The UK has passed a law that makes black, colored, or tinted visors illegal.

You don't need me to tell you how stupid this law is. The only good reason I can think of for the government is that faces cannot be photographed with all the front facing speed cameras all over the place if the rider has a dark visor on.

Please sign this petition and send to as many riders as possible.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ukvisor/petition.html

Can we make this a sticky?

you should post the link over at www.zx9.org (http://www.zx9.org) lots of brits over there.

Here in cali any window tint in front of the driver is illegal. I had a Dr's excuse that stated I had Photophobia. That is a sondition where your eyes don't dialate right and bright light gives you headaches.

It got me off about half the time.

Those laws blow goats. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/plthumbsdown.gif

LOL 14 signatures?!?! you guys got a long way to go http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Othello said:

The UK has passed a law that makes black, colored, or tinted visors illegal.

You don't need me to tell you how stupid this law is. The only good reason I can think of for the government is that faces cannot be photographed with all the front facing speed cameras all over the place if the rider has a dark visor on.

Please sign this petition and send to as many riders as possible.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ukvisor/petition.html

Can we make this a sticky?




It kinda makes you wonder then why wearing sunglasses in a car isn't illegal.

The foarard facing speed cameras idea is a non starter as bikes dont have front numberplates anyway othello.

I dont use tinted visors but ill sign the petition anyway. Not that it will do fuck all good.

It doesn't help when you have situations where the government sends a team of researchers to a regular bike spot at sunset and counts the number of riders using tinted visors and then finds out how many of those were carrying a clear visor to use once the sun had gone down.

Apparently 40% were planning to ride home in the dark with their tinted visors http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif

Of course, the Government doesn't realise that legislating for the idiots in our society isn't the way to go...

RepulsioN said:


Othello said:

The UK has passed a law that makes black, colored, or tinted visors illegal.

You don't need me to tell you how stupid this law is. The only good reason I can think of for the government is that faces cannot be photographed with all the front facing speed cameras all over the place if the rider has a dark visor on.

Please sign this petition and send to as many riders as possible.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ukvisor/petition.html

Can we make this a sticky?




It kinda makes you wonder then why wearing sunglasses in a car isn't illegal.

The foarard facing speed cameras idea is a non starter as bikes dont have front numberplates anyway othello.

I dont use tinted visors but ill sign the petition anyway. Not that it will do fuck all good.



The forward facing number plate isn't too far off mate... If they don't do the plate they'll probably put a transponder on the bike. Either way, we're heading for front facing recognition and the reaosn, I believe, that they have banned tinted visors is because they want to take a snap of our ugly mugs and could give a toss about safety.

Othello, here in melbourne, Aust, we were very close to front plates (still may get them), a transponder device etc, but they still cant work out a system for front plates due to the wide variety of bike types, ie sticker plate for fairing bikes where it would go on the screen (for that i would ride with no fairing on the street which is still legal, just to spite our government).. so far this has not come through.. we got stung a extra $50 rego fee for safety issues, from mainly riders been in serious accidents, caused by a cars fault. our speed cameras are just as bad as Englands now, ussually on high traffic density roads that are rather safe and never had accidents (there reason for them in the 1st place).. i really hope this government does not get voted in for a 3rd term.. also our road compliance has a %10 + or - for speedo errors so speed cameras where set to that, now at any speed limit there is only a 3km tolerance in anything from a 40km zone to a 110km zone.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

as each year goes by it gets harder and harder

injunwil said:

you should post the link over at www.zx9.org (http://www.zx9.org) lots of brits over there.



I just posted it there.. THANKS!!

AND they made it a sticky http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif

A_Fire_Inside said:

LOL 14 signatures?!?! you guys got a long way to go http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif



25 now!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

That really sucks, I don't wear sunglasses and that sheild is the only protection that I have against the sun. When I get a lid that's the one thing I get right along with it. I would hate if they did that here.

The law has been around for a very long time, and many people have tried to change it.

I understand that you are allowed a 'mild tint' and there are other specific that you can have like a photochromatic one that lightens at night.

I think i got 20+ ticktes for dark visors in the UK in a ten year period, each time it was the same routine.

Its like 'race cans' and small number plates, cool as hell, but not worth the hassle, if they see you have a dark visor, or hear your can, or (fail to) see your small plate, they pull you, and it gives them an opportunity to give you a ticket for all the other things that you have that are wrong.....

If I ride in the UK, I stick to my Oakleys, and do not give anyone a reason to pull me over any more.

Othello said:


injunwil said:

you should post the link over at www.zx9.org (http://www.zx9.org) lots of brits over there.



I just posted it there.. THANKS!!

AND they made it a sticky http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif



pffftt, any fool can do that http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Its been ilegal here for a while now but doesn't mean you can't use sunglasses.

This is brilliant!!!

I checked the petition last week and it had got up to 37 votes... I checked today and it was 750!! Obviously news is getting out about the petition and it's being passed around.

Thanks to those of you who have signed.

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Othello said:

This is brilliant!!!

I checked the petition last week and it had got up to 37 votes... I checked today and it was 750!! Obviously news is getting out about the petition and it's being passed around.

Thanks to those of you who have signed.

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And now, after a few more hours, it's hit 890!

Keep the word spreading.. email the link to all of your biking buds

Othello said:


Othello said:

This is brilliant!!!

I checked the petition last week and it had got up to 37 votes... I checked today and it was 750!! Obviously news is getting out about the petition and it's being passed around.

Thanks to those of you who have signed.

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif



And now, after a few more hours, it's hit 890!

Keep the word spreading.. email the link to all of your biking buds



Almost 1000 more signatures have been added since yesterday!!!! Now up to 1800. I can't believe it... please email the link to your friends and ask that they email it on to their friends.. I'd liek to see this hit 10,000 and then will submit it to my local MP.

Can I wear sun glasses when I want?
Can I decide when I have a haircut?
Are THEY gonna tell me when it is alowed to have sex with my girl?

This is democracy, right?

I signed for you and gave a comment, that's now what.. 2600 signatures total?

It's looking better for you guys I hope.

xtrustkillx said:

I signed for you and gave a comment, that's now what.. 2600 signatures total?

It's looking better for you guys I hope.



Thanks.. over 1000 signatures were added in one day. It is possible to keep this going. Just email the link to every biker you know and encourage them to send it to every biker they now. Also, what really helped, was people posting the link on other boards that they're members of. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Just signed... 2772 sigs. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

The response rate is slowing down... please email this link to all of your biker friends and ask them to do the same.
We got 2000 signatures in 2 days at one point.. it is possible to spread the word.

Thanks

Othello - does it matter if those signing the petition are American, or from other countries besides the UK?

I was going to sign it, but I live in Southern California, USA.... I don't really see how my $.02 is going to help you in Jolly England... If I'm wrong, lemme know - and I'll gladly sign your peitition, as well as pass it along to my other buddies at other bike boards I frequent.

that is one of the stupidest laws i've ever heard of.. that is absolutely ridiculous. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

The law also says:

- Keep to the speedlimits
- No loud exhaust pipes
- You must have mirrors/blinkers on your bike
- No wheelies allowed on public roads

Etc, etc....

But who cares about the law.... that much... these days.... ? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

othello, did you ever send this on and what sort of reply, if any, did you get?

2835 right here!

2880 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

This law sucks ass....... i will always use a tinted visor when it's sunny outside.... I'd rather be safe and riska £30 fine than ride with a clear visor and be dazzled by the sun. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif


I think everyone on this site should sign as the petition doesn;t ask your location!

that'll be 2895

Not sure as we'll get anywhere with this as there is so few signatures.

There is an article in this months BIKE magazine about those leg protectors that they tried to bring out in the late 80's and the petition that got those stopped. It took 188,000 signatures http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

What are the actual reasons for making a dark visor illegal? Why are visor inserts legal then?

its easier to remove an insert than a dark visor cos you need to carry a clear one
you know we cant be trusted not to ride at night with it :-(

I think it is stupid, what if they said to Rossi, urm, I'm sorry, you can't wear that! \They'd get a slap and some abuse!!

I find it quite funny, I ride with a tinted visor in the summer. I'll carry my clear if I'm gonna be out after dark. I'd never dream of riding in the dark with a tinted visor and I dont know anyone that would be stupid enough to either.

It's fine to wear sunglasses, Which isnt as easily removed if the bike is in motion e.g.if your riding along and ride into a dark un-lit tunnel you can just flip up the visor.

I signed it ages ago, I doubt it'll make any differance

I always wear a dark visor during the day and carry a clear one under my seat, and will continue to do so whether its legal or not!! I consider my safety is worth more than a £30 fine!! 75% of coppers never say anything anyway!! Besides how many MP's that pass these stupid ass laws actually ride bikes? they're okay in the back of the chauffer driven Jaguars. W**NKERS !!

i use a dark visor, wouldn't want it any other way, carry my clear one under the seat. i'd say 80% of people who come in our shop all run dark visors, i will mention the petition, try putting it on

www.visordown.com (http://www.visordown.com)

really busy bike forum

3135 Total Signatures more needed http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

are many people in the U.K still wearing tinted visors???

Yes. Many of us are. In ten years of wearing one I've not been stopped by the Police yet. Must have been lucky.

They re-examined the law recently but decided not to change it. Sadly there is no way a petition will change anything even if every biker in the UK signed it.

that sucks hope that law doesnt come in australia.

Apparently there looking in to the legality of the inserts now as well.....A couple of distributors have already been taken to court I think....Never been stopped for my visor mind, just my can , small plate , speeding etc

are they picky on race cans in the U.K? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Is the pope catholic ? They generally pick on everylittle thing No plates, race cans, visors I've even been stopped for having indicators that are too small.
Its a bloody nanny state.

in other states of australia they are looking at cans,but i have not ever been stoped about mine and i know a lot of guys with smaller idicators and licience plates.

they tried doing me for my dark visor 1 year back and failed took it right to the crown court i had a video cam setup on the tank and had it played in court by my breif. the picture was lousy could hardly see it for the sun's glare i told them i valued my life more than any fine and told them i would sooner go to prison than stand by a stupid law . the 12 just men and woman came back with a not guilty . saw the cop outside court he wasnt happy and said wait while next time i told him to go shit on his helmet lol. result eh .

So there are people in this country who know their arse from their elbow.......still, a shame that the old bill made us all (the tax payer) pay to take it that far, if only they'd listen to the public then maybe wed all save a bit of cash. But then they'd all have to do some proper work like catch rapist's muggers and other thieving scum.

i was just so piised off by them stoping me for no reason at all just that i was riding a bike .the best bit of kit i ride with now is a mp3 player with record .if i get stopped now before getting in there car i record it all just like them ive only had one cop who tried to get me to turn it off . ive just had enough of them taking the piss with us bikers when young kids can fly around town in small hatchbacks with blacked out windows exhausts like drainpipes and kids hanging out of the windows all they do is shit there laughing. the cop who took me to court isnt on trafic anymore !well havent seen him http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif .

He's probably been promoted !!!

i thought it was to do with health and safety for them being illegal. you can wear sunglasses as they have UV filters blocking out harmful rays whereas visors have no UV protection at all so when shaded the pupils are dilated more exposing them more to those harmful rays. sunscreen for your eyes basically. how stupid is it?

i thought it was to do with health and safety for them being illegal. you can wear sunglasses as they have UV filters blocking out harmful rays whereas visors have no UV protection at all so when shaded the pupils are dilated more exposing them more to those harmful rays. sunscreen for your eyes basically. how stupid is it?

Eh ? is this for real ??

Its all for our health & safety !

Bollox.

The cheapest pair of sunglasses you can buy are legal. No impact protection. No UV filter, no nothing, but thats ok.

British law tries to imply it fits in with Euro standards. But how come tinted visors are ok off shore.?? Isle Of Man, Ireland and mainland europe are all legal to buy and use tinted visors.

This is a stupid and dangerous law. and its all related to the obsession with cameras as a way of upholding the traffric laws.

:cursing

Eh ? is this for real ??

Its all for our health & safety !

Bollox.

The cheapest pair of sunglasses you can buy are legal. No impact protection. No UV filter, no nothing, but thats ok.

British law tries to imply it fits in with Euro standards. But how come tinted visors are ok off shore.?? Isle Of Man, Ireland and mainland europe are all legal to buy and use tinted visors.

This is a stupid and dangerous law. and its all related to the obsession with cameras as a way of upholding the traffric laws.

:cursing

I know for a fact that they are not legal in Germany either but the cops don't seem to enforce it.

It doesn't help when you have situations where the government sends a team of researchers to a regular bike spot at sunset and counts the number of riders using tinted visors and then finds out how many of those were carrying a clear visor to use once the sun had gone down.

Apparently 40% were planning to ride home in the dark with their tinted visors http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif

Of course, the Government doesn't realise that legislating for the idiots in our society isn't the way to go...


As I've put in my note. I wear glasses and there's no law to say that I can't go out in perscription sunglasses and ride in the dark with them on. At least with a dark visor I can lift it up and ride slowly home but I can at least see where I'm going!!!! It's a stupid law that should be scrapped. Your driving along and you have your sunglasses on, you get to a long tunnle and at first you can see nothing til your eyes adjust but at least with a dark visor you can lift it up!!!!!

I totally agree it doesn't help but these people might have been willing to lift the visor up and to be honest who out there would ride a bike not knowing where the road went to!

Got to ask whats the law on pillions wearing dark visors or is that a stupid question????

Got to ask whats the law on pillions wearing dark visors or is that a stupid question????

Its not a stupid question. it IS a stupid law !. The pillion is subject to the same law. Dark or Iridium visors are illegal. There is now a £60 fine and 3 points cos its a traffic offence :confused :confused how ....?

<officious copper>The defendant was procedin in an orderly manner whilst wearing protection against the bright sun m'lud </officious copper>

:wtf

So I wonder what would happen if I took someone on the back of my bike who is wearing there own helmet with a dark visor but they don't have a driving licence???? Does this mean I get the points?????:scratch :scratch

i didn't think tinted visors were illegal, i got my iridium visor (is this different to tinted), which the man in the bike shop said was legal, he also tried to get me to get an illegal black visor, which i said no to.

you are aloud to were dark visors in day time when it's sunny , if you wear it at night or a real dull day then thats when to get a ticket

you are aloud to were dark visors in day time when it's sunny , if you wear it at night or a real dull day then thats when to get a ticket

the law here has recently changed in the last couple of weeks to allow the above :cool

I just got to the uk... they can mail me as many tickets as they want if its during the day my lid is tinted . . . . . .