you do not know the price increase as noted prior. It is noted before by Amsoil on the increase %.
I still use Amsoil but going to try (again) another oil since it seems Amsoil is putting less and less ZDDP in theirs. I used their 20w-50 for years in the white bottle but now switched to there 10w-40. night and day.
My point to this thread was take the marketing as worthless. Test your oil and find a baseline and go with it. Trust marketing less and less since most times it is <50% as good at is pushed. I think it is a very good oil but their dealers make it less appealing.
PS. Do not take it personal. I always take the side of the underdog. :punk :)
squale147 08-04-2008, 11:16 PM I would not go by engine oil color unless you are superman. I good dealer should tell you that. I have see and tested oil for about 20 years and seen black oil test great and clear oil bad. I was a dealer for year and stopped.
Only true way is UOA’s.
Amsoil engine oil is good but it is no cleaner; too low of ester count. Used Amsoil since 1990 (along with other gas/diesel oils) and you think your engine is clean. Throw in Lc20, for example and it will become black since it is cleaning. Heck throw in Lc and watch UOA come back 100% better. Been there done that.
Amsoil filter are good but I know there last SDF tested okay on my bike when compared to others I have used. For the price there SDF where overpriced.
the oil was sent out for a o.a and came back in great shape but i was commiting on how clean is was when drained.. i know that you cant tell how good any oil is just buy color`
Amsoil Dealer Group 08-05-2008, 08:41 AM the oil was sent out for a o.a and came back in great shape but i was commiting on how clean is was when drained.. i know that you cant tell how good any oil is just buy color`
Oil Analysis, when used properly is definitely worth the expense. I use it myself.
Bob Schultz
peerock 08-05-2008, 08:53 AM i have a question Mr. AMSOIL guy, i would love to use amsoil in my bike but i got a couple of friends that have the same bike and they said once they put the amsoil in they couldnt find gears at times and as soon as they drained it out and put in regular conventional oil the problem went away, whats up with that?
Amsoil Dealer Group 08-05-2008, 09:36 AM Normally, it is quite the opposite.
BUT, I do have a personal experience to relate... I had bought a used bike a few years ago and after a couple hundred miles, I switched out to AMSOIL MCF 10W-40 MotorCycle Specific oil.
Shifts were even smoother immediately. I had a group coming up to ride the Mtns here including The Dragon that coming weekend. I got a little worried when within 300 miles, the shifts got pretty crunchy but didn't have time to deal with it. After about 1300 miles of riding the shifts became smoother again and never a problem after that.
What we came up with was that there was probably wax buildup and as the AMSOIL cleaned it out, it was causing the shift problems until it completely dissolved it.
In most cases and quite noticeable on the Suzuki Boulevards, the shifts get quite a bit smoother, Especially the 1-2 shift on the 109, along with fewer false neutrals and easier to find neutrals.
Bob Schultz
peerock 08-05-2008, 09:46 AM thank you
gsxr1100_27 08-05-2008, 10:43 AM Oil Analysis, when used properly is definitely worth the expense. I use it myself.
Bob Schultz
Very true they are priceless. But saying that watch out for Amsoil UOA lab, called OIA. Not knocking them but I have a hard time believing there reports; as noted prior.
gsxr1100_27 08-05-2008, 10:49 AM the oil was sent out for a o.a and came back in great shape but i was commiting on how clean is was when drained.. i know that you cant tell how good any oil is just buy color`
Kind of saying two diff things here. :punk
Whom cares on how clean it looks..If it is clear, you either have a clean engine (1,000,000 it needs to be cleaned), the fluid is not cleaning (not enough adds) or its adds are not holding dirt in fluid.
Heck I just changed Amsoil ASM with EaO filter last night. Oil was black as tar with only 2,500 miles.
Ride on dude...:burnout:cheers
squale147 08-08-2008, 12:03 PM Kind of saying two diff things here. :punk
Whom cares on how clean it looks..If it is clear, you either have a clean engine (1,000,000 it needs to be cleaned), the fluid is not cleaning (not enough adds) or its adds are not holding dirt in fluid.
Heck I just changed Amsoil ASM with EaO filter last night. Oil was black as tar with only 2,500 miles.
Ride on dude...:burnout:cheers
thats nice.... but i think most people like to see that after a few thousand miles that there oil still looks a little goildish tint to it...i also know that doesent tell the whole story of the oil.... but like i said early on i am a mechanic and i have hade lots of engines torn down and all that were drained and came out really black hade sludge deposets all through the engine... and the ones that hade amsoil in them showed no sluge at all and when it was draind erarly the amsoil was still very clean looking... so i think that is saying something... you dont have to like there markiting but it does not mean that amsoil is not a top notch oil... i love amsoil and been using it for about ten years and never once has amsoil let me or any of my guys down...:cheers
mechanic1 08-16-2008, 05:55 PM thats nice.... but i think most people like to see that after a few thousand miles that there oil still looks a little goildish tint to it...i also know that doesent tell the whole story of the oil.... but like i said early on i am a mechanic and i have hade lots of engines torn down and all that were drained and came out really black hade sludge deposets all through the engine... and the ones that hade amsoil in them showed no sluge at all and when it was draind erarly the amsoil was still very clean looking... so i think that is saying something... you dont have to like there markiting but it does not mean that amsoil is not a top notch oil... i love amsoil and been using it for about ten years and never once has amsoil let me or any of my guys down...:cheers
+1000
wally101 08-16-2008, 06:13 PM Does someone have that link to the filters and how they stack up against each other??
i just bought 3 gallons of amsoil ,and the dealer said the filters amsoil make arnt the best..
He's a owner of a auto repair shop..
K1tt3ns19 08-19-2008, 01:45 PM for a 2005 gsxr 750 what oil and oil filter and fluids do you recommend?
V2rider 08-19-2008, 04:07 PM for a 2005 gsxr 750 what oil and oil filter and fluids do you recommend?
Amsoil 10-40 synthetic motorcycle oil, amsoil filter.
Other fluids: Amsoil:biggrin
K1tt3ns19 08-19-2008, 06:47 PM Amsoil 10-40 synthetic motorcycle oil, amsoil filter.
Other fluids: Amsoil:biggrin
Does amsoil make a high temp brake fluid, or radiator fluid?
V2rider 08-19-2008, 09:10 PM Does amsoil make a high temp brake fluid, or radiator fluid?
they have radiator fluid. Not sure on brake fluid
gsxr1100_27 08-20-2008, 03:19 PM thats nice.... but i think most people like to see that after a few thousand miles that there oil still looks a little goildish tint to it...i also know that doesent tell the whole story of the oil.... but like i said early on i am a mechanic and i have hade lots of engines torn down and all that were drained and came out really black hade sludge deposets all through the engine... and the ones that hade amsoil in them showed no sluge at all and when it was draind erarly the amsoil was still very clean looking... so i think that is saying something... you dont have to like there markiting but it does not mean that amsoil is not a top notch oil... i love amsoil and been using it for about ten years and never once has amsoil let me or any of my guys down...:cheers
I have seen Amsoil have high NOX and OXD, which is bad (causes sludge). Are they a good oil, yup and been using it in my gsxr since 1993. My point is that I do not take there marketing as 100% since I have seen times when they are not the best and their action news is BS.
In fact, I can show you Amsoil in my personal auto's and it is jet black. Does not mean it is bad, no. I am no mech, only aerospace engineer and I only go by UOA's to see me what is up.
My point is you can have golden brown and looking new oil and have major fuel in it etc.
My closing point is there 25K is huge marketing (using FF filter alone) and if you want to go mch longer use LC20 and it will reduce wears bigtime. After using it in a Lexus and MB I would never NOT use it. After using there SDF filters (along with there old foam ones), I do not expect much from there new EaO filters
gsxr1100_27 08-20-2008, 03:22 PM they have radiator fluid. Not sure on brake fluid
Yes they have break fluid but over priced. >6 for DOT 3 and over $13 for DOT 4..all are 12 oz..
gsxr1100_27 08-20-2008, 03:25 PM Does someone have that link to the filters and how they stack up against each other??
i just bought 3 gallons of amsoil ,and the dealer said the filters amsoil make arnt the best..
He's a owner of a auto repair shop..
Amsoil EaO are to be the best on the market. Unless he has Donaldon filters (cheaper but make Amsoil's filters), Amsoil EaO are the best hands down (so far)..
Now I take the side on the underdog. In Amsoil older land (SDF), K&N and Mobil would give you the same results.
wally101 08-24-2008, 06:36 PM ^^^
a link would be helpful..
squale147 08-24-2008, 08:13 PM I have seen Amsoil have high NOX and OXD, which is bad (causes sludge). Are they a good oil, yup and been using it in my gsxr since 1993. My point is that I do not take there marketing as 100% since I have seen times when they are not the best and their action news is BS.
In fact, I can show you Amsoil in my personal auto's and it is jet black. Does not mean it is bad, no. I am no mech, only aerospace engineer and I only go by UOA's to see me what is up.
My point is you can have golden brown and looking new oil and have major fuel in it etc.
My closing point is there 25K is huge marketing (using FF filter alone) and if you want to go mch longer use LC20 and it will reduce wears bigtime. After using it in a Lexus and MB I would never NOT use it. After using there SDF filters (along with there old foam ones), I do not expect much from there new EaO filters
:offtopic lets see that 1993 gsxr:cheers
gixxeR 09-04-2008, 12:08 PM where can i get the oil fliter EAOM-109 from?
I went to the website on your very first post but only saw the oil and other fliters.
Oil Doc 09-04-2008, 05:13 PM Does someone have that link to the filters and how they stack up against each other??
i just bought 3 gallons of amsoil ,and the dealer said the filters amsoil make arnt the best..
He's a owner of a auto repair shop..
He is incorrect... The AMSOIL EA Series filters actually test better than the 15 Micron advertised.
There is not another filter on the market that filters better.
Doc
Oil Doc 09-04-2008, 05:14 PM where can i get the oil fliter EAOM-109 from?
I went to the website on your very first post but only saw the oil and other fliters.
You have a PM
Doc
Oil Doc 09-04-2008, 05:33 PM Amsoil EaO are to be the best on the market. Unless he has Donaldon filters (cheaper but make Amsoil's filters), Amsoil EaO are the best hands down (so far)..
Now I take the side on the underdog. In Amsoil older land (SDF), K&N and Mobil would give you the same results.
Just to keep the record straight.....AMSOIL EA Series Automotive and MotorCycle Filters are ASSEMBLED mostly by WIX, not made by them. The internal parts come from several souces. Donaldson does manufacture the Patented Media used in the EA filters but the Donaldson Automotive filters do not use this material by contractual agreement. It is ONLY available to AMSOIL.
The K&N does have a good Micron Rating although not as good as the AMSOIL Filters. The problem I see with the K&N is they utilize compressed cellulose media... Imagine the media like this... Take corrogated cardboard... it is a huge wick for any moisture... now compress it and it basically becomes a brown paper bag.. The bag has a slicker surface and will not hold the contaminants as well allowing them to fall off and back into the system.. just my observation.
The Mobil 1 filter is a good filter but I don't like the use of a stamped steel by-pass spring.. I would opt for the WIX ..
Doc
Oil Doc 09-04-2008, 05:35 PM Yes they have break fluid but over priced. >6 for DOT 3 and over $13 for DOT 4..all are 12 oz..
And the same exact Fluid sold by another company is almost $70.00 for the same 12 oz...
I don't think you can find a brake fluid with the same specs for a better price...
http://bestoil4you.com/files/g2476BRAKE_FL.pdf
Doc
squale147 09-06-2008, 05:40 PM What is the difference between the EOAM-109 and EOAM 109c
the eoam-109c is crome and the eoam-109 is black
gsxr1100_27 09-09-2008, 02:35 PM He is incorrect... The AMSOIL EA Series filters actually test better than the 15 Micron advertised.
There is not another filter on the market that filters better.
Doc
correct, full flow filter only wise
gsxr1100_27 09-09-2008, 02:37 PM And the same exact Fluid sold by another company is almost $70.00 for the same 12 oz...
I don't think you can find a brake fluid with the same specs for a better price...
http://bestoil4you.com/files/g2476BRAKE_FL.pdf
Doc
Problem I see is it is Amsoil dealers pimping it. For racing sure, for everyday use, not needed.
gsxr1100_27 09-09-2008, 02:41 PM Just to keep the record straight.....AMSOIL EA Series Automotive and MotorCycle Filters are ASSEMBLED mostly by WIX, not made by them. The internal parts come from several souces. Donaldson does manufacture the Patented Media used in the EA filters but the Donaldson Automotive filters do not use this material by contractual agreement. It is ONLY available to AMSOIL.
The K&N does have a good Micron Rating although not as good as the AMSOIL Filters. The problem I see with the K&N is they utilize compressed cellulose media... Imagine the media like this... Take corrogated cardboard... it is a huge wick for any moisture... now compress it and it basically becomes a brown paper bag.. The bag has a slicker surface and will not hold the contaminants as well allowing them to fall off and back into the system.. just my observation.
The Mobil 1 filter is a good filter but I don't like the use of a stamped steel by-pass spring.. I would opt for the WIX ..
Doc
Tue but I got by what oil analysis people say (never dealers) and so far, they are right with there suggustions for my auto (AMsoil, K&N or Mobil filters). If wears are within 10% a pass bypass spring does not matter. It matters if your engine is dirty as hell and it blugs (never had that issue yet). Heck, I can use a lesser filter and LC20 in Amsoil and perform better then 2 out of 3 filter above.
Do not get me wrong I think Amsoil is a great oil but not needed in some apps and they do not get the lowest wears in all apps either. Now with brake fluid and PS fluid it going a little nuts. I might by it just to see for $5.20 PC price.
Reason why I dislike it; I used Amsoil from day 1 in cars, diesels etc for years. Then tried Lc20 and wears came back WAY better and this product cleaned better then anything to date. That was the #1 selling point for Lc20 and a "hit" on Amsoil. Amsoil's 25K mile is a crap shoot. Even TS will tell you that and even how they came up with it. Lastly, is there shipping is a joke. I can order a spark plug and its weight is 1 lb but a qts is what?
V2rider 09-09-2008, 08:18 PM Tue but I got by what oil analysis people say (never dealers) and so far, they are right with there suggustions for my auto (AMsoil, K&N or Mobil filters). If wears are within 10% a pass bypass spring does not matter. It matters if your engine is dirty as hell and it blugs (never had that issue yet). Heck, I can use a lesser filter and LC20 in Amsoil and perform better then 2 out of 3 filter above.
Do not get me wrong I think Amsoil is a great oil but not needed in some apps and they do not get the lowest wears in all apps either. Now with brake fluid and PS fluid it going a little nuts. I might by it just to see for $5.20 PC price.
Reason why I dislike it; I used Amsoil from day 1 in cars, diesels etc for years. Then tried Lc20 and wears came back WAY better and this product cleaned better then anything to date. That was the #1 selling point for Lc20 and a "hit" on Amsoil. Amsoil's 25K mile is a crap shoot. Even TS will tell you that and even how they came up with it. Lastly, is there shipping is a joke. I can order a spark plug and its weight is 1 lb but a qts is what?
We have 112,000 miles on our 2004 Trailblazer. Ive changed the oil in it 5 times. We have yet to have a single hiccup from that motor. It uses Amsoil 5w30
gsxr1100_27 09-10-2008, 03:17 PM We have 112,000 miles on our 2004 Trailblazer. Ive changed the oil in it 5 times. We have yet to have a single hiccup from that motor. It uses Amsoil 5w30
Well you either have the following using it to that degree.
1) Major varnish and some sludge starting since you do not have pix and UOA’s. ANY UOA house will not say to push that long on one change with only FF filter.
2) Using a by-pass.
3) Lots of highway miles and lots of luck.
These are my thoughts on it since I have only seem a handful going this long on oil (in almost 20 years) using FF on daily driver; but the outcome is the oil is/was junk long time ago thus wears are higher then should. These 5w-30 is there lower end oil too. In my cars I am lucky to see 13K and it is spent (and that is with way to many UOA's). YMMV
GSXRage 09-13-2008, 11:15 PM What's LC20 and where can I get it? Also, I cant find a dealer for Amsoil. All the websites I go to only advertise it :( Someone find me a dealer cuz I dont have one near by and ordering online is my only option right now.
GSXR-750X 09-13-2008, 11:44 PM Go to www.247lube.com
that will bring up all the Amsoil info you need.
GSXRage 09-15-2008, 01:57 AM Go to www.247lube.com
that will bring up all the Amsoil info you need.
Thanks boss!
El Senor Dave 09-15-2008, 01:59 AM Where can I source a filter here in Hawaii, 96743?? and which filter firs my 02 750?
gsxr1100_27 09-18-2008, 03:41 PM What's LC20 and where can I get it? Also, I cant find a dealer for Amsoil. All the websites I go to only advertise it :( Someone find me a dealer cuz I dont have one near by and ordering online is my only option right now.
Lube Control is here. http://lubecontrol.com/
there are MILLIONS of Amsoil dealers out there, most are clueless. Unless they are give you a deal, go online and get it. Most give you a link and their ZO # is it when you are still paying retail but they get a kickback.
gsxr1100_27 09-18-2008, 03:43 PM Where can I source a filter here in Hawaii, 96743?? and which filter firs my 02 750?
Go to Amsoil and look. It is there for a 750.
cehowardrx7 09-28-2008, 08:44 PM Just for the record, my race partner and I use Amsoil 10-40 in our racebikes. The dam fool changes the oil dam near once a year.:hammer Anyway, both bikes run like a charm.. In 2007, we did an average of 25 races, and about 30 trackdays. I would say the oil was changed twice..No problems whatsoever. We laughed at a couple of our buddies who change oil after each race event..
I just put Amsoil 10-40 in my streetbike. I plan on changing oil about every 6000. Will go in my F150 next too.
Oil Doc 09-29-2008, 08:16 AM Lube Control is here. http://lubecontrol.com/
there are MILLIONS of Amsoil dealers out there, most are clueless. Unless they are give you a deal, go online and get it. Most give you a link and their ZO # is it when you are still paying retail but they get a kickback.
I think you are the one that is clueless... You seem to know bits and pieces about things and then give misinformation along the way.
If someone goes to the corporate site, they pay Full Retail Plus Freight, Plus Tax. Unless you Pay for a Dealership or Preferred Customer Membership. Or, you find a Dealer, such as myself that sells at Dealer Cost.
Everyone is ALWAYS tied to a Dealer, even when they go to the Corp site. There is No Way to buy Direct from AMSOIL. Even OEM accounts go through Dealer.
Now, as far as Hawaii, If you are close to Honolulu, we ship container loads to a location there quite often and your order can be picked up there. Otherwise, the freight would be astronomical.
Doc
gsxr1100_27 10-03-2008, 02:44 PM I think you are the one that is clueless... You seem to know bits and pieces about things and then give misinformation along the way.
If someone goes to the corporate site, they pay Full Retail Plus Freight, Plus Tax. Unless you Pay for a Dealership or Preferred Customer Membership. Or, you find a Dealer, such as myself that sells at Dealer Cost.
Everyone is ALWAYS tied to a Dealer, even when they go to the Corp site. There is No Way to buy Direct from AMSOIL. Even OEM accounts go through Dealer.
Now, as far as Hawaii, If you are close to Honolulu, we ship container loads to a location there quite often and your order can be picked up there. Otherwise, the freight would be astronomical.
Doc
I give bits and pieces etc since I cannot “feed” you all the time. Need to step up to the plate.
If you, a dealer give a link with your ZO, you WILL get a kick back. That is a FACT.
Yes, there is a way to buy without a dealer in the mix. If you do to amsoil.com, there is no upline etc. To commision etc. AGain, been there before..
Why you are complaining I have no idea. Most dealers have no clue and that is one reason why I dislike there dealership signup. Any clown can pay the $30 and be a clown..Then pimp this and that and have no clue.
Again take dino and add LC20..Then take Amsoil (any one) and test it..The results with Lc are amazing.....
Oil Doc 10-03-2008, 03:05 PM I give bits and pieces etc since I cannot “feed” you all the time. Need to step up to the plate.
You give false information
If you, a dealer give a link with your ZO, you WILL get a kick back. That is a FACT.
I (A Dealer) do not link to anything.. You must call me to place an order so as to avoid that, there is no way to order from my web site. I sell at Dealer Cost !
Yes, there is a way to buy without a dealer in the mix. If you do to amsoil.com, there is no upline etc. To commision etc. AGain, been there before..
Again, False Information as you have No Idea what you are talking about.
It is impossible to buy Directly from AMSOIL, you are ALWAYS linked through a Dealer. Going to the corporate site, you will pay Full Retail Pricing unless you PAY to become a Preferred Customer. Why bother doing that when I will sell right at Dealer Cost, No Clubs, No Memberships, No Minimums. Not only that, I will comp a 6 month Preferred Customer Membership ($10.00 Value) with anyone's order if they want it.
Why you are complaining I have no idea. Most dealers have no clue and that is one reason why I dislike there dealership signup. Any clown can pay the $30 and be a clown..Then pimp this and that and have no clue.
Again, you are the clueless one... I care because this is my livelyhood. I have been doing this for 25 years and then you are trying to tell me that I am wrong.
Again take dino and add LC20..Then take Amsoil (any one) and test it..The results with Lc are amazing.....
Lets see the ASTM and SAE test reports.. Some Dyno tests and Oil Analysis to back up the extended drains they claim would be helpful as well.
Doc
gsxr1100_27 10-06-2008, 03:56 PM I have all the reports since I read them daily dyno testing is BS. UOA telling more and I have lots. But why would I post them to benefit anyone but ME and somone called oil_doc? They should know it already with that name..LOL
Again my last oil test using Lc20 blew Amsoil ASL away. I am not using there 0w-20 (have a baseline) and now using it with LC20 in same lexus...So far Amsoil is overrated in some apps..I also have dino UOA's but again, you try it and see.
As severla UOA testing house have said, "LC20 makes Amsoil do what it claims."
mechanic1 10-27-2008, 05:46 PM I have all the reports since I read them daily dyno testing is BS. UOA telling more and I have lots. But why would I post them to benefit anyone but ME and somone called oil_doc? They should know it already with that name..LOL
Again my last oil test using Lc20 blew Amsoil ASL away. I am not using there 0w-20 (have a baseline) and now using it with LC20 in same lexus...So far Amsoil is overrated in some apps..I also have dino UOA's but again, you try it and see.
As severla UOA testing house have said, "LC20 makes Amsoil do what it claims."
so i guess you dont like amsoil
V2rider 10-27-2008, 07:05 PM :lol
And I do like Amsoil
squale147 10-28-2008, 09:37 PM well i love it
gsxr1100_27 11-07-2008, 03:35 PM so i guess you dont like amsoil
No I like the products. I just think most of these dealers are clueless, marketing lacking etc and there products are good in autos but it can be better with another product. I like lower wear levels etc. Using LC makes Amsoil the best I can find. If I did not see the UOA, I would not "buy" the two products.
Imy bike, I love it, just lacking in my autos.
Amsoil Dealer Group 11-08-2008, 06:55 AM No I like the products. I just think most of these dealers are clueless, marketing lacking etc and there products are good in autos but it can be better with another product. I like lower wear levels etc. Using LC makes Amsoil the best I can find. If I did not see the UOA, I would not "buy" the two products.
Imy bike, I love it, just lacking in my autos.
I am not representing the OIL DOC, but we do appreciate your Amsoil business and hope you continue through the years using it. I am in my 28th year using it in everything I own and the only reason I still use it is because it lives up to every claim and I am not an easy person to win over when it comes to lubrication. I have been a licensed mechanic for over 40 years and have been involved with multi-million dollar powerplants as well little lawn mower engines all using synthetic oils. It is true Amsoil dealers come from all walks of life and backgrounds, but many of us are highly trained engineers and are not employees like reps from other oil companies that really have no technical background what so ever. With this said though no matter what the background is of the rep, if the product doesn't live up to the claims it really doesn't matter.
george
gsxr1100_27 11-11-2008, 02:13 PM Hi George, I think Amsoil is a very good product. It does lack in a few areas for auto. I do think there new and improved bike oil is kick a$$. In my lexus it (engine oil) is “spent” after about 17K miles. Far from the 25K. That was years ago on the UOA. I tried to many versions of there ASM and ASL.
95% the reps I have know, even my old upline was dumb as rocks. Told me to go XX miles without knowing anything.
I thank you for you kind words. You do not seem to be like most. I was a dealer back when you go do the lifetime for XXX dollars. I was only one for like 12 years then got out.
Since I have a good baseline it will be neat to see how the EaO filter baseline on the old SDF...
_KneeDragr 02-18-2009, 10:38 AM They need bolts for safety wire like K&N.
squale147 02-18-2009, 05:21 PM yea.. that would be nice
GixxerDragon 03-12-2009, 09:42 AM Any comparison with AGIP oils? That seems to be the recommended among the Euro bikes (Ducati, MV's, Aprillia) or maybe just an Italian thing. But would like to hear any feedback on that oil as I can get it for about $9/liter.
Rockford 05-18-2009, 10:18 AM i have been thinking about switching to ams oil, would you be able to point me in the right direction of some oil and a filter? would 20-50 be a little too extreme for a street / drag bike? by the way i got a 07 1k :cheers
Amsoil Dealer Group 05-18-2009, 07:21 PM i have been thinking about switching to ams oil, would you be able to point me in the right direction of some oil and a filter? would 20-50 be a little too extreme for a street / drag bike? by the way i got a 07 1k :cheers
I can take care of your AMSOIL needs..
Bob
AsphaltPilot74 05-20-2009, 08:52 PM i need some fully synthetic oil for my 750. pm me prices and how to order.
thanks
gixxerjoey 06-16-2009, 10:46 PM I would like to purchase some fork oil #5, send me prices and how to order please.
Amsoil Dealer Group 06-17-2009, 08:01 PM All I get when I try to PM you is "Website encountering problems, please try again later"
Please send an email for your request to AMSOIL@bestoil4you.com
Thanks, Bob
ranchopower 06-17-2009, 08:34 PM air filter for a HY-AH-BU-SA 2008?
Amsoil Dealer Group 06-17-2009, 08:42 PM air filter for a HY-AH-BU-SA 2008?
Sorry, not a popular enough bike for us to make a filter for that Ap.
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ranchopower 06-17-2009, 08:54 PM hey thanks for looking.
any aftermarket companies make a filter box that replaces the OEM and uses aftermarket filters, maybe something in the EAAU line or POD filter? maybe someone else can chime in?
Javier
Amsoil Dealer Group 06-18-2009, 06:28 AM That would work if you can find something like that.
Let me know if you come up with anything.
Bob
I use Amsoil oil but your filters are ridiculously expensive. I'll stick with K&N
Amsoil Dealer Group 03-12-2010, 06:20 PM I use Amsoil oil but your filters are ridiculously expensive. I'll stick with K&N
That is fine... You get what you pay for. If 2 or 3 dollars on a change for the Best Filter you can buy makes a difference, that is up to you. I think $12.50 for a filter like ours is more than reasonable. The one on my bike is $13.05.
I would recommend a Pure One over the K&N, at least you will have a pretty decent filter.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
DBallz 04-07-2010, 12:35 PM True Amsoil fanboy here been using it in a few different cars and now in my 600hp Evo. I use the motor oil(RD30 during race season and ATM during the winter) , tranny fluid(MTG), TC and rear diff fluid only(SRN). This is also my first year using it in my bike but if it keeps everything clean like the car then I have no fear.
Quick question Bob I know in automotive use you can use the ATM and EaO filters for 15K is this the same for motorcycles?
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-07-2010, 03:54 PM True Amsoil fanboy here been using it in a few different cars and now in my 600hp Evo. I use the motor oil(RD30 during race season and ATM during the winter) , tranny fluid(MTG), TC and rear diff fluid only(SRN). This is also my first year using it in my bike but if it keeps everything clean like the car then I have no fear.
Quick question Bob I know in automotive use you can use the ATM and EaO filters for 15K is this the same for motorcycles?
You must not be one of over 1600 EVOm members that I have sold to.
You cannot go that far in an EVO.... The EVO calls for synthetic from the factory. Without using oil analysis, you are not suppose to exceed the longest recommended drain interval, which, on the EVO, is 5000 miles. Especially with the RD-30 and if you own an X as their fuel dilution problem is rediculous. The RD-30 is NOT designed for extended drains. Why change for winter ? They are the same viscosity.
For the bike, up to 2X the OEM recommended interval or 1 year, as long as, the AMSOIL Filter is used. I advise not going more than 150% on the first change due to the oil that is held in the engine that cannot be drained.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
DBallz 04-07-2010, 07:00 PM You must not be one of over 1600 EVOm members that I have sold to.
You cannot go that far in an EVO.... The EVO calls for synthetic from the factory. Without using oil analysis, you are not suppose to exceed the longest recommended drain interval, which, on the EVO, is 5000 miles. Especially with the RD-30 and if you own an X as their fuel dilution problem is rediculous. The RD-30 is NOT designed for extended drains. Why change for winter ? They are the same viscosity.
For the bike, up to 2X the OEM recommended interval or 1 year, as long as, the AMSOIL Filter is used. I advise not going more than 150% on the first change due to the oil that is held in the engine that cannot be drained.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
Actually there is a vendor on EvoM.net that I purchase my oil for the car from. I was using the RD-30 because I took the car with me to Florida on vacation and I set up a run against my brother-in-laws' Nissan GTR and Turbo M3. Long story short my Evo 8 blew both those cars away. I put 5k on that oil and just switched to ATM. The ATM is perfect for me since I'm not racing the car this year....next year going with a new setup should get me 700hp.
But back on topic Amsoil is the Best Lub hands down
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-07-2010, 07:42 PM Actually there is a vendor on EvoM.net that I purchase my oil for the car from. I was using the RD-30 because I took the car with me to Florida on vacation and I set up a run against my brother-in-laws' Nissan GTR and Turbo M3. Long story short my Evo 8 blew both those cars away. I put 5k on that oil and just switched to ATM. The ATM is perfect for me since I'm not racing the car this year....next year going with a new setup should get me 700hp.
But back on topic Amsoil is the Best Lub hands down
Must be talking about Andy.
You may want to check my prices. Do you use the same nick on EVOm ?
The RD-30 is an awesome oil.
The SSO 0W-30 is our Top of the line Street oil and even works great on the Track.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
DBallz 04-08-2010, 02:05 PM Must be talking about Andy.
You may want to check my prices. Do you use the same nick on EVOm ?
The RD-30 is an awesome oil.
The SSO 0W-30 is our Top of the line Street oil and even works great on the Track.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
So if your telling me that you have better prices I'm listing....and yes I'm talking about Andy Pagan and yeah I use the same screen name really on all message forums I go on. Just as a test could you PM me a price for 5qts of ATM shipped to 10522?
I used the SSO series oil when I first got the car tuned back last June and put some extending life on it 10K to be exact and sent the oil to the lab and they gave me the big thumbs up. But like I said I put RD-30 in it and I want to put in the ATM since I'm just going to be DD the car this year
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-08-2010, 08:25 PM PM Sent
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Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
09Gixxer750 04-27-2010, 08:08 PM I bought some oil from you guys before I think the guys name was Bob. Anyway I need more Oil. 10 40 :cheers
I'm a little BITCH! 01-29-2011, 01:51 AM I've used amsoil fluids in my 400 whp 2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8 for the transmission, transfer case, differential fluid, and engine oil. I must have made over 1000 drag launches in this car and NOT one failure with my drivetrain (which is not typical for this type of car). After switching to this fluid I immediately noticed much less metal shavings coming off my magnetic drain plugs (in drivetrain and engine). This made me a believer. Shifting feel in my Evo and my bike has been improved many times over compared to OEM fluids, or competitor products. Is it worth the cost? FUCK YES.
Amsoil Dealer Group 01-29-2011, 07:23 AM I've used amsoil fluids in my 400 whp 2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8 for the transmission, transfer case, differential fluid, and engine oil. I must have made over 1000 drag launches in this car and NOT one failure with my drivetrain (which is not typical for this type of car). After switching to this fluid I immediately noticed much less metal shavings coming off my magnetic drain plugs (in drivetrain and engine). This made me a believer. Shifting feel in my Evo and my bike has been improved many times over compared to OEM fluids, or competitor products. Is it worth the cost? FUCK YES.
You are probably a member of EVOm. I hope you bought your fluids from me but, if not, the time is always good to get the Best Price going. I had about 1600 EVOm Members at one time buying oil, fluids and filtration.
Unfortunately, when the forum was bought, their advertising prices skyrocketed which meant I couldn't give the members the best price. Their attitude was "Raise your prices", they didn't/don't care about their members. It is just a money tree for them.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
TOEJAM 01-29-2011, 12:12 PM Bob, do you carry oil filters for my Triumph Daytona 675?
I need some.
Yes, i know this is a Suzuki forum. :D
Amsoil Dealer Group 01-29-2011, 08:22 PM 2006-up Daytona 675 Triple takes the AMSOIL EAOM-103
Short answer: Yes.. LOL
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Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
TOEJAM 01-30-2011, 03:54 PM Thanks :thumbup
driftns2k 04-04-2011, 03:12 PM Can you PM me a price for AMSOIL EAOM-109 Filter shiopped to 60110.
thanks
chris
CrickiKaze 04-11-2011, 07:25 PM need a filter and oil for my K8 750
Amsoil Dealer Group 04-12-2011, 06:25 AM need a filter and oil for my K8 750
PM Sent
Thanks
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Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
dagenius01 05-03-2011, 02:38 PM bob can you send me price for filter and oil for my 07 gsxr 600 thanks
Amsoil Dealer Group 05-03-2011, 02:55 PM bob can you send me price for filter and oil for my 07 gsxr 600 thanks
Prices PM'd
Thanks !
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
TOEJAM 05-22-2011, 03:17 PM Ok Bob, so what kind of deal do I get if I order some oil and oil filters for my '09 Triumph Daytona 675.........and some oil, oil filters and diesel treatment for my 2011 Chevy 2500HD Duramax...all at the same time? :D
sevnn 05-25-2011, 09:37 PM full synthetic oil price for k8 gsxr 600! shipped to lower 48 states thanks!
Amsoil Dealer Group 05-26-2011, 05:46 AM full synthetic oil price for k8 gsxr 600! shipped to lower 48 states thanks!
PM Sent
Thanks !
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Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
Tongan 06-27-2011, 03:04 AM Yes it is.... Most Suzuki's with a Spin-On take that filter
Bob S.
Even for the 89 1100's??
Amsoil Dealer Group 06-27-2011, 06:02 AM Just double checked as some of the early Suzi's took a different filter but I am showing that a 1989 GSX 1100, takes the 109. I also triple checked on WIX and they say the same.
The Best isn’t cheap
Cheap isn’t The Best
Bob
G-Man 06-30-2011, 05:52 PM What oil filter do you recommend for my 2000 gsxr 750? I do not know the part number for the filter.
Amsoil Dealer Group 06-30-2011, 07:41 PM EAOM-109 is the filter. MCF 10W-40 is the oil . 3.1 qts is the capacity with filter.
Is that your Sub ? Are you a podium finisher ?
The Best isn’t cheap
Cheap isn’t The Best
Bob
motoxman.21 07-01-2011, 12:42 PM What's the price for a 4L of 10W40 and filter for a '01 GSXR 750?
Thanks :thumbup
ChangBang 07-26-2011, 11:06 AM Price for recommended filter and oil for 2008 gsxr600 please
Thanks
Amsoil Dealer Group 07-26-2011, 02:41 PM Price for recommended filter and oil for 2008 gsxr600 please
Thanks
These prices are only available by phone order. They are NOT available on our website!
Below pricing is Dealer Cost. You pay exactly what AMSOIL charges me. Filters are $13.60 ea so you can figure oil price.
Prices are delivered. Only additional charge is your local taxes.
4: Qts MCF 10W-40 Motorcycle Specific
1: EAOM-109 filter
$58.30 plus your local taxes
8: Qts MCF
2: EAOM-109 filters
$108.25 plus tax….. $52.93 per change
12: Qts MCF
3: EAOM-109
$155.19 plus tax…… $50.53 per change
877-356-6099 9-9 Eastern Time
Bob
DemonRR 07-26-2011, 03:32 PM please pm me a price for the following:
6qts of 10-30 full synthetic oil (automobile)
1 ams oil oil filter for a 2001 dodge dakota 4.7ltr
3qts of 10-40 full synthetic motorcycle oil
thanks
Amsoil Dealer Group 07-26-2011, 07:16 PM PM sent
Thanks,
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Cheap isn’t The Best
Bob
DemonRR 07-27-2011, 05:10 AM i needed a price for oil, not trans fluid. come to think about it, add 6 qts of 10-40 full synthetic to my quote please. thanks. got to drop my pan and fix a seal leak anyways.
thanks
housemuzik52 08-14-2011, 03:52 PM How does Amsoil compare to Agip? The two oils I've run recently in my 2011 750..
Amsoil Dealer Group 08-14-2011, 04:40 PM How does Amsoil compare to Agip? The two oils I've run recently in my 2011 750..
Honest answer....
Uncertain... Agip is not a serious enough competitor to spend Thousand$ on testing.
The Best isn’t cheap
Cheap isn’t The Best
Bob
CaliManDan600 12-31-2011, 07:35 PM I just sent you a PM for a price quote for:
3 quarts of 10W-40 Motorcycle full synthetic oil
1 Amsoil oil filter that will fit a 2007 Suzuki GSX-R600
I think the correct oil filter used to be an EAOM-109 but I don't see that model number on your website anymore.
LennythePep 01-05-2012, 05:28 PM Bob,
I sent you a message with my email. I spoke to you on Monday the 2nd and placed an order for oil and a filter. Just wondering if you were able to place that order? If so, I would like to get a receipt emailed to me. If not, please let me know so that I can get it somewhere else.
thanks
I <3 Soysauce! 01-06-2012, 08:44 PM I've been trying to get a hold of him for months and nothing.
Amsoil Dealer Group 01-07-2012, 10:04 AM Did you try the telephone ?
Although the forums are a great place (although expensive) sometimes real life gets in the way. We have all our forms of contact listed for just such cases.
We have been doing shows since mid-September until mid-December and then I went straight to the hospital for some overdue surgery. We run balls to wall doing shows. That is 7 days a week pulling a 31 foot trailer around.
Oil, is the Lifeblood of your engine. The oil filter, is the Kidney that keeps it clean.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
I <3 Soysauce! 01-07-2012, 02:17 PM It's all good. I just need oil before the spring. I'll give you a call shortly.
Amsoil Dealer Group 01-07-2012, 03:15 PM Thanks.
Oil, is the Lifeblood of your engine. The oil filter, is the Kidney that keeps it clean.
The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best
Bob
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